Front Office Football Central  

Go Back   Front Office Football Central > Main Forums > Werewolf Games
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read Statistics

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 07-20-2010, 09:54 PM   #151
Barkeep49
Coordinator
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Not too far away
Quote:
Originally Posted by EagleFan View Post
On the good side, that role wasn't one of the big ones for us.
Yes. It just means that the wolves can name each other as heirs with-out worry. Not a big deal.
Barkeep49 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2010, 09:56 PM   #152
Danny
Head Coach
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Quote:
Originally Posted by EagleFan View Post
Everything okay?

Yeah, thanks. Just a busy afternoon helping with some wedding stuff for my sister in law who's getting married this Saturday and then had to leave for class and forgot to come back and make a vote.
Danny is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2010, 09:59 PM   #153
DaddyTorgo
Hall Of Famer
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Massachusetts
GAH!!! What a short return for me!!!
__________________
Get bent whoever hacked my pw and changed my signature.
DaddyTorgo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2010, 10:01 PM   #154
EagleFan
Hall Of Famer
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA
Quote:
Originally Posted by Barkeep49 View Post
Yes. It just means that the wolves can name each other as heirs with-out worry. Not a big deal.

It beats losing the seer or bodyguard...
EagleFan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2010, 10:03 PM   #155
Barkeep49
Coordinator
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Not too far away
Agreed.
Barkeep49 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2010, 10:04 PM   #156
Chief Rum
Hall Of Famer
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Where Hip Hop lives
FYI... I work at my second job on Wednesday nights (unfortunately). The deadline will remain the same, but I will not be able to process results until late. So apologies in advance that you guys will have to wait a bit tomorrow night (more likely, read it in the morning, since I am on the West Coast).
__________________
.
.

I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.
Chief Rum is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2010, 10:18 PM   #157
J23
College Benchwarmer
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
I thought that role could have been very helpful for late game. At this point it will be much tougher to get a controlling interest in the hands of a friendly board member. Hopefully it doesn't come to that.

I still agree it's better than losing the seer/bg/etc, but want to make sure we keep our eye on the friendly ownership %.
J23 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2010, 10:18 PM   #158
DaddyTorgo
Hall Of Famer
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Massachusetts
GO VILLAGE!!!
__________________
Get bent whoever hacked my pw and changed my signature.
DaddyTorgo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2010, 10:44 PM   #159
EagleFan
Hall Of Famer
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA
I'll get us started...

vote hoops
EagleFan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2010, 11:05 PM   #160
hoopsguy
General Manager
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Chicago
EF, you remain my #1 suspect for a wolf. We had three men in the vote and I know I was clean. The wolves would have thought Schmidty was clean as well.

What are chances of three non-wolves in run-off?
Assuming two wolves out of 11 starting (cultist=villager for this math)

9/11*8/10*7/9 = 51% all villagers

Coin toss. But with two cleared in my eyes (me + Schmidty) you are 100% the wolf in that scenario. So I'm playing a 49% probability, plus a dose of gut on top of it.

VOTE EAGLEFAN
hoopsguy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2010, 11:07 PM   #161
EagleFan
Hall Of Famer
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA
Quote:
Originally Posted by hoopsguy View Post
EF, you remain my #1 suspect for a wolf. We had three men in the vote and I know I was clean. The wolves would have thought Schmidty was clean as well.

What are chances of three non-wolves in run-off?
Assuming two wolves out of 11 starting (cultist=villager for this math)

9/11*8/10*7/9 = 51% all villagers

Coin toss. But with two cleared in my eyes (me + Schmidty) you are 100% the wolf in that scenario. So I'm playing a 49% probability, plus a dose of gut on top of it.

VOTE EAGLEFAN

Funny, I was thinking the same thing about you...
EagleFan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2010, 11:13 PM   #162
hoopsguy
General Manager
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Chicago
Then I understand your vote, even if you didn't exactly break it down for me.
hoopsguy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2010, 11:52 PM   #163
EagleFan
Hall Of Famer
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA
Quote:
Originally Posted by hoopsguy View Post
Then I understand your vote, even if you didn't exactly break it down for me.

Barring a major reveal or slip by someone I would assume that we are going to be the two in the running for today's vote. At least at the start.
EagleFan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2010, 12:31 AM   #164
Darth Vilus
College Benchwarmer
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: SoCal
Let it be known that it was Lord Vilus who fist threw down Scmidty's name.

Darth Vilus = BAMF
__________________
"Two there should be; no more, no less. One to embody power, the other to crave it."
―Darth Bane

"Tell me what you regard as your greatest strength, so I will know how best to undermine you; tell me of your greatest fear, so I will know which I must force you to face; tell me what you cherish most, so I will know what to take from you; and tell me what you crave, so that I might deny you…"
―Darth Plagueis the Wise
Darth Vilus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2010, 12:36 AM   #165
EagleFan
Hall Of Famer
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA
Quote:
Originally Posted by Darth Vilus View Post
Let it be known that it was Lord Vilus who fist threw down Scmidty's name.

