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Old 07-24-2007, 08:01 PM   #1651
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thats showed up, not who...whatever the fuck I wrote.
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Old 07-24-2007, 08:01 PM   #1652
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Old 07-24-2007, 08:06 PM   #1653
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Day 6 Final Vote Count

RendeR 6 - Lathum, twothree, AlanT, path12, LoneStarGirl, Jonathan Ezarik
LoneStarGirl 3 - Chief Rum, RendeR, Telle

RendeR makes his way to the shuttle station under heavy escort. Is he a replicant? Or just a human doomed by his bretheren? Only time will tell.

Night 6 orders in by 10am EST
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Old 07-24-2007, 08:47 PM   #1654
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Well I just went and looked through all of Barkeep's posts, and didn't learn a damn thing from it.
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Old 07-24-2007, 09:11 PM   #1655
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Read what you quoted with this post. Read what was quoted in my post there. Take a reading comprehension course. Get back to me.

I really hope you didn't mean to sound as harsh as you are because I think I have been more then patient with you this game.
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Old 07-24-2007, 10:34 PM   #1656
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I'm a little confused here CR.

If they weren't going to touch any of us, how is it that NTN is umm...dead?

And who are you talking about in the next line? who is it you can't protect?

I was talking about the key people they could have gone after. The likely choices were me, as the BG; you, with your cryptic message and possible seer; twothree, as a proven seer; and Lathum, as a member of a COT and also to screw with us. Instead, they avoided the possibility of running into me whatsoever and killed ntndeacon, who was on no one's radar (that I am aware of).

I think the second line is fairly evident, but I would rather not spell it out.
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Old 07-24-2007, 10:38 PM   #1657
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I really hope you didn't mean to sound as harsh as you are because I think I have been more then patient with you this game.

And I really hope you don't think what you have been doing is called patience, because frankly, you have been extremely antagonistic and insulting for some time now.
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Old 07-24-2007, 10:46 PM   #1658
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not really sure how I have been insulting but if I insulted you in any way I apologize
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Old 07-24-2007, 11:01 PM   #1659
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not really sure how I have been insulting but if I insulted you in any way I apologize

If that's sincere (and I have no reason to think it's not), then thank you. I apologize, too, for being harsh or insulting.
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Old 07-24-2007, 11:14 PM   #1660
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Old 07-25-2007, 08:51 AM   #1661
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man, not one overnight post
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Old 07-25-2007, 08:57 AM   #1662
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man, not one overnight post

I was busy hiding.
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Old 07-25-2007, 09:36 AM   #1663
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This morning again a fatality to report on the increasingly dangerous streets. This time however it someone who many have heard of before, relatively well known designer for Tyrell Corporation JF Sebastian aka Jonathan Ezarik. Today the city mourns him, as the networks run various specials and obituary programs on his celebrated design feats and works.

Day 7 9pm deadline
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Old 07-25-2007, 09:37 AM   #1664
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uh oh, not good
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Old 07-25-2007, 09:40 AM   #1665
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Bummer. That's half of what they need, isn't it? I really hope DT's hint was that he was the other guy.
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Old 07-25-2007, 09:42 AM   #1666
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First...

I don't understand what they have to do with those two guys in order to win. Did they only have to kill both of them to win? Ie: if DT was one, sending him off to mars stopped that victory condition?

Second:

Why on earth Jonathan? he was on my very short list of people to go after.. him, Path and LSG really.

Third:

Twothree did you find out anything last night?
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Old 07-25-2007, 09:43 AM   #1667
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hopefully twothree can give us some information. I am relieved he and chiefrum are still alive.
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Old 07-25-2007, 09:46 AM   #1668
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Well I got no night PM, so it wasn't me that twothree chose to scan. I'm hoping he scanned LSG or Path.
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Old 07-25-2007, 09:48 AM   #1669
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Well that sucks. Although it does help us narrow down our list of potential wolves. And hopefully twothree will show up soon and let us know what he found out.
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Old 07-25-2007, 09:50 AM   #1670
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Well that sucks. Although it does help us narrow down our list of potential wolves. And hopefully twothree will show up soon and let us know what he found out.


Thats the thing, does it suck for us? I don't really have any feal for what the bad guys wanted to do with Sebastian anyhows.. Did they want their seer to scan him? Does killing him ruin their chances to use him? Do they have to kill him in order to reach 1/2 of their goal? (if by some chance DT wasn't the other half of that pair)...

