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Old 10-13-2006, 05:55 PM   #1851
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Agreed. Doesn't anybody have the power to break somebody out of jail?

Not anymore...at least that we know of. GE did have that power and is now dead
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Old 10-13-2006, 05:55 PM   #1852
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Ok I have a question. Hoops has said that there has been a conversion. I think that is the common perception too. Hoops seems to think that Bribery is the way that one is converted. If these statements are true, which role could have manipulated money vices? Do we trust those people in those roles? It is at least worth examining them again.


Who's the banker? Or is that Hoops?
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Old 10-13-2006, 05:57 PM   #1853
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yea i forgot who the banker is
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Old 10-13-2006, 05:58 PM   #1854
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Saldana is the banker

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Old 10-13-2006, 05:59 PM   #1855
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Saldana is the Banker amd SnvLs is the Miner
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Old 10-13-2006, 06:02 PM   #1856
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I don't know that either is a cowboy, but if Hoops info is correct, we might want to back through their posts to see what we find.
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Old 10-13-2006, 06:02 PM   #1857
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Ok I have a question. Hoops has said that there has been a conversion. I think that is the common perception too. Hoops seems to think that Bribery is the way that one is converted. If these statements are true, which role could have manipulated money vices? Do we trust those people in those roles? It is at least worth examining them again.

I'm out in a couple minutes, but a quick glance through the roles suggest that these ones might be the best ones for a money vice:

Banker
Pickpocket
Brothel Girl
Miner
Retired Captain (that was Gram, wasn't it?)
Baker

Those are the ones that directly or indirectly mention money.
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Old 10-13-2006, 06:03 PM   #1858
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vote lynch lonestargirl
elect chubby


my lynch vote is pretty easy for me, considering she is still saying i belong in jail....lets rewind 2 or 3 days, back to the good ol' days when i was sherrif AND SENT IN ARREST ORDERS FOR ST CRONIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...if Golden Eagle had done what i dared him to do and had freed lathum instead of himself, cronin would have been in jail TWO DAYS AGO!!!!!!!!!!!!

and ever since then, I have been saying nothing but the fact that i thought Cronin was a bad guy (or perhaps you didnt see me calling him a cowboy about 15 times) but yeah...i should be in jail.....

btw, Glengoyne...above applies to you too, since you are still preaching the "jail saldana" gospel
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Old 10-13-2006, 06:04 PM   #1859
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Saldana is the banker

Jail Saldana

see my above post...god, do you people even read what i post, or just come up with crap on your own
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Old 10-13-2006, 06:11 PM   #1860
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I've heard from enough people who want to play with the option #1 for the weekend. Tonight's deadline is just under 2 hours. Night 5 deadline will be Sunday morning at 9:00am EST (36 hours) and then Day 6 deadline will be 9:00pm EST on monday (36 hours)

Current totals:

Election votes: (8 votes needed for new sheriff)

(2) Swaggs - Racer (1648), Glengoyne (1659)
(1) Bulletsponge - Barkeep (1783)
(7) Chubby - Sndvls (1790), Bulletsponge (1792), Spleen (1795), path (1815), Swaggs (1828), hoops (1835), saldana (1858)

Lynch votes: (8 votes needed for lynch)

(0) Chief Rum -

(4) Lonestargirl - Lathum (1642), Anxiety (1794), path (1847), saldana (1858)
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Old 10-13-2006, 06:12 PM   #1861
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Saldana, I understand you have been calling for Cronin's head for a while. I am just trying to put 2 pieces of info together to see where it leads. Of course your role is going to come up in any discussion of the money vice and who can use that advice to thier advantage. right now I would be more likely to Jail SnDvls than you, but that at least puts a question in my head. I think it is a reasonable one.
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Old 10-13-2006, 06:13 PM   #1862
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9. my other jail order last night, if GE had done what logically would have made the most sense, was for st cronin...i dont trust him at all and think he should go with CR to the slammer tonight...he has been sowing distrust for no reason the whole game...he is accusing everyone with no evidence and just seems to me to want to cause as many problems as possible

[quote=saldana;1271393]elect ntndeacon

vote no lynch

jail chief rum
jail st cronin


these are both posts by me on Wednesday....no had said a damn thing about St Cronin up to this point...people were including him in the CoT's earlier in the day and asking for his opinion for who should be sheriff....meanwhile, i wanted to put him in jail



yeah, arrest me and put me out of my freaking misery.
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Old 10-13-2006, 06:14 PM   #1863
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AlanT, i dont want to edit, but i clipped my tag in the above post....those votes are from wednesday and arent for today.
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Old 10-13-2006, 06:16 PM   #1864
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Saldana, I understand you have been calling for Cronin's head for a while. I am just trying to put 2 pieces of info together to see where it leads. Of course your role is going to come up in any discussion of the money vice and who can use that advice to thier advantage. right now I would be more likely to Jail SnDvls than you, but that at least puts a question in my head. I think it is a reasonable one.