Darth Vilus = BAMF

BAMF?

Biggest
Ally
(and)
Microsoft
Friend
EagleFan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2010, 12:38 AM   #166
Darth Vilus
College Benchwarmer
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: SoCal
close, very close ef. but no :-)
__________________
"Two there should be; no more, no less. One to embody power, the other to crave it."
―Darth Bane

"Tell me what you regard as your greatest strength, so I will know how best to undermine you; tell me of your greatest fear, so I will know which I must force you to face; tell me what you cherish most, so I will know what to take from you; and tell me what you crave, so that I might deny you…"
―Darth Plagueis the Wise
Darth Vilus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2010, 12:47 AM   #167
Danny
Head Coach
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Vote EagleFan

I could definitely see a run off between Hoops and EF and I lean towards going this way between the two.
Danny is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2010, 01:33 AM   #168
Darth Vilus
College Benchwarmer
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: SoCal
danny, out of curiosty why did u vote so early?
__________________
"Two there should be; no more, no less. One to embody power, the other to crave it."
―Darth Bane

"Tell me what you regard as your greatest strength, so I will know how best to undermine you; tell me of your greatest fear, so I will know which I must force you to face; tell me what you cherish most, so I will know what to take from you; and tell me what you crave, so that I might deny you…"
―Darth Plagueis the Wise
Darth Vilus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2010, 01:45 AM   #169
EagleFan
Hall Of Famer
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA
Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny View Post
Vote EagleFan

I could definitely see a run off between Hoops and EF and I lean towards going this way between the two.

You lean in the wrong direction in that case. Not that hoops is actually the right direction but I know that I am the wrong direction.
EagleFan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2010, 02:48 AM   #170
Danny
Head Coach
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
I am leaning towards Hoops being a villager and EF I am in the middle on. I don't see my vote swinging towards Hoops, but it could be changed to a 3rd candidate potentially.
Danny is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2010, 06:51 AM   #171
henry296
College Starter
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
I think resolving the Hoops / EF situation is the best decision for today. However, I'm going to wait and see if there is further discussion before casting a vote today.
__________________
"It's a great day for hockey" - "Badger" Bob Johnson
henry296 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2010, 09:51 AM   #172
J23
College Benchwarmer
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
vote hoops

Tying it up before the corporate update today. I think it helps more than hurts us to see how the voting would go with a tie at deadline between these two.
J23 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2010, 10:28 AM   #173
Barkeep49
Coordinator
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Not too far away
Is there anything that jumps out at someone that we learn if hoops or EF is a wolf?
Barkeep49 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2010, 10:32 AM   #174
hoopsguy
General Manager
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Chicago
I'm not sure, BK. My initial thought was that you + illinifan were people that would be suspects for floating a new/late candidate with a wolf on the block. But with Schmidty as cultist (villager in wolf eyes) and me as a villager, there were already two viable options in front of them to target so I'm not sure they needed a third.
hoopsguy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2010, 12:37 PM   #175
Barkeep49
Coordinator
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Not too far away
I hope the corporate secretary can keep up with all of the discussion today.
Barkeep49 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2010, 01:16 PM   #176
J23
College Benchwarmer
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
I'm in and out today, but not really sure how much we can draw from yesterday's votes given the wolves wouldn't have known Schmidty's role either.
J23 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2010, 01:39 PM   #177
Darth Vilus
College Benchwarmer
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: SoCal
i don't have much time, I'll have to leave in about 40 min. just checking thngs out right now
__________________
"Two there should be; no more, no less. One to embody power, the other to crave it."
―Darth Bane

"Tell me what you regard as your greatest strength, so I will know how best to undermine you; tell me of your greatest fear, so I will know which I must force you to face; tell me what you cherish most, so I will know what to take from you; and tell me what you crave, so that I might deny you…"
―Darth Plagueis the Wise
Darth Vilus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2010, 01:43 PM   #178
hoopsguy
General Manager
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Chicago
Are people waiting around for the (ChiefRum's) daily stock report? Or is there something else that has kept this thread as quiet as it is up to this point?

