Mixed Martial Arts Thread (UFC and others) - Page 34

PilotMan · 05-26-2010, 11:47 PM

Man, Warren is like a freaking cat with nine lives. He has been caught so many times and escaped every single one. Askren too. They are both so similar in terms of their career development. My eye's almost popped at watching Warren squirm in that nasty armbar.

Pitbull v. Warren could be tough for Joe. He is so strong but Pitbull is clearly the best submission artist that he will face so far, and more well rounded then anyone else too.

As for Askren. Hornbuckle has a lot of experience, and his two fights were over fast as he proved that he can fight from his back.

The thing about both of them though is that they leave no space for the other guy to work, and they are both so sickeningly strong, making it tough to get submissions against them.

DeToxRox · 05-27-2010, 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by PilotMan

Man, Warren is like a freaking cat with nine lives. He has been caught so many times and escaped every single one. Askren too. They are both so similar in terms of their career development. My eye's almost popped at watching Warren squirm in that nasty armbar.

Pitbull v. Warren could be tough for Joe. He is so strong but Pitbull is clearly the best submission artist that he will face so far, and more well rounded then anyone else too.

As for Askren. Hornbuckle has a lot of experience, and his two fights were over fast as he proved that he can fight from his back.

The thing about both of them though is that they leave no space for the other guy to work, and they are both so sickeningly strong, making it tough to get submissions against them.

Agreed totally. Warren needs to improve his overall game but like you said he is strong as hell. I am not sure I see him winning this fight, but he is still young and has time to develop. Just is way too one dimensional at times.

Raiders Army · 05-29-2010, 09:13 PM

Bought my first MMA PPV. We'll see what happens tonight.

DeToxRox · 05-29-2010, 10:56 PM

Brillz is having the fight of his life so far.

DeToxRox · 05-29-2010, 11:05 PM

Not sure I agree with the scoring there. Nog gets the split win. Each guy won a round (Brillz 2nd, Nog 3rd) but I thought Brillz had the 1st.

Recoil · 05-29-2010, 11:08 PM

What a god awful decision.

Matthean · 05-29-2010, 11:12 PM

Not watching it, but the ESPN guy said the 2nd round might be the debated one, however, they said it was a very bad decision anyway.

DeToxRox · 05-29-2010, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthean

Not watching it, but the ESPN guy said the 2nd round might be the debated one, however, they said it was a very bad decision anyway.

I hope they didn't say that. Brillz almost choked Nog out in the 2nd. Totally controlled the round. The first was a little more open to interpretation and even that is just being nice to Nog.

Matthean · 05-29-2010, 11:22 PM

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JakeRossen:
It must've been the second round in debate. I try to give judges the benefit of the doubt: strikes TV viewers might find inconsequential could have a bigger impact cageside, but...that was bad. A bad decision. A very bad decision.

Technically he is a Sherdog guy doing the play-by-play for ESPN, but that's the quote.

Matthean · 05-29-2010, 11:23 PM

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JakeRossen:
End of round. All Duffee. Which means the judges have it Russow, 10-9.

Heh.

DeToxRox · 05-29-2010, 11:28 PM

Ha. Joe Rogan is so awesome. "It's always interesting when hype meets reality" as the camera is focused squarely on Duffee.

DeToxRox · 05-29-2010, 11:31 PM

Wow. Russow just knocked Duffee the fuck out!

DeToxRox · 05-29-2010, 11:34 PM

Rogan said that is the greatest come from behind KO he has ever seen in UFC. Russow was not doing shit before that either.

Matthean · 05-29-2010, 11:38 PM

Duffee tried to pace himself in the 2nd and paid for it. Sometimes you just got to put the nail in the coffin and don't worry about saving it.

BYU 14 · 05-30-2010, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRox

Rogan said that is the greatest come from behind KO he has ever seen in UFC. Russow was not doing shit before that either.

That was sick for sure, Russow has a chin he got tagged with some shots before he landed his hail mary.

I am impressed with Hathaway, he is a big welter and at only 22 already looks very polished. A win over Diego Sanchez is a nice feather in the cap.

DeToxRox · 05-30-2010, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by BYU 14

That was sick for sure, Russow has a chin he got tagged with some shots before he landed his hail mary.

I am impressed with Hathaway, he is a big welter and at only 22 already looks very polished. A win over Diego Sanchez is a nice feather in the cap.

