06-06-2006, 09:08 PM | #1701 | |
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Its ok Cronin, I think you helped us alot even without providing a bad guy. You gave us a solid block of people we know are not the henchmen. Good possibility one is the wizard, but its a good start for us. |
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06-06-2006, 09:09 PM | #1702 |
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There's no way I could have set that up. I vote for CW, pretty much sacrificing myself, then the rule changes, and then cronin calls for schmidty to kill CW, then schmitdy kills CW...in the span of five minutes...
Lathum, that was an honest appeal in the case he was actually a good guy that was undecided and unsure. This, in the end, is a team game. Hoops has been right; right now, I'm a vanilla wolf. I suspect much more out of you, except that I don't trust any of cronin's opinions at the moment. |
06-06-2006, 09:10 PM | #1703 |
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By the way
When I found out what the rule was (last vote counts), I had no flipping idea what to do. |
06-06-2006, 09:11 PM | #1704 |
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Assumptions. The way he was talking so strongly about other people before; my own gut instinct; cronin's own instinct. I have no factual evidence for anyone still alive.
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06-06-2006, 09:12 PM | #1705 | |
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Well the only thing when you announced it with 5 min left that crossed my mind was what if the bad guys took advantage of it to try to vote you or hoops off. I ended up mostly just hitting refresh the last minute to see if anyone tried anything. When Saldana unvoted, for a second I thought we were being double crossed. It all ended well not great, but could have been worse I guess. |
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06-06-2006, 09:13 PM | #1706 |
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Cronin, the only thing I would have done differently is target AlanT or Tyrith because there was a chance for them to be either wizard or henchman. With CW there was only a chance of wizard. I thought you played the mechanic well today, all things considered. If you had guessed right you would have put insane pressure on the enemy at the end.
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06-06-2006, 09:13 PM | #1707 |
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06-06-2006, 09:14 PM | #1708 | |
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That would have been too obvious. |
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06-06-2006, 09:15 PM | #1709 | |
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06-06-2006, 09:15 PM | #1710 |
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Reading comments... *still is giggling* oh I love this game..
Sorry guys, I really am enjoying this. Couldn't ask for a better bunch of players.
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06-06-2006, 09:15 PM | #1711 |
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my biggest question now is: wtf happens tomorrow...do we go back to normal rules, or is there some other last second thing again
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06-06-2006, 09:16 PM | #1712 |
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I was going with my gut, and with cronin, who is the player I've trusted the most for the last two days. Unfortunately, I can't make a right move this game, except for jumping in on anxiety yesterday.
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06-06-2006, 09:16 PM | #1713 | |
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anyone else thing fozzie is just making shit up as he goes along, and there are no actual rules to this game. |
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06-06-2006, 09:16 PM | #1714 | |
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06-06-2006, 09:16 PM | #1715 |
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Saldana - I don't know. I *think* that the rules stay the same until we kill another henchman.
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06-06-2006, 09:17 PM | #1716 |
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*maim slaughter kill fozzie*
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06-06-2006, 09:18 PM | #1717 | |
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06-06-2006, 09:19 PM | #1718 | |
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yup. All you guys are the bestest. I want to sit down with everyone who's out and showem what's going on just so I can share the fun, but I think it'd be best to reveal everything at the end.. for two reasons. 1) I know that it's more fun for you guys to be guessing 2) Guard against even inadvertant slips 3) Cuz I want to spring it all on everyone at the end.
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06-06-2006, 09:20 PM | #1719 | |
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06-06-2006, 09:22 PM | #1720 | |
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I vote for a new GM, because this one can't seem to count! :P |
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06-06-2006, 09:24 PM | #1721 | |
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Right the three reasons I want to reveal everything at the end.. 1) I know that it's more fun for you guys to be guessing 2) Guard against even inadvertant slips 3) Cuz I want to spring it all on everyone at the end. 4) Cuz I'm an evil bastard.. Look I'll come in again.. no one expects the spanish inquisition! (thanks Tyrith )
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06-06-2006, 09:24 PM | #1722 |
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Fwiw, I think Tyrith's votes/posts today were the most suspicious.
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06-06-2006, 09:25 PM | #1723 |
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On the topic of heads exploding, if Schmidty is legit then my head is going to explode from three late vote switches to me on Day 2, all from fellow wolves
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06-06-2006, 09:27 PM | #1724 | |
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The only way my posts even make sense is if both me and schmidty are bad. At the time I started the CW side trip the voting rules were still normal. It doesn't make any sense at all for me to run off clucking like an idiot then. |
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06-06-2006, 09:30 PM | #1725 | |
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Well, what I am thinking is that a clever wizard would take a shot at throwing out the last vote. I don't know - if CW had been bad, it would have helped us so much - it would have cleared Schmidty, among other things. |
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06-06-2006, 09:32 PM | #1726 |
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Cronin, for what it is worth I don't think you are a no-brainer decision tonight for the humans. There are other worthwhile targets out there for them, particularly if they feel like you are going to go in the wrong direction looking for the henchman.
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06-06-2006, 09:36 PM | #1727 | |
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Somewhat agree. I'd rather they get me than either you or the wolf boss, though. |
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06-06-2006, 09:37 PM | #1728 |
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Cronin, between last night and today you became convinced of Lathum as a good guy. Was this the result of some other night information - you haven't shared this as of yet and I guess I would prefer to not have it go unrevealed if you do think you are going to be eating a lightning bolt overnight.
