Yet another school shooting.

[Atocep]

Patriots (fleeing the country), Family Values (bailing on their kid), Law and Order (breaking multiple laws), Immigration (trying to illegally cross into Canada)

Am I missing any?

[miami_fan]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

They pulled $4000 from an ATM early in the morning,

What ATM is letting you take out $4000?!

[Edward64]

Originally Posted by miami_fan

What ATM is letting you take out $4000?!

That is curious to me also, my limit is like $400. But found this, so guess it is possible.

A specific answer to this question will depend on who you bank with. But, generally, ATM cash withdrawal limits can range from $300 to $5,000 per day. Individual banks and credit unions set their own limits. Your personal ATM withdrawal limit also may depend on the type of accounts you have and your banking history.

[JPhillips]

lol

Crumbley's parents tried to get to Canada, but they were denied because they aren't vaccinated.

[larrymcg421]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

lol

Crumbley's parents tried to get to Canada, but they were denied because they aren't vaccinated.

Well if they got the vaccine, then the government could track them and would've found them much sooner.

[whomario]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

lol

Crumbley's parents tried to get to Canada, but they were denied because they aren't vaccinated.

They just earned themselves even more donations for their legal defense by checking that box.

[PilotMan]

When will the United states start realizing that the incredible number of guns in the USA and the ease at which they are obtained is a huge part of the destabilizing factor of neighboring countries? Where do you think Mexican drug gangs get their armaments from?

[albionmoonlight]

Originally Posted by PilotMan

When will the United states start realizing that the incredible number of guns in the USA and the ease at which they are obtained is a huge part of the destabilizing factor of neighboring countries? Where do you think Mexican drug gangs get their armaments from?

We know. We've just decided that's not enough of a reason to restrict gun sales.

[albionmoonlight]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

They pulled $4000 from an ATM early in the morning, failed to show up to an arraignment, didn't stay in contact with authorities, turned off their phones, ditched their car, and were caught hiding out in a basement of a building just a short distance from the Canadian border.

This couple has gotten an insane amount of leeway. We don't have to pretend this was some misunderstanding. They were fleeing and the police were right about this. If anything, without the police coming out and saying they were on the run, their car wouldn't have been spotted and they'd be somewhere in Canada right now.

Having learned these new facts, I now agree that they are not in the box of people who showed up at the city courthouse when they were supposed to show up at the county courthouse.

[miami_fan]

https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/06/us/mi...day/index.html

Yeah I don't see this one flying either. I think that they should have checked his backpack given the information that they had. I have seen school administrations do so my whole life for much much less. I just don't think that a jury would blame the school for not checking his backpack.

[Edward64]

Originally Posted by miami_fan

https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/06/us/mi...day/index.html

Yeah I don't see this one flying either. I think that they should have checked his backpack given the information that they had. I have seen school administrations do so my whole life for much much less. I just don't think that a jury would blame the school for not checking his backpack.

Yeah, that's kinda weird. Agree no jury would blame the school.

A Crumbley attorney said the gun was locked. But haven't read anything to corroborate. That is an interesting angle - if locked, probably not in a gun safe but maybe drawer? Is that considered locked for the purposes of negligence defense? It probably is but more to come.

[BYU 14]

Originally Posted by Edward64

Yeah, that's kinda weird. Agree no jury would blame the school.

A Crumbley attorney said the gun was locked. But haven't read anything to corroborate. That is an interesting angle - if locked, probably not in a gun safe but maybe drawer? Is that considered locked for the purposes of negligence defense? It probably is but more to come.

It could have been a trigger lock, which in reality does no good if the person that shouldn't have the gun unsupervised, has the key.

[miami_fan]

Originally Posted by BYU 14

It could have been a trigger lock, which in reality does no good if the person that shouldn't have the gun unsupervised, has the key.

I was thinking it was locked in the drawer with the key hanging on the wall next to the drawer.

[miami_fan]

I have been hearing a lot about and from the the lawyer(s) for the parents and nothing about the lawyer for the kid. So I looked it up and he has a court appointed attorney. While his parents are being represented by the team that represented Larry Nassir.

