NFL Week 7 Thread - Page 4

B & B · 10-23-2011, 11:25 PM

Ingram is not that good, hes like a Shonn Greene NFC style.

OTOH Jimmy Graham is the next Tony G. with upside.

I hope the team that drafts #1 trades Luck, just so I can grasp how much someone is willing to pay for him.

I mean, we can guess, but its a fuck ton. Literally. A FUCK TON.

Carson Palmer is worth a 1 and a 1/2???? Seriously?

LUCK has to be worth a FUCK TON.

I would start negotiations with this years top 10 first rounder, the next two years first rounders, then ask about the teams current pro-bowlers. Take a couple of them, a few other picks/young prospects and see how it shakes.

This trade could make the Ricky Williams / Hershel look like a bargain.

Lastly, for anyone who bets real money on football. dont take baltimore tomorrow, just dont.

Mustang · 10-23-2011, 11:35 PM

Not sure how much of the NFL lockout is part of this, but there are alot of bad and mediocre teams in the NFL this year.

jbergey22 · 10-23-2011, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by B & B

Ingram is not that good, hes like a Shonn Greene NFC style.

Shonn Green is a very good comparison. Very similar in how they run the ball. Both of their stregths are cutback runs. When the linebackers arent overshooting their gaps these two struggle.

jbergey22 · 10-23-2011, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Mustang

Not sure how much of the NFL lockout is part of this, but there are alot of bad and mediocre teams in the NFL this year.

A lot of young QBs in the league starting right now. Teams have started moving to the younger signal callers rather than sticking with the past their prime placeholders more quickly than they previously did.

I think these pass first offenses are making for more lopsided scores as well. Teams didnt previously pass 65 percent of the time.

M GO BLUE!!! · 10-24-2011, 12:04 AM

Just getting to post this now...

My thoughts on the Lions last couple games:

Aren't there passes in the playbook that are shorter than 15 yards? It seems that the Lions are an "all or nothing" team on offense.

My fears of the backfield being too thin were kinda realized in camp, now I'm wondering when we'll see Eric Lynch start a game.

Was Hill even warming up at the end when Stafford was barefoot & a defensive stop on 3rd down would have given them the ball with a chance to tie the game?

The Lions looked like a defeated team at the end today. Even when they still had a chance. Just like the last drive last week... where they seemed to think that they needed to score on one play instead of moving the chains a bit. They have no consistency.

Dutch · 10-24-2011, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by B & B

Carson Palmer is worth a 1 and a 1/2???? Seriously?

Well, it's not like their GM has been able to sim as many seasons as we have. He just doesn't know that that 1st and 2nd could be better used picking up a stud WR.

RainMaker · 10-24-2011, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Mustang

Not sure how much of the NFL lockout is part of this, but there are alot of bad and mediocre teams in the NFL this year.

I think the rule changes over the years to not allow teams to really play defense has given teams that do have good QBs a huge advantage.

Pumpy Tudors · 10-24-2011, 12:59 AM

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I think the rule changes over the years to not allow teams to really play defense has given teams that do have good QBs a huge advantage.

Oh, good grief.

gstelmack · 10-24-2011, 08:23 AM

On Sparano / Ireland: how can anyone be questioning why they have their jobs? The team celebrated the 2008 Florida Gators National Championship team for crying out loud! Seriously, could you make a visiting team feel any more welcome? Besides rolling over and letting them score 15 points right at the end of the game plus the winning FG in overtime?

miked · 10-24-2011, 08:38 AM

I guess I'm in the camp of not understanding the Tebow hate. He may not have the most ability of the QBs around the league, but he's sort of the guy everyone should be rooting for. He's not an asshole, he doesn't shoot dogs, doesn't feed alcohol to underage chicks, doesn't need a bonus advance to pay his back child support, etc. In a league where people bitch about the morality and attitude of players, he's got it. Never complains, just tries to win. Sure, he had a great cast in Gainesville and played a different style, but he won. It would seem that his teammates play hard for him as well. Ask Jeff George how important that is. Ask Randy Moss if he played harder in NE than OAK.

