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DeToxRox · 05-26-2008, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Well he's got the look, a decent catchphrase (corny but it should work okay), the question is whether he can bring the goods (and whether they'll let him).

He had a lot of heat on him, I was impressed, though it was mostly from his old man. As long as Ted Sr is there though, I think he'll do enough to stay over.

JonInMiddleGA · 05-26-2008, 11:04 PM

The WWE gets viewers the old fashioned way ... they buy them

(Vince just announced a one million dollar giveaway for Raw)

Flasch186 · 05-26-2008, 11:07 PM

JonInMiddleGA · 05-29-2008, 09:38 PM

Is there much that could scream "second rate" than having an American Idol loser be a focal point of your show?

wade moore · 05-29-2008, 09:46 PM

Hrmm.. been awhile since I watched wrasslin' and I've never watched more than about 15 minutes of TNA - gonna flip between this and NBA.

JonInMiddleGA · 05-29-2008, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by wade moore

Hrmm.. been awhile since I watched wrasslin' and I've never watched more than about 15 minutes of TNA - gonna flip between this and NBA.

Tonight probably ain't the night.

Although things are increasingly spotty, tonight is really just not much to write home about. Judging from the spoilers, next week should be quite a bit better.

Flasch186 · 05-29-2008, 10:00 PM

they could give away 999,999$?

JonInMiddleGA · 05-29-2008, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Flasch186

they could give away 999,999$?

Remember the $1 million challenge from December '06? No?

That's okay, you didn't miss much

Flasch186 · 05-29-2008, 10:36 PM

I actually do remember the Million Dollar Man's challenge....I thought it was fun. He was one of my favorites and actually think that, as usual, they blew the son's entry. They shouldve had the son come out in a suit and buy a wrestler or something. Instead he comes out and challenges....a whole tag-team? I swear I think that they have no clue what theyre doing sometimes.

Flasch186 · 05-29-2008, 10:37 PM

oh, and Tomko needs a tan.

JonInMiddleGA · 05-29-2008, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Flasch186

I actually do remember the Million Dollar Man's challenge....

No, not that one.

I'm talking about the very forgettable (artists formerly known as) New Age Outlaws "challenge" to Vince back at the end of 2006, offering him one million dollars to let them face the (then recently) reunited DX.

jbergey22 · 06-01-2008, 10:54 PM

***Major Spoiler***

Undertaker is done

I can not believe it

DeToxRox · 06-01-2008, 11:43 PM

Randy Orton broke his collarbone tonight on a sick bump to the outside.

jbergey22 · 06-01-2008, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Ronnie Dobbs2

I read yesterday he's taking some time off, so it's not a surprise. He'll be back. He seems like he'll wrestle until he's no longer able to physically do it.

I did read some of this after the match... I just wonder how they are going to swerve around this. They already said he cant come back under a different brand.

Ryche · 06-02-2008, 12:17 AM

I would think they can say Vicky didn't have the authority to ban him from Raw since she's the Smackdown GM.

duckman · 06-02-2008, 01:12 PM

They're teasing an Undertaker retirement. They moved his profile to the Alumni section of wwe.com.

JonInMiddleGA · 06-08-2008, 08:25 PM

I know it's kind of strange to say but , nice work by referee Rudy Charles in the opening match of Slammiversary tonight. Good effort.

And the return of Abyss in the first half hour.

edit to add: And I think I've got a new wrestling annoyance - changing a character's name after one appearance. Tonight we discover that Mickie Knuckles is now known as "Moose". Earlier today I saw where Matt Sydal (who worked under that name on ECW last week) is now "Evan Bourne". I get changing charcters, name ownership, etc., but ... why not assign the name before their debut instead of changing it less than a week later? Either they're stupid or they think we are.

double edit: Not much fancy about the 3-on-3 knockouts match but some pretty good stuff in terms of old school psychology. While "The Beautiful People" aren't the greatest workers in the world (although better, I believe, than their characters force them to play at times), it was nice to see a tag team pick a body part & work on it consistently. Very 70's flashback stuff, but good to see, especially with a women's match.

JonInMiddleGA · 06-08-2008, 10:43 PM

Really dead crowd so far for the KOTM main event. And the intensity just doesn't seem to be there from the workers either. A good dive or two but on the whole it's just been slow to this point.

DeToxRox · 06-09-2008, 09:15 PM

Unbelievable. Vince McMahon got RICKROLL'D live on RAW.