That is an interesting parental choice but I respect their right to make such a choice.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Originally Posted by miami_fan

I have been hearing a lot about and from the the lawyer(s) for the parents and nothing about the lawyer for the kid. So I looked it up and he has a court appointed attorney. While his parents are being represented by the team that represented Larry Nassir.

That is an interesting parental choice but I respect their right to make such a choice.

I think this is more about the lawyers than the parents.

The lawyers have nothing to gain by representing the murderer. Other than the fact that he's being tried as an adult, there is nothing interesting in his case that will elevate their profile in certain circles.

That said, the charges against the parents are quite aggressive and will raise some pretty novel arguments of law and could draw the attraction of Second Amendment folks and others. I doubt the parents will be paying any of these attorney's legal fees. These attorneys just want their name in the press and to become (in)famous. The parents' case could do this, the murderer's not so much.

[NobodyHere]

If I was lawyer working for the parents I would definitely want to be paid in advance.

[PilotMan]

Originally Posted by NobodyHere

If I was lawyer working for the parents I would definitely want to be paid in advance.

You might have thought that Rudy would have thought the same thing considering the track record of the guy he was working for and yet...

[GrantDawg]

The shooters parents trial is definitely going to be an interesting one to watch. As much as I hope they will be convicted, I believe it is going to be difficult.

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[Honolulu_Blue]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

The shooters parents trial is definitely going to be an interesting one to watch. As much as I hope they will be convicted, I believe it is going to be difficult.

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Agreed on both account. I think it’s worth trying, because it’s the only way to try to move the needle on this stuff.

As for dress, I’m sure there will be certain folks or groups - gun advocate types - who will be willing to give money for attorneys’ fees.

[NobodyHere]

So this a video of the Oxford shooter from a year ago



I have to think there's going to be some form of insanity defense because something was not right with that kid.

[RainMaker]

Another mass shooter in Colorado. That state seems to have their share of nuts. Targeted some tattoo parlors and was a white supremacist.

[RainMaker]

Attention Required! | Cloudflare

[PilotMan]

Alt-Right = American Extremist Terrorist

[RainMaker]

He named his real life victims in a book he wrote that was sold on Amazon. Had made tons of death threats on social media and those sites did nothing. Appears cops were called a few times and they blew it off. Well done everyone!

Denver gunman's novels named real-life victims, described similar attacks

[QuikSand]

#Sacramento

no need to worry, standard array of "thought and prayers" plus "screaming into the void" will suffice

a community in shock, and at least a half dozen families into deep mourning, but we'll soldier on as always

[JPhillips]

I don't mean to downplay anything, but it's fascinating that the shooting in Tel Aviv is getting a bunch of media attention after the Sacramento shooting received so little.

[RainMaker]

Mass shooting in Brooklyn subway. Really weird story. By some miracle, no one died.

Brooklyn subway shooting: Live updates of NYC attack

[GrantDawg]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

Mass shooting in Brooklyn subway. Really weird story. By some miracle, no one died.

Brooklyn subway shooting: Live updates of NYC attack

And the shooter escaped. Crazy.

[RainMaker]

Harrowing photos from the aftermath of today’s subway shooting, shared exclusively with the Daily News by Ray Chiodini, who was on the train during the attack. pic.twitter.com/R4k71WwcKD

— Clayton Guse (@ClaytonGuse) April 12, 2022

[NobodyHere]

Well there has been a person of interest named:

Brooklyn subway shooting: Police identify Frank R. James of Philadelphia as person of interest

Seem like a typical hateful mentally-ill shooter.

[RainMaker]

This has a little more on the shooter. Left his credit card on the scene and thankfully botched what could have been a massacre. Still on the run apparently.

'They Made Me More Dangerous': Frank James Blames NY Mayor for Breakdown

[NobodyHere]

Looks like they got him.

The suspect in the subway shooting has been arrested, officials say

[RainMaker]

I feel like taking 24 hours to arrest a mentally-ill senior citizen who committed a mass shooting in a busy part of New York in broad daylight where cops are stationed is a pretty enormous failure by the NYPD. $10 billion a year just doesn't go as far as it used to.

