Console Discussion/E3/Tokyo Game Show Thread

[Eaglesfan27]

Originally Posted by TroyF

Assassin's Creed 4 is the one I keep thinking about trying out. Everyone says it's amazing. I tried #2 or #3 and couldn't get into it. Is 4 really worth the time?

I couldn't get into 2 or 3 but I love 4.

[MizzouRah]

My daughter uses skype so much I have to make sure I'm on my best behavior.

Voice commands are great.. no controller to be found, don't want to get up.. "xbox turn off" and I'm out like a light on the couch.

[INDalltheway]

Originally Posted by jaygr

That's partly the issue in that I was hoping that the Xbox could replace the roku I have hooked up, mostly to reduce the clutter. The only thing is that I'm a big user of Plex and I doubt I could get that on the Xbox, so it may be a moot point anyway.

As far as running the cable box through, will it also control the tv turning on and off? So I would come into the room and just say 'Xbox watch TV' and everything would turn on? I guess I'm also trying to gauge how wife friendly it will be as well She's fine with tech but if it was much harder to get started up and going then she may sour on it.

My GF uses the Xbox more than I do. Just the other day she set it up so the Xbox signs her in automatically with the Kinect. The voice commands work pretty damn well. The only place I really want to use a controller is using Netflix. You can definitely get away with using just voice commands I just find it easier to use the controller. I'm not doing much gaming with my system yet, but the reason I wanted to get the system was to bring everything in living room onto one device and it does that for me.

[MizzouRah]

Dragon Age: Inquisition: Discover the Dragon Age - IGN Video

I can't wait for this one..

[mckerney]

Originally Posted by MizzouRah

Dragon Age: Inquisition: Discover the Dragon Age - IGN Video

I can't wait for this one..

Inquisition is certainly on my radar, but its definitely a wait for reviews and then until it's available at a pretty big discount after Bioware's recent releases.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Here's something you don't see very often......unless you're Canadian.

Sony's PlayStation 4 going up $50 | Gaming | Tech | Toronto Sun

[Mota]

There's about a 10% difference between CAD and USD right now, so why would the price of the new games be rising by 16%? As a Canadian that really pisses me off, and I will try to order my games from the US to avoid these stupid overcharges.

[cthomer5000]

Originally Posted by Kodos

None of them were regular gamers, so I dominated our matches. My best friend's wife would get pissed because she would kill me one too many times and I would start targeting just her. It was fun.

A year ago I was certain I'd be buying a new console at launch, but now I could easily see it being 2015 before I pick up a new one.

1) I still have a handful of games I want to play on the 360/PS3 that I haven't gotten around to.

2) There are a couple of games only coming out for the "old" systems that I definitely want to play (currently playing Dark Souls 2 on 360), Persona 5 is coming to the old consoles in 2015 (kind of insane).

3) I bought a PS Vita off a friend a year back and put 100 hours into Persona 4 Golden. Not usually a fan of tremendously long games, but my last 6 months has been full of them.

4) Playstation Plus just keeps giving me a bigger backlog of games to play on PS3.


5) I was 100% an XBOX guy on this generation, and the way they have mangled every aspect of the XB1 has left a very sour taste in my mouth. It's almost something right out of "The Producers." They even broke things that were perfect on the 360 (party system, automatic sign-in). You just shake your head when you see the things they are fixing in patches. They over-thought this system soooo badly.


6) As you get older and and have much less free time, its' really incredibly hard to justify $500 on a system you know you'll only buy a few games for annually.

[stevew]

You might like DagonRompa:Trigger Happy if you like Persona.

[MizzouRah]

Target selling repackaged PS4's for $280

http://n4g.com/news/1474234/target-sell ... es-for-280

[mckerney]

Originally Posted by cthomer5000

A year ago I was certain I'd be buying a new console at launch, but now I could easily see it being 2015 before I pick up a new one.

1) I still have a handful of games I want to play on the 360/PS3 that I haven't gotten around to.

2) There are a couple of games only coming out for the "old" systems that I definitely want to play (currently playing Dark Souls 2 on 360), Persona 5 is coming to the old consoles in 2015 (kind of insane).