DeToxRox · 06-09-2008, 10:14 PM

And we come full circle as Jericho completes a heel turn throwing HBK through his JeriTron 5000. That ruled.

JonInMiddleGA · 06-09-2008, 10:18 PM

Lawler re: Umaga & Snitsky "That's a tag team uglier than Hulk Hogan's divorce"

DeToxRox · 06-16-2008, 10:13 PM

Ric Flair is back on Raw

JonInMiddleGA · 06-16-2008, 10:13 PM

And the desperation to improve the ratings continues. After the disappointing effect of the cash giveaway last week, Ric Flair just came out to interrupt a Jericho promo.

edit to add: O-kay. That was ... odd.

For those who aren't watching, after a 3+ minute commercial break to give him time to get to the ring & let the ovation subside a bit, Flair had a conniption & challenged Jericho to a fight in the parking lot. They make a loooong trek through the back, Flair disappears through an exit door, Jericho opens a different door & stops to react to someone unseen. And HHH walks through the door to challenge Jericho. They yang yang at each other a bit and Jericho slowly walks away as we cut to another commercial.

Flasch186 · 06-16-2008, 10:25 PM

they just need to hit the reset button again and let someone else do their writing who, Ill say it again, understands the concept of character arcing and the limits to these idiots acting. Mickie James acting is an abommonation and if they dont teach the editors to cut away before the 3 second stare off into space the "actors" are forced to do, im going to just die....

BTW Ive stopped watching so I am sure that im not unique and their are many others who've turned it off in the hopes that in 6 months or so it's dynamically better.

JonInMiddleGA · 06-16-2008, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Flasch186

Mickie James acting is an abommonation

Bad thing about that is that you could just let her wrestle & she'd be fine.

With Phoenix & Lea already up, Neidhart in the wings, it wouldn't take much for them to be able to actually shift from the eye candy to women who can actual work in the ring more than a little bit. And if they did make that transition sooner rather than later, they'd just about kill the one thing TNA has working for them at the moment.

JonInMiddleGA · 06-16-2008, 11:18 PM

Sheesh, I thought some of the other stuff was random.

But Lance Cade interfering in the main? Involved in at least a mini-angle with Jericho, Cena, and Trips? WTF?

saldana · 06-17-2008, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Sheesh, I thought some of the other stuff was random.

But Lance Cade interfering in the main? Involved in at least a mini-angle with Jericho, Cena, and Trips? WTF?

i was trying to figure out if i had missed something by taking a couple months off...how the hell did cade fit in with y2j?

Neon_Chaos · 06-17-2008, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by saldana

i was trying to figure out if i had missed something by taking a couple months off...how the hell did cade fit in with y2j?

...you have to watch next week to find out...

MacroGuru · 06-17-2008, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by saldana

i was trying to figure out if i had missed something by taking a couple months off...how the hell did cade fit in with y2j?

Well, the funny part of it, they were in SLC and Y2J was there telling them that he was their savior, it's a good thing the wrestling demographic is of a different footprint than the normal population there, it could have gotten ugly...

But I was scratching my head as well with Cade coming in.

DeToxRox · 06-23-2008, 11:05 PM

LOL. Vince McMahon killed himself off again.

DeToxRox · 06-23-2008, 11:07 PM

This is absolutely hilarious.

duckman · 06-23-2008, 11:08 PM

JR to Smackdown? WTF?

JonInMiddleGA · 06-23-2008, 11:08 PM

WTF was that all about?
Vince amnesia angle coming up?
Time off to recover?

Nice touch having Trips lead the charge to "rescue" Vince and, VKM calling him Paul was pretty good too.

DeToxRox · 06-23-2008, 11:08 PM

Vince isn't dead but he does seem to be crippled now.

JonInMiddleGA · 06-23-2008, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by duckman

JR to Smackdown? WTF?

Most of the draft was pretty WTF I think.

HHH & JR to Smackdown? Punk gone from ECW?

DeToxRox · 06-23-2008, 11:17 PM

Punk to Raw made sense. HHH to SD I am shocked about. I bet JR gets "traded" to Raw. HHH will stay on SD until the hype from their debut on MyNetworkTV is off.

