Learned League

[albionmoonlight]

Originally Posted by cuervo72

This has sparked some debate on the LL forum, fwiw, specifically regarding Jokers (the high card) being bowers, and if they ARE if that disqualifies 500 on the basis of "names of the two highest cards."

When I played as a kid, we didn't call the Jokers Bowers.

But according to wikipedia, some people do call it the best bower.

So wouldn't that make the three highest cards bowers? And, if so, wouldn't (to be semantic about it) the two highest cards be bowers?

[cuervo72]

*chuckles*

Yes, I suppose the two (but not exactly two) would still be.

The level of parsing/nitpicking on the part of some llamas is...well, I guess it's to be expected, but still head-shaking at times. Like the one who argued that basically, there are an infinite number of answers besides "Mason-Dixon" because all sorts of things cross/run along the same parallel. Which...yeah.

[albionmoonlight]

What are three dividing lines that have never been in my kitchen?

[NobodyHere]

Real Euchre players don't use Jokers.

[Young Drachma]

Are there any folks needing a referral for next season? LMK. Might have a spare.

[QuikSand]

Pretty sure that was my first ever 9(5)...

[britrock88]

Originally Posted by Young Drachma

Are there any folks needing a referral for next season? LMK. Might have a spare.

I could...

[albionmoonlight]

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

I had my best season ever, finishing 4th in C.

I consider myself a high D / low C player, so this really was a great season for me. I fully expect to go back to low C next season.

And I got relegated back to D :-)

Now I know how the Jaguars felt reaching the AFC Championship that one season. Lightning in a bottle.

[cuervo72]

albion: if you're not too attached to your branch, YD has looked into it and apparently you can be grafted onto another one (he somehow got separated from us, then we moved into Hinterland leaving him behind in Delta but he's petitioned to switch).

(I'm sure Ravenna is nice though. )

[Butter]

15th in C, my defense sucked this year and had a negative point differential. But not a bad season overall

[ntndeacon]

I have a spare referral as well

[ntndeacon]

I got 6th in B.

According to the luck post in LL I was very unlucky this season. maybe some folks in A will decide not to come back. But it looks like another season in B for me.

[albionmoonlight]

Originally Posted by cuervo72

albion: if you're not too attached to your branch, YD has looked into it and apparently you can be grafted onto another one (he somehow got separated from us, then we moved into Hinterland leaving him behind in Delta but he's petitioned to switch).

(I'm sure Ravenna is nice though. )

My buddy in in Ravenna D with me, so I think I'll stay there for now. Thanks for offering, though. If things change, I'll look into it for sure.

[Young Drachma]

5th in my A rundle my highest ever and a last day chance at finishing 3rd. I'll take it.

[ntndeacon]

Pretty much all of the minileagues look intriguing! I've signed up for all I can!

[Butter]

Finished 2nd in the Perfect Game one day. Got all 12 questions, but botched the money selections. ARGH

[Butter]

Got my second 9(6) in School of Rock mini-league in 4 days. If I don't win the group, something's wrong.

Who knew knowing the lyrics to "She Bop" would ever come in handy?

[cuervo72]

Butter on a roll!

[Butter]

Yeah, it would be nice to keep this up in the regular league, but my knowledge skews heavily towards sports and popular culture and not so much things like Art and Classical Music or history.

[ntndeacon]

Good luck to everyone for the new league that starts tomorrow!

I just missed being in A. I was 6th and the 5th place guy went up.

[britrock88]

Placed into Rundle R Hinterland Div 2. Good luck, all!

[albionmoonlight]

3 and 3 this morning.

[britrock88]

Does anyone have any suggestions for defense in a rookie rundle? I couldn't think of anything better than by assigning points roughly in line with the difficulty I had with each question.

[cuervo72]

That's pretty much it. You can't really defend your opponents in R (maybe by the end of the season) so you just have to defend the questions.

[Young Drachma]

Originally Posted by britrock88

Does anyone have any suggestions for defense in a rookie rundle? I couldn't think of anything better than by assigning points roughly in line with the difficulty I had with each question.

What I always tell people is don't play defense based on what you would get wrong, score based on someone relatively well-informed but not too much. It's a crapshoot in rookie rundle, but...I figured it out about halfway through my rookie season, you just have to defend against layups and ensure that whenever they get a 3 pointer, it's well earned.

After a few rounds, you'll get a feel for it based on the types of questions and can adapt your strategy based on how you defend early. I've coached a few people to solid rookie defense seasons with those tenets, so...it's not all made up. if you're bad at math, don't assume everyone is. If you're not a history buff, doesn't mean someone else isn't. Try to measure the degree of difficulty of the question for anyone -- like is it a Jeopardy question? Or a bar trivia stumper? Somewhere in-between? That's how I score questions, even in A rundle, not totally based on stats because people will surprise you sometimes.

[ntndeacon]

I had my first bagel on Friday 0(0) ! I was not getting the close ones!

[Radii]

Originally Posted by Young Drachma

What I always tell people is don't play defense based on what you would get wrong, score based on someone relatively well-informed but not too much. It's a crapshoot in rookie rundle, but...I figured it out about halfway through my rookie season, you just have to defend against layups and ensure that whenever they get a 3 pointer, it's well earned.

