NFL Draft Thread 2011 - Page 4

remper · 04-28-2011, 09:22 PM

WHAT!? Fairley to the Lions!!

bhlloy · 04-28-2011, 09:22 PM

Great value for the Lions there. They must have been absolutely pissing themselves when Minnesota went ahead of them just to take Ponder.

bulletsponge · 04-28-2011, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by rowech

I will stand by this statement in five years. He will be the best QB of the draft.

that isnt saying much. and i hope so

remper · 04-28-2011, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by rjolley

Exactly what I was thinking.

Now, watch he turns into Montana or Farve or something...
Speaking of the Bears, trade up for Amukamara?

Do the Bears really do things like... trade up for talent? What's that mean? I wouldn't trust them with a pick this high any way... lol

rjolley · 04-28-2011, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by remper

Do the Bears really do things like... trade up for talent? What's that mean? I wouldn't trust them with a pick this high any way... lol

I can't remember the last time they did...or I block the memory because it was for Salaam or somebody like that.

rowech · 04-28-2011, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by bhlloy

Great value for the Lions there. They must have been absolutely pissing themselves when Minnesota went ahead of them just to take Ponder.

Yes...he and Suh together are going to creat some serious havoc.

Thomkal · 04-28-2011, 09:28 PM

I'm guessing Seattle or somebody will be trading up to get Dalton now. I think these trades up to get QB prospects with a lot of questions is more of a reaction to how poor the overall QB talent is in the NFL now-and all the injuries they had last season than anything else.

Galaxy · 04-28-2011, 09:29 PM

Seriously, who sat around and decided:

"You know what will make for better television and our viewers will love?"

"Ruining the suspense!"

mckerney · 04-28-2011, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by bulletsponge

popnder better not suck, or that coach is fired.

Hoping Spielman isn't around much longer, Vikings drafts have been disappointing since he became GM.

Warhammer · 04-28-2011, 09:29 PM

WHY?!?!?! Rams need offense, not D...

Easy Mac · 04-28-2011, 09:30 PM

Is this draft just a joke by the owners with their draft strategy? Ponder and Locker in round 1?

Noop · 04-28-2011, 09:30 PM

Ponder? That is a shocker and even though I am a Florida State fan I don't like the pick.

path12 · 04-28-2011, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal

I'm guessing Seattle or somebody will be trading up to get Dalton now. I think these trades up to get QB prospects with a lot of questions is more of a reaction to how poor the overall QB talent is in the NFL now-and all the injuries they had last season than anything else.

I don't think Seattle will trade up, they're looking to get the third rounder they spent for Whitehurst back. Plus, lots of linemen (O and D) coming their way with this QB run.

JonInMiddleGA · 04-28-2011, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy Mac

Is this draft just a joke by the owners with their draft strategy? Ponder and Locker in round 1?

I've been wondering whether most teams got mixed up & accidentally locked out their staff for several weeks leading up to the draft.

Warhammer · 04-28-2011, 09:35 PM

Redskins get Mallet at 16?

Thomkal · 04-28-2011, 09:36 PM

And in Miami Chad Henne and my man Tyler Thigpen breath a sigh of relief.

bronconick · 04-28-2011, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Noop

Ponder? That is a shocker and even though I am a Florida State fan I don't like the pick.

That pick's going to look even worse given that he'll probably be killed the first time Minnesota plays Detroit.

Noop · 04-28-2011, 09:37 PM

The Dolphins made a decent pick. He will make our line solid in the middle but he is no where near as good as his brother.

Grade: -B/B

Noop · 04-28-2011, 09:39 PM

Mel Kiper needs to stop sucking Andy Dalton's dick. He must owe Dalton's agent a favor or something because he keeps pimping this kid.

bronconick · 04-28-2011, 09:40 PM

Is Dalton's agent the same as Clausen's last year?

Crapshoot · 04-28-2011, 09:44 PM

Its fascinating - given the lockout, rookies at positions requiring a lot of learning (QB, OT, MLB) are probably at a severe disadvantage in terms of not being able to know the plays / packages - I wonder if in the short-term, that incentivizes atheletes types - be it an RB, a CB, or a pass-rusher type.

JAG · 04-28-2011, 09:45 PM

The Redskins got an extra second round pick for their trade down with Jacksonville? Good trade for them (unfortunately).