Not that yesterday was extremely busy, but today has been even more muted.
hoopsguy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2010, 01:51 PM   #179
Darth Vilus
College Benchwarmer
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: SoCal
Everyone is in awe of my aweomeness
__________________
"Two there should be; no more, no less. One to embody power, the other to crave it."
―Darth Bane

"Tell me what you regard as your greatest strength, so I will know how best to undermine you; tell me of your greatest fear, so I will know which I must force you to face; tell me what you cherish most, so I will know what to take from you; and tell me what you crave, so that I might deny you…"
―Darth Plagueis the Wise
Darth Vilus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2010, 02:02 PM   #180
Darth Vilus
College Benchwarmer
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: SoCal
I guess
__________________
"Two there should be; no more, no less. One to embody power, the other to crave it."
―Darth Bane

"Tell me what you regard as your greatest strength, so I will know how best to undermine you; tell me of your greatest fear, so I will know which I must force you to face; tell me what you cherish most, so I will know what to take from you; and tell me what you crave, so that I might deny you…"
―Darth Plagueis the Wise
Darth Vilus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2010, 02:04 PM   #181
Darth Vilus
College Benchwarmer
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: SoCal
Vote EagleFan

Whoops, hit enter by mistake. Not really sure on either one but I'd pick him over Hoops
__________________
"Two there should be; no more, no less. One to embody power, the other to crave it."
―Darth Bane

"Tell me what you regard as your greatest strength, so I will know how best to undermine you; tell me of your greatest fear, so I will know which I must force you to face; tell me what you cherish most, so I will know what to take from you; and tell me what you crave, so that I might deny you…"
―Darth Plagueis the Wise
Darth Vilus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2010, 02:11 PM   #182
Chief Rum
Hall Of Famer
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Where Hip Hop lives
Vote Tally (As of Post #179)

hoopsguy-- EagleFan (159), J23 (172)
EagleFan-- hoopsguy (160), Danny (167)

__________________
.
.

I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.
Chief Rum is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2010, 02:11 PM   #183
hoopsguy
General Manager
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Chicago
A vote for EF, over me, is a sign of awesomeness in my book.
A vote for EF, over anyone else in this game, is pretty good in my book.
A vote for EF, in the abstract, is never a bad pick.
hoopsguy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2010, 02:15 PM   #184
Chief Rum
Hall Of Famer
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Where Hip Hop lives
A day has passed, but has much changed?

As the board breaks for lunch, it is with the same silence that seemed to prevade board deliberations on Day One. Yet again, few have actually spoken out on who they believe is a conspirator.

And yet again, of the few that have cast a vote, it seems likely that Eaglefan will be forced to resign if things stay as they are.

Will another take his place by the eevening? Stay tuned...
__________________
.
.

I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.
Chief Rum is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2010, 02:16 PM   #185
Chief Rum
Hall Of Famer
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Where Hip Hop lives
Vote Tally (As of Post #184)

hoopsguy-- EagleFan (159), J23 (172)
EagleFan-- hoopsguy (160), Danny (167), Darth Vilus (181)

__________________
.
.

I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.
Chief Rum is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2010, 02:17 PM   #186
hoopsguy
General Manager
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Chicago
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chief Rum View Post
Vote Tally (As of Post #184)

hoopsguy-- EagleFan (159), J23 (172)
EagleFan-- hoopsguy (160), Danny (167), Darth Vilus (181)


Does post #184 reflect this vote total or the one prior to the DV vote?
hoopsguy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2010, 02:43 PM   #187
J23
College Benchwarmer
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
I was assuming it is the 2-2 vote that was being used for the report.

Given that EF would be the one going home, that would mean Hoops or Danny have EF as their enemy and neither EF or myself have hoops as our enemy.

Neither Hoops or Danny was on Schmidty last night, so they couldn't have gotten extra voting power from his removal. EF and I were both on Schmidty last night, so if he was one of our enemies, oneof us could potentially have 1.5 votes, however this wouldn't be enough to tip the balance given that you get 2 votes on your enemy.
J23 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2010, 02:46 PM   #188
ntndeacon
Pro Starter
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Alabama
I think a third candidate might help as I am never all that comfortable with the ones we pick on day one. Other than that there is only a vague feeling with this person as of yet.
Vote henry
ntndeacon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2010, 02:55 PM   #189
illinifan999
Pro Rookie
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: VA
Not sure what to think at this point. Hoops is going after EF very, very hard. Not sure if that's because he's his enemy, or if he knows something everyone else doesn't know. I wouldn't think it would be a wolf play, because if EF is found to be a villager, hoops would look quite suspicious.
__________________
Chicago Eagles
2 time ZFL champions
We're "rebuilding"
illinifan999 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2010, 03:09 PM   #190
J23
College Benchwarmer
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
unvote hoops

As I said before, I wanted to see what the tie result would give us.
J23 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2010, 03:19 PM   #191
hoopsguy
General Manager
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Chicago
Quote:
Originally Posted by illinifan999 View Post
Not sure what to think at this point. Hoops is going after EF very, very hard. Not sure if that's because he's his enemy, or if he knows something everyone else doesn't know. I wouldn't think it would be a wolf play, because if EF is found to be a villager, hoops would look quite suspicious.

