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Old 06-04-2008, 11:51 AM   #1701
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Does anyone else find it exceptionally odd the dogs would pick someone we haven't cleared?

Yes. Either olie has been converted or they are trying to confuse us.
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Old 06-04-2008, 11:51 AM   #1702
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Oh, I see -- you followed EagleFan. Why?

Because he was and is pinging my wolfdar and is uncleared.
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Old 06-04-2008, 11:52 AM   #1703
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I scanned RendeR, and he came back light. That was all I was told...

Yay - I'm alive!!!!

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Old 06-04-2008, 11:52 AM   #1704
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Because he was and is pinging my wolfdar and is uncleared.

Next time dont announce who you're following before the deadline.
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Old 06-04-2008, 11:53 AM   #1705
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Yes. Either olie has been converted or they are trying to confuse us.

If she was converted, it happened tonight. No way is her first act as a convert to out another dog, with one already dead. And I still kind of doubt that's a power in the game.
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Old 06-04-2008, 11:53 AM   #1706
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And for the record, I've not been converted...I'm still a kitty (insert really bad tasteless joke involving female parts here)

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Old 06-04-2008, 11:53 AM   #1707
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Because he was and is pinging my wolfdar and is uncleared.

That may be, but if the following is a one-time ability, it would have been better to use it when there's only one wolf left. As it is, EF may be a wolf, just not that one who made the kill. I know it's not like you knew that would incapacitate you, but I just feel like it would have been more useful later.
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Old 06-04-2008, 11:53 AM   #1708
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Ill update that list, one sec.
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Old 06-04-2008, 11:54 AM   #1709
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Vote EF

Of the uncleared people, he has, in my opinion, the worst voting record.
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Old 06-04-2008, 11:55 AM   #1710
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I scanned RendeR, and he came back light. That was all I was told...

Yay - I'm alive!!!!


I was really hoping you would have scanned one of me, Dan, hoops, CR, or EF. Oh well.
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Old 06-04-2008, 11:55 AM   #1711
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Ok, I actually believe Render, now, too - I followed him last night, and he was basically behaving like a bodyguard. I think we need to look at:

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Old 06-04-2008, 11:55 AM   #1712
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I guess we're going to be lynching one of the uncleared people today, then.

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1.Hoopsguy
5.Lathum- claimed fool, scanned clear by olie
6.Mcollins- claimes lolcat

7.Passacaglia
8.RendeR - claims BG, scanned clear by olie
9.St. Cronin- claims stray
10.Oliegirl- claims seer

11.Eaglefan
12.the Jackal - claims duke
13.coffee warlord- scanned clear by olie
14.seolian - claims BG, scanned clear by olie
15.dangarion
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Old 06-04-2008, 11:56 AM   #1713
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Jackal, why isn't coffee on that list?
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Old 06-04-2008, 11:57 AM   #1714
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oh, never mind...

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Old 06-04-2008, 11:57 AM   #1715
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Next time dont announce who you're following before the deadline.

As I mentioned in my long post, one of the (sucky) quirks is that I have to post my orders in the thread.

But it doesn't much matter now because I only get one use of each power. I'll probably go ahead and use the bodyguard tonight since I can't be secretive about it anyways. That way the bodyguards can protect each other or set up to rotate protecting Oliegirl.

That is, unless one of them happens to be a chiuaua.
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Old 06-04-2008, 11:58 AM   #1716
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As I mentioned in my long post, one of the (sucky) quirks is that I have to post my orders in the thread.

My bad MC, I missed that.
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Old 06-04-2008, 11:59 AM   #1717
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hoops over EF, cronin?
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Old 06-04-2008, 12:00 PM   #1718
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That may be, but if the following is a one-time ability, it would have been better to use it when there's only one wolf left. As it is, EF may be a wolf, just not that one who made the kill. I know it's not like you knew that would incapacitate you, but I just feel like it would have been more useful later.

I agree now (obviously) and I see how a follow can work like a seer scan later in the game.

