Game of Thrones on HBO - Page 34

flere-imsaho · 04-16-2014, 01:05 PM

Honestly, Bran's storyline is one of the most interesting, to me. Bran/Summer is easily my favorite character in the books so far.

Oh, and that vid was very awesome.

Coffee Warlord · 04-16-2014, 01:06 PM

Bran, in my opinion, suffers from the same problem as Dany's storyline - that of the 'jesus, enough fucking traveling, get on with it already!' genre.

panerd · 04-16-2014, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DanGarion

Hot queen? You are obviously talking about the new queen... right?

No. I think the incestious queen is a super hot older woman. (Unless she is younger than I think and then my opinion changes to just hot) The lady who gave birth to the devil thing is pretty hot also.

ISiddiqui · 04-16-2014, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

Bran, in my opinion, suffers from the same problem as Dany's storyline - that of the 'jesus, enough fucking traveling, get on with it already!' genre.

On the other hand:

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ISiddiqui · 04-16-2014, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by panerd

No. I think the incestious queen is a super hot older woman. (Unless she is younger than I think and then my opinion changes to just hot) The lady who gave birth to the devil thing is pretty hot also.

Lena Headey is 41

DanGarion · 04-16-2014, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by panerd

No. I think the incestious queen is a super hot older woman. (Unless she is younger than I think and then my opinion changes to just hot) The lady who gave birth to the devil thing is pretty hot also.

But the hottest queen is the newest queen of King's Landing!

Grover · 04-16-2014, 01:28 PM

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But the hottest queen is the newest queen of King's Landing!

I just wish she wasn't in perma-duckface, otherwise I agree.

SteveMax58 · 04-16-2014, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Grover

I just wish she wasn't in perma-duckface, otherwise I agree.

Yeah it sorta pisses me off.

But I like ole Cersei (Lena Headey) as well.

ISiddiqui · 04-16-2014, 01:50 PM

I'd contest that the hottest queen is the one in Slaver's Bay at the moment.

You know...
Queen of the Andals and the Rhoynar and the First Men, Lord of the Seven Kingdoms
Khaleesi of the Great Grass Sea
Breaker of Shackles/Chains

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Princess of Dragonstone

Coffee Warlord · 04-16-2014, 02:06 PM

Yes. The hottest queen award goes to one Stormborn.

DaddyTorgo · 04-16-2014, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

Yes. The hottest queen award goes to one Stormborn.

That being said - a Margery/Danerys/DT triumviarte would be hot.

ISiddiqui · 04-16-2014, 02:25 PM

DaddyTorgo · 04-16-2014, 02:26 PM

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DT?

ISiddiqui · 04-16-2014, 02:32 PM

Personally I would think it'd be creepy getting aroused by watching yourself, but you know...

DaddyTorgo · 04-16-2014, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

Personally I would think it'd be creepy getting aroused by watching yourself, but you know...

Nowhere did I say watching...

ISiddiqui · 04-16-2014, 03:08 PM

"would be hot" seems to implies someone is watching... (you know, as opposed to "would be awesome"

).

stevew · 04-16-2014, 03:21 PM

Who wants to watch a Demaryius Thomas sex tape?

panerd · 04-16-2014, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

I'd contest that the hottest queen is the one in Slaver's Bay at the moment.

You know...
Queen of the Andals and the Rhoynar and the First Men, Lord of the Seven Kingdoms
Khaleesi of the Great Grass Sea
Breaker of Shackles/Chains
Princess of Dragonstone

Yes...

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Originally Posted by panerd

Yes. Obviously the book readers learned their names and then put characters face to them. I just think of them as the hot dragon lady, the hot queen, the boy that can't walk, the little tomgirl with the big knight, the tall amazon women who saved the handless Lanaster guy...

SteveMax58 · 04-16-2014, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew

Who wants to watch a Demaryius Thomas sex tape?

He meant Daenerys Thomas....his sister.

GrantDawg · 04-16-2014, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu

Awesome trailer vid.

Too awesome. "King Justin Bieber."

General Mike · 04-16-2014, 05:43 PM

I started watching about 3 weeks ago or so and am now caught up. I guess I'm of the same mindset as you guys. The Bran storyline is just so slow developing that I don't care.

The stuff with Danaerys is much less annoying to me because despite all the travelling, at least stuff is happening there.

Alan T · 04-16-2014, 07:00 PM

the tv shows made the Danaerys story line much more appealing than in the books. At times in the books it seriously felt like Danaerys had 500+ pages where absolutely nothing would happen thaT mattered. In fact I think that is one of the places the tv show has done the best is making that story line actually enjoyable.