3) I bought a PS Vita off a friend a year back and put 100 hours into Persona 4 Golden. Not usually a fan of tremendously long games, but my last 6 months has been full of them.

4) Playstation Plus just keeps giving me a bigger backlog of games to play on PS3.


5) I was 100% an XBOX guy on this generation, and the way they have mangled every aspect of the XB1 has left a very sour taste in my mouth. It's almost something right out of "The Producers." They even broke things that were perfect on the 360 (party system, automatic sign-in). You just shake your head when you see the things they are fixing in patches. They over-thought this system soooo badly.


6) As you get older and and have much less free time, its' really incredibly hard to justify $500 on a system you know you'll only buy a few games for annually.

I'm in the same boat as you, still 15 or so games on PS3 plus some PS+ games, just spent 80 hours playing Bravely Default (still need to pick up a Vita and Persona 4 at some point) and have a couple other 3DS RPGs, plus who knows how many unplayed games on Steam. Will probably be a while before i pick up another console, though the next one I buy will probably be a Wii U.

[jaygr]

I picked up the Xbox One Titan Fall bundle last night. It was actually pretty hard to find. A number of stores said they had it in stock on their websites but when I went they didn't have it. Finally had to settle for GameStop and even then they only had one left and it was a preorder that they felt the guy wouldn't be in anytime soon to pick up so they gave it to me.

It was getting late so I didn't get a chance to dig too deep. It is a small thing but I was impressed with the packaging and the quality. It made it felt like it was quality, considering all the cash I forked over for it, this was nice.

I didn't have a Kinect for my 360 so it was my first exposure to it. I was impressed with how well it worked and how it integrated with the system using voice commands or recognizing me. My wife was interested in the zumba fitness game so we tried a demo of it and she really enjoyed it. She's not really a gamer but she wants us to pick it up so she can play it.

Titan Fall was a download and not a physical copy. All I had to do was scan a code with the Kinect and was able to get the game. It didn't take a long time to download but it took quite some time to install. In fact I didn't even get a chance to play it because it was getting pretty late by that point.

Today I am going to try titan Fall and also go through some more of the set up and features. So far I am impressed. I am really getting what MS was going for with the One and I like it.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by cthomer5000

6) As you get older and and have much less free time, its' really incredibly hard to justify $500 on a system you know you'll only buy a few games for annually.

I hit this point about 6-8 years ago or so I think. For my entire life, I had always gotten every new system as it had come, but that pretty much stopped with the playstation2/xbox360/wii. I haven't bought a new console since those.

I keep looking in game stores for reasons on why I should get something new, but honestly with the pricing these days, it just does not justify spending that much for the very small handful of games that may interest me. I have way too many other forms of entertainment now.

I do occasionally get wii or xbox360 games for the kids, but they don't really play them that much. They almost always just prefer to play games on their ipods/iphones instead. So unless something changes in a big way, my household likely won't be buying anything in this generation of console either.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Phil Spencer discusses the Xbox reveal last year.......

News: We shouldn't have "sugar-coated" the Xbox One controversy, admits Phil Spencer - OXM US

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Interesting read on the biggest complaints on each current-gen console.

Report details biggest problems with next generation consoles | Plugged In - Yahoo Games

[Fidatelo]

My friend brought his PS4 over on Friday night and me, him, and my brother played Towerfall. For like 4 hours. And it felt like 45 minutes. I can't say much about the system otherwise but that game is fantastic for getting together with a few dudes and chilling out.

Oh and I was pleasantly surprised by the controller. I've always hated PlayStation controllers but that one didn't bother me at all and I was holding the thing the whole night.

[sterlingice]

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

Interesting read on the biggest complaints on each current-gen console.

Report details biggest problems with next generation consoles | Plugged In - Yahoo Games

I wish it was broken down by number and not percentage. For instance, last gen, the Wii and X360 numbers would still add up to 100% but the numbers would be vastly different.

SI

[TroyF]

Originally Posted by sterlingice

I wish it was broken down by number and not percentage. For instance, last gen, the Wii and X360 numbers would still add up to 100% but the numbers would be vastly different.

SI

Agree. The numbers are interesting none the less.

