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Old 11-02-2009, 07:29 PM   #151
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I don't know if this will get any traction but

UNVOTE EF
VOTE PASS


His comments have really chapped my ass. He claims I was SO against Jag switching his vote to EF, if thats the case than WHY THE HELL WOULD I HAVE MY VOTE THERE?

It's crappy, crappy logic...

He claims I was SO against
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Old 11-02-2009, 07:29 PM   #152
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Not sure what else to say other than it's just soing to continue the lousy village play trend from last game if I am voted out. I suspect I am gettig backlash from being "untouchable" last game. I also suspect that the wolves are behind the move somewhere along the line.

I knew I was in line for this vote before the game even began so it doesn't surprise me in the least. Especially when Lathum announced his intention before the game even began, it just gave the wolves a target once the game started.
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Old 11-02-2009, 07:29 PM   #153
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PLEASE make sure your inboxes are emptied out, there are a couple people I am trying to contact.

Also, be back in 20 minutes. Thanks for the vote updates guys!
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Old 11-02-2009, 07:32 PM   #154
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Not sure what else to say other than it's just soing to continue the lousy village play trend from last game if I am voted out. I suspect I am gettig backlash from being "untouchable" last game. I also suspect that the wolves are behind the move somewhere along the line.

I knew I was in line for this vote before the game even began so it doesn't surprise me in the least. Especially when Lathum announced his intention before the game even began, it just gave the wolves a target once the game started.

Quite honestly, I would vote for someone else, but if I unvote again, I'll probably catch a crapstorm (are we allowed to swear this game?), that I'm afraid to move it.
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Old 11-02-2009, 07:34 PM   #155
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For my take on the voters:

Lathum - no real idea as it seemed to be a planned vote from before the game began (probably ties into my RA vote day one last game)

Schmidty - He reacted too strongly to my vote, probably a villager based on how I have seen him play

Alan T - Latched on pretty quickly to nothing, keep your eye on him after I get voted off, I would bet that 3rd vote is actually more telling than 2nd vote as 2nd vote usually gets all the attention

JAG - no idea yet

The Jackal - I always give him too much benefit of the doubt but have not idea yet
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Old 11-02-2009, 07:48 PM   #156
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Eaglefan 5 - Schmidty (64), Alan T (96), Jag (132), Jackal (134), Pass (141)
Lerriuqs 5 - Danny (92), J23 (122), Darth Vilius (127), hoops (144), LSG (147)
The Jackal 1 - DaddyTorgo (139)
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Old 11-02-2009, 07:51 PM   #157
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So EF or Lerriuqs?

Hmmm....
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Old 11-02-2009, 07:55 PM   #158
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So EF or Lerriuqs?

Hmmm....

or Pass...
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Old 11-02-2009, 07:56 PM   #159
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Why not 3rd party? AlanT seems to be the one that started that run on me. I would hope that everyone would look long and hard at him if I am lynched.

Why don't we bring him into the mix and really get a good voting history to judge? If I end up getting lynched I would rather the village have some good information to disect afterwards so it's not in vein.
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Old 11-02-2009, 07:56 PM   #160
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So...we have another hour right? All you guys change time and I don't so I get confused for about a week or so...
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Old 11-02-2009, 07:56 PM   #161
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Yeah. Another hour.
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Old 11-02-2009, 07:57 PM   #162
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Lerriuqs, why do you still have your vote on Danny. The logical vote for you is EF. Are you thinking of going elsewhere or just waiting to see what develops?
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Old 11-02-2009, 07:58 PM   #163
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Actually in the past three games I have played all three times the person has been a wolf. So it has great success. The last game I remember is I voted for Autumn and then I got duked and stopped following the game, and GE told me later that Autumn was a wolf. So this 'silly' strategy works for me

I actually meant something where you went back and checked how often it happened overall.
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Old 11-02-2009, 07:58 PM   #164
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Why not 3rd party? AlanT seems to be the one that started that run on me. I would hope that everyone would look long and hard at him if I am lynched.