His throws are ugly, he may be a bit over the top, he may be a bit self-righteous, but I think this view of Tebow as a franchise savior comes more from the media trying to stir shit up. Plus, I think the more hate he starts to get, the more I actually want to root for him.

Ksyrup · 10-24-2011, 08:43 AM

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The pass ended up in a perfect spot, but a great pass puts a spiral in the perfect spot. It's almost like Tebow got the ball there by accident. If Tim Tebow was trying to throw the pass like that... well, heaven help us all.

I missed the game since we were at softball all afternoon, but I saw the highlights. Has he just decided to give up on trying to fix his motion? He was back to his old wind-up.

Also, isn't he like 6'2"? I don't know if it's his throwing motion or him being perpetually crouched like he's ready to run or get hit at a split-second's notice, but I swear he looks 6 inches shorter in the pocket than he should. The ball looks like it has to be thrown on an upward trajectory just to get it past the LOS. I guess that's part of the problem with his wind-up.

JAG · 10-24-2011, 09:08 AM

Another great tidbit from Pro Football Reference. Whitehurst joins Stan Gelbaugh as only Seahawks QBs with 30+ att. in a game and 97 or fewer yards.

Butter · 10-24-2011, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by miked

he may be a bit over the top, he may be a bit self-righteous,

A bit??????

Ksyrup · 10-24-2011, 10:00 AM

Maybe Tebow can be the first "closer" in the NFL. Let someone else suck it up for 3 quarters, then bring him in to "provide the spark" and rally the team. Just like most closers would have a 5 ERA if they were consistently used as starters, maybe Tebow with a 105 QB rating for a quarter's work every week would be better than 4 quarters worth of a 60-70 rating.

Ksyrup · 10-24-2011, 10:23 AM

I think they should just go all-in with the dude and run a college offense for him. Seriously. Dude averaged 8 yards a carry. Let him run it 20 times a game, and then mix in some McGahee and have one or two of the receivers run the option with him. be creative. It would probably do wonders for his accuracy when they do pass.

That's the problem with the NFL. No imagination. It's like corporate America - we're not doing anything new or unique because if it fails, we'll look stupid, so we'll just wait for some other idiot to make it successful, and then we'll copy it when they prove it can work.

McDaniels was probably the right guy to coach Tebow, but unfortunately, they let him buy the groceries, too, and all the dude was interested in eating was from the candy aisle at Walgreen's.

SteveMax58 · 10-24-2011, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

I think they should just go all-in with the dude and run a college offense for him. Seriously. Dude averaged 8 yards a carry. Let him run it 20 times a game, and then mix in some McGahee and have one or two of the receivers run the option with him. be creative. It would probably do wonders for his accuracy when they do pass.

That's the problem with the NFL. No imagination. It's like corporate America - we're not doing anything new or unique because if it fails, we'll look stupid, so we'll just wait for some other idiot to make it successful, and then we'll copy it when they prove it can work.

McDaniels was probably the right guy to coach Tebow, but unfortunately, they let him buy the groceries, too, and all the dude was interested in eating was from the candy aisle at Walgreen's.

He should have been in Miami to run the wildcat offense. Denver just really makes me scratch my head on their decision making regarding that whole Josh McDaniels hiring/firing situation. But that aside...I think Tebow ends up elsewhere & barring Miami winning the Luck lottery...wouldn't be surprised to see him there.

I agree, if you are going to run an offense with him...use the skills he has today & continue working on the skills he needs to be a complete QB.

Senator · 10-24-2011, 11:09 AM

I am happy for him. What people really hate about him is his openly religious beliefs. It is in vogue now to call people like him phonies.

cuervo72 · 10-24-2011, 11:21 AM

I think I don't root for him because of the college hype and because he played for Florida and in the SEC.