Yep, he was constantly pressing Sanchez and Diego couldn't do anything to stop him.

Every main fight up until the main has gone at least three. I've enjoyed the show so far. On paper it is a one match show as far as pushing PPV's but the action has been consistently solid.

DeToxRox · 05-30-2010, 12:49 AM

What an unimpressive main event. Rampage had Rashad rocked and when they got back up literally stood there for a minute letting Rashad collect himself. Rashad looked good with his wrestling but I don't see how he has any chance vs Shogun the way Shoguns been looking.

JS19 · 06-03-2010, 12:46 AM

Not sure if anyone is watching this years Ultimate Fighter, but I'm a not entirely understanding what happened in tonight's episode. Why exactly did Dana White make Tito leave? I understand he needs to see the doctor and all, but why not let him finish the season? The only conclusion I can come to is that he was pissed Tito perhaps didn't tell him he was hurt beforehand, so he decided to give him the boot.

DeToxRox · 06-03-2010, 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by JS19

Not sure if anyone is watching this years Ultimate Fighter, but I'm a not entirely understanding what happened in tonight's episode. Why exactly did Dana White make Tito leave? I understand he needs to see the doctor and all, but why not let him finish the season? The only conclusion I can come to is that he was pissed Tito perhaps didn't tell him he was hurt beforehand, so he decided to give him the boot.

I think that is it. He seemed pissed that Tito ducked out of the fight, and it can't help that this is now the second season in a row where the coaches won't have fought, at least right away.

It did seem odd with what, six days left I believe one of the fighters said, to kick him out but I guess it allows that last two hour episode to plug the new fight.

PilotMan · 06-13-2010, 12:33 AM

Ouch!

TLK · 06-13-2010, 12:43 AM

Nice win for Richie. Such a class act, happy to see him win.

PilotMan · 06-13-2010, 11:07 AM

What? No, Franklin is the devil for landing 2 punches after Chuck was clearly out?

korme · 06-13-2010, 11:39 AM

UFC needs to sign Fedor.

DeToxRox · 06-13-2010, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by korme

Fedor needs to grow a pair and realize how terrible M1 is.

FIFY

And it won't happen. He'll kill Werdum, and hopefully fight Ubereem. I sense though that might be his last MMA hurrah.

BYU 14 · 06-13-2010, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by PilotMan

What? No, Franklin is the devil for landing 2 punches after Chuck was clearly out?

Pretty sure what made Hendo the Devil was his attitude afterwards (If that is what you were referencing)

PilotMan · 06-13-2010, 04:13 PM

Double standard. The point is, it happens all the time, and the Hendo situation was blown way out of proportion. It was just that everyone liked seeing Bisping get that extra shot, out or not.

thesloppy · 06-13-2010, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by PilotMan

Double standard. The point is, it happens all the time, and the Hendo situation was blown way out of proportion. It was just that everyone liked seeing Bisping get that extra shot, out or not.

I think the biggest thing that fed into that outrage is that a ton of people with very little MMA viewing experience watched that fight. Check out these numbers:

UFC Pay-Per View Buys for 2009 - Watch Kalib Run

UFC 100 had like 1.6 million buyers, 3-4 times more than the usual buy rate, and 50% more than the nearest comparable event (UFC 66 with 1.05 million). A lot of those folks were likely the most casual of fans, and got swept up in the pre-hype and the trash talking afterwards.

BYU 14 · 06-13-2010, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by PilotMan

Double standard. The point is, it happens all the time, and the Hendo situation was blown way out of proportion. It was just that everyone liked seeing Bisping get that extra shot, out or not.

No double standard with people that understand the sport, it is reaction. I don't like to see anyone taking shots when they are out cold regardless of how they act before a fight. I dislike a few fighters but would never wish that on them since they are at greater risk for serious injury. Again it is part of the sport and the fighters accept those risks, just don't get the mentality of people being "happy" it happened to Bisping.

Flasch186 · 06-13-2010, 10:27 PM

Hendo acted and delivered a totally different envelope than Franklin did IMO. From pre-fight, punches thrown and after.

PilotMan · 06-13-2010, 11:00 PM

He did, but the in-fight actions were similar. Simply put the fight goes until it's stopped. Speaking of that, the Cro-Cop/Barry fight was wierd. Barry was very dangerous in the first round, but just didn't have the heart to force the issue. I guess he just let it go. He has heavy hands, but unless he gets some kind of ground game, he will never be a contender in the UFC.