as far as me bribing people...not likely...i have enough money that i dont need the cowboys or to take over this town,...not to mention if they take it over, i doubt they will need a bank.
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Old 10-13-2006, 06:19 PM   #1865
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as i was looking for my posts, i noted that cronin made it a point on that same day to try and put some public distance between himself and hoops, and himself and LSG....i have also thought hoops has been not his usually self this game, and think he needs to be more closely examined.
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Old 10-13-2006, 06:19 PM   #1866
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Old 10-13-2006, 06:25 PM   #1867
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as far as me bribing people...not likely...i have enough money that i dont need the cowboys or to take over this town,...not to mention if they take it over, i doubt they will need a bank.

Maybe the ability to work the money vice does not lay with the banker. It could lie elsewhere. but if hoops is genuine about that bribery being the mechanism for conversion, we need to find out who CAN manipulate that particular vise.
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Old 10-13-2006, 06:26 PM   #1868
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Unelect Bullet
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Old 10-13-2006, 06:40 PM   #1869
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Unelect Swaggs
Elect Chubby


I'm willing to back off of Saldana a bit, but I still don't think he has answered for jailing Swaggs, and essentially choosing to go an additional night without a lynch.

I'm sticking with a no lynch for tonight.

I still think we should release CR, rather than LSG.

As for jailing candidates. I'm okay with any of the monied players. It would give us some new blood to evaluate.

I keep wavering on Hoops, Path, and Spleen.

How cleared is Lathum? not suggesting jail for him, I just can't recall right now.

I'm out for the duration. I just got a call that my father was taken to the hospital.
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Old 10-13-2006, 06:42 PM   #1870
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Unelect Swaggs
Elect Chubby


I'm willing to back off of Saldana a bit, but I still don't think he has answered for jailing Swaggs, and essentially choosing to go an additional night without a lynch.

I'm sticking with a no lynch for tonight.

I still think we should release CR, rather than LSG.

As for jailing candidates. I'm okay with any of the monied players. It would give us some new blood to evaluate.

I keep wavering on Hoops, Path, and Spleen.

How cleared is Lathum? not suggesting jail for him, I just can't recall right now.

I'm out for the duration. I just got a call that my father was taken to the hospital.

hope everything is ok with your father
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Old 10-13-2006, 06:46 PM   #1871
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I second that Glen. ihope your father is ok.
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Old 10-13-2006, 06:46 PM   #1872
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So it looks like chubby is in unless two people back off. Doesn't chubby work weird hours in retail? I hope that wont effect his play.
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Old 10-13-2006, 06:49 PM   #1873
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Old 10-13-2006, 06:49 PM   #1874
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and in keeping with my own advice...
Free CR
Jail SnDvls

I say Jail SnDvls to target the money connection that hoops threw out there the other day.
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Old 10-13-2006, 06:52 PM   #1875
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and for those that haven't done so. Please put your ideas about Jailing out there.the Sherriff can use those lists....actually we all can

more votes hopefully make it clearer who is and isn't a cowboy.
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Old 10-13-2006, 06:56 PM   #1876
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oh and though I have not said so yet...

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Old 10-13-2006, 07:35 PM   #1877
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Yeah, Chief Rum is the whore.

Hey, be nice now. I am a brothel girl. Whores are sluts who wil do anything for money. I only consort with civilized cowboys.
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Old 10-13-2006, 07:45 PM   #1878
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Hey, be nice now. I am a brothel girl. Whores are sluts who wil do anything for money. I only consort with civilized cowboys.

Cowboys! i knew you were one of them!!!


Lynch Chief Rum
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Old 10-13-2006, 07:57 PM   #1879
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Cowboys! i knew you were one of them!!!


Lynch Chief Rum

Heh heh we're all cowboys, lol. I meant townsfolk. Sheesh, you go killin' people and think you know everything!
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Old 10-13-2006, 07:57 PM   #1880
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No Lynch

Nothing else to add.
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Old 10-13-2006, 08:00 PM   #1881
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What seems to be a routine occurance, once again no prisoner meets the people's desire for a lynching. The townspeople's taste for blood evidentally satisfied earlier in the day with the showdown. For the 3rd time in the last 5 days we now have a new sheriff however. People's cries that Chubby is a hero led the push for him to be elected. As the votes become final, ntndeacon walks into the local townhall with Chubby in order to hand over the sheriff keys, badge and gun. Everyone seems in fairly good spirits after the death finally of a cowboy.