HE SO GOOD HE DOMINATED IN THE SEC HE GOING TO KICK THAT NFL's ASS.

(nevermind all of the other players from the SEC who kick ass in the NFL)

Logan · 10-24-2011, 11:24 AM

I didn't like him in college because of the media (ESPN) hype. Didn't care at all about his religious beliefs. This week may be the true test, but I've found it much easier to ignore the hype with him at the pro level, and have nothing against him. I'm rooting for him to bring a new element to the QB position, as that is always interesting.

Rizon · 10-24-2011, 11:26 AM

Almost noon in Miami and Sparano and Ireland still have jobs??? WTF is going on over there???

I get that Ross hasn't a clue how to run a team, but what is he doing? The Suckphins have the worst attendance outside of Cincinnati. He's got to be losing money? Or is he trying to move the team? The Salt Lake City Dolphins just don't have the same ring ...

Passacaglia · 10-24-2011, 11:34 AM

They probably got fired weeks ago, but through some glitch in accounting, they keep getting a paycheck.

JediKooter · 10-24-2011, 11:34 AM

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I predict the Jets will beat the Chargers.

Norv Turner...you sir, are waaaayyyy too predictable.

dubb93 · 10-24-2011, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by spleen1015

Time to take off my Colts colored glasses. I don't think this team would be very good with Manning healthy. The defense can't stop anyone.

This is the same defense we have had. They are built for the lead. A lead hasn't been anywhere in sight this year and the DE's are being asked to change their game as a result. No surprise they have been terrible. Hell even with a lead this defense failed about half the time anyway and asked Manning to bail them out in the end.

Ksyrup · 10-24-2011, 11:52 AM

Yeah, that D was built knowing they would score 35 points a game with manning at QB.

gstelmack · 10-24-2011, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Rizon

Almost noon in Miami and Sparano and Ireland still have jobs??? WTF is going on over there???

I get that Ross hasn't a clue how to run a team, but what is he doing? The Suckphins have the worst attendance outside of Cincinnati. He's got to be losing money? Or is he trying to move the team? The Salt Lake City Dolphins just don't have the same ring ...

I already answered your question:

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On Sparano / Ireland: how can anyone be questioning why they have their jobs? The team celebrated the 2008 Florida Gators National Championship team for crying out loud! Seriously, could you make a visiting team feel any more welcome? Besides rolling over and letting them score 15 points right at the end of the game plus the winning FG in overtime?

Rizon · 10-24-2011, 12:21 PM

Wow, news out of Miami says Sparano and Ireland are keeping their jobs.

Wow.

I am 100% certain Ross is tanking this team to get a superstar (Luck) to boost attendance. Also, Urban Meyer has been seen floating around Ross lately.

Interesting strategy.

Rizon · 10-24-2011, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by gstelmack

On Sparano / Ireland: how can anyone be questioning why they have their jobs? The team celebrated the 2008 Florida Gators National Championship team for crying out loud! Seriously, could you make a visiting team feel any more welcome? Besides rolling over and letting them score 15 points right at the end of the game plus the winning FG in overtime?

In all seriousness ... Urban Meyer is coaching this team next year. Definitely a play to brown nose him a bit.

Matthean · 10-24-2011, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Rizon

Wow, news out of Miami says Sparano and Ireland are keeping their jobs.

Wow.

I am 100% certain Ross is tanking this team to get a superstar (Luck) to boost attendance. Also, Urban Meyer has been seen floating around Ross lately.

Interesting strategy.

I think this is the overriding reason. It's why nobody from the winless teams is getting fired. Why fire a coach and then see the team win some games due to how happy the players are having a new coach only to lose out on Luck? The Lions 0-16 season can be matched just because some front offices will be so hell bent on getting the first pick.

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This is the same defense we have had. They are built for the lead. A lead hasn't been anywhere in sight this year and the DE's are being asked to change their game as a result. No surprise they have been terrible. Hell even with a lead this defense failed about half the time anyway and asked Manning to bail them out in the end.