AlexB · 06-14-2010, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by PilotMan

He did, but the in-fight actions were similar. Simply put the fight goes until it's stopped. Speaking of that, the Cro-Cop/Barry fight was wierd. Barry was very dangerous in the first round, but just didn't have the heart to force the issue. I guess he just let it go. He has heavy hands, but unless he gets some kind of ground game, he will never be a contender in the UFC.

To be fair he broke his hand and his foot in the first round! But I agree about the ground game - you don't often see a choke without any body control whatsoever.

AlexB · 06-15-2010, 01:40 PM

22 hour dola...

Video of Rich Franklin's glove coming off, after the adrenalin has worn off... Ouch.

MiddleEasy.com | Watch Rich Franklin scream in pain as he gets his glove removed

DeToxRox · 06-23-2010, 01:14 AM

Wandy is out of 116, but have no fear, as fresh off a 12 day layoff, Chris Leben will face Sexyama. Good thing Brocks headlining.

PilotMan · 06-26-2010, 11:08 PM

Frank Shamrock officially retires, but I have to think, that he isn't getting the praise he really deserves by being associated with Strikeforce. He is still annoying as shit.

That female ref for the Cyborg fight was just plain terrible. I was genuinely fearful for the challenger's safety.

Fedor coming up after Smith/Le.

DaddyTorgo · 06-26-2010, 11:34 PM

Fedor time

DaddyTorgo · 06-26-2010, 11:39 PM

Really? The lady is reffing this? Fedor might kill Werdum.

Or is she just giving instructions at cageside?

DaddyTorgo · 06-26-2010, 11:45 PM

WOW.

WOW.

Fedor just got CAUGHT. Bad move by him to take it down onto the mat.

PilotMan · 06-26-2010, 11:50 PM

Well at least I can still get some good sleep.

It certainly opens up a lot of questions.

BYU 14 · 06-26-2010, 11:51 PM

Holy shit! Amazing sub by Werdum. I can't remember seeing Fedor so reckless against a BJJ guy before, he put himself in a bad position.

Also Cris Cyborg is one bad momma..

PilotMan · 06-26-2010, 11:51 PM

He just looked really sloppy. Which surprises me for a guy who supposedly had the plan to stop it. It's not like BJJ is a new fighting style.

BYU 14 · 06-26-2010, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by PilotMan

He just looked really sloppy. Which surprises me for a guy who supposedly had the plan to stop it. It's not like BJJ is a new fighting style.

Agreed, can't imagine why he would dive into Werdums guard like that and not try and work to side control.

SirFozzie · 06-26-2010, 11:53 PM

that sound you hear... is dana white laughing his ass off

DaddyTorgo · 06-26-2010, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BYU 14

Agreed, can't imagine why he would dive into Werdums guard like that and not try and work to side control.

Yeah...I was like "WTF" when he went to the ground with Werdum. It made no sense to me.

DeToxRox · 06-27-2010, 12:06 AM

Dana's tweet is a smiley face. Love it.

DaddyTorgo · 06-27-2010, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRox

Dana's tweet is a smiley face. Love it.

Dana's an obnoxious asshole. And I don't base that on this - I base that on his entire public persona that he's cultivated.

DeToxRox · 06-27-2010, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

Dana's an obnoxious asshole. And I don't base that on this - I base that on his entire public persona that he's cultivated.

I have no qualms with how Dana does things. He couldn't have been more to get Fedor in UFC and he said what everyone else felt about M1 running Fedor's career.

He's an ass but without him MAM would still be in the dark ages.

k0ruptr · 06-27-2010, 12:28 AM

I love Dana White - no homo.

I'm glad Fedor lost, I been hoping and waiting for this a while now.

I never really thought he was pfp best fighter in the world. hes a top 10 guy no doubt but knowing Fedor, he lost now he will be hungry as shit, hopefully destroy Werdum in the rematch and then sign with the UFC.

DaddyTorgo · 06-27-2010, 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by HiFiRevival

And you're a whiny piss ant. I don't base that on this - I base it on every post of yours I've ever read.

I'm assuming you're kidding. If not I'll have some choice fucking words for you.

