NFL Week 8 Thread - Page 4

Rizon · 10-31-2011, 11:31 AM

Oh those crazy Dolphins.

Last win: December 12, 2010.

Julio Riddols · 10-31-2011, 11:35 AM

Teams get away from the run way too fast these days. If I had a back averaging 9 yards a pop, I would run him regardless of whether we were up 7 or down 21. It slows the game down, gives the defense time to rest a bit, and at 9 yards a pop is more effective than the passing game usually would be. Giving Murray 8 carries last night when he was performing that well should result in the loss of a job for someone.

JediKooter · 10-31-2011, 11:50 AM

Chargers/Chiefs at Arrowhead...
Chargers always have a hard time winning in Kansas City - Check
Chargers have zero wins against an opponent with a .500 record better - Check
Chargers still coached by Norv Turner - Check

Chargers 17 - Chiefs 21

JonInMiddleGA · 10-31-2011, 12:22 PM

larrymcg421 · 10-31-2011, 12:50 PM

That's worse than razorblades.

tucker rocky · 10-31-2011, 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tucker rocky

A fumbled ball can be batted forward by a defensive player?

Here's the answer from NFL.com.

link:
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d...headline_stack

Curious as to why a batted, fumbled, ball is non-reviewable.

Even if NE got the ball back, it would still take a miracle play to win.

tucker rocky · 10-31-2011, 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Aylmar · 10-31-2011, 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tucker rocky

Here's the answer from NFL.com.

link:
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d...headline_stack

Curious as to why a batted, fumbled, ball is non-reviewable.

Even if NE got the ball back, it would still take a miracle play to win.

I think it comes down to the fact that a penalty wasn't called on the field and you can't throw a flag as a result of a review. The fumble was clear, the non-possession inside the endzone became clear on review, but there is no option for assessing a penalty once under the hood.

stevew · 10-31-2011, 06:14 PM

I wonder why they didn't declare it Pittsburgh ball on the spot where Troy touched it. Seems like a more correct call than a safety anyways.

Aylmar · 10-31-2011, 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevew

I wonder why they didn't declare it Pittsburgh ball on the spot where Troy touched it. Seems like a more correct call than a safety anyways.

The Steelers never recovered the fumble in the field of play. How can you give them the ball when they never established possession?

JediKooter · 10-31-2011, 07:20 PM

Ed Hochuli would have given possession to the Broncos, where they would then score a last second touchdown and two point conversion...

Matthean · 10-31-2011, 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JediKooter

Chargers/Chiefs at Arrowhead...
Chargers always have a hard time winning in Kansas City - Check
Chargers have zero wins against an opponent with a .500 record better - Check
Chargers still coached by Norv Turner - Check

Chargers 17 - Chiefs 21

Wins by the Chiefs: Minn(2-6), Indy(0-8), and Oakland, who was so QB deprived they threw 6 picks in the game. The Minn and Indy wins were by a combined 9 points. Against the only two teams they have played with a pulse outscored them 89-10. Good luck find a less impressive .500 team.

JediKooter · 10-31-2011, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthean

Wins by the Chiefs: Minn(2-6), Indy(0-8), and Oakland, who was so QB deprived they threw 6 picks in the game. The Minn and Indy wins were by a combined 9 points. Against the only two teams they have played with a pulse outscored them 89-10. Good luck find a less impressive .500 team.

Oh man, I know and I keep telling myself that, BUT (and it's a big one), the Chargers no matter how good of a team they have and the Chiefs, no matter how bad of a team they have...it's always been difficult for the Chargers to beat them in Kansas City. The Chargers barely beat them this year in game 3 and had the Chargers not shut out the Chiefs in the first half, they very likely would have lost the game. Plus, I just have zero confidence in Norv Turner's ability or willingness to finish a team and put the game away. Teams always seem to be able to creep back late in games against the Chargers since he's been their head coach.

bhlloy · 10-31-2011, 08:00 PM

I feel exactly the same way about this Chargers team. For whatever reason, I think they are going to lose to divisional opponents while Norv Turner is the head coach. Against a big out of division opponent I know they'll put in a good performance and against a mediocre division opponent I know they are going to do the opposite.