I really actually don't feel bad about that night kill at all. It reduced my list of people to vote for today to just 2 (and possibly 1 depending on twothree's scan).
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Old 07-25-2007, 09:51 AM   #1671
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I didn't get any PM either, so he didn't scan me.
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Old 07-25-2007, 09:53 AM   #1672
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Well at this point I'm guessing that "finding" them equals killing them. And I'm really hoping that DT was Tyrell.. or that someone else that we sent off to Mars was. And if that's the case, then it really just comes down to eliminating all of the unknowns one at a time.

And if twothree didn't scan path or Alan, then who the heck did he scan? Maybe Chief?
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Old 07-25-2007, 09:54 AM   #1673
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The fact that Alan, myself, Chief and Lathum are all still alive makes it very likely that at least one replicant is hiding in that group. I believe Chief is the BG and I know I'm good, so that leaves Alan and Lathum. Though LSG could also be in that group.
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Old 07-25-2007, 09:56 AM   #1674
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OK, so we are down to 7 left. I see no reason to not think Barkeep wasn't a replicant so we are down to 2 possible replicants.

In order of trust.


Lathum- Obviously I put myself on top. Claimed to be scanned night 1 by holden. Listed in Cronins "loose" COT, trusted by Telle based on PM hint.


Telle- scanned by twothree, PM information matches up with my own.


twothree-Deckard, no one disputes this claim


Chief Rum- Claims BG, again no one disputes this

That leaves:

AlanT
LoneStarGirl
path12

Hopefully twothree can clear one and we lynch the other and twothree kills the last one at night.
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Old 07-25-2007, 09:57 AM   #1675
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The humans win when they eliminate all of the replicants, either through violent termination or by shipping them to Mars, or by surviving long enough that the replicants' killswitch activates before deactivivating it. The replicants win either when they gain 1:1 parity with the remaining humans or if they find both the players designated Tyrell and Sebastian.

Couple things. If DT was one of the two it sounds like the replicants then need to get 1:1. That's good for us.

Second thing, I never noticed that killswitch line before. Does that mean there's a time limit or something?
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Old 07-25-2007, 09:57 AM   #1676
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So this is how I am deciding my vote today (barring any other information coming out):

Cleared:
4. Chief Rum - The twothree block was sign to me that a bodyguard was around, and with no one claiming the role instead of Chief, I believe him. If that night wasn't enough, then the next night blocking twothree's kill of Render should be more then enough to satisfy you. (Unless you don't trust twothree)
17. Twothree - Claimed a role and vouched for by someone he scanned (Telle). No reason to doubt it as no one else came out claiming the role. Tonight's person whom was scanned should add additional verification for him.
12. Telle - Was scanned by twothree, if you believe he is good, you have to believe she is good.

Circumstantially cleared:
7. Lathum - We know that Render's story was made up, he self-admitted that. No real doubt to Cronin being the other bladerunner at this point. Cronin made it clear before leaving the game that Lathum was to be trusted, if you believe Cronin was the other blade runner, he would have known not to say what he did about Lathum as it would have been interpreted wrongly. Also Telle vouches for Lathum now based on PM wording.


That leaves:
6. LoneStarGirl
9. path12


Path says he was not scanned, so if Twothree scanned LSG, and she turned up good, I'll vote Path. if Twothree scanned LSG and she turned up bad, I'll vote her. If twothree scanned someone else and neither of these two, then I'll have to decide, but am leaning towards voting LSG.
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Old 07-25-2007, 10:00 AM   #1677
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Yeah I'd say at this point it comes down to Alan, LSG, and path. Right now I'm just waiting to hear what twothree has to say.
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Old 07-25-2007, 10:11 AM   #1678
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I dont know if Cronin was the Seer... I really dont think so though, because he had you and Telle in his COT and like you said... who would scan Telle that early in the game?

LSG has quieted considerably since this statement. I think she realized she messed up and hasn't wanted to call further attention to herself.
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Old 07-25-2007, 10:14 AM   #1679
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Yeah when I went back and looked through Barkeep's posts I noticed that she was really active the first couple of days and has been pretty absent since.
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Old 07-25-2007, 10:57 AM   #1680
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Well the big thing that felt weird to me about LSG earlier on was the way LSG and Barkeep played off of each other. It just has sat with me like a thorn in my side since then and felt like two wolves playing the game of taking the opposite stance from one another.

LSG countered by saying that I always feel that way about her in every game.. and I don't necessarily think that is true, and perhaps some people's play styles make me naturally feel they are guiltier than others.. but I can't help it that this game the way she played with Barkeep just smelled like wolf to me.
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Old 07-25-2007, 11:02 AM   #1681
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I chose to scan Jonathan Ezarik, so there is no help forth coming from me today.
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Old 07-25-2007, 11:06 AM   #1682
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vote LoneStarGirl

No reason, except that she had been MIA.
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Old 07-25-2007, 11:28 AM   #1683
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I chose to scan Jonathan Ezarik, so there is no help forth coming from me today.

ugh.
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Old 07-25-2007, 11:29 AM   #1684
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Old 07-25-2007, 11:34 AM   #1685
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why JE?
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Old 07-25-2007, 11:35 AM   #1686
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why JE?

utr
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Old 07-25-2007, 11:37 AM   #1687
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did you see him get attacked?
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Old 07-25-2007, 11:40 AM   #1688
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did you see him get attacked?