Why don't we bring him into the mix and really get a good voting history to judge? If I end up getting lynched I would rather the village have some good information to disect afterwards so it's not in vein.

Dude. It's 5-5-1

I'm not feeling a big likelyhood that a third party candidate is going to be a big factor tonight.

I'm not feeling any real suspicion against AlanT anyway.
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Old 11-02-2009, 07:59 PM   #165
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Lerriuqs, why do you still have your vote on Danny. The logical vote for you is EF. Are you thinking of going elsewhere or just waiting to see what develops?

Kinda waiting to see what develops. I'll vote EF if I have to, but I'm not sold more there than anywhere else. EF hasn't voted either so it's not like there's any advantage to it at this point.
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Old 11-02-2009, 08:00 PM   #166
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what the hell are you talking about?

Show me where I was against anything? I asked him to explain his logic.

I have a vote on EF for christs sake,have you even read the thread? Seems to me like you are trying to set me up for something.

You said it makes no sense to you. I assumed that meant you were against it. If not, that's fine. Anyway, like I told lerriuqs, just because you're paranoid, it doesn't mean they're not out to get you!
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Old 11-02-2009, 08:01 PM   #167
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Old 11-02-2009, 08:02 PM   #168
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Kinda waiting to see what develops. I'll vote EF if I have to, but I'm not sold more there than anywhere else. EF hasn't voted either so it's not like there's any advantage to it at this point.

Ditto. Our votes cancel out and I would rather see another choice out there. My gut says villager/villager at the moment so I am not in a hurry to vote at this time.
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Old 11-02-2009, 08:02 PM   #169
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I don't know if this will get any traction but

UNVOTE EF
VOTE PASS


His comments have really chapped my ass. He claims I was SO against Jag switching his vote to EF, if thats the case than WHY THE HELL WOULD I HAVE MY VOTE THERE?

It's crappy, crappy logic...

He claims I was SO against

You SAIDthe logic doesn't make any SENSE so I assumed you were AGAINST it.
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Old 11-02-2009, 08:02 PM   #170
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I hate day one votes. I kind of agree with whoever it was that said it was suspicious how EF got a lot of votes early and then nothing else for a while during the day. It's not much, but heck, I don't have any reason to suspect anybody really right now anyway, so it's better than nothing.

VOTE EAGLEFAN
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Old 11-02-2009, 08:03 PM   #171
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My kids are causing some issues tonight. I can't quite tell how soon I'm going to get in here. I can see it's tied and so I don't want to just throw out a vote without catching up. I'm going to try to come in and out and figure something out. I'd be fine with voting for a 3rd person if I see something, neither of these guys particularly stood out,but I want to look at the vote movement and see.
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Old 11-02-2009, 08:04 PM   #172
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or Pass...

Oh, right, you unvoted EF. Doesn't that take away some of your argument that whatever it is I'm trying to set you up for because you had your vote on him?
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Old 11-02-2009, 08:04 PM   #173
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vote The Jackal

Seems odd that he was a third candidate an then at the blink of an eye was out of the running.
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Old 11-02-2009, 08:04 PM   #174
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You said it makes no sense to you. I assumed that meant you were against it. If not, that's fine. Anyway, like I told lerriuqs, just because you're paranoid, it doesn't mean they're not out to get you!

so saying you don't get someones logic equates to being against it? On what planet does that make any sense?
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Old 11-02-2009, 08:05 PM   #175
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Unvote Danny

Vote the Jackal


Let's see if there's any traction here. A third candidate on Day 1 isn't a bad thing.
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Old 11-02-2009, 08:05 PM   #176
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Votes and PMs count as long as they beat the :01 of each deadline. In other words, a 9:00 vote counts, 9:01 does not.
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Old 11-02-2009, 08:06 PM   #177
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vote The Jackal

Seems odd that he was a third candidate an then at the blink of an eye was out of the running.