Almost to the point where I'd be stunned to see a Chargers win tonight.

JediKooter · 10-31-2011, 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bhlloy

I feel exactly the same way about this Chargers team. For whatever reason, I think they are going to lose to divisional opponents while Norv Turner is the head coach. Against a big out of division opponent I know they'll put in a good performance and against a mediocre division opponent I know they are going to do the opposite.

Almost to the point where I'd be stunned to see a Chargers win tonight.

Yup exactly. They barely beat a lousy lousy Dolphins team, a lousy Vikings team and almost lost to Tebow and the Broncos. And really, I place a lot of the blame on Turner's shoulders. He doesn't put teams away, period. At least Marty wasn't afraid to keep piling it on. I wouldn't trust Turner to run a marathon...he'd quit at the 23rd mile.

ColtCrazy · 10-31-2011, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

Really didn't like this game at all. Team played like dogshit.

Looking like another wasted year of Brady's career due to a shitty defense.

Welcome to the Peyton Manning era in Indy! As someone that sat through some over-hyped Colts' defenses, even I must say I'm shocked they haven't done more in New England to give Brady a good defense to help them out. Or a running game for that matter.

ColtCrazy · 10-31-2011, 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Saw that in the Indy Star today...even I had to laugh. Wonder if the old story of putting 2 tickets on your car windshield will result in 4 being there when you return?

jbergey22 · 10-31-2011, 09:12 PM

Wow Rivers. Forcing things tonight?

jbergey22 · 10-31-2011, 09:14 PM

What a poor call. What was the dback suppose to do there?

RainMaker · 10-31-2011, 09:14 PM

15 yard penalty for playing defense.

jbergey22 · 10-31-2011, 10:05 PM

Refs have ruined this game.

Id like to know how a ball can go 7-8 yards forward without it being a forward pass and the defense not hitting it from behind? That was obviously an incomplete pass. His arm obviously was moving it forward for it to land 7-8 yards forward. If not it would have landed behind him or went straight up in the air.

Then they turn around and call some make up PI on Gates.

Just call the game right and you dont need makeup calls. Just cant stand when refs take over games.

bhlloy · 10-31-2011, 10:09 PM

Shitty play on the field. Shitty refs. Story of the 2011 NFL season. At least the players were locked out of training camp, what's the ref's excuse?

Jas_lov · 10-31-2011, 10:12 PM

Both teams have been screwed by the refs. The Chiefs had two replay challenges go against them. Haley's challenge on the fumble looked like a lock to be overturned and it stood for whatever reason. Gruden is a joke and just needs to go back to coaching, he's not good in the booth.

Ksyrup · 10-31-2011, 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bhlloy

Shitty play on the field. Shitty refs. Story of the 2011 NFL season.

Yep.

kingfc22 · 10-31-2011, 10:40 PM

I can't recall watching Rivers throw so many ducks in a single game.

SunDevil · 10-31-2011, 10:54 PM

Rivers is injured. There has to be something wrong with his arm.

NorvTurnerOverdrive · 10-31-2011, 11:09 PM

chargers have 2 6'5 wr's and a terrible red zone offense. it make no sense.

kingfc22 · 10-31-2011, 11:35 PM

I'd say no good from the live look.

Scarecrow · 10-31-2011, 11:43 PM

McNeil has more yards in penalties than the Chiefs have rushing.

stevew · 10-31-2011, 11:44 PM

Is there a net KR stat(like the punters one?). For returns that don't make the 20.

kingfc22 · 10-31-2011, 11:53 PM

Wow...

sabotai · 10-31-2011, 11:54 PM

Wow....

Danny · 10-31-2011, 11:54 PM

Yes, wow!

Scarecrow · 10-31-2011, 11:54 PM

HOLY SHIT

bulletsponge · 10-31-2011, 11:55 PM

now i see why SD fans are atheists.

Lathum · 10-31-2011, 11:57 PM

err, what happened?

Scarecrow · 10-31-2011, 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

err, what happened?