No. I just found the body.
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Old 07-25-2007, 11:40 AM   #1689
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I think twothree needs to kill alan or Path tonight
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Old 07-25-2007, 11:45 AM   #1690
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I think twothree needs to kill alan or Path tonight

or LoneStarGirl.
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Old 07-25-2007, 11:49 AM   #1691
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Old 07-25-2007, 11:50 AM   #1692
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I think twothree needs to kill alan or Path tonight


I am totally fine with one of those choices.
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Old 07-25-2007, 11:52 AM   #1693
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Actually i am as well. If we vote LSG today and the game continues, then kill me or path tonight.

If you kill me, I will turn up good and everyone vote path tommorrow.

if you kill path, then the game should likely end at that point I imagine.
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Old 07-25-2007, 11:54 AM   #1694
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Looks like I am gone tonight. Wish I would have been scanned... I dont understand why JE was scanned when nobody told Twothree to do so. Almost everybody suggested Alant or myself.
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Old 07-25-2007, 11:59 AM   #1695
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Looks like I am gone tonight. Wish I would have been scanned... I dont understand why JE was scanned when nobody told Twothree to do so. Almost everybody suggested Alant or myself.

I agree JE is an odd choice but if you aren't a wolf then that means one of 2 things.

1. AlanT and Path are both wolves
2. Myself or Chiefrum has played a brilliant wolf game. I know it isn't me and doubt it was chief since his role seems to add up.
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Old 07-25-2007, 12:05 PM   #1696
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I agree JE is an odd choice but if you aren't a wolf then that means one of 2 things.

1. AlanT and Path are both wolves
2. Myself or Chiefrum has played a brilliant wolf game. I know it isn't me and doubt it was chief since his role seems to add up.


I actually have played through scenerios in my head to why ntn and jonathan both have been killed back to back. It made no sense to me, and one of them is if the entire CoT was bogus.

We KNOW twothree was sent to the hospital for a day unable to post via some game mechanic. So I can't fathom what game mechanic would have allowed for that if he was bad, unless a real blade runner was out there.. and they would have spoken up by now, so the fact there isn't one.. I can't help but believe twothree is good.

Thusly if you feel twothree is good, you have to believe Telle is good. He vouches for her having scanner her.

Also if you believe twothree is good, then you know he was attacked one night, and blocked from killing another night. That tells us that the bodyguard has to be around. Chief has claimed the role.. and no one has opposed it.. so then you have to think he is good..

The only one in the CoT that I can't fully trust is Lathum, as his being in there is due to being vouched for by someone who is dead without further clarification, and being vouched for my someone else who we believe is good based on PM. Thus I feel it highly likely Lathum is good.

I can't help but think that Path and/or LSG therefore are bad.

if Twothree/Chief/Telle are bad, then well.. they deserve to win as I've been completely snowed under.
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Old 07-25-2007, 12:15 PM   #1697
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We KNOW twothree was sent to the hospital for a day unable to post via some game mechanic. So I can't fathom what game mechanic would have allowed for that if he was bad, unless a real blade runner was out there.. and they would have spoken up by now, so the fact there isn't one.. I can't help but believe twothree is good.

Also if you believe twothree is good, then you know he was attacked one night, and blocked from killing another night. That tells us that the bodyguard has to be around. Chief has claimed the role.. and no one has opposed it.. so then you have to think he is good.

Can anyone explain to mean why it was that when Chief Rum guarded me it put me in the hospital? But, when he guarded RendeR, all it did was block the kill?
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Old 07-25-2007, 12:16 PM   #1698
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My gut says Alan and LSG are the last 2.
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Old 07-25-2007, 12:17 PM   #1699
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Can anyone explain to mean why it was that when Chief Rum guarded me it put me in the hospital? But, when he guarded RendeR, all it did was block the kill?

Could be the replicants have to pick who does the kill and the more powerfull one tried to kill you.
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Old 07-25-2007, 12:17 PM   #1700
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Can anyone explain to mean why it was that when Chief Rum guarded me it put me in the hospital? But, when he guarded RendeR, all it did was block the kill?


Good question.. but if chief isn't the bodyguard how did your attack on render get blocked?
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