Galaxy · 04-28-2011, 09:50 PM

Great day for the Bills. Newton went No. 1 and Ponder went No. 12 (who I guess Chan Gailey really was interested in). Hopefully they can do something good with that No. 35 pick.

sovereignstar v2 · 04-28-2011, 09:50 PM

Yeah. So I just realized the draft was on tonight. lol

Thomkal · 04-28-2011, 09:50 PM

nice to see the Redskins pass on character issues Mallet (for now at least) given all the trouble they had there last season (and now again with Haynesworth)

cartman · 04-28-2011, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by bulletsponge

dallas needs a tackle badly, their Oline has been a liability the last few years.

I think it was Norm Hitzges this weekend that said, when asked who the Cowboys should go for in the draft, "They need to get 1,000 pounds of beef in the first three rounds".

RedKingGold · 04-28-2011, 10:01 PM

He's a f*cking Solder!

Lathum · 04-28-2011, 10:04 PM

Thrilled about the Giants taking Prince

JonInMiddleGA · 04-28-2011, 10:04 PM

Did someone try to gift wrap Prince's mom/relative?

MizzouRah · 04-28-2011, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Warhammer

WHY?!?!?! Rams need offense, not D...

They actually need a DT or CB.. I liked Prince at that pick since the two good receivers were gone.

Young Drachma · 04-28-2011, 10:09 PM

I wish they'd pick "character issues" as the biggest overused sports cliche.

Matthean · 04-28-2011, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by remper

WHAT!? Fairley to the Lions!!

I get they love DL. I get they want to solidify it. I don't get passing on Prince.

Mustang · 04-28-2011, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthean

I don't get passing on Prince.

You don't pass on Prince!

(I'm so punny)

Mustang · 04-28-2011, 10:16 PM

Any number of players that I'd be happy for the Packers to take at 32. (DL/OL)

jbergey22 · 04-28-2011, 10:20 PM

Its really sad that so many teams have yet to figure out draft value.

Fuck you Vikings!

You could have had Ponder, Dalton, or Mallet in the 2nd found and gotten Fairly in the first.

Instead you get some weak armed career backup QB and let a division rival overtake you for best Interior DLine in the division.

Its safe to say the Vikings planned on getting Locker and were a fish out of water when it couldnt happen. Damn fools!

jbergey22 · 04-28-2011, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthean

I get they love DL. I get they want to solidify it. I don't get passing on Prince.

I think them two will just motivate each other. With that dline your defense has anchors for the next few years. He was the projected #1 pick just 3 months ago but apparently his work ethic scared teams off. With Suh on the team I dont think Fairley will have the option of getting lazy.

Lions will finish with a better record than the Vikings next year. Book it.

Galaxy · 04-28-2011, 10:34 PM

They should let one of the guys announce the pick.

JonInMiddleGA · 04-28-2011, 10:39 PM

Cool moment with the firefighter pick, probably the sidebar highlight of the night for me. (My dad was a volunteer for 20+ years, my brother-in-law is now a full-time pro, my niece is a volunteer & is working on her EMT certification as well).

jbergey22 · 04-28-2011, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

Ponder is a fool

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Originally Posted by Noop

I hate Ponder he is a fucking bum.

From the college football thread this past year. I guess I deserve this.

Atocep · 04-28-2011, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthean

I get they love DL. I get they want to solidify it. I don't get passing on Prince.

Football Outsiders had Prince as one of the most overrated players in the draft. His numbers against the pass were embarrassingly bad.

bhlloy · 04-28-2011, 10:49 PM

Seriously, ESPN must be on commission if Dalton gets picked in the first. Kiper just suggested him as a possible Saints pick (I think they have a QB already) and now Schefter mentioned him as one of the best players left on the board.

Noop · 04-28-2011, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

From the college football thread this past year. I guess I deserve this.

I honestly was shocked by that pick. Ponder has not shown to be a winner (meaning come from behind victories) each time he had a chance to win the game he has failed. Ponder loves to check down even if there are options down field. Get use to being frustrated by a lack of a vertical game but you never know he might become a solid starter.

I doubt it.