They have had leads, but blown them. The biggest difference in last night's game is that a Manning lead team would never have mailed it in like they did. This team was only going to regress. Losing Manning only amplified it.

I think Indy's season and the Suck for Luck sweepstakes will be great material for ESPN documentaries. If Indy picks first, it will be a no brainer in terms of being made. The Rams getting the first pick is going to create chaos.

SteveMax58 · 10-24-2011, 12:52 PM

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I think Indy's season and the Suck for Luck sweepstakes will be great material for ESPN documentaries. If Indy picks first, it will be a no brainer in terms of being made. The Rams getting the first pick is going to create chaos.

I agree. This season is going to be one of those seasons where the league's integrity gets put into question, imho. Whether rightly or not...there are definitely teams not doing the same things they would do in any other season.

Are the coaches & players tanking? I dont think so in the case of the players...but wouldn't be shocked if, in the case of Ireland/Sparano, they are "in the loop" on the plan to get Luck in exchange for a nice position doing "something" for the team.

Of course...if that conspiracy theory has any merit to it...it could wind up being a self-defeating prophecy as they possibly make some moves due to pressure from the NFL, should the media start zeroing in on this.

RainMaker · 10-24-2011, 12:53 PM

I'm an Atheist and I root for Tebow. Just think he's a nice guy, works hard, and is a good example for people. Plus I like rooting for an underdog and he is one in the NFL.

JediKooter · 10-24-2011, 12:59 PM

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I'm an Atheist and I root for Tebow. Just think he's a nice guy, works hard, and is a good example for people. Plus I like rooting for an underdog and he is one in the NFL.

Yea, really over all, I've got nothing against the dude and definitely cheer for the underdog as well. The dude isn't mailing it in and was definitely playing his hardest yesterday. Heck, he had no picks, while Palmer, a proven vet, threw 3.

Ksyrup · 10-24-2011, 01:02 PM

Indy should have no problem faking their way through games. They've had plenty of practice pretending to play real games at the end of the season for the last decade, it seems.

RainMaker · 10-24-2011, 01:02 PM

It's also kind of nice to see a different style of QB and a little uniqueness to offense these days.

JediKooter · 10-24-2011, 01:24 PM

It just hit me...Norv Turner is the Barry Zito of NFL head coaches.

SunDevil · 10-24-2011, 01:45 PM

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Virginia (UFL) head coach Marty Schottenheimer. At long last, in his 22nd season as a pro head coach, Schottenheimer won a professional football championship. His Virginia Destroyers beat Jim Fassel's Las Vegas Locos 17-3 in Virginia Saturday night. "I'm a simple man,'' Schottenheimer said. "I told our guys that we didn't need to do anything fancy to win the game. Just go back to the basics and execute, and that's what we did.'' Is that a Marty quote or what? I think I've heard him say that 67 times as an NFL coach.

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NorvTurnerOverdrive · 10-24-2011, 01:50 PM

tebow's got heart. the fan/media worship isn't his fault. i'm a borderline misanthropist and i root for him.

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It just hit me...Norv Turner is the Barry Zito of NFL head coaches.

to be fair, laserface is an enigma. i said yesterday that he makes drew bledsoe look like randall cunnigham. he has to be the most unathletic player in the nfl.

JediKooter · 10-24-2011, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by NorvTurnerOverdrive

tebow's got heart. the fan/media worship isn't his fault. i'm a borderline misanthropist and i root for him.

to be fair, laserface is an enigma. i said yesterday that he makes drew bledsoe look like randall cunnigham. he has to be the most unathletic player in the nfl.

Who's laser face?

MacroGuru · 10-24-2011, 02:33 PM

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Who's laser face?