Obviously use your best judgement here ... but based on other players' comments I think there are some assumptions already out there whether you choose to comment or not. |
06-06-2006, 09:41 PM | #1729 |
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Well, I have operating under the assumption that the badguys have some sort of counter to my ability - that if they know who I'm going to be sniffing, they can do something about it. So yesterday I named Lathum as my #1 suspect, even though he really wasn't anywhere on my radar. Then last night the wizard compelled me to vote for Lathum. Had I actually sniffed Lathum, and sensed normal wolfishness, this would have been an effective strategy. So I'm assuming that Lathum is on our side. I don't have any hard evidence, but it would be very odd if the wizard compelled me to vote for one of his men.
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06-06-2006, 09:42 PM | #1730 |
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Ok that was just terrible. I am not going to lie. I mean we voted for a guy who is semi-cleared versus either of TWO guys who are NOT cleared. I mean I understand the last minute save Schmidty so why the hell didn't it condemn Tyrith? Was I happy with CW? No. But He was clearly not a henceman, something we knew thanks to cronin. So why bother doing that here?
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06-06-2006, 09:44 PM | #1731 |
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I also think based on the rules that Alan should be highly regarded as suspicious. His role doesn't wash with what we know of the initial and changing rules.
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06-06-2006, 09:47 PM | #1732 | |
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My bad. I just got this feeling that he was likely the wizard; just a combination of stuff. Sorry. |
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06-06-2006, 09:47 PM | #1733 |
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Cronin, back in the Star Wars game I faked compelling a vote on me as a bad guy. I would not discount the possibility of them compelling a vote early in the day, particularly if they had discussed the metric extensively with Fozzie before enacting it.
If they knew that you were going to be able to make other comments that did not gel with your vote, then forcing you early on one of them doesn't sound like the dumbest idea ever. Is this the most likely scenario? Nope, but this isn't enough of a reason for me to elevate him too far up the trust list from where I was already at based on post content, vibe, etc. |
06-06-2006, 09:48 PM | #1734 | |
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I agree. I don't know if the voting rules will be different tomorrow, or normal, but I think known humans should make an effort to get the FIRST vote on Alan, and the LAST vote on Alan. Any non-cleared player making a first or last vote should be regarded skeptically. |
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06-06-2006, 09:49 PM | #1735 |
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What if the vote compulsion was a night action?
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06-06-2006, 09:51 PM | #1736 | |
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I see your point. My comment about Lathum the day before is, to me, what makes that unlikely, though - I as much as announced that I would be sniffing him. |
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06-06-2006, 09:52 PM | #1737 |
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Right now, I'm inclined to agree with the more experienced players here. I'm not going to try to screw with anything. Unless anything comes up, in the middle of the day I'm going to dump my vote on alan and leave it there.
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06-06-2006, 09:54 PM | #1738 | |
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06-06-2006, 09:56 PM | #1740 |
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I guess I understand the desire of some to go for the homerun. It just seems as though we just got doubled up, finding out nothing useful and losing a werewolf, when at least with Schmidty or Tyrith we find something out we really didn't know. If CW had been the wizard, which I admit is frankly what I thought, you all would be heroes.
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06-06-2006, 09:57 PM | #1741 | |
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Well I didn't know which of the non-cleared players to go after. And at this point, it's almost as good odds that one of the players I've sniffed is the wizard, than that one of the non-cleared players is wizard or henchman. |
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06-06-2006, 10:01 PM | #1742 | |
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06-06-2006, 10:10 PM | #1743 |
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Like I said today, feel free to test me on my role reveal. Im ok with that.
Now that said, I feel that I am a better target then people who are cleared as not Henchmen (but possibly the wizard). Scientifically I could be either role, so better chance at getting a good plus there. However I am fully willing to use my role as the situation comes up to prove it. There are also plenty of people who have actually done detremental things for our side without anyone confirming them. Please don't overlook them just for me. Im going to be honest, I dont think we should trust anyone on just reveal alone. Whether its me, Schmidty, Tyrith, or whoever unless we can get backup confirmation. Feel free to look back over what I have tried to do this game and then come up with your conclusions of if you honestly think I have been doing everything I can to mislead you or to actually help our side here. I am being 100% honest about my role, I am a wolf, I am on your team, and killing me won't get us closer to getting a henchman. That said, I never have lived past day 3 in WW games, so this has been alot of fun for me. I'm one of you guys, but I wont vote for myself tommorrow, I will continue to try to pick the person I think is the best chance for us to win. I still think thats Tyrith, and will likely vote for him again tommorrow. |
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Alan, I've been meaning to congratulate you on clearing that hurdle.
For better or for worse ... |
06-06-2006, 10:15 PM | #1745 |
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Hehe, there have been 2 firsts this game hoops. That one, and something else we talked about long ago that has never happened for you and I.
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06-06-2006, 10:20 PM | #1747 |
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I feel a tear coming
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i feel vomit coming
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06-06-2006, 10:23 PM | #1749 |
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anyway folks, Foz Go Sleepy time. will check for any last minute PM's but anything else can wait till morning
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Jesus, you killed me?
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