Izulde · 04-28-2011, 10:55 PM

I think the Dolphins got a solid pick with Pouncey. Was hoping we'd trade down, but shoring up our interior o-line works.

jbergey22 · 04-28-2011, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Noop

I honestly was shocked by that pick. Ponder has not shown to be a winner (meaning come from behind victories) each time he had a chance to win the game he has failed. Ponder loves to check down even if there are options down field. Get use to being frustrated by a lack of a vertical game but you never know he might become a solid starter.

I doubt it.

Yeah I watched Florida State 3 times last year and in 2 of them Ponder blew it for them.

Once he fumbled the ball at the 1 going in for the winning score.

Another time he ran a boot late in the game and could have ran in the go ahead TD or hit the wide open rb for the go ahead score. He chose option C chuck it at the wide open RBs ankles.

Galaxy · 04-28-2011, 10:58 PM

A new drinking game, every time Andy Dalton is mentioned, you take a shot. You'll likely be drunk within 2 picks though.

Izulde · 04-28-2011, 11:00 PM

Did the Ravens just miss their pick?

bhlloy · 04-28-2011, 11:00 PM

Jimmy Smith is insane value right here. There are some red flags but you are getting a top 10 talent at the end of the first. Sitting next to Rosenhaus probably doesn't help his stock too much mind.

Noop · 04-28-2011, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by bhlloy

Jimmy Smith is insane value right here. There are some red flags but you are getting a top 10 talent at the end of the first. Sitting next to Rosenhaus probably doesn't help his stock too much mind.

Jimmy is pretty good. He seems like the type who would excel in New England.

Comey · 04-28-2011, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Izulde

Did the Ravens just miss their pick?

They have AT&T.

jbergey22 · 04-28-2011, 11:04 PM

Ravens pulling out something from Minnesotas bag of tricks.

04-28-2011, 09:30 PM	#162
Noop Bonafide Seminole Fan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Miami	Ponder? That is a shocker and even though I am a Florida State fan I don't like the pick. __________________ Subby's favorite woman hater.

04-28-2011, 09:37 PM	#168
Noop Bonafide Seminole Fan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Miami	The Dolphins made a decent pick. He will make our line solid in the middle but he is no where near as good as his brother. Grade: -B/B __________________ Subby's favorite woman hater.

04-28-2011, 09:39 PM	#169
Noop Bonafide Seminole Fan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Miami	Mel Kiper needs to stop sucking Andy Dalton's dick. He must owe Dalton's agent a favor or something because he keeps pimping this kid. __________________ Subby's favorite woman hater.

04-28-2011, 09:50 PM	#173
Galaxy Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2005	Great day for the Bills. Newton went No. 1 and Ponder went No. 12 (who I guess Chan Gailey really was interested in). Hopefully they can do something good with that No. 35 pick. Last edited by Galaxy : 04-28-2011 at 09:50 PM.

04-28-2011, 10:01 PM	#177
RedKingGold College Starter Join Date: Oct 2002	He's a fcking Solder! Last edited by RedKingGold : 04-28-2011 at 10:07 PM.*

04-28-2011, 09:22 PM	#151
remper Mascot Join Date: Jan 2008	WHAT!? Fairley to the Lions!!

04-28-2011, 09:22 PM	#152
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	Great value for the Lions there. They must have been absolutely pissing themselves when Minnesota went ahead of them just to take Ponder.

04-28-2011, 09:28 PM	#157
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	I'm guessing Seattle or somebody will be trading up to get Dalton now. I think these trades up to get QB prospects with a lot of questions is more of a reaction to how poor the overall QB talent is in the NFL now-and all the injuries they had last season than anything else.

04-28-2011, 09:29 PM	#158
Galaxy Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2005	Seriously, who sat around and decided: "You know what will make for better television and our viewers will love?" "Ruining the suspense!"

04-28-2011, 09:29 PM	#160
Warhammer Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Dayton, OH	WHY?!?!?! Rams need offense, not D...

04-28-2011, 09:30 PM	#161
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	Is this draft just a joke by the owners with their draft strategy? Ponder and Locker in round 1?

04-28-2011, 09:35 PM	#165
Warhammer Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Dayton, OH	Redskins get Mallet at 16?

04-28-2011, 09:36 PM	#166
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	And in Miami Chad Henne and my man Tyler Thigpen breath a sigh of relief.

04-28-2011, 09:40 PM	#170
bronconick College Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Kalamazoo, MI	Is Dalton's agent the same as Clausen's last year?