Yep, I can't see much wolf/Microsoft upside to what I'm doing either. But I do want to emphasize - if another player has something damning then I'll certainly do that rather than chase after my Day 1 play. I think my approach has considerably merit, but it would clearly be trumped by the CEO identifying someone disloyal to our company.
hoopsguy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2010, 03:37 PM   #192
J23
College Benchwarmer
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Quote:
Originally Posted by hoopsguy View Post
Yep, I can't see much wolf/Microsoft upside to what I'm doing either.

It could always be a play by the cunning trying to get scanned.
J23 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2010, 03:41 PM   #193
Barkeep49
Coordinator
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Not too far away
Ok here's what I can tell of enemies so far:

DT"s enemy was hoops
Rationale: hoops had 2 votes on him, but DT was the only remaining voter

Hoop's enemy is EF
Rationale: EF had 2 voters on him yesterday, Schmidty and Hoops, but 3 points. Schmidty is now dead. EF has 2 voters on him today but would win the tie breaker. Again hoops is on him. So is Danny who cannot possibly be the tie breaker as his vote is worth only .75 today. So The only way EF is in the lead is if hoops vote is counting for extra.

Danny's enemy is either me or illini
Rationale: Danny had 3 points on him, but only 2 voters

Schmidty's enemy was DV, ntn, or henry
Rationale: EF and J23 can be eliminated since both had vote against hoops but lost out on the tiebreaker.
Conjecture: It's DV based on his BAMF statement.
Barkeep49 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2010, 04:10 PM   #194
Chief Rum
Hall Of Famer
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Where Hip Hop lives
Quote:
Originally Posted by hoopsguy View Post
Does post #184 reflect this vote total or the one prior to the DV vote?

Sorry for the delayed response. This morning's writeup reflected the vote as of 11 a.m. PDT, so it did not include DV's vote at 11:04. That's why I did the vote tally first, and then the writeup.

Then after that was done, did a fully updated vote tally to show all votes to that point.
__________________
.
.

I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.
Chief Rum is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2010, 04:50 PM   #195
hoopsguy
General Manager
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Chicago
Quote:
Originally Posted by J23 View Post
It could always be a play by the cunning trying to get scanned.

Had a longer response that got eaten, not going to be that verbose in this version (probably good for those reading along )

Short version is that is not the case here. You can either believe that or not believe that. But for what it is worth, I don't think I would want to play it that way as the cunning. That role is a golden ticket in small games ... you either are going to get scanned or not scanned, and it is fine either way. So why create unnecessary waves?
hoopsguy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2010, 05:07 PM   #196
Barkeep49
Coordinator
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Not too far away
Wait a second. What way wouldn't you play cunning?
Barkeep49 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2010, 05:29 PM   #197
illinifan999
Pro Rookie
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: VA
I'm not convinced hoopsguy is a wolf. I feel like EF is getting tossed because he's hoop's enemy.

vote henry

I'm very open to changing my vote, but I'm going to follow ntndeacon's idea of adding a third competitor for now.
__________________
Chicago Eagles
2 time ZFL champions
We're "rebuilding"
illinifan999 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2010, 05:42 PM   #198
J23
College Benchwarmer
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Quote:
Originally Posted by Barkeep49 View Post
Ok here's what I can tell of enemies so far:

Danny's enemy is either me or illini
Rationale: Danny had 3 points on him, but only 2 voters

Schmidty's enemy was DV, ntn, or henry
Rationale: EF and J23 can be eliminated since both had vote against hoops but lost out on the tiebreaker.
Conjecture: It's DV based on his BAMF statement.


I believe both of these are incorrect. They should read:

Danny is the enemy of BK or Illini.
Schmidty was the enemy of DV, ntn or henry.
J23 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2010, 05:53 PM   #199
hoopsguy
General Manager
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Chicago
Quote:
Originally Posted by Barkeep49 View Post
Wait a second. What way wouldn't you play cunning?

Hyper-aggressive. I'll never "blend", regardless of role, but I don't think I would go out of my way to create showdowns with players on Day 2. The cunning role is a monster in a small game like this, in my opinion. You have to do what you can to lower risk of attracting votes with it, and pushing to the voting forefront certainly does not accomplish that.
hoopsguy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2010, 06:24 PM   #200
EagleFan
Hall Of Famer
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA
Quote:
Originally Posted by hoopsguy View Post
Hyper-aggressive. I'll never "blend", regardless of role, but I don't think I would go out of my way to create showdowns with players on Day 2. The cunning role is a monster in a small game like this, in my opinion. You have to do what you can to lower risk of attracting votes with it, and pushing to the voting forefront certainly does not accomplish that.

The problem is that we have seen such varied wolf play lately that you can't really buy any of the "a wolf wouldn't do that" arguements. Once we saw the wolves sacrifice their cunning on day one several games back it pretty much left any play open to being a possible wolf play.
EagleFan is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:19 AM.



Powered by vBulletin Version 3.6.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.