Jas_lov · 06-23-2008, 11:20 PM

They don't want Punk to waste the MITB on the ECW title so they move him to Raw. It's brilliant. The JR-Cole switch is stupid and unnecessary. HHH to SD is a surprise and I guess you can't accuse them of being predictable. Vince almost dying was an excellent way to end the show. It officially puts an end to the million dollar giveaways.

JonInMiddleGA · 06-23-2008, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Jas_lov

They don't want Punk to waste the MITB on the ECW title so they move him to Raw.

But they also moved the ECW title to Raw.

DeToxRox · 06-23-2008, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

But they also moved the ECW title to Raw.

Well, Kane is going to lose to Show Sunday. And if not, remember ECW tapings are moving to Mondays now. So expect a "talent agreement" like SD & ECW had.

SirFozzie · 06-23-2008, 11:37 PM

Live, from whatever arena they were in, it's WWE's Stupid Vince Tricks!

molson · 06-23-2008, 11:43 PM

I've found that it's very entertaining to read the RAW thoughts here before I actually watch the show.

Especially Detox's quote, "Vince isn't dead but he does seem to be crippled now." I don't know if the actual show can live up to that.

molson · 06-24-2008, 12:02 AM

I haven't watched the whole thing yet, but someday, I'd like to see a guy with a PPV match coming up lose on TV. The match outcomes are so predictable tonight it's just annoying.

saldana · 06-24-2008, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by molson

I haven't watched the whole thing yet, but someday, I'd like to see a guy with a PPV match coming up lose on TV. The match outcomes are so predictable tonight it's just annoying.

i agree...there wasnt one match all night that i didnt know who was going to win before the bell rang, but the worst was the battle royal, seeing as the dimwit announcers were babbling the whole time about Raw having already had 5 draft picks and smackdown only having had 3...anyone that didnt know before it started that smackdown was going to win the 2 picks must never have watched wrestling before.

and hasnt batista been drafted everytime they have done this....wow....totally random.

i was surprised to see HHH go to SD, as soon as I saw batista to raw, you had to know a major name would go back, but i thought it was going to be Cena.

DeToxRox · 06-24-2008, 07:43 AM

I thought Tazz was hilarious because he was legit pissed at ECW being treated like Heat. Also JR was livid you could tell. I expect he will be traded back to Raw as Vince is having fun with him.

finketr · 06-24-2008, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by MacroGuru

Well, the funny part of it, they were in SLC and Y2J was there telling them that he was their savior, it's a good thing the wrestling demographic is of a different footprint than the normal population there, it could have gotten ugly...

But I was scratching my head as well with Cade coming in.

so getting caught up.. and this is where the neighborhood lost power for an hour so i missed the rest of that night.

duckman · 06-24-2008, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Ross

I am not happy about this surprise development.

I also contemplated calling it a career Monday night and not going to Houston to tape SD.

After speaking with my wife and thinking on this matter until 6 a.m. Tuesday morning, I have decided to do the right thing for the fans who care and the talent who care and begin my new assignment.

It has been explained to me that the WWE's Smackdown tenure on My Network is a high priority within the corporation. Allegedly, my presence is needed in that effort.

hxxp://www.jrsbarbq.com/2008/06/24/jr%e2%80%99s-post-draft-thoughts/

MacroGuru · 06-24-2008, 02:35 PM

We have been watching RAW religiously since moving here in April, my wife likes to oogle the bodies of some of the guys and laugh at the acting, me just because I started watching it again on the road to pass the dead time away. I am hooked on the story lines and angles on such.

But last night was pitiful as far as the matches went. ECW is definitely the bastard child and was treated as such last night.

We liked HHH and seeing him go was upsetting, especially to a night we won't watch it. Although Mysterio is going to be good on RAW.

The hinged lighting prop falling on Vince was the one thing that I couldn't stand. That and its the easy way out to stop giving money away without pissing off the fans.

duckman · 06-24-2008, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Ronnie Dobbs2

Is that a worked shoot or a shot work?

Rumor was he was genuinely upset about the move because he was not told before the show that he would be moved.

Maple Leafs · 06-24-2008, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by duckman

Rumor was he was genuinely upset about the move because he was not told before the show that he would be moved.

Apparently none of the talent knows they're going to be drafted until its announced. They get a group of them together and say "one of you is about to be drafted, here's what you'll do if you hear your name" and that's as much notice as they have (apart from HHH, of course).

I was really surprised to hear that.

JonInMiddleGA · 06-24-2008, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Ronnie Dobbs2

Is that a worked shoot or a shot work?