PilotMan · 04-16-2014, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

the tv shows made the Danaerys story line much more appealing than in the books. At times in the books it seriously felt like Danaerys had 500+ pages where absolutely nothing would happen thaT mattered. In fact I think that is one of the places the tv show has done the best is making that story line actually enjoyable.

I fear for what she has coming up though. It's been good, but you're right. Her chapters just went painfully slow.

ISiddiqui · 04-16-2014, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

the tv shows made the Danaerys story line much more appealing than in the books. At times in the books it seriously felt like Danaerys had 500+ pages where absolutely nothing would happen thaT mattered. In fact I think that is one of the places the tv show has done the best is making that story line actually enjoyable.

Well yes... but that's more coming up isn't it? Daenerys was a fantastic read in Storm of Swords (arguably the best storyline of the lot).

Logan · 04-17-2014, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

the tv shows made the Danaerys story line much more appealing than in the books. At times in the books it seriously felt like Danaerys had 500+ pages where absolutely nothing would happen thaT mattered. In fact I think that is one of the places the tv show has done the best is making that story line actually enjoyable.

The nudity and her being beautiful sure helped.

Alan T · 04-17-2014, 07:55 AM

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Well yes... but that's more coming up isn't it? Daenerys was a fantastic read in Storm of Swords (arguably the best storyline of the lot).

I think I would disagree. For me Daenerys' and Bran's storylines throughout the entire books are very dull and drawn out. Each of them could have been made far shorter and more to the point. It also did not help either of them that were virtually the only two main story lines that had no interaction with any of the others at some point.

My argument is as the books continue, Daenerys' story line does not get any better, we just end up with even more of these isolated story lines that do not seem to tie together very well.

flere-imsaho · 04-17-2014, 08:37 AM

Well, presumably they have to tie together at some point.

ISiddiqui · 04-17-2014, 09:19 AM

That was the entire issue behind the "Meereenese Knot" after all.

NobodyHere · 04-20-2014, 08:37 PM

They really changed Tommen's character from what I remember.

I always thought of him as a naive child who stamped everything his mother put in front of him.

In the show he's much more thoughtful and wants to be a wise king.

claphamsa · 04-20-2014, 09:22 PM

I didnt get that at all.

stevew · 04-20-2014, 09:47 PM

These "Last Week Tonight" spots are a scourge.

JPhillips · 04-20-2014, 09:50 PM

I don't understand why they had to make Tommen older. In the books he is nine when he becomes king. In the series he had to be 12 or 13. There's a big difference between a fourth grader and a middle schooler.

ISiddiqui · 04-20-2014, 10:00 PM

Because they made all the kids older.

DaddyTorgo · 04-20-2014, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew

These "Last Week Tonight" spots are a scourge.

I thought they were funny. I think I've seen enough of them though.

Coffee Warlord · 04-20-2014, 10:33 PM

I do so love the "Dany Kills Things" theme song.

Slow episode, though.

DaddyTorgo · 04-20-2014, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

I do so love the "Dany Kills Things" theme song.

Slow episode, though.

Slow, but I thought there were some nice moments. The Sansa-escape bit was nice, and I thought the Pod/Tyrion bit was nice, as of course was Arya/Hound.

And I liked Dany's speech to the slaves of Mereen.

stevew · 04-20-2014, 10:55 PM

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I thought they were funny. I think I've seen enough of them though.

I had to Google to figure out who that dude was. I can't wait til the show gets going so they can run a different spot.

Coffee Warlord · 04-21-2014, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

Slow, but I thought there were some nice moments. The Sansa-escape bit was nice, and I thought the Pod/Tyrion bit was nice, as of course was Arya/Hound.

And I liked Dany's speech to the slaves of Mereen.

Yeah, most of the scenes worked. I found it strange they spent not 1, but 2 scenes with Sam/whatsherface. I woulda been perfectly happy with that being cut entirely.

Vince, Pt. II · 04-21-2014, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by claphamsa

I didnt get that at all.

Tywin taking control, Cersei losing everything. Just further cementing that theme. In the books, Tommen was definitely more of a simpleton, but I think that scene was more to illustrate that even his siblings didn't care for Joffrey much. Pretty sure in the books he and Myrcella weren't big fans of his.

NobodyHere · 04-21-2014, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

And I liked Dany's speech to the slaves of Mereen.

Dany really knows how to project her voice.

flere-imsaho · 04-21-2014, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Vince, Pt. II

Pretty sure in the books he and Myrcella weren't big fans of his.

IIRC in the books they were (especially Tommen) very scared of Joffrey.

JPhillips · 04-21-2014, 11:12 AM

My problem with Tommen is that at his current age the marriage to Margarey is very different. At nine it was believable that Tommen was more interested in childlike things, but at twelve or thirteen and mature it will be hard to believe that Tommen isn't interested in a sexual relationship and that Margarey ends up controlling him.