Definitely agree with this, speaking for myself as someone who has too many categories where I am just completely clueless, my biggest failing in defense is when I am unable to recognize that a question is decently well known by folks at a general level - maybe not a layup (but sometimes, yes), but you know an 8 foot jumper in a category where I can't even make the layups. If I ever take this serious enough to start studying, that's the thing that would immediately let me promote from D to C, is bumping up my minimal level of knowledge in art, food/drink, opera, theater and the like to recognize when something might be more common knowledge, even if I can't pull the answer myself, to defend it better.

[QuikSand]

One thing I love/hate about LL is the frequency with which an answer does not come to me right away, but there's at least some shot of "noodling" it, or just sitting back in hopes of the answer coming to me. I'm fairly knowledgeable with the sort of things trivia contests are built around, so I have a solid base... this sort of thing is basically my strongest suit.

For me, the toughest is the time I spend on a question where I have some tiny inkling that it might come to me, but it doesn't. Today, I gave up in agony on one specific question, only to see the correct answer upon submission and growl out a "oh hell I totally knew that." Happens fairly often. But the, maybe, two minutes of time spent putting down my phone, closing my eyes, and trying to summon that answer... it felt like an eternity.

[cuervo72]

That's my struggle - being patient enough to sit on a question. I am not good at it (I GOTTA KNOW THE ANSWER NAO!!), but I am getting somewhat better.

[cuervo72]

Originally Posted by Young Drachma

What I always tell people is don't play defense based on what you would get wrong, score based on someone relatively well-informed but not too much.

YMMV

[QuikSand]

Originally Posted by cuervo72

That's my struggle - being patient enough to sit on a question. I am not good at it (I GOTTA KNOW THE ANSWER NAO!!), but I am getting somewhat better.

Yup. Yesterday it was "pipette" a term I 100% know, but since it didn't come to me in 90 seconds of agony, I just clicked and then smacked myself. Still beat tho.

[QuikSand]

...and today I got my other major personal LL weakness exposed... I entered in what I thought was a correct answer, then when I saw it was incorrect I went back and actually read the question in detail enough to see that my submission could not have been correct (and had I done so initially, i likely would have gotten the right answer)... so, 4/6 today should have been a 5.

[cuervo72]

I have been better with RTFQ errors. Still by no means perfect, but I think improving. Reading a couple thousand back questions may be helping with parsing the writing style, but also just going nice and slow.

[britrock88]

Originally Posted by cuervo72

YMMV

Lol. Had an exciting 8(5)-7(3) bout myself.

5-0-0 so far in the R rundle, but definitely luckier than the guy who's 4-0-1, yesterday's poor defense notwithstanding.

[cuervo72]

Nice start!!

[britrock88]

Ah, today's the bad day I was due for. Overthought a couple and underthought another.

[ntndeacon]

Midseason classic is always fun!

[britrock88]

Originally Posted by ntndeacon

Midseason classic is always fun!

How'd it go? I've only spotted YD and cuervo on the site so far.

I was happy enough to go 7/12 and play the money well to end in the 80th percentile.

[cuervo72]

Ah - I've found you and added you to my tracker. Strong rookie season! Took me ages just to get above .600 QPct.

(I was 8/12 on the Classic and went out on a limb on two wrong money answers, so didn't place too well. YD OTOH...)

[Umbrella]

If anyone has an open invite, I'm interested. Although going through the questions, I'm pretty certain I'll be bottom third.

[Butter]

If I hadn't taken two forfeits, I'd be in contention for promotion. Alas

[QuikSand]

Two forfeits here too, rotten season, I'm fighting against relegation from B.

[ntndeacon]

Originally Posted by britrock88

How'd it go? I've only spotted YD and cuervo on the site so far.

I was happy enough to go 7/12 and play the money well to end in the 80th percentile.

I got 8 and ended up in the 88% which was top of B Hinterland.

[Radii]

Originally Posted by britrock88

How'd it go? I've only spotted YD and cuervo on the site so far.

I was happy enough to go 7/12 and play the money well to end in the 80th percentile.

I'm LL Profile: DixonR21 if you're talkign about finding FOFC users accounts in general

[Radii]

Originally Posted by Umbrella

If anyone has an open invite, I'm interested. Although going through the questions, I'm pretty certain I'll be bottom third.

I can refer you. The next season won't start until November, so you'll have a long wait, but I think you'll just need to pay attention to your e-mail once it gets closer. Need first name, last name, e-mail address to refer - feel free to PM that info to me if you'd prefer

[Butter]

Would've gotten promoted without the 2 forfeits. Had an extremely favorable schedule that probably won't be replicated again

[QuikSand]

And my happy ending is that I avoided relegation from B, after a mediocre effort this season with my own two Fs. Meh.

I don't have the backbone to really put some shoulder into this, like my friend just west of here, but... well, it would arguably be a better use of the channel of time I am spending on my fifth FOF team, or my current Madden-trading efforts, or whatnot.

[albionmoonlight]

Promoted again. My status as High D/Low C is reaffirmed.

[ntndeacon]

I also promoted again. It helped to get a Eggroll on the last day! So it is back to A with me. I look forward to facing of the couple already there!.

[britrock88]

I had 2nd in the R rundle clinched over the weekend, so coasted this week. The B rundle may be a wake-up call.