Flasch186 · 06-27-2010, 11:11 AM

two men entah!

05-26-2010, 11:47 PM	#1651
PilotMan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seven miles up	Man, Warren is like a freaking cat with nine lives. He has been caught so many times and escaped every single one. Askren too. They are both so similar in terms of their career development. My eye's almost popped at watching Warren squirm in that nasty armbar. Pitbull v. Warren could be tough for Joe. He is so strong but Pitbull is clearly the best submission artist that he will face so far, and more well rounded then anyone else too. As for Askren. Hornbuckle has a lot of experience, and his two fights were over fast as he proved that he can fight from his back. The thing about both of them though is that they leave no space for the other guy to work, and they are both so sickeningly strong, making it tough to get submissions against them. __________________ He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops. Like Steam? Join the FOFC Steam group here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/FOFConSteam

05-29-2010, 11:12 PM	#1657
Matthean Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Aug 2008	Not watching it, but the ESPN guy said the 2nd round might be the debated one, however, they said it was a very bad decision anyway. __________________ Board games: Bringing people back to the original social network, the table. Last edited by Matthean : 05-29-2010 at 11:14 PM.

05-29-2010, 11:38 PM	#1664
Matthean Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Aug 2008	Duffee tried to pace himself in the 2nd and paid for it. Sometimes you just got to put the nail in the coffin and don't worry about saving it. __________________ Board games: Bringing people back to the original social network, the table.

06-13-2010, 12:33 AM	#1670
PilotMan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seven miles up	Ouch! __________________ He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops. Like Steam? Join the FOFC Steam group here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/FOFConSteam

06-13-2010, 11:07 AM	#1672
PilotMan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seven miles up	What? No, Franklin is the devil for landing 2 punches after Chuck was clearly out? __________________ He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops. Like Steam? Join the FOFC Steam group here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/FOFConSteam

05-29-2010, 09:13 PM	#1653
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	Bought my first MMA PPV. We'll see what happens tonight.

05-29-2010, 10:56 PM	#1654
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Brillz is having the fight of his life so far.

05-29-2010, 11:05 PM	#1655
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Not sure I agree with the scoring there. Nog gets the split win. Each guy won a round (Brillz 2nd, Nog 3rd) but I thought Brillz had the 1st.

05-29-2010, 11:08 PM	#1656
Recoil High School Varsity Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: GA	What a god awful decision.

05-29-2010, 11:28 PM	#1661
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Ha. Joe Rogan is so awesome. "It's always interesting when hype meets reality" as the camera is focused squarely on Duffee.

05-29-2010, 11:31 PM	#1662
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Wow. Russow just knocked Duffee the fuck out!

05-29-2010, 11:34 PM	#1663
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Rogan said that is the greatest come from behind KO he has ever seen in UFC. Russow was not doing shit before that either.

05-30-2010, 12:49 AM	#1667
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	What an unimpressive main event. Rampage had Rashad rocked and when they got back up literally stood there for a minute letting Rashad collect himself. Rashad looked good with his wrestling but I don't see how he has any chance vs Shogun the way Shoguns been looking.

06-03-2010, 12:46 AM	#1668
JS19 College Prospect Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: NY	Not sure if anyone is watching this years Ultimate Fighter, but I'm a not entirely understanding what happened in tonight's episode. Why exactly did Dana White make Tito leave? I understand he needs to see the doctor and all, but why not let him finish the season? The only conclusion I can come to is that he was pissed Tito perhaps didn't tell him he was hurt beforehand, so he decided to give him the boot.

06-13-2010, 12:43 AM	#1671
TLK Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Allen Park, MI	Nice win for Richie. Such a class act, happy to see him win.

06-13-2010, 11:39 AM	#1673
korme Go Reds Join Date: May 2001 Location: Bloodbuzz Ohio	UFC needs to sign Fedor.