Honestly, I was trying to do multiple actions in order to try to get more proof that I am what I say I am. Since (I think) I can only die by lynch I wanted to do whatever necessary to prevent that.
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Old 06-04-2008, 12:03 PM   #1719
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Jackal (and everyone), remember to always use the terms light and dark in reference to scans. If we really have 2 bodyguards and had the opportunity for 2 LolCats, I think it is quite possible there is more than one chiuaua. Or at least 4-5 dogs.

I agree with those looking to find where the balance is for the dogs.
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Old 06-04-2008, 12:04 PM   #1720
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Vote EF

Of the uncleared people, he has, in my opinion, the worst voting record.

How? Pass makes a late change to save a wolf and you think that I have the worst voting record? Interesting...
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Old 06-04-2008, 12:06 PM   #1721
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I was really hoping you would have scanned one of me, Dan, hoops, CR, or EF. Oh well.

I scanned RendeR b/c I figured that he had the most "controversy" around him, and that until that was settled and he was either cleared or not cleared, we really wouldn't be able to go forward. Also, if he came back cleared, that is another bg - and like mccollins suggested, they can set up on "rotation" to guard me so I can continue to scan people.

SL is away from his desk right now, not answering my IM's (not about ww btw), he must be in a meeting or something. I do not know who he bg'd but it wasn't me b/c he guarded me the night before. So one of either mccollins, SL or RendeR needs to be sure to guard me tomorrow night. I'll scan whoever gets the most "requests" - Pass, Hoops, EF, Dangarion. Just let me know who you'd like scanned...ONE request per person please, let's work together and make this simple...
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Old 06-04-2008, 12:07 PM   #1722
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Scan Pass.
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Old 06-04-2008, 12:08 PM   #1723
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olie, I don't think it makes a difference who you scan. Any one of those would be good choices.
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Old 06-04-2008, 12:08 PM   #1724
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About to head to the dentist for a while. Going to make an early vote which CW will probably say is supicious but oh well.

I have a weird feeling about this person anyway.

vote hoops


At least RendeR has been cleared like I've been saying all along.
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Old 06-04-2008, 12:09 PM   #1725
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I made this yesterday when it seemed like a bunch of people were lying (during the double BG reveal). However, I wasn't allowed to post. For your enjoyment only:

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Old 06-04-2008, 12:11 PM   #1726
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Scan me, I want cleared once and for all. I've been followed twice now I believe and have just been sitting here playing wih a ball of yarn and enjoying catnip each time.
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Old 06-04-2008, 12:13 PM   #1727
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Scan me, I want cleared once and for all. I've been followed twice now I believe and have just been sitting here playing wih a ball of yarn and enjoying catnip each time.

drugs are bad, mmkay.
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Old 06-04-2008, 12:14 PM   #1728
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I can't be secretive about this so I'm just going to go ahead and get this out of the way:

I gotz yer back Olie

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Old 06-04-2008, 12:16 PM   #1729
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Maybe we do really have two bodyguards, and that's why the wolves went after CR, because he was pretty much assured of not being protected, and they've had two no night kills already.
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Old 06-04-2008, 12:16 PM   #1730
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(From my initial discussion with claphamsa, the instruction doesn't have to be bolded and I don't have to have a picture, but it has to be in lolspeak and he wants to be entertained.)
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Old 06-04-2008, 12:17 PM   #1731
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(From my initial discussion with claphamsa, the instruction doesn't have to be bolded and I don't have to have a picture, but it has to be in lolspeak and he wants to be entertained.)

That definitely sounds like clap.
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Old 06-04-2008, 12:34 PM   #1732
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Well I'd still like to hear back from cronin on why he wants to vote hoops over the others, and there's certainly no rush on my vote placement, so I'll hold off a bit.
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Old 06-04-2008, 12:35 PM   #1733
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sea, render, i wouldn't announce who you protected last night. if one of you isnt a bodyguard, then it'd be a lie. if you are both bodyguards, then don't telegraph to the wolves who you can't protect the next night phase. either way i don't think it's necessary info to reveal.
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Old 06-04-2008, 12:36 PM   #1734
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unless of course you feel the need to coordinate or some such, but i guess that's up to you guys.
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Old 06-04-2008, 12:36 PM   #1735
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I don't have a real good reason. He's been mildly pinging my wolfdar since day 1.
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Old 06-04-2008, 12:46 PM   #1736
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I think one of the bodyguards should volunteer to protect oliegirl, but the other one should not say who he is protecting.
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Old 06-04-2008, 12:58 PM   #1737
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How? Pass makes a late change to save a wolf and you think that I have the worst voting record? Interesting...