The disc drive from MS obviously wasn't as big of a problem as it was made out to be one day one. I have both and haven't had a problem with either.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Some good news for MS......

Titanfall boosts Xbox One sales by 96 per cent in the UK • News • Xbox One • Eurogamer.net

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Title of this article is inaccurate as the actual survey conveys the opinions of people who previously owned both PS3 and X360, but interesting information nonetheless.

Xbox owners are deserting Microsoft consoles for the PlayStation 4 - Yahoo Games

[stevew]

Shocker that once a console selling game is released, consoles are sold!

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by stevew

Shocker that once a console selling game is released, consoles are sold!

The PS4 throws a pretty big wrench in that theory. It's the fastest selling console in history and has no console-selling exclusives.

[jeff061]

How does that throw a wrench in his theory or did I miss where he said that was the only way consoles sell.

You can remove the Sony binky, can't you?

[stevew]

I was talking about titanfall.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by jeff061

How does that throw a wrench in his theory or did I miss where he said that was the only way consoles sell.

You can remove the Sony binky, can't you?

It's not a binky. It's an honest point. For so long, the console sales have been driven by pack-in games or packages. Nintendo is the clear leader in that category, with Super Mario Bros. and Wii Sports literally driving those two consoles to success. MS has made good hay with Halo on its previous two consoles and now look to do the same with Titanfall.

Obviously, Sony has some titles coming, but they continue to sell at a record breaking pace with no clear must-have title. It's great for Sony, but it's clearly going to change the thinking going forward on what you need to focus on when you launch a console.

Edit: It should be noted that MS wasn't the only one to see a huge jump in sales last week. The PS4 sales jumped 72% in the same week and actually sold almost as many units as XB1.

[jeff061]

Honest point like saying "You're wrong, the grass isn't" after someone says "The sky's blue".

You're like a cartoon character.

[BillJasper]

It really comes down to who has better marketing. Most people are sheep.

[DaddyTorgo]

I think price point played a big role in it too.

Or to be more accurate...releasing the Xbox without a system-selling game made the $100 price difference seem even larger to those buyers who were open to persuasion.

If there was a system-selling game to back up the higher price point it might have been one thing, but with just the "non-gaming" features, trying to push the higher price point was an additional mountain to climb.

[BillJasper]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

I think price point played a big role in it too.

Or to be more accurate...releasing the Xbox without a system-selling game made the $100 price difference seem even larger to those buyers who were open to persuasion.

If there was a system-selling game to back up the higher price point it might have been one thing, but with just the "non-gaming" features, trying to push the higher price point was an additional mountain to climb.

I agree. Plus, I think they simply released too close to the Playstation 4. The decision forced people to pick one coming out of the gate and leave the other sitting on the store shelf. These numbers may be totally reversed had they released a week prior to Sony instead of a week later.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

First Tretton, now Whitten.....

http://news.xbox.com/2014/03/games-marc-whitten

[Eaglesfan27]

PS4-exclusive Infamous: Second Son lead designer leaves Sony - GameSpot

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by BillJasper

I agree. Plus, I think they simply released too close to the Playstation 4. The decision forced people to pick one coming out of the gate and leave the other sitting on the store shelf. These numbers may be totally reversed had they released a week prior to Sony instead of a week later.

Yeah, and without a "system selling" game and coming out of a recession, the $100 extra was probably a tough pill for a lot of the "persuadable" buyers I'd venture to guess.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

PS4-exclusive Infamous: Second Son lead designer leaves Sony - GameSpot

This smells like another designer looking to go indie. While the AAA titles do make more money, a lot of these guys feel like they lose flexibility and control on these huge development teams.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

New regions for September X1 release......

Xbox Live's Major Nelson » Xbox One Coming to 26 new markets in September :

[jeff061]

I imagine it's not uncommon for designers to move around after what they spent years designing is "complete".

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Another big director moving around. Should be fun to see where all these people land.