[NobodyHere]

Well that was nice of Frank

NYC subway shooting suspect called tip line on himself, sources say

[RainMaker]

I think he assumed that he would be caught or killed right away. When nothing happened to him, he kind of just wandered around for a day and didn't know what to do. Apparently he wasn't really hiding either, people said he was at a popular restaurant during the day.

[NobodyHere]

Columbia, South Carolina mall shooting: 12 injured, three people arrested after shooting at mall | CNN

Some kind of gang shootout maybe?

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by NobodyHere

Columbia, South Carolina mall shooting: 12 injured, three people arrested after shooting at mall | CNN

Some kind of gang shootout maybe?

It sounds like it to me. And nothing says a Happy Easter like a gang shooting

[RainMaker]

I am hoping these mass shooters aim have gotten worse. That's two with no deaths.

[QuikSand]

On all the tiresome multi-casualty shooting stories, that basically don't even land anymore... there is a cool-headed, rational person inside me who genuinely doesn't really believe that the various incremental policies we toss around would do much to stop all this carnage.

And then...

*PHOTOS* Multiple firearms and a large quantity of ammo were recovered inside the fifth floor apartment where the suspect was found deceased. pic.twitter.com/3mR2uoqFTM

— DC Police Department (@DCPoliceDept) April 23, 2022

...just a good American, just out there exercising his ever so important rights. I don't know what the perfect policy response is, but doing nothing doesn't seem to be doing a good job at all. I hate this paralysis, as the victim count balloons out of control with nobody new caring, globally.

[AlexB]

The individual gun-related deaths of children can be written off as tragedies independent of the wider world.

Will guns becoming the largest killer of children & teenagers in the US focus the collective mind differently?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-61192975

I think we know the answer

[miami_fan]

America in 2022. U9 baseball practice includes hitting drills, pitching drills, fielding drills and... active shooter drills? JFC we are broken.

VIDEO: Shots ring out during youth baseball game in North Charleston | WBTW

[NobodyHere]

Originally Posted by AlexB

The individual gun-related deaths of children can be written off as tragedies independent of the wider world.

Will guns becoming the largest killer of children & teenagers in the US focus the collective mind differently?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-61192975

I think we know the answer

Well the answer is the give the kids more gunz so they can defend themselves.

It's so obvious.

[RainMaker]

Terrorist attack at a Buffalo supermarket. Guy posted a manifesto to 4chan and livestreamed it on Twitch. At least 8 desd.

[RainMaker]

Now up to 10 dead.

[PilotMan]

18 years old

[Vegas Vic]

After careful analysis, I've come to the conclusion that I'm far more likely to be killed in a mass shooting by a white male than I am by a foreign terrorist.

[Edward64]

Security guard hit the guy but he had on bullet proof vest. What a freaking asshole. Go volunteer in Ukraine and at least do some good playing live Call of Duty.

[BYU 14]

I REALLY want to how it is so easy to get tactical gear like this, I mean seriously.

When I take my guns to the range to shoot do I need a bullet proof tac vest to protect me from the targets attacking me.....no.

I don't hunt, but if I did would I need a tac vest to fend off killer squirrels......no

If, god forbid someone broke into my house in the middle of the night, would I first run to my closet to grab a tac vest, fill it up with extra mags, slip on my night vision goggles, then grab my gun? No, I would grab my fucking gun, tell my wife to get into the closet and call 911, while I waited from cover, hoping I would not need to take another humans life.

So someone please help me, how the hell does the second amendment cover the right to buy full military gear, including bullet proof vests, silencers and all the other bullshit these sociopaths always seem to have?

And oh yeah, this was on twitter and not only remained active, but was never caught so authorities could be notified, but Elon Musk wants to allow more of this shit sop more unhinged people can share these unhinged conspiracies?

[BYU 14]

Originally Posted by Vegas Vic

After careful analysis, I've come to the conclusion that I'm far more likely to be killed in a mass shooting by a white male than I am by a foreign terrorist.

And it isn't even remotely close

[GrantDawg]

Sorry, I don't follow any Nazi's. Have they started blaming BLM yet? Or are they claiming the whole thing is a false flag?

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