ISiddiqui · 04-21-2014, 11:30 AM

I think they have shown how manipulative Margarey can be with Joffery... so I can see her controlling Tommen a bit as well.

stevew · 04-21-2014, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

Yeah, most of the scenes worked. I found it strange they spent not 1, but 2 scenes with Sam/whatsherface. I woulda been perfectly happy with that being cut entirely.

Yeah, one line of dialogue works as well as those scenes.

Honolulu_Blue · 04-21-2014, 12:25 PM

Everything with Tywin was great. His scene with Tommen in front of Cersei and dead Joffery and his scene with Oberyn.

I found the Sam/Gilly stuff to be a bit too long and unnecessary.

I was very... unsure of the Jamie/Cersei scene, though I vaguely recall a similar scene in the books.

The Dany stuff was great, though I had to shed a little tear for Strong Belwas. That was his time to shine in the books (though I am pretty sure that whole battle versus the champion took place at Yunkai and not Mereen). I totally understand why he's not in the show and why the changed the location of the fight, but still, I missed the big man.

Scoobz0202 · 04-21-2014, 12:42 PM

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I was very... unsure of the Jamie/Cersei scene, though I vaguely recall a similar scene in the books.

I have never read the books but I have seen some other places on the internet that are a little confused on this. According to some people it was consensual in the books and while i have no source other than random fans on the internet the director said that even in the tv show it was supposedly consensual.. but that didn't look like it was..

My thought is are we to assume it was consensual moving forward in their relationship dynamic or that it was forced or will it not have any effect on anything just another sex scene.

thesloppy · 04-21-2014, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Scoobz0202

I have never read the books but I have seen some other places on the internet that are a little confused on this. According to some people it was consensual in the books and while i have no source other than random fans on the internet the director said that even in the tv show it was supposedly consensual.. but that didn't look like it was..

The AVClub did a whole entire, way-too-long article on this subject, subtly titled "Rape of Thrones":

Rape of Thrones · For Our Consideration · The A.V. Club

flere-imsaho · 04-21-2014, 06:45 PM

There's a trope in TV and especially film where the man pushes things forward (so to speak) on an unwilling woman and she ends up liking it despite herself. I think that's a terrible trope, tbh.

In the books Martin (who is normally somewhat of a teenager when it comes to sex scenes) treated this very well. As I recall, Cersei (in the books) wanted to be as turned on by Jaime as she used to be, but she just couldn't make it happen. So she started with shock, then tried to find pleasure, and then turned to a quiet disgust.

flere-imsaho · 04-21-2014, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips

My problem with Tommen is that at his current age the marriage to Margarey is very different. At nine it was believable that Tommen was more interested in childlike things, but at twelve or thirteen and mature it will be hard to believe that Tommen isn't interested in a sexual relationship and that Margarey ends up controlling him.

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

I think they have shown how manipulative Margarey can be with Joffery... so I can see her controlling Tommen a bit as well.

Yes, but it means it'll be quite different. Margarey controlling Tommen with sex as opposed to bringing him kittens.

terpkristin · 04-21-2014, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by flere-imsaho

There's a trope in TV and especially film where the man pushes things forward (so to speak) on an unwilling woman and she ends up liking it despite herself. I think that's a terrible trope, tbh.

In the books Martin (who is normally somewhat of a teenager when it comes to sex scenes) treated this very well. As I recall, Cersei (in the books) wanted to be as turned on by Jaime as she used to be, but she just couldn't make it happen. So she started with shock, then tried to find pleasure, and then turned to a quiet disgust.

The AV club link actually has the text from the book. She was definitely into it, though she didn't want to do it in the sept.

I haven't seen last night's episode though even before I read the AV club thing, based on the Twitter comments, I figured out what it was about...

/tk

04-16-2014, 01:50 PM	#1659
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	I'd contest that the hottest queen is the one in Slaver's Bay at the moment. You know... Queen of the Andals and the Rhoynar and the First Men, Lord of the Seven Kingdoms Khaleesi of the Great Grass Sea Breaker of Shackles/Chains Spoiler Queen of Meereen Princess of Dragonstone __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

04-16-2014, 02:25 PM	#1662
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	DT? __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

04-16-2014, 02:32 PM	#1664
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	Personally I would think it'd be creepy getting aroused by watching yourself, but you know... __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

04-16-2014, 03:08 PM	#1666
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	"would be hot" seems to implies someone is watching... (you know, as opposed to "would be awesome" ). __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

04-16-2014, 05:43 PM	#1671
General Mike Pro Starter Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: The State of Rutgers	I started watching about 3 weeks ago or so and am now caught up. I guess I'm of the same mindset as you guys. The Bran storyline is just so slow developing that I don't care. The stuff with Danaerys is much less annoying to me because despite all the travelling, at least stuff is happening there. Last edited by General Mike : 04-16-2014 at 05:44 PM.