Although there's always a certain amount of respect for kayfabe given on JR's blog, I believe the reputation is that he shoots fairly straight there & I don't consciously remember him doing much in the way of working the marks in that venue. There's usually some stuff where he doesn't say what's on his mind fully but off hand I really don't recall him really toeing the company line there either, he'll just avoid commenting on something or be brief if he's not happy.

'Course, it is wrestling, so anything is possible.

05-26-2008, 11:04 PM	#1802
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	The WWE gets viewers the old fashioned way ... they buy them (Vince just announced a one million dollar giveaway for Raw) __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

05-26-2008, 11:07 PM	#1803
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05-29-2008, 09:38 PM	#1804
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Is there much that could scream "second rate" than having an American Idol loser be a focal point of your show? __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

05-29-2008, 10:00 PM	#1807
Flasch186 Coordinator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Jacksonville, FL	they could give away 999,999$? __________________ Jacksonville-florida-homes-for-sale Putting a New Spin on Real Estate! ----------------------------------------------------------- Commissioner of the USFL USFL

05-29-2008, 10:36 PM	#1809
Flasch186 Coordinator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Jacksonville, FL	I actually do remember the Million Dollar Man's challenge....I thought it was fun. He was one of my favorites and actually think that, as usual, they blew the son's entry. They shouldve had the son come out in a suit and buy a wrestler or something. Instead he comes out and challenges....a whole tag-team? I swear I think that they have no clue what theyre doing sometimes. __________________ Jacksonville-florida-homes-for-sale Putting a New Spin on Real Estate! ----------------------------------------------------------- Commissioner of the USFL USFL

05-29-2008, 10:37 PM	#1810
Flasch186 Coordinator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Jacksonville, FL	oh, and Tomko needs a tan. __________________ Jacksonville-florida-homes-for-sale Putting a New Spin on Real Estate! ----------------------------------------------------------- Commissioner of the USFL USFL

06-01-2008, 10:54 PM	#1812
jbergey22 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Minnesota	*Major Spoiler* Undertaker is done I can not believe it Last edited by jbergey22 : 06-01-2008 at 10:55 PM.

06-01-2008, 11:43 PM	#1813
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Randy Orton broke his collarbone tonight on a sick bump to the outside.

06-02-2008, 12:17 AM	#1815
Ryche College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Highlands Ranch, CO, USA	I would think they can say Vicky didn't have the authority to ban him from Raw since she's the Smackdown GM. __________________ Some knots are better left untied.

06-08-2008, 08:25 PM	#1817
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	I know it's kind of strange to say but , nice work by referee Rudy Charles in the opening match of Slammiversary tonight. Good effort. And the return of Abyss in the first half hour. edit to add: And I think I've got a new wrestling annoyance - changing a character's name after one appearance. Tonight we discover that Mickie Knuckles is now known as "Moose". Earlier today I saw where Matt Sydal (who worked under that name on ECW last week) is now "Evan Bourne". I get changing charcters, name ownership, etc., but ... why not assign the name before their debut instead of changing it less than a week later? Either they're stupid or they think we are. double edit: Not much fancy about the 3-on-3 knockouts match but some pretty good stuff in terms of old school psychology. While "The Beautiful People" aren't the greatest workers in the world (although better, I believe, than their characters force them to play at times), it was nice to see a tag team pick a body part & work on it consistently. Very 70's flashback stuff, but good to see, especially with a women's match. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis Last edited by JonInMiddleGA : 06-08-2008 at 08:47 PM.

06-08-2008, 10:43 PM	#1818
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Really dead crowd so far for the KOTM main event. And the intensity just doesn't seem to be there from the workers either. A good dive or two but on the whole it's just been slow to this point. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

06-09-2008, 09:15 PM	#1819
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Unbelievable. Vince McMahon got RICKROLL'D live on RAW. Last edited by DeToxRox : 06-09-2008 at 09:18 PM.

06-09-2008, 10:14 PM	#1820
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	And we come full circle as Jericho completes a heel turn throwing HBK through his JeriTron 5000. That ruled.