Rivers fumbled on the 25 with 35 seconds left.

bhlloy · 11-01-2011, 12:01 AM

lolchargers

Lathum · 11-01-2011, 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scarecrow

Rivers fumbled on the 25 with 35 seconds left.

haha, awesome. I bet he blamed it on someone else also.

bronconick · 11-01-2011, 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

haha, awesome. I bet he blamed it on someone else also.

Considering it was a snap exchange where he closed his hand, I wish him luck in that.

kingfc22 · 11-01-2011, 12:04 AM

McNeil should have stayed in SD for this game.

bhlloy · 11-01-2011, 12:17 AM

I'd probably be in favor of a completely new coaching staff right now. Enough blame to go around, so just can all of them and start again. Shame Spanos is far too cheap to think about doing that.

jbergey22 · 11-01-2011, 12:23 AM

Awful Chargers!

Its one thing if a team like that comes out and beats you its another if they dont even play that great and you still lose to them.

Antmeister · 11-01-2011, 12:27 AM

Damn Chargers. Yet not surprising. That has to be the most creative way to lose a game.

Antmeister · 11-01-2011, 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NorvTurnerOverdrive

chargers have 2 6'5 wr's and a terrible red zone offense. it make no sense.

LOL! Thank you Norv.

Antmeister · 11-01-2011, 12:36 AM

By the way, this is the second straight game where Marty Schottenheimer was in attendance to watch the Chargers. Last week was because he was supporting his son on the Jets and this week he was honored by the KC Chiefs. He's got to be loving this (although he would never say it).

bronconick · 11-01-2011, 12:39 AM

These guys post game are speechless.

bhlloy · 11-01-2011, 12:48 AM

and the one good thing to come out of this week (somebody who actually looks like a real RB and can break a tackle) is broken as well, as Brinkley has a concussion

stevew · 11-01-2011, 01:23 AM

I wonder if the Chargers would just fire everyone and cede operations to Cowher. I think he would be a good fit, plus I think he could get Rivers in line.

Butter · 11-01-2011, 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

err, what happened?

Yeah, I turned it off thinking the Chargers had it won and I had work tomorrow. Little did I know how far the Chargers would go to blow the game.

10-31-2011, 11:35 AM	#152
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10-31-2011, 11:50 AM	#153
JediKooter Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: San Diego via Sausalito via San Jose via San Diego	Chargers/Chiefs at Arrowhead... Chargers always have a hard time winning in Kansas City - Check Chargers have zero wins against an opponent with a .500 record better - Check Chargers still coached by Norv Turner - Check Chargers 17 - Chiefs 21 __________________ I'm no longer a Chargers fan, they are dead to me Coming this summer to a movie theater near you: The Adventures of Jedikooter: Part 4 Last edited by JediKooter : 10-31-2011 at 11:50 AM.

10-31-2011, 12:22 PM	#154
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	__________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

10-31-2011, 12:50 PM	#155
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10-31-2011, 07:20 PM	#161
JediKooter Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: San Diego via Sausalito via San Jose via San Diego	Ed Hochuli would have given possession to the Broncos, where they would then score a last second touchdown and two point conversion... __________________ I'm no longer a Chargers fan, they are dead to me Coming this summer to a movie theater near you: The Adventures of Jedikooter: Part 4

10-31-2011, 06:14 PM	#159
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	I wonder why they didn't declare it Pittsburgh ball on the spot where Troy touched it. Seems like a more correct call than a safety anyways.

10-31-2011, 08:00 PM	#164
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	I feel exactly the same way about this Chargers team. For whatever reason, I think they are going to lose to divisional opponents while Norv Turner is the head coach. Against a big out of division opponent I know they'll put in a good performance and against a mediocre division opponent I know they are going to do the opposite. Almost to the point where I'd be stunned to see a Chargers win tonight.

10-31-2011, 09:12 PM	#168
jbergey22 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Minnesota	Wow Rivers. Forcing things tonight?

10-31-2011, 09:14 PM	#169
jbergey22 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Minnesota	What a poor call. What was the dback suppose to do there?

10-31-2011, 09:14 PM	#170
RainMaker Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	15 yard penalty for playing defense.