Pass is right up there with you, but I just can't see a real wolf being that blatant on that vote. It could be a case of hiding in plain sight, I suppose, but that's awfully dicey. You're the last of the people on the opposite block of PB lynching vote still alive/unpsuedocleared. That's where my thinking goes.
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Old 06-04-2008, 12:59 PM   #1738
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Dola.

So we have...3 freakin' bodyguards now? Even a 1 time bodyguard + 2 others is outrageous.
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Old 06-04-2008, 01:08 PM   #1739
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That definitely sounds like clap.


so sue me

Im dissapointed by the downturn in lolpostings!
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Old 06-04-2008, 01:15 PM   #1740
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If I'm the guy get voting off today, that is fine. Just keep grinding away at the uncleared folks and we'll have a kitteh victory party.
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Old 06-04-2008, 01:16 PM   #1741
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I think one of the bodyguards should volunteer to protect oliegirl, but the other one should not say who he is protecting.

I'm protecting her tonight (post 1728), but I agree with this for tomorrow night.
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Old 06-04-2008, 02:36 PM   #1742
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anyone see any more i missed?
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Old 06-04-2008, 02:42 PM   #1743
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Yes. Either olie has been converted or they are trying to confuse us.

Yeah that's the only thing I can make sense of this. I mean why would the wolves waste their kill on someone that the cats aren't sure of.

I mean look at Olie's voting record... Something doesn't add up here...
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Old 06-04-2008, 02:47 PM   #1744
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Go ahead and scan me olie... I have nothing to hide.
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Old 06-04-2008, 02:54 PM   #1745
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I mean look at Olie's voting record... Something doesn't add up here...

What part of Olie's voting record doesn't add up?
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Old 06-04-2008, 03:01 PM   #1746
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What part of Olie's voting record doesn't add up?

That is what I was going to ask!
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Old 06-04-2008, 03:03 PM   #1747
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What part of Olie's voting record doesn't add up?

I've been tallying up some things and was looking at it this morning before coming into work, I don't have access to it right now, maybe someone else has her voting tallys that they could post?

I just was reading through rules and looking at old games, and got to start thinking about the possibility that she might have converted. Maybe I'm wrong, but something just seems fishy. But I'm new so I might not know what I'm talking about...

I can't get my tally sheet till I'm back from work, much later today
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Old 06-04-2008, 03:08 PM   #1748
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I haven't looked at Oliegirl's voting record because no one has countered her claim as the seer - seer is in the game, it is always a good guy role, pretty much end of story for me.

I haven't seen anything in the rules that suggests a conversion so I've discarded that as a possibility. Of course, I had pretty much disregarded two bodyguards in conjunction with another role that can scan + protect as well until Olie cleared them both.

I guess I'm not sure where to go in terms of "thinking outside the box" with this game because there have been things that just normally aren't part of our standard WW ruleset. Which is fine, but I'm not sure whether to apply logic or imagination to my choices. I've been opting for logic, but the wolf kills/attacks seem to be suggesting I'm looking at the game differently than they are. Because I don't see how they could think the moves they are making are remotely optimal.
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Old 06-04-2008, 03:15 PM   #1749
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VOTE DANGARION

I'm going with the "inexperienced wolf" theory here, coupled with a lack of a claimed role. And, finally, questioning the seer.

I'm fine if you guys decide to take me out today. But I'm not going to self-vote and I'm still going to try and add value until I'm thrown into the dunk tank with the LOLrus.
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Old 06-04-2008, 03:20 PM   #1750
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