I think he is that guy that was running the Chargers hurry up and waltz offense.

jbergey22 · 10-24-2011, 02:52 PM

Actually I thought Tebow got a lot of compliments on here about how he played last week. I think when you get as much attention as he does its perfectly fair to question if he deserves it. Tebow was just awful yesterday for 95 percent of the game. He battles and he gives 100 percent all of the time but in the NFL this doesnt always translate to success.

NorvTurnerOverdrive · 10-24-2011, 03:03 PM

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Who's laser face?

rivers. it came from ksk. i haven't read it in years but they use to mock him relentlessly.

every time there is a failed 3rd down conv. he is furious with the sideline. he was screaming at norv after he sailed that 4th down pass out of bounds.

jbergey22 · 10-24-2011, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by NorvTurnerOverdrive

rivers. it came from ksk. i haven't read it in years but they use to mock him relentlessly.

every time there is a failed 3rd down conv. he is furious with the sideline. he was screaming at norv after he sailed that 4th down pass out of bounds.

After he threw the int that landed in Revis's arms yesterday. He chased him down and Revis whipped the ball in the stands I couldnt help but notice Rivers crying to the ref about that. Reminded me of an 8th grader.

An all-pro NFL QB acting like that just seemed funny to me.

Matthean · 10-24-2011, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

After he threw the int that landed in Revis's arms yesterday. He chased him down and Revis whipped the ball in the stands I couldnt help but notice Rivers crying to the ref about that. Reminded me of an 8th grader.

An all-pro NFL QB acting like that just seemed funny to me.

It's stuff that like, which prevents me from ever calling him elite. He'll put up great numbers in the regular season and fade in the playoffs once things get harder.

JediKooter · 10-24-2011, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by NorvTurnerOverdrive

rivers. it came from ksk. i haven't read it in years but they use to mock him relentlessly.

every time there is a failed 3rd down conv. he is furious with the sideline. he was screaming at norv after he sailed that 4th down pass out of bounds.

Well, he does have two shot knees, so he isn't going to be the most fleet of footed person out there.

I'd be furious with Norv too if he called a play that had Gates going to the sideline on a 4th down play. Norv is useless and even after having a bye week, the Chargers still look ill prepared. I was so hoping that the Raiders were going to win yesterday. Only thing that's going to get Norv out of San Diego is if they keep missing the playoffs.

stevew · 10-24-2011, 04:27 PM

The Vikings classic jerseys are so much better than the current shit that they wear.

MacroGuru · 10-24-2011, 04:40 PM

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I'd be furious with Norv too if he called a play that had Gates going to the sideline on a 4th down play.

This falls on the QB for not taking the chance to Audible...as well as his lolly gagging around and not forcing the team to run a proper hurry up....

Part of this loss was play calling, the other part was with Rivers not being effective when he needed to be...

mckerney · 10-24-2011, 04:50 PM

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The Vikings classic jerseys are so much better than the current shit that they wear.

Yup.

tucker rocky · 10-24-2011, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

They probably got fired weeks ago, but through some glitch in accounting, they keep getting a paycheck.

Like Milton from Office Space.

Pumpy Tudors · 10-24-2011, 05:36 PM

JediKooter · 10-24-2011, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MacroGuru

This falls on the QB for not taking the chance to Audible...as well as his lolly gagging around and not forcing the team to run a proper hurry up....

Part of this loss was play calling, the other part was with Rivers not being effective when he needed to be...

And that has been a problem ever since Norv has come on board. I don't even think preparedness is even a word in Norv's vocabulary and is also why every team he has ever been the head coach of, has progressively gotten worse each season, until he's fired.

EDIT: And the pattern is clearly continuing with his tenure as the Chargers' head coach.

EDIT PART 2: This also why the Chargers get so many damn delay of game calls against them too.

Julio Riddols · 10-24-2011, 05:53 PM

Interesting tidbit: As of right now, the top 4 defenses in yards allowed are all from the AFC North.