Election votes: (8 votes needed for new sheriff)

(1) Swaggs - Racer (1648)
(9) Chubby - Sndvls (1790), Bulletsponge (1792), Spleen (1795), path (1815), Swaggs (1828), hoops (1835), saldana (1858), barkeep (1868), Glengoyne (1869)

Lynch votes: (8 votes needed for lynch)

(1) Chief Rum - Bulletsponge (1878)

(4) Lonestargirl - Lathum (1642), Anxiety (1794), path (1847), saldana (1858)


We are now in Night 5. The Deadline is extended and will be Sunday morning at 9:00am EST. Please get in NIght order PMs by then.
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Old 10-13-2006, 08:10 PM   #1882
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Sunday morning? Bah i hate weekends.
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Old 10-13-2006, 08:33 PM   #1883
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Heh heh we're all cowboys, lol. I meant townsfolk. Sheesh, you go killin' people and think you know everything!

no, i now have a taste for blood
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Old 10-13-2006, 10:30 PM   #1884
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Caught up.

I'm sheriff huh? Off to read my sheriff PM
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Old 10-13-2006, 10:48 PM   #1885
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Ok so I want some feedback on who we should jail tonight.
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Old 10-14-2006, 12:00 AM   #1886
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I'm back. Thanks for the concern for my family. My father was admitted, and is going to have a procedure tomorrow to determine the problem. It is sort of up in the air, but he and my mother are in reasonably good spirits.


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Ok so I want some feedback on who we should jail tonight.

I think we have some time on this, so lets take our time. I think we should dig up the voting patterns that we have, and see if anything can be gleaned. I don't think I've voted to lynch anyone yet...at least not that I didn't withdraw. I think I'll be reasonably happy with anyone with a similar record, but I'm saying that without any research being done.

I've been fundamentally unhappy with the selection of jailees so far. I think Day one may have been the best of our rather weak efforts. So to everyone who is around this weekend...We need, badly, to make this one count.
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Old 10-14-2006, 02:27 AM   #1887
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lynch votes: (11 votes needed for lynch)

(0) lathum -
(12) goldeneagle - hoopsguy (481), grammaticus (500), Barkeep (521), Ntndeacon (522), Racer (576), Sndvls (587), path (590), Spleen (604), lathum (655), Fouts (661), path (688), Saldana (721)


Night 2 begins now. Deadline for night 2 actions is Wednesday morning 9:00am EST. Please submit all PMs to me before that time.

Who didn't vote for GE?
LSG,Anxiety,Cronin,Chief Rum,Glengoyne




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Lynch votes: (10 votes needed for lynch)

(0) Swaggs -
(6) Chief Rum - Fouts (1280), Hoopsguy (1314), Lonestargirl (1332), Sndvls (1335), St.cronin (1386), Lathum (1417)
(12) Grammaticus - Swaggs (1277), Fouts (1280), Chubby (1287), Path (1313), Hoopsguy (1314), Lonestargirl (1332), Spleen (1333), Sndvls (1335), Racer (1344), Ntndeacon (1397), Lathum (1403), Bulletsponge (1453)


We are now in Night 4. Deadline is Friday 9:00am EsT. Please submit night actions to me before that time.

Who didn't vote for Gram?
Anxiety,Cronin, Barkeep,Chief Rum, Glengoyne

Who didn't vote for CR the first night.
Spleen,Path, Gram,Anxiety,NtNDeacon, Swaggs, Barkeep, Saldana, Racer, Chubby,Bullet, Glengoyne



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Lynch votes: (8 votes needed for lynch)

(1) Chief Rum - Bulletsponge (1878)

(4) Lonestargirl - Lathum (1642), Anxiety (1794), path (1847), saldana (1858)


We are now in Night 5. The Deadline is extended and will be Sunday morning at 9:00am EST. Please get in NIght order PMs by then.

Who didn't vote for LSG?
Spleen,NtN, Swaggs,Barkeep, Rum, snDvls, Racer,Hoops, Chubby, bulletsponge, Glengoyne


Voted for Both GE and Gram:
hoopsguy, Racer, Sndvls, path, Spleen, lathum, Fouts,Ntndeacon

Who voted for neither GE or Gram:
Anxiety,Cronin,Chief Rum, Glengoyne



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Old 10-14-2006, 02:40 AM   #1888
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Anxiety has voted to lynch only LSG.

Chubby has only voted to lynch Gram.