06-13-2010, 04:13 PM	#1676
PilotMan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seven miles up	Double standard. The point is, it happens all the time, and the Hendo situation was blown way out of proportion. It was just that everyone liked seeing Bisping get that extra shot, out or not. __________________ He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops. Like Steam? Join the FOFC Steam group here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/FOFConSteam

06-13-2010, 10:27 PM	#1679
Flasch186 Coordinator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Jacksonville, FL	Hendo acted and delivered a totally different envelope than Franklin did IMO. From pre-fight, punches thrown and after. __________________ Jacksonville-florida-homes-for-sale Putting a New Spin on Real Estate! ----------------------------------------------------------- Commissioner of the USFL USFL

06-13-2010, 11:00 PM	#1680
PilotMan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seven miles up	He did, but the in-fight actions were similar. Simply put the fight goes until it's stopped. Speaking of that, the Cro-Cop/Barry fight was wierd. Barry was very dangerous in the first round, but just didn't have the heart to force the issue. I guess he just let it go. He has heavy hands, but unless he gets some kind of ground game, he will never be a contender in the UFC. __________________ He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops. Like Steam? Join the FOFC Steam group here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/FOFConSteam

06-15-2010, 01:40 PM	#1682
AlexB Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Newbury, England	22 hour dola... Video of Rich Franklin's glove coming off, after the adrenalin has worn off... Ouch. MiddleEasy.com \| Watch Rich Franklin scream in pain as he gets his glove removed __________________ 'A song is a beautiful lie', Idlewild, Self Healer. When you're smiling, the whole world smiles with you. Sports!

06-23-2010, 01:14 AM	#1683
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Wandy is out of 116, but have no fear, as fresh off a 12 day layoff, Chris Leben will face Sexyama. Good thing Brocks headlining.

06-26-2010, 11:08 PM	#1684
PilotMan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seven miles up	Frank Shamrock officially retires, but I have to think, that he isn't getting the praise he really deserves by being associated with Strikeforce. He is still annoying as shit. That female ref for the Cyborg fight was just plain terrible. I was genuinely fearful for the challenger's safety. Fedor coming up after Smith/Le. __________________ He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops. Like Steam? Join the FOFC Steam group here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/FOFConSteam Last edited by PilotMan : 06-26-2010 at 11:11 PM.

06-26-2010, 11:34 PM	#1685
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	Fedor time __________________ Get bent whoever hacked my pw and changed my signature.

06-26-2010, 11:39 PM	#1686
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	Really? The lady is reffing this? Fedor might kill Werdum. Or is she just giving instructions at cageside? Last edited by DaddyTorgo : 06-26-2010 at 11:39 PM.

06-26-2010, 11:45 PM	#1687
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	WOW. WOW. Fedor just got CAUGHT. Bad move by him to take it down onto the mat. __________________ Get bent whoever hacked my pw and changed my signature. Last edited by DaddyTorgo : 06-26-2010 at 11:46 PM.

06-26-2010, 11:50 PM	#1688
PilotMan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seven miles up	Well at least I can still get some good sleep. It certainly opens up a lot of questions. __________________ He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops. Like Steam? Join the FOFC Steam group here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/FOFConSteam

06-26-2010, 11:51 PM	#1689
BYU 14 Coordinator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The scorched Desert	Holy shit! Amazing sub by Werdum. I can't remember seeing Fedor so reckless against a BJJ guy before, he put himself in a bad position. Also Cris Cyborg is one bad momma..

06-26-2010, 11:51 PM	#1690
PilotMan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seven miles up	He just looked really sloppy. Which surprises me for a guy who supposedly had the plan to stop it. It's not like BJJ is a new fighting style. __________________ He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops. Like Steam? Join the FOFC Steam group here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/FOFConSteam

06-26-2010, 11:53 PM	#1692
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	that sound you hear... is dana white laughing his ass off __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

06-27-2010, 12:06 AM	#1694
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Dana's tweet is a smiley face. Love it.

06-27-2010, 12:28 AM	#1697
k0ruptr Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Las Vegas	I love Dana White - no homo. I'm glad Fedor lost, I been hoping and waiting for this a while now. I never really thought he was pfp best fighter in the world. hes a top 10 guy no doubt but knowing Fedor, he lost now he will be hungry as shit, hopefully destroy Werdum in the rematch and then sign with the UFC. __________________ Xbox Live Gamertag: k0ruptr My Favorite Teams : Chicago White Sox - Carolina Panthers - Orlando Magic - Phoenix Suns - Anaheim Ducks - Hawaii Warriors - Oregon Ducks

06-27-2010, 11:11 AM	#1700
Flasch186 Coordinator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Jacksonville, FL	two men entah! __________________ Jacksonville-florida-homes-for-sale Putting a New Spin on Real Estate! ----------------------------------------------------------- Commissioner of the USFL USFL

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