04-16-2014, 01:05 PM	#1651
flere-imsaho Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Chicagoland	Honestly, Bran's storyline is one of the most interesting, to me. Bran/Summer is easily my favorite character in the books so far. Oh, and that vid was very awesome.

04-16-2014, 01:06 PM	#1652
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	Bran, in my opinion, suffers from the same problem as Dany's storyline - that of the 'jesus, enough fucking traveling, get on with it already!' genre.

04-16-2014, 02:06 PM	#1660
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	Yes. The hottest queen award goes to one Stormborn.

04-16-2014, 03:21 PM	#1667
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Who wants to watch a Demaryius Thomas sex tape?

04-16-2014, 07:00 PM	#1672
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	the tv shows made the Danaerys story line much more appealing than in the books. At times in the books it seriously felt like Danaerys had 500+ pages where absolutely nothing would happen thaT mattered. In fact I think that is one of the places the tv show has done the best is making that story line actually enjoyable. __________________ Couch to ??k - From the couch to a Marathon in roughly 18 months.

04-17-2014, 08:37 AM	#1677
flere-imsaho Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Chicagoland	Well, presumably they have to tie together at some point.

04-17-2014, 09:19 AM	#1678
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	That was the entire issue behind the "Meereenese Knot" after all. __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

04-20-2014, 08:37 PM	#1679
NobodyHere Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2013	They really changed Tommen's character from what I remember. I always thought of him as a naive child who stamped everything his mother put in front of him. In the show he's much more thoughtful and wants to be a wise king. __________________ "I am God's prophet, and I need an attorney"

04-20-2014, 09:22 PM	#1680
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	I didnt get that at all. __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

04-20-2014, 09:47 PM	#1681
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	These "Last Week Tonight" spots are a scourge.

04-20-2014, 09:50 PM	#1682
JPhillips Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Newburgh, NY	I don't understand why they had to make Tommen older. In the books he is nine when he becomes king. In the series he had to be 12 or 13. There's a big difference between a fourth grader and a middle schooler. __________________ To love someone is to strive to accept that person exactly the way he or she is, right here and now.. - Mr. Rogers

04-20-2014, 10:00 PM	#1683
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	Because they made all the kids older. __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

04-20-2014, 10:33 PM	#1685
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	I do so love the "Dany Kills Things" theme song. Slow episode, though. Last edited by Coffee Warlord : 04-20-2014 at 10:34 PM.

04-21-2014, 11:12 AM	#1692
JPhillips Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Newburgh, NY	My problem with Tommen is that at his current age the marriage to Margarey is very different. At nine it was believable that Tommen was more interested in childlike things, but at twelve or thirteen and mature it will be hard to believe that Tommen isn't interested in a sexual relationship and that Margarey ends up controlling him. __________________ To love someone is to strive to accept that person exactly the way he or she is, right here and now.. - Mr. Rogers

04-21-2014, 11:30 AM	#1693
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	I think they have shown how manipulative Margarey can be with Joffery... so I can see her controlling Tommen a bit as well. __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

04-21-2014, 12:25 PM	#1695
Honolulu_Blue Hockey Boy Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Royal Oak, MI	Everything with Tywin was great. His scene with Tommen in front of Cersei and dead Joffery and his scene with Oberyn. I found the Sam/Gilly stuff to be a bit too long and unnecessary. I was very... unsure of the Jamie/Cersei scene, though I vaguely recall a similar scene in the books. The Dany stuff was great, though I had to shed a little tear for Strong Belwas. That was his time to shine in the books (though I am pretty sure that whole battle versus the champion took place at Yunkai and not Mereen). I totally understand why he's not in the show and why the changed the location of the fight, but still, I missed the big man. __________________ *Steve Yzerman*: 1,755 points in 1,514 regular season games. 185 points in 196 postseason games. A First-Team All-Star, Conn Smythe Trophy winner, Selke Trophy winner, Masterton Trophy winner, member of the Hockey Hall of Fame, Olympic gold medallist, and a three-time Stanley Cup Champion. Longest serving captain of one team in the history of the NHL (19 seasons).

04-21-2014, 06:45 PM	#1698
flere-imsaho Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Chicagoland	There's a trope in TV and especially film where the man pushes things forward (so to speak) on an unwilling woman and she ends up liking it despite herself. I think that's a terrible trope, tbh. In the books Martin (who is normally somewhat of a teenager when it comes to sex scenes) treated this very well. As I recall, Cersei (in the books) wanted to be as turned on by Jaime as she used to be, but she just couldn't make it happen. So she started with shock, then tried to find pleasure, and then turned to a quiet disgust.

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