Glengoyne, Barkeep, and Chief Rum haven't voted to lynch anyone.

Lathum has voted to lynch everyone who has received more than one vote. He didn't vote to lynch CR tonight.
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Old 10-14-2006, 03:05 AM   #1889
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Oops Swaggs is also on the list of folks with only one lynch vote(for Gram)

I'm looking more favorably on Anxiety and Barkeep based on voting records. I did just note that I said I'd look favorably on people with a similar voting record...and Cronin appeared on my list. I guess he was a wily cowboy.

I'm thinking my trust/suspicion tree looks about like this.
------Trust-------
--complete trust--
ME
--Steady trust--
Swaggs - Bullet - Chubby
--Reasonable trust--
Chief Rum -
--Favorably to Trust--
Barkeep - Anxiety

-----People I'm suspicious of-------

--Reason to suspect--
Lathum(voting record): I gotta go back and look at how he was cleared. He might need more time in the hot seat.
Saldana: I'm still harping about my man Swaggs' arrest, but this is fading.

--simply suspicious of --
Hoops,Path, and Racer. The problem here is that this is based entirely on gut feeling as I've read their posts. I've wavered in and out on all of them.


-----People I don't have a good handle on at all----
Spleen,LSG,NTN, and SnDvls.


For Jail I'll be pleased with pretty much anyone that falls below my "suspicion" line.
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Old 10-14-2006, 05:45 AM   #1890
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My jail votes....

JAIL Barkeep
UNJAIL Chief Rum


My availability will be limited this weekend. I turn 30 tomorrow and there is a big party planned for this evening. So, I'll be busy with all of that.
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Old 10-14-2006, 07:46 AM   #1891
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Anxiety has voted to lynch only LSG.

Chubby has only voted to lynch Gram.

Glengoyne, Barkeep, and Chief Rum haven't voted to lynch anyone.

Lathum has voted to lynch everyone who has received more than one vote. He didn't vote to lynch CR tonight.
I voted to lynch GE I believe.
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Old 10-14-2006, 08:30 AM   #1892
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Just one quick game note. I made an error in the number of votes needed both yesterday and the day before. I keep reading tired people as dead on my spreadsheet (woops!) both cases it did not impact the game as it would not have changed the result.

Yesterday's vote to lynch or elect was 9, not 8. Chubby still received the 9 necessary votes
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Old 10-14-2006, 10:13 AM   #1893
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I voted to lynch GE I believe.

Good Note. I'll actually be happy if that is the only mistake I made last night. I couldn't sleep, and just started posting. Sorry for the clutter, and I hope the handy info is helpful, even if my analysis and review are spotty at best.

I'm off to the hospital, and won't be back until tonight.

Play Nice.
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Old 10-14-2006, 11:08 AM   #1894
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I'm currently leaning towards releasing CR and placing someone else in jail.
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Old 10-14-2006, 11:14 AM   #1895
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Glen,

Hope the procedure goes well for your dad, he'll be in my thoughts.

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Old 10-14-2006, 12:58 PM   #1896
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I'd say jail either hoops or lathum
both aren't sitting well with me and my gut.
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Old 10-14-2006, 01:26 PM   #1897
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I'm going to be out most of the afternoon with in-laws visiting. I would like to think I can be of more use to the village outside of jail rather than in jail.

I'm planning to leave the house tonight - Chubby (or anyone else with an applicable role) can follow me if they are interested in doing so. Perhaps that would help gain a little more trust in this game.

If there is a true seer role in this game and they have not scanned me by now I would really appreciate if they would do so.

Will be around to post more tonight.
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Old 10-14-2006, 01:40 PM   #1898
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i dont trust lathum, and severla others. i suggest you jail Lathum
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Old 10-14-2006, 01:48 PM   #1899
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i dont trust lathum, and severla others. i suggest you jail Lathum

care to expand on that? Anxiety, ntn and saldana have all given reasons why I should be trusted. If I recall that is more people then have vouched for you.
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Old 10-14-2006, 02:43 PM   #1900
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Barkeep is just who I trust the most right now, but if people think somebody else is more deserving, I will get behind that. I think we need a new sherriff and I think it should be either Barkeep, Lathum, ntndeacon, or Anxiety.

ok, so I was going back and reading some of St. Cronins old posts and I came across this. About 5 posts earlier St.Cronin voted to elect barkeep then he posts this.

Myself, ntn, and anxiety have already been linked at this point but why is barkeep in this list? I think the cowboys were making an attempt to gat one of their own in office, it would also explain the early push by barkeep for the role reveals.

I say jail barkeep or one of the quieter people like racer.
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