06-09-2008, 10:18 PM	#1821
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Lawler re: Umaga & Snitsky "That's a tag team uglier than Hulk Hogan's divorce" __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

06-16-2008, 10:13 PM	#1822
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Ric Flair is back on Raw

06-16-2008, 10:13 PM	#1823
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	And the desperation to improve the ratings continues. After the disappointing effect of the cash giveaway last week, Ric Flair just came out to interrupt a Jericho promo. edit to add: O-kay. That was ... odd. For those who aren't watching, after a 3+ minute commercial break to give him time to get to the ring & let the ovation subside a bit, Flair had a conniption & challenged Jericho to a fight in the parking lot. They make a loooong trek through the back, Flair disappears through an exit door, Jericho opens a different door & stops to react to someone unseen. And HHH walks through the door to challenge Jericho. They yang yang at each other a bit and Jericho slowly walks away as we cut to another commercial. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis Last edited by JonInMiddleGA : 06-16-2008 at 10:22 PM.

06-16-2008, 10:25 PM	#1824
Flasch186 Coordinator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Jacksonville, FL	they just need to hit the reset button again and let someone else do their writing who, Ill say it again, understands the concept of character arcing and the limits to these idiots acting. Mickie James acting is an abommonation and if they dont teach the editors to cut away before the 3 second stare off into space the "actors" are forced to do, im going to just die.... BTW Ive stopped watching so I am sure that im not unique and their are many others who've turned it off in the hopes that in 6 months or so it's dynamically better. __________________ Jacksonville-florida-homes-for-sale Putting a New Spin on Real Estate! ----------------------------------------------------------- Commissioner of the USFL USFL

06-16-2008, 11:18 PM	#1826
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Sheesh, I thought some of the other stuff was random. But Lance Cade interfering in the main? Involved in at least a mini-angle with Jericho, Cena, and Trips? WTF? __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

06-23-2008, 11:05 PM	#1830
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	LOL. Vince McMahon killed himself off again. Last edited by DeToxRox : 06-23-2008 at 11:06 PM.

06-23-2008, 11:07 PM	#1831
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	This is absolutely hilarious.

06-23-2008, 11:08 PM	#1833
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	WTF was that all about? Vince amnesia angle coming up? Time off to recover? Nice touch having Trips lead the charge to "rescue" Vince and, VKM calling him Paul was pretty good too. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

06-23-2008, 11:08 PM	#1834
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Vince isn't dead but he does seem to be crippled now.

06-23-2008, 11:17 PM	#1836
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Punk to Raw made sense. HHH to SD I am shocked about. I bet JR gets "traded" to Raw. HHH will stay on SD until the hype from their debut on MyNetworkTV is off.

06-23-2008, 11:20 PM	#1837
Jas_lov College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	They don't want Punk to waste the MITB on the ECW title so they move him to Raw. It's brilliant. The JR-Cole switch is stupid and unnecessary. HHH to SD is a surprise and I guess you can't accuse them of being predictable. Vince almost dying was an excellent way to end the show. It officially puts an end to the million dollar giveaways.

06-23-2008, 11:37 PM	#1840
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	Live, from whatever arena they were in, it's WWE's Stupid Vince Tricks! __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

06-23-2008, 11:43 PM	#1841
molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	I've found that it's very entertaining to read the RAW thoughts here before I actually watch the show. Especially Detox's quote, "Vince isn't dead but he does seem to be crippled now." I don't know if the actual show can live up to that.

06-24-2008, 12:02 AM	#1842
molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	I haven't watched the whole thing yet, but someday, I'd like to see a guy with a PPV match coming up lose on TV. The match outcomes are so predictable tonight it's just annoying.

06-24-2008, 07:43 AM	#1844
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	I thought Tazz was hilarious because he was legit pissed at ECW being treated like Heat. Also JR was livid you could tell. I expect he will be traded back to Raw as Vince is having fun with him.

06-24-2008, 02:35 PM	#1847
MacroGuru Coordinator Join Date: May 2003 Location: Utah	We have been watching RAW religiously since moving here in April, my wife likes to oogle the bodies of some of the guys and laugh at the acting, me just because I started watching it again on the road to pass the dead time away. I am hooked on the story lines and angles on such. But last night was pitiful as far as the matches went. ECW is definitely the bastard child and was treated as such last night. We liked HHH and seeing him go was upsetting, especially to a night we won't watch it. Although Mysterio is going to be good on RAW. The hinged lighting prop falling on Vince was the one thing that I couldn't stand. That and its the easy way out to stop giving money away without pissing off the fans. __________________ "forgetting what is in the past, I strive for the future"

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