2017 College Football Season thread - Page 4

tarcone · 09-02-2017, 10:43 PM

The 2 calls during the Florida/UM game were very well done. They reviewed each targeting call and deemed them not targeting.

I thought those were done very well.

Like you said, reffing is so subjective. And, honestly, I think the refs are trying to stay out of the Ala/FSU game as much as possible.

CrescentMoonie · 09-02-2017, 10:53 PM

There's the upset for the day, Liberty 48-45 over Baylor. I like Matt Rhule, but he's got a lot of work to do on the defensive side of the ball.

Thomkal · 09-02-2017, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by CrescentMoonie

There's the upset for the day, Liberty 48-45 over Baylor. I like Matt Rhule, but he's got a lot of work to do on the defensive side of the ball.

woot Big South!

General Mike · 09-02-2017, 11:01 PM

aren't Liberty moving up to FBS?

Edit: Next year is their first in FBS

CrescentMoonie · 09-02-2017, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by General Mike

aren't Liberty moving up to FBS?

The announcers said they were transitioning next year.

CrescentMoonie · 09-02-2017, 11:04 PM

Turner Gill now has as many Big 12 wins with Liberty (1) as he did in two seasons with Kansas (1).
— Jake Trotter (@Jake_Trotter) September 3, 2017

CU Tiger · 09-02-2017, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by CrescentMoonie

Charlie Strong was obviously the problem.

Charlie's biggest problem in Austin was his excess melanin

CrescentMoonie · 09-02-2017, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by CU Tiger

Charlie's biggest problem in Austin was his excess melanin

Undoubtedly.

cuervo72 · 09-02-2017, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal

woot Big South!

Boo Fallwell-founded Liberty.

JonInMiddleGA · 09-02-2017, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by CrescentMoonie

The announcers said they were transitioning next year.

Shouldn't they just self-identify as D1 and that be good enough?

(Sorry, the use of the word transitioning considering the school in question made some sort of joke almost obligatory

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Edward64 · 09-02-2017, 11:35 PM

FSU QB hurt. Does not look good.

Thomkal · 09-02-2017, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by cuervo72

Boo Fallwell-founded Liberty.

yeah not too thrilled they won, but have to honor old allegiances

bronconick · 09-03-2017, 12:14 AM

FSU has a top 5 defense, a 130th ranked special teams unit, and a true freshman at QB for the foreseeable future. 8-4 is now the likely result.

MrBug708 · 09-03-2017, 01:43 AM

100 dollars on Howard to win would have paid 55,000. Biggest upset as far as odds go, in CFB history

JonInMiddleGA · 09-03-2017, 01:53 AM

I hope Francois is okay. Good looking young QB.