10-23-2011, 11:25 PM	#151
B & B College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: A sports era long ago when everything didnt require a Nike logo	Ingram is not that good, hes like a Shonn Greene NFC style. OTOH Jimmy Graham is the next Tony G. with upside. I hope the team that drafts #1 trades Luck, just so I can grasp how much someone is willing to pay for him. I mean, we can guess, but its a fuck ton. Literally. A FUCK TON. Carson Palmer is worth a 1 and a 1/2???? Seriously? LUCK has to be worth a FUCK TON. I would start negotiations with this years top 10 first rounder, the next two years first rounders, then ask about the teams current pro-bowlers. Take a couple of them, a few other picks/young prospects and see how it shakes. This trade could make the Ricky Williams / Hershel look like a bargain. Lastly, for anyone who bets real money on football. dont take baltimore tomorrow, just dont. __________________ Nobody cares about Kyle Orton because he's black. -PT

10-23-2011, 11:35 PM	#152
Mustang Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Wisconsin	Not sure how much of the NFL lockout is part of this, but there are alot of bad and mediocre teams in the NFL this year. __________________ You, you will regret what you have done this day. I will make you regret ever being born. Your going to wish you never left your mothers womb, where it was warm and safe... and wet. i am going to show you pain you never knew existed, you are going to see a whole new spectrum of pain, like a Rainboooow. But! This rainbow is not just like any other rainbow, its...

10-24-2011, 08:23 AM	#159
gstelmack Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cary, NC	On Sparano / Ireland: how can anyone be questioning why they have their jobs? The team celebrated the 2008 Florida Gators National Championship team for crying out loud! Seriously, could you make a visiting team feel any more welcome? Besides rolling over and letting them score 15 points right at the end of the game plus the winning FG in overtime? __________________ -- Greg -- Author of various FOF utilities

10-24-2011, 08:38 AM	#160
miked College Starter Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: The Dirty	I guess I'm in the camp of not understanding the Tebow hate. He may not have the most ability of the QBs around the league, but he's sort of the guy everyone should be rooting for. He's not an asshole, he doesn't shoot dogs, doesn't feed alcohol to underage chicks, doesn't need a bonus advance to pay his back child support, etc. In a league where people bitch about the morality and attitude of players, he's got it. Never complains, just tries to win. Sure, he had a great cast in Gainesville and played a different style, but he won. It would seem that his teammates play hard for him as well. Ask Jeff George how important that is. Ask Randy Moss if he played harder in NE than OAK. His throws are ugly, he may be a bit over the top, he may be a bit self-righteous, but I think this view of Tebow as a franchise savior comes more from the media trying to stir shit up. Plus, I think the more hate he starts to get, the more I actually want to root for him. __________________ Commish of the United Baseball League (OOTP 6.5)

10-24-2011, 10:00 AM	#164
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	Maybe Tebow can be the first "closer" in the NFL. Let someone else suck it up for 3 quarters, then bring him in to "provide the spark" and rally the team. Just like most closers would have a 5 ERA if they were consistently used as starters, maybe Tebow with a 105 QB rating for a quarter's work every week would be better than 4 quarters worth of a 60-70 rating. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

10-24-2011, 12:04 AM	#155
M GO BLUE!!! Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2005	Just getting to post this now... My thoughts on the Lions last couple games: Aren't there passes in the playbook that are shorter than 15 yards? It seems that the Lions are an "all or nothing" team on offense. My fears of the backfield being too thin were kinda realized in camp, now I'm wondering when we'll see Eric Lynch start a game. Was Hill even warming up at the end when Stafford was barefoot & a defensive stop on 3rd down would have given them the ball with a chance to tie the game? The Lions looked like a defeated team at the end today. Even when they still had a chance. Just like the last drive last week... where they seemed to think that they needed to score on one play instead of moving the chains a bit. They have no consistency.

10-24-2011, 09:08 AM	#162
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	Another great tidbit from Pro Football Reference. Whitehurst joins Stan Gelbaugh as only Seahawks QBs with 30+ att. in a game and 97 or fewer yards.