10-31-2011, 10:05 PM	#171
jbergey22 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Minnesota	Refs have ruined this game. Id like to know how a ball can go 7-8 yards forward without it being a forward pass and the defense not hitting it from behind? That was obviously an incomplete pass. His arm obviously was moving it forward for it to land 7-8 yards forward. If not it would have landed behind him or went straight up in the air. Then they turn around and call some make up PI on Gates. Just call the game right and you dont need makeup calls. Just cant stand when refs take over games. Last edited by jbergey22 : 10-31-2011 at 10:16 PM.

10-31-2011, 10:09 PM	#172
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	Shitty play on the field. Shitty refs. Story of the 2011 NFL season. At least the players were locked out of training camp, what's the ref's excuse?

10-31-2011, 10:12 PM	#173
Jas_lov College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	Both teams have been screwed by the refs. The Chiefs had two replay challenges go against them. Haley's challenge on the fumble looked like a lock to be overturned and it stood for whatever reason. Gruden is a joke and just needs to go back to coaching, he's not good in the booth.

10-31-2011, 10:40 PM	#175
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	I can't recall watching Rivers throw so many ducks in a single game. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

10-31-2011, 11:09 PM	#177
NorvTurnerOverdrive College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2008	chargers have 2 6'5 wr's and a terrible red zone offense. it make no sense.

10-31-2011, 11:35 PM	#178
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	I'd say no good from the live look. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

10-31-2011, 11:43 PM	#179
Scarecrow College Prospect Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Flatlands of America	McNeil has more yards in penalties than the Chiefs have rushing. __________________ Post Count: Eleventy Billion - so deal with it!

10-31-2011, 11:44 PM	#180
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Is there a net KR stat(like the punters one?). For returns that don't make the 20.

10-31-2011, 11:53 PM	#181
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Wow... __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

10-31-2011, 11:54 PM	#182
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	Wow....

10-31-2011, 11:54 PM	#183
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Yes, wow!

10-31-2011, 11:54 PM	#184
Scarecrow College Prospect Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Flatlands of America	HOLY SHIT __________________ Post Count: Eleventy Billion - so deal with it!

10-31-2011, 11:55 PM	#185
bulletsponge Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: TX	now i see why SD fans are atheists.

10-31-2011, 11:57 PM	#186
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	err, what happened?

11-01-2011, 12:01 AM	#188
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	lolchargers

11-01-2011, 12:04 AM	#191
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	McNeil should have stayed in SD for this game. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

11-01-2011, 12:17 AM	#192
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	I'd probably be in favor of a completely new coaching staff right now. Enough blame to go around, so just can all of them and start again. Shame Spanos is far too cheap to think about doing that.

11-01-2011, 12:23 AM	#193
jbergey22 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Minnesota	Awful Chargers! Its one thing if a team like that comes out and beats you its another if they dont even play that great and you still lose to them.

11-01-2011, 12:27 AM	#194
Antmeister Pro Starter Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: At the corner of Beat Street and Electric Avenue	Damn Chargers. Yet not surprising. That has to be the most creative way to lose a game. __________________ "I'm ready to bury the hatchet, but don't fuck with me" - Schmidty "Box me once, shame on Skydog. Box me twice. Shame on me. Box me 3 times, just fucking ban my ass...." - stevew

11-01-2011, 12:36 AM	#196
Antmeister Pro Starter Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: At the corner of Beat Street and Electric Avenue	By the way, this is the second straight game where Marty Schottenheimer was in attendance to watch the Chargers. Last week was because he was supporting his son on the Jets and this week he was honored by the KC Chiefs. He's got to be loving this (although he would never say it). __________________ "I'm ready to bury the hatchet, but don't fuck with me" - Schmidty "Box me once, shame on Skydog. Box me twice. Shame on me. Box me 3 times, just fucking ban my ass...." - stevew

11-01-2011, 12:39 AM	#197
bronconick College Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Kalamazoo, MI	These guys post game are speechless.

11-01-2011, 12:48 AM	#198
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	and the one good thing to come out of this week (somebody who actually looks like a real RB and can break a tackle) is broken as well, as Brinkley has a concussion

11-01-2011, 01:23 AM	#199
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	I wonder if the Chargers would just fire everyone and cede operations to Cowher. I think he would be a good fit, plus I think he could get Rivers in line.

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