Werewolf: Hunt for Necromancers - GAME OVER! Post #3469

[Alan T]

Fair enough. I guess I read into it as Blade being blade and how he liked to provoke people to make them talk. I guess I saw it as him doing that with bullet. I voted bullet yesterday though so dont mind voting him today. I just think now that Lathum's reveal does not feel very strong any more.


Unvote Lathum
Vote Bulletsponge

[Schmidty]

Well, that sucks, but at least it cleared up some things for me without forcing me to read 10 pages.

Vote bulletsponge

[Lathum]

Now the question I have is if Blade belives in his whole scanning only "vets" the first few days how could he be sure of bullet?

That being said I think the whole statement about scanning "vets" was to throw people off. Since I know I was scanned day one I guess it could be possible blade knew something by the third night.I hate to bandwagon but it seems like a pretty obvious choice.

UNVOTE CHUBBY
VOTE BULLET

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by Alan T

Er wait, where did Blade say he was sure of bullet? I'll change my vote to him I didnt realize blade said he was sure of him though. (ie: I never saw anything that looked like a scan. moreso just him not liking bullet's play)

I gotta agree with that. Why would Blade scan someone as quiet as bullet?

[Barkeep49]

Hope this wasn't posted in the iterim
Here's where he votes for bullet in 1467

Originally Posted by Blade

I think im fairly confident we have good odds with him as i put the pieces together in my head. He just seems to fit into all the pieces i have for what i think a necro would be doing(the cronin vote, who they would scan, comments made, etc.) I think this will be my vote, barring some info later that i dont see now. I think, for the first time this game, im confident with my vote.

After that in post 1495

Originally Posted by Blade

Dola, the more i think about it the more i like bullet as a bad guy.

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by Lathum

Now the question I have is if Blade belives in his whole scanning only "vets" the first few days how could he be sure of bullet?

That being said I think the whole statement about scanning "vets" was to throw people off. Since I know I was scanned day one I guess it could be possible blade knew something by the third night.I hate to bandwagon but it seems like a pretty obvious choice.

UNVOTE CHUBBY
VOTE BULLET

This actually makes a lot of sense, and really confirms the theory that I put out last time of scans: Lathum, Bek, bullet. Blade probably questioned all those choices in order to make him look like the seer. Notice that he never voted for Lathum.

VOTE BULLETSPONGE

Now...let's talk about saldana...

[Barkeep49]

It's the line "I think, for the first time this game, im confident with my vote." that I feel that Blade did a seer and it was the first time he hit.

[Abe Sargent]

Originally Posted by SnDvls

what are the chances they even knew bek was bad? You think us assuming path is good is a reach this is even further out there.

I think bullet is being thrown under the bus for his vote on path yesterday.

I agree, it seems hinky to me.

I'm leaning towards Chubby or Blade. Explainations to follow.

-Anxiety

[Lathum]

Alan, I agree my information from night one is a bit flimsy but at the time we had nothing to discuss. If I was a necro does it seem likely I would have made that information public.

Also, if bullet was scanend last night do you think he would have mentioned anything if he is a necro. I think tonight lynch will shed alot of light on where we are.

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

I gotta agree with that. Why would Blade scan someone as quiet as bullet?

Several people have said that something has seemed off about Bullet's posts. I can't remember if Blade was one of them but either way he might have agreed with the analysis even if he didn't say so.

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by Anxiety

I agree, it seems hinky to me.

I'm leaning towards Chubby or Blade. Explainations to follow.

-Anxiety

Ahh. Won't Anxiety feel silly when he catches up

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Hope this wasn't posted in the iterim
Here's where he votes for bullet in 1467

After that in post 1495

Good stuff. I was never really down with Blade's reasoning (or lack thereof) for being so sure about bullet, but I knew he didn't need much, since people were on him from yesterday.

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by Lathum

Alan, I agree my information from night one is a bit flimsy but at the time we had nothing to discuss. If I was a necro does it seem likely I would have made that information public.

Also, if bullet was scanend last night do you think he would have mentioned anything if he is a necro. I think tonight lynch will shed alot of light on where we are.

If I'm scanned and I'm a necro? I come boasting of it loud and clear. Muddy the water. Try and make the seer reveal.

If bullet was the one responsible for this killing of Blade I think he goofed because I think somebody other than Bullet would easily have been on the block today.

[Abe Sargent]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

Well 5 guys could have scanned, so any of the 5 hit on bek or bek on them and that would be enough. Im making a leap in my head just like you guys are with path. But why is it so hard to believe they knew bek was bad?

Untrue. Only the head necro could pikc up Bek, since only the Head can silence. and the others can't tell the Head if they found Bek until they are found.