10-24-2011, 10:23 AM	#165
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	I think they should just go all-in with the dude and run a college offense for him. Seriously. Dude averaged 8 yards a carry. Let him run it 20 times a game, and then mix in some McGahee and have one or two of the receivers run the option with him. be creative. It would probably do wonders for his accuracy when they do pass. That's the problem with the NFL. No imagination. It's like corporate America - we're not doing anything new or unique because if it fails, we'll look stupid, so we'll just wait for some other idiot to make it successful, and then we'll copy it when they prove it can work. McDaniels was probably the right guy to coach Tebow, but unfortunately, they let him buy the groceries, too, and all the dude was interested in eating was from the candy aisle at Walgreen's. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

10-24-2011, 11:09 AM	#167
Senator FOFC's Elected Representative Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The stars at night; are big and bright	I am happy for him. What people really hate about him is his openly religious beliefs. It is in vogue now to call people like him phonies. __________________ "i have seen chris simms play 4-5 times in the pros and he's very clearly got it. he won't make a pro bowl this year, but it'll come. if you don't like me saying that, so be it, but its true. we'll just have to wait until then" imettrentgreen "looking at only ten games, and oddly using a median only, leaves me unmoved generally" - Quiksand

10-24-2011, 11:21 AM	#168
cuervo72 Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maryland	I think I don't root for him because of the college hype and because he played for Florida and in the SEC. HE SO GOOD HE DOMINATED IN THE SEC HE GOING TO KICK THAT NFL's ASS. (nevermind all of the other players from the SEC who kick ass in the NFL) __________________ null

10-24-2011, 11:24 AM	#169
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	I didn't like him in college because of the media (ESPN) hype. Didn't care at all about his religious beliefs. This week may be the true test, but I've found it much easier to ignore the hype with him at the pro level, and have nothing against him. I'm rooting for him to bring a new element to the QB position, as that is always interesting.

10-24-2011, 11:34 AM	#171
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	They probably got fired weeks ago, but through some glitch in accounting, they keep getting a paycheck.

10-24-2011, 11:52 AM	#174
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	Yeah, that D was built knowing they would score 35 points a game with manning at QB. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

10-24-2011, 12:53 PM	#180
RainMaker Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	I'm an Atheist and I root for Tebow. Just think he's a nice guy, works hard, and is a good example for people. Plus I like rooting for an underdog and he is one in the NFL.

10-24-2011, 01:02 PM	#182
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	Indy should have no problem faking their way through games. They've had plenty of practice pretending to play real games at the end of the season for the last decade, it seems. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

10-24-2011, 01:02 PM	#183
RainMaker Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	It's also kind of nice to see a different style of QB and a little uniqueness to offense these days.

10-24-2011, 01:24 PM	#184
JediKooter Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: San Diego via Sausalito via San Jose via San Diego	It just hit me...Norv Turner is the Barry Zito of NFL head coaches. __________________ I'm no longer a Chargers fan, they are dead to me Coming this summer to a movie theater near you: The Adventures of Jedikooter: Part 4

10-24-2011, 02:52 PM	#189
jbergey22 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Minnesota	Actually I thought Tebow got a lot of compliments on here about how he played last week. I think when you get as much attention as he does its perfectly fair to question if he deserves it. Tebow was just awful yesterday for 95 percent of the game. He battles and he gives 100 percent all of the time but in the NFL this doesnt always translate to success.

10-24-2011, 04:27 PM	#194
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	The Vikings classic jerseys are so much better than the current shit that they wear.

10-24-2011, 05:36 PM	#198
Pumpy Tudors Bounty Hunter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	lol __________________ No, I am not Batman, and I will not repair your food processor.

10-24-2011, 05:53 PM	#200
Julio Riddols College Prospect Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Bryson Shitty, NC	Interesting tidbit: As of right now, the top 4 defenses in yards allowed are all from the AFC North. __________________ Recklessly enthused, stubbornly amused. FUCK EA

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