God of War Dev Stig Asmussen Leaves Sony Santa Monica - IGN

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Project Morpheus revealed.

http://blog.eu.playstation.com/2014/...ject-morpheus/

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

ID@Xbox games revealed.....

http://news.xbox.com/2014/03/games-i...mes-first-look

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Eve: Valkyrie coming to PS4:

CCP states EVE: Valkyrie's Oculus co-publishing deal was exclusive to the PC, game coming to PS4 | Polygon

[stevew]

I love how these game companies keep pimping VR shit to people that have routinely dismissed it and such. I would guess this morpheus thing costs at least $200 or more, unless it gets heavily subsidized. Oculus Rift goggles are like $300.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by stevew

I love how these game companies keep pimping VR shit to people that have routinely dismissed it and such. I would guess this morpheus thing costs at least $200 or more, unless it gets heavily subsidized. Oculus Rift goggles are like $300.

It's definitely reaching a breaking point. They need to make this round work or it's going to be awhile before they get another shot. I believe that Sony is hoping to make it down to the $200 price point.

MS also has one in the works for X1, but is reportedly a bit behind the other two at this point of development.

[TroyF]

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

It's definitely reaching a breaking point. They need to make this round work or it's going to be awhile before they get another shot. I believe that Sony is hoping to make it down to the $200 price point.

MS also has one in the works for X1, but is reportedly a bit behind the other two at this point of development.

I would guess MS is:

1) Probably further along than they are letting on
2) Going to wait until the other two come out before taking a dive
3) Probably has a few more things up their sleeves before they make this move.


I am NOT saying MS is going to win the round of consoles or that what they do have will workt. I am saying MS knew exactly what Sony was working on and the Rift. Them not announcing anything could either be seen as them not having any plans or them planning on throwing a surprise out of their rear ends. I'm guessing the latter.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by TroyF

I would guess MS is:

1) Probably further along than they are letting on
2) Going to wait until the other two come out before taking a dive
3) Probably has a few more things up their sleeves before they make this move.

I am NOT saying MS is going to win the round of consoles or that what they do have will workt. I am saying MS knew exactly what Sony was working on and the Rift. Them not announcing anything could either be seen as them not having any plans or them planning on throwing a surprise out of their rear ends. I'm guessing the latter.

Regardless of how far along they are, I bet they go ahead and make some sort of announcement at E3 just so they don't get trumped by Sony in any way. It doesn't have to be ready at that point. They just need to show it's on the way.

[SackAttack]

I would expect anything VR-related in this generation to end up more or less how the Kinect did in the 360 generation. That is, it will come out late in the lifecycle and to prime the pump for the subsequent generation. You'll see a selection of PS4 and Xbox One games that use VR goggles, either the Oculus Rift or something proprietary. Next generation, the tech will be included in the box, or will be sold separately for around $60-100.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

No surprise here. Rumor that Titanfall 2 will not be X1 exclusive.

Report: EA lands deal for Titanfall 2, sequel won't be Microsoft exclusive | Polygon

Leaked pics of next Assassin's Creed game. May be what Sun Tzu was talking about.

Leaked Images Reveal One Of This Fall's Two Assassin's Creed Games

Current numbers on PS4 camera sales. Would explain why it's been nearly as tough to find as the console for the first few months.

PS4 Camera "severely supply constrained" - GameSpot

[Eaglesfan27]

No VR device for PS4 this year...

PS4's Project Morpheus VR device won't launch in 2014, $1000 price point unlikely - GameSpot

[NobodyHere]

I am very tempted to get an Oculus Rift devkit2 when they come out this July, especially if Star Citizen releases something that's playable and entertaining by then.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by NobodyHere

I am very tempted to get an Oculus Rift devkit2 when they come out this July, especially if Star Citizen releases something that's playable and entertaining by then.

It's amazing how different the paths have been for Oculus Rift vs. Morpheus. Oculus has been out in front of the public for some time now as it moves towards a release. I was shocked to see that Sony actually has been developing Morpheus longer than Oculus, yet this is the first time we officially hear about it.

[stevew]

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

No VR device for PS4 this year...

PS4's Project Morpheus VR device won't launch in 2014, $1000 price point unlikely - GameSpot

one thing is for certain, it won't sell for $1000. They can price it like that if they want to.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by stevew

one thing is for certain, it won't sell for $1000. They can price it like that if they want to.

Reports from yesterday said $200-300 was expected retail.