I felt the same about Schmidty. As soon as I voted him it seemed he got unvoted.
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Old 11-02-2009, 08:06 PM   #178
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Oh, right, you unvoted EF. Doesn't that take away some of your argument that whatever it is I'm trying to set you up for because you had your vote on him?

considering I unvoted him to vote you, who I find to be making suspicious argments then no, it takes nothing away from it.
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Old 11-02-2009, 08:07 PM   #179
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I would like to keep things even for the time being and see if anyone moves their vote one way or the other.

VOTE lerriqus
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Old 11-02-2009, 08:08 PM   #180
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can someone not Pass read his argument and please tell me I am not crazy...
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Old 11-02-2009, 08:08 PM   #181
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I would like to keep things even for the time being and see if anyone moves their vote one way or the other.

VOTE lerriqus

So you keep things even by making them uneven??
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Old 11-02-2009, 08:10 PM   #182
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can someone not Pass read his argument and please tell me I am not crazy...

Well I think you're being Lathum, by which I mean a bit dramatic. But I see what you mean, you didn't understand Jag's thinking. However, in Pass's defense, this is Werewolf, and we're supposed to make mountains out of molehills. Especially on day one.
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Old 11-02-2009, 08:10 PM   #183
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So you keep things even by making them uneven??

I think he tied it up, didn't he?
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Old 11-02-2009, 08:11 PM   #184
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I think he tied it up, didn't he?

Sorry, missed Kwhit's vote. Yes he did.
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Old 11-02-2009, 08:12 PM   #185
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Catching up on the days posts, I don't currently see a reason to move my vote. It is tied 5-5 if I am correct, and out of the two Eaglefan vs Lerriqus, it feels to me that Eaglefan's comments earlier in the day did more to cause people to vote for him vs lerriqus who I can't really find any reason for the votes for. All I saw in catching up was one person saying they had problems reading him (on day 1?) and then a bunch of folks piling on as a not-Eaglefan vote.

I find it curious that lerriqus and Eaglefan are not wanting to vote each other, and Eaglefan is actively campaigning for a third candidate instead. I don't see any reason on day 1 why someone would rather risk their life then someone else via any of the good guy roles. I can think of a few bad roles that would give reasons for that though.

I also found it interesting that Lathum also seems to be talking one way and acting a different today by trying to back up his stance by saying his vote was still on Eaglefan despite appearing to try to talk people out of the vote. Then he seemed to latch on to a fairly flimsy reason to move his vote off as it came down to the wire later in the evening. he also is avoiding both Eaglefan and Lerriuqs and trying to get a third party candidate starting up.


At this point, I'm not sure it matters to me which one of the two get lynched based on the various moves tonight though.
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Old 11-02-2009, 08:13 PM   #186
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As of 184:

Eaglefan 6 - Schmidty (64), Alan T (96), Jag (132), Jackal (134), Pass (141), KWhit (170),
Lerriuqs 6 - Danny (92), J23 (122), Darth Vilius (127), hoops (144), LSG (147), GoldenEagle (179)
The Jackal 3 - DaddyTorgo (139), Eaglefan (173), Lerriuqs (175)
JAG 1 - dubb93 (115)
Schmidty 1 - Autumn (119)
Pass 1 - Lathum (151)

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Old 11-02-2009, 08:13 PM   #187
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Old 11-02-2009, 08:14 PM   #188
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So you keep things even by making them uneven??

Why are you hesitant to vote for EagleFan?
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Old 11-02-2009, 08:15 PM   #189
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As of 184:

Eaglefan 6 - Schmidty (64), Alan T (96), Jag (132), Jackal (134), Pass (141), KWhit (170)
Lerriuqs 6 - Danny (92), J23 (122), Darth Vilius (127), hoops (144), LSG (147), GE (179)
The Jackal 3 - DaddyTorgo (139), EagleFan (173), lerriuqs (175)
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Old 11-02-2009, 08:16 PM   #190
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Why are you hesitant to vote for EagleFan?

I dunno. Though at the same time, it doesn't matter whether I do or not until EF votes for me.
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Old 11-02-2009, 08:17 PM   #191
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Yeah baby!!!!! Throw at Victorino will they.
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Old 11-02-2009, 08:18 PM   #192
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I actually meant something where you went back and checked how often it happened overall.