04-28-2011, 09:44 PM	#171
Crapshoot Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2003	Its fascinating - given the lockout, rookies at positions requiring a lot of learning (QB, OT, MLB) are probably at a severe disadvantage in terms of not being able to know the plays / packages - I wonder if in the short-term, that incentivizes atheletes types - be it an RB, a CB, or a pass-rusher type.

04-28-2011, 09:45 PM	#172
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	The Redskins got an extra second round pick for their trade down with Jacksonville? Good trade for them (unfortunately).

04-28-2011, 09:50 PM	#174
sovereignstar v2 hates iowa Join Date: Oct 2010	Yeah. So I just realized the draft was on tonight. lol

04-28-2011, 09:50 PM	#175
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	nice to see the Redskins pass on character issues Mallet (for now at least) given all the trouble they had there last season (and now again with Haynesworth)

04-28-2011, 10:04 PM	#178
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Thrilled about the Giants taking Prince

04-28-2011, 10:04 PM	#179
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Did someone try to gift wrap Prince's mom/relative? __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

04-28-2011, 10:09 PM	#181
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	I wish they'd pick "character issues" as the biggest overused sports cliche. __________________ Current dynasty: OOTP25 Blitz: RTS meets Moneyball \| OOTP Mod: GM Excel Competitive Balance Tax/Revenue Sharing Calc \| FBCB Mods on Github

04-28-2011, 10:16 PM	#184
Mustang Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Wisconsin	Any number of players that I'd be happy for the Packers to take at 32. (DL/OL) __________________ You, you will regret what you have done this day. I will make you regret ever being born. Your going to wish you never left your mothers womb, where it was warm and safe... and wet. i am going to show you pain you never knew existed, you are going to see a whole new spectrum of pain, like a Rainboooow. But! This rainbow is not just like any other rainbow, its...

04-28-2011, 10:20 PM	#185
jbergey22 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Minnesota	Its really sad that so many teams have yet to figure out draft value. Fuck you Vikings! You could have had Ponder, Dalton, or Mallet in the 2nd found and gotten Fairly in the first. Instead you get some weak armed career backup QB and let a division rival overtake you for best Interior DLine in the division. Its safe to say the Vikings planned on getting Locker and were a fish out of water when it couldnt happen. Damn fools! Last edited by jbergey22 : 04-28-2011 at 10:25 PM.

04-28-2011, 10:34 PM	#187
Galaxy Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2005	They should let one of the guys announce the pick.

04-28-2011, 10:39 PM	#188
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Cool moment with the firefighter pick, probably the sidebar highlight of the night for me. (My dad was a volunteer for 20+ years, my brother-in-law is now a full-time pro, my niece is a volunteer & is working on her EMT certification as well). __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

04-28-2011, 10:49 PM	#191
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	Seriously, ESPN must be on commission if Dalton gets picked in the first. Kiper just suggested him as a possible Saints pick (I think they have a QB already) and now Schefter mentioned him as one of the best players left on the board.

04-28-2011, 10:55 PM	#193
Izulde Head Coach Join Date: Sep 2004	I think the Dolphins got a solid pick with Pouncey. Was hoping we'd trade down, but shoring up our interior o-line works. __________________ 2006 Golden Scribe Nominee 2006 Golden Scribe Winner Best Non-Sport Dynasty: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty) Rookie Writer of the Year Dynasty of the Year: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty)

04-28-2011, 10:58 PM	#195
Galaxy Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2005	A new drinking game, every time Andy Dalton is mentioned, you take a shot. You'll likely be drunk within 2 picks though. Last edited by Galaxy : 04-28-2011 at 10:58 PM.

04-28-2011, 11:00 PM	#196
Izulde Head Coach Join Date: Sep 2004	Did the Ravens just miss their pick? __________________ 2006 Golden Scribe Nominee 2006 Golden Scribe Winner Best Non-Sport Dynasty: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty) Rookie Writer of the Year Dynasty of the Year: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty)

04-28-2011, 11:00 PM	#197
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	Jimmy Smith is insane value right here. There are some red flags but you are getting a top 10 talent at the end of the first. Sitting next to Rosenhaus probably doesn't help his stock too much mind.

04-28-2011, 11:04 PM	#200
jbergey22 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Minnesota	Ravens pulling out something from Minnesotas bag of tricks.

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