-Anxiety

[Abe Sargent]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

Thats my problem...while you might have made an enticing target(obviously not enough of one, as they attacked path, i think there are more enticing targets out there the bodyguard should have been protecting. Be it Path himself, or the EG himself, or the mystic. No offense, but the soothsayer is not as powerful as those 3 roles in my mind, so i think the bodyguard should have been elsewhere. Thats not a knock on you and what you might do with your other scan, im just not sure path truly is handicapping our EG with the groups best interests really in mind.

Untrue. As asked by myself earlier, the EG is automatically protected without needd to guard himself. That leaves just a Mystic out there with a role better than the soothsayer. Meanwhile, the Soothsayer gives a GUARANTEED positive or negative read on someone that will be immedately posted, wheras the Mystic is keeping everyhting close to the vest until the last possible minute. Therefore, the soothsayer is of immediate improtance. With just one other role more important, why not protect him?

Sounds like you may be wanting path to move off Dubb so you can kill him yourself.

-Anxiety

[SnDvls]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

If I'm scanned and I'm a necro? I come boasting of it loud and clear. Muddy the water. Try and make the seer reveal.

If bullet was the one responsible for this killing of Blade I think he goofed because I think somebody other than Bullet would easily have been on the block today.

agreed

[SnDvls]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Ahh. Won't Anxiety feel silly when he catches up

it's even funnier the more he posts.

[bulletsponge]

The day has proceeded briskly, with Blade6119 holding court and other spiritedly debating him on all conceivable topics. At noon the sky turns completely black. Thunder rings through the air at an impossible frequency; the collective group shudders at the raw display of nature.

It is difficult at first to here the screams of Blade6119 above the thunderclaps. But screaming he is, as he rips aside his shirt to reveal an enormous, moving, lump in his stomach. With a terrible ripping sound, the one-eyed, four-foot beetle emerges from within the stomach of Blade6119 and begins to feast on the dying mans remains. How is Blade6119 not yet dead? Only the gods know, and it is clear that this man is not among the favored. The scene drags on for an improbably long time, as the Egyptians are fearful of this magical creature. Finally, Tyrith crushes the bug with a large rock. Blade6119 is still alive, but missing an eye, an ear, and maybe another 50% of his face. His stomach wounds are terminal and there is nothing anyone can do to keep him from bleeding out onto the desert.

Blade6119 turns to the crowd to speak his last words, but that isn't happening either as a swarm of locusts emerge from his throat.

Day 4 continues

well that sounded very painfull, make me glad im only getting hanged

im pretty much screwed now, can someone get a quick vote count?

[Passacaglia]

Man, I wish people would just read everything before filling this thread with more posts.

Anyway, stupid question here, but how did Blade die? Re-reading the rules, I can't see any reason why someone would die during the day.

[Tyrith]

Question for whenever hoops comes back, not that it will matter when it comes lynch time -- is blade's vote for today still good or not?

I think the lathum thing might have been blade covering his tracks somewhat, although it would have been odd when he came out later.

Doooogpiiiillleeee.

VOTE BULLETSPONGE

[Lathum]

I doubt bullet had anything to do with Blades killing.

I think it was one of 2 things.

1. Someone who has been quiet and based on the tension today pick now to unleash whatever this power is, thus creating chaos.

2. Blade was diseased.

I think option 1 is more likely considering all the arguing so far today.

[bulletsponge]

my guess, he was poisoned

[hoopsguy]

No. Only those alive have their votes counted. So Blade's vote today will not count in the final total.

[bulletsponge]

erm or diseased, whichever is in the game

[Abe Sargent]

Originally Posted by Tyrith

There is also a degree of reverse psychology involved. I think it would have been rather unlikely that dubb would have been attacked last night because of the risk of the bodyguard, so the bad guys will hunt elsewhere, so the bodyguard so should elsewhere. The problem is, where does the EG go when you have to choose between about 15 nearly equally valid choices? But bodyguard games are something that are highly underrated in WW; hoops did an incredibly good job last game with that and lathum caught me once the game before. To a large degree we're better off shutting up about it now so they bad guys can't get anymore clues.

Agreed, so why is Blade still talking about it? Isn't he a good enough player to know to shut up about stuff like this?


-Anxiety

[Blade6119]

....thanks to who im pretty sure did that...ill make sure to make up for it in coming games

Best of luck egyptians

[Tyrith]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Man, I wish people would just read everything before filling this thread with more posts.

Anyway, stupid question here, but how did Blade die? Re-reading the rules, I can't see any reason why someone would die during the day.

I think that's why dubb mentioned the Prophecy. I wouldn't completely rule out this being a weird disease kill, but the timing seems weird for that, so I'm inclined to follow dubb for now.

Quick vote count: bullet 10 (11 with blade), everyone else 0, no votes - anxiety, bullet, chubby, king, path, saldana, tangle, vince.

[Passacaglia]

I don't get why disease would entail his death in the middle of the day, though.

[dubb93]

Originally Posted by SnDvls

it's even funnier the more he posts.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by Anxiety

Agreed, so why is Blade still talking about it? Isn't he a good enough player to know to shut up about stuff like this?


-Anxiety

Anxiety, you just made my day with this row of posts after im dead. Thank you amigo.

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by Tyrith

I think that's why dubb mentioned the Prophecy. I wouldn't completely rule out this being a weird disease kill, but the timing seems weird for that, so I'm inclined to follow dubb for now.

Quick vote count: bullet 10 (11 with blade), everyone else 0, no votes - anxiety, bullet, chubby, king, path, saldana, tangle, vince.

ooh, the Prophecy -- the coming of that one has been foretold!! i.e. let's fuck shit up!

[bulletsponge]

dead men dont talk.

[Tyrith]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

I don't get why disease would entail his death in the middle of the day, though.

Shit, especially since it has to be a night action...yeah, I would lean towards some weird power we don't know about.

[Abe Sargent]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

The day has proceeded briskly, with Blade6119 holding court and other spiritedly debating him on all conceivable topics. At noon the sky turns completely black. Thunder rings through the air at an impossible frequency; the collective group shudders at the raw display of nature.

It is difficult at first to here the screams of Blade6119 above the thunderclaps. But screaming he is, as he rips aside his shirt to reveal an enormous, moving, lump in his stomach. With a terrible ripping sound, the one-eyed, four-foot beetle emerges from within the stomach of Blade6119 and begins to feast on the dying mans remains. How is Blade6119 not yet dead? Only the gods know, and it is clear that this man is not among the favored. The scene drags on for an improbably long time, as the Egyptians are fearful of this magical creature. Finally, Tyrith crushes the bug with a large rock. Blade6119 is still alive, but missing an eye, an ear, and maybe another 50% of his face. His stomach wounds are terminal and there is nothing anyone can do to keep him from bleeding out onto the desert.

Blade6119 turns to the crowd to speak his last words, but that isn't happening either as a swarm of locusts emerge from his throat.

Day 4 continues.

I was building a case against Blade as I moved through the new posts, and then this happened.


SHIT!



-Anxiety

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

I don't get why disease would entail his death in the middle of the day, though.

I don't see any reason why it wouldn't? Not all sick people die a night?

I'm off to work now untill after the lynch.

[Abe Sargent]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

The day has proceeded briskly, with Blade6119 holding court and other spiritedly debating him on all conceivable topics. At noon the sky turns completely black. Thunder rings through the air at an impossible frequency; the collective group shudders at the raw display of nature.

It is difficult at first to here the screams of Blade6119 above the thunderclaps. But screaming he is, as he rips aside his shirt to reveal an enormous, moving, lump in his stomach. With a terrible ripping sound, the one-eyed, four-foot beetle emerges from within the stomach of Blade6119 and begins to feast on the dying mans remains. How is Blade6119 not yet dead? Only the gods know, and it is clear that this man is not among the favored. The scene drags on for an improbably long time, as the Egyptians are fearful of this magical creature. Finally, Tyrith crushes the bug with a large rock. Blade6119 is still alive, but missing an eye, an ear, and maybe another 50% of his face. His stomach wounds are terminal and there is nothing anyone can do to keep him from bleeding out onto the desert.

Blade6119 turns to the crowd to speak his last words, but that isn't happening either as a swarm of locusts emerge from his throat.

Day 4 continues.

I was building a case against Blade as I moved through the new posts, and then this happened.


SHIT! SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT!



-Anxiety

[Abe Sargent]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

Anxiety, you just made my day with this row of posts after im dead. Thank you amigo.

No prob buddy.


-Anxiety

[Abe Sargent]

Whopps, looks like I got dupe posts. I still have some conn problems intermittenly.


Vote Bulletsponge, of course


-Anxiety

[Barkeep49]

Yeah the board has definitely been whacky today.

[Abe Sargent]

What's REALLY funny and been making me laugh, is that I had a post that never made it through the board problems, which said:

"What I've been doing with theese previous posts is building a case against Blade. He's acting either with poor judgment or with evil judgment, and I'm beginning to suspect the latter.

Therefore I'm going to

Vote Blade


Let me get caught up on the final page and a half and I'll see if there are any more issues."

Now,think how funny THAT would have been.


-Anxiety

[Barkeep49]

The two ideas are disease versus prophecy, correct?

To me the idea of disease is something that was targeted against Blade. As Lathum has stated there are certainly reasons why people would target Blade from the start for death.

To me the idea of the prophecy was not dealing with Blade specifically and more with his role.

The crucial line I feel is where it talks about how Blade was not favored by the Gods. Now perhaps I am reading too much into this, but that seemed like an important part of the death write up.

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by Anxiety

What's REALLY funny and been making me laugh, is that I had a post that never made it through the board problems, which said:

"What I've been doing with theese previous posts is building a case against Blade. He's acting either with poor judgment or with evil judgment, and I'm beginning to suspect the latter.

Therefore I'm going to

Vote Blade


Let me get caught up on the final page and a half and I'll see if there are any more issues."

Now,think how funny THAT would have been.


-Anxiety

Anxiety as you were doing that I thought about how in previous games that could have been me. I've done the same thing, especially when I have had to catch up several pages.

[SnDvls]

Originally Posted by Tyrith

I think that's why dubb mentioned the Prophecy. I wouldn't completely rule out this being a weird disease kill, but the timing seems weird for that, so I'm inclined to follow dubb for now.

Quick vote count: bullet 10 (11 with blade), everyone else 0, no votes - anxiety, bullet, chubby, king, path, saldana, tangle, vince.

I think I mentioned it first, FYI

[SnDvls]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

The crucial line I feel is where it talks about how Blade was not favored by the Gods. Now perhaps I am reading too much into this, but that seemed like an important part of the death write up.

that line caught my attention too.

[path12]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

That makes a lot of sense. But, I have to ask, were you physically attacked last night, or did you just spot someone in your room? To more accurately describe what happened to me: I heard a noise, and saw a figure leaving. I ran after him, with no luck. However, when I came back, I saw the (useless) dagger, of necromancer style.

Maybe I was diseased, and not attacked?

I was physically attacked. I knocked the arm with the dagger away as it came at me and pulled the attacker to the floor. As I was trying to pull his hood from his face he did something to temporarily blind me and escape.

[Coffee Warlord]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

The crucial line I feel is where it talks about how Blade was not favored by the Gods. Now perhaps I am reading too much into this, but that seemed like an important part of the death write up.

'Favored by the Gods': will avert death (at least) one time during the game. No dice roll is invoked, no opportunity to identify his attacker. He will not even know he was attacked. The necromancers will know that he is 'Favored'. This power is useless against the Mummy or a Disease spell.

Or it could simply be a reference that he, in fact, did not have the above role.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Lathum

Alan, I agree my information from night one is a bit flimsy but at the time we had nothing to discuss. If I was a necro does it seem likely I would have made that information public.

Also, if bullet was scanend last night do you think he would have mentioned anything if he is a necro. I think tonight lynch will shed alot of light on where we are.

Sorry if I am slow to respond, getting all kinds of board database errors when I try to read this thread.

Basically the way I viewed your reveal and Pass's reveal were both ones that would buy a bad guy alot of leeway for many days if they stuck. and your reveal could possibly out the seer if you were a bad guy which is a win also. But in both cases I said it probably did more to add to a little trust for me until we had more information to either dispute or acknowledge your claims.

In this case right now, Im feeling that what Blade said makes me feel like your story does not stand up any longer. He seemed pretty hot on you and well it could all be an act, but he seemed to agressively be saying there is no way he would scan you first night without saying he was the seer.

In fact, it seems to me he came out and said who he scaned early on, and I think we are more likely to trust those people now

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

Blade don't you pm me with any spoilers. Nor anybody else who dies.

lol, but we could talk and talk lol...have fun figuring it all out buddy

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

Barkeep or Dubb. They are the two players i usually fail to get a read on. As Alan T so beautifully revealed on of my major weaknesses in the ninja game, merely supporting me or agreeing with me earns my trust. Talking and playing with me is all it takes really, so since barkeep and dubb usually will go through ideas with me i tend to trust them. Therefore, for me they make the best scans as they are the toughest people for me to read, and for me that means the biggest threats to me(normally it would be hoops, but he is not playing due to his mod duties)

This is the post I was referring to. To me this looks like he just comes out and tells us who he scanned, and thus I would move Dubb and Barkeep up really high on my trust list now.

I don't buy Lathum's story at all any more.

[tanglewood]

Well, today seems relatively easy decision.

Vote bulletsponge

I too was suspicious of Blade, I was all set to post about how I thought he had been acting slightly differently to usual, not posting as much etc. until obviously he turned up dead. It sure seems to me that someone has a particular role that killed him this way, perhaps the prophecy is some kind of bounty hunter/assasin role that can be used at day?