Yah I dont keep up with games that closely, sorry. But its a great idea to keep track of that
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Old 11-02-2009, 08:19 PM   #193
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Well, partly in self defense and partly in a decision between EF and lerriuqs posts:

VOTE EF

Did you consider Lerriuqs here? seems odd that you separate the vote here instead of putting the pressure on a second candidate and establishing yourself as a distant 3rd.
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Old 11-02-2009, 08:19 PM   #194
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Unvote Danny

Vote the Jackal


Let's see if there's any traction here. A third candidate on Day 1 isn't a bad thing.

I do not like the run here on The Jackal, two votes in ten minutes?
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Old 11-02-2009, 08:20 PM   #195
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Okay, I may have to leave the computer for a bit so I can't wait any longer. The third candidate obviously isn't going to fly. My self-defense vote, though it will be offset.

UNVOTE jackal

VOTE Eaglefan


Though, this is just great, get a decent role and I'm a potential Day 1 lynchee...
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Old 11-02-2009, 08:21 PM   #196
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Not fond of day one votes. Never have been.

I have nothing to go on any of these folks so I'll be back before 9 to see if a vote matters at this point.

I hate day 1 votes for the most part
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Old 11-02-2009, 08:21 PM   #197
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Catching up on the days posts, I don't currently see a reason to move my vote. It is tied 5-5 if I am correct, and out of the two Eaglefan vs Lerriqus, it feels to me that Eaglefan's comments earlier in the day did more to cause people to vote for him vs lerriqus who I can't really find any reason for the votes for. All I saw in catching up was one person saying they had problems reading him (on day 1?) and then a bunch of folks piling on as a not-Eaglefan vote.

I find it curious that lerriqus and Eaglefan are not wanting to vote each other, and Eaglefan is actively campaigning for a third candidate instead. I don't see any reason on day 1 why someone would rather risk their life then someone else via any of the good guy roles. I can think of a few bad roles that would give reasons for that though.

I also found it interesting that Lathum also seems to be talking one way and acting a different today by trying to back up his stance by saying his vote was still on Eaglefan despite appearing to try to talk people out of the vote. Then he seemed to latch on to a fairly flimsy reason to move his vote off as it came down to the wire later in the evening. he also is avoiding both Eaglefan and Lerriuqs and trying to get a third party candidate starting up.


At this point, I'm not sure it matters to me which one of the two get lynched based on the various moves tonight though.

Yeah, wouldn't that be a nice surprise to have 2 in our sights.

Not likely, but a guy can dream, right?
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Old 11-02-2009, 08:22 PM   #198
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I do not like the run here on The Jackal, two votes in ten minutes?


Well, I have a serious problem with the last 20 minutes. maybe it is because I sped read to catch up on the thread and only really focused on the last twenty minutes...

But in that time I've seen Lathum campaign for Passacaglia.
Eaglefan campaign for me, and then for The Jackal
Lerriuqs move a vote to the jackal immediately after Eaglefan did


Maybe I am reading too much into things, but it feels like these three are actively trying to make a momentum shift here and I haven't seen the reason for it.
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Old 11-02-2009, 08:24 PM   #199
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Ditto. Our votes cancel out and I would rather see another choice out there. My gut says villager/villager at the moment so I am not in a hurry to vote at this time.

Im considering the possibility of entering in a 3rd candidate now too, but am leaning against it after what happened last game.
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Old 11-02-2009, 08:24 PM   #200
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Well, I have a serious problem with the last 20 minutes. maybe it is because I sped read to catch up on the thread and only really focused on the last twenty minutes...

But in that time I've seen Lathum campaign for Passacaglia.
Eaglefan campaign for me, and then for The Jackal
Lerriuqs move a vote to the jackal immediately after Eaglefan did


Maybe I am reading too much into things, but it feels like these three are actively trying to make a momentum shift here and I haven't seen the reason for it.

Well I guarantee I'm not in league with those two. But I have been trying to create a momentum shift - to keep me from being lynched - but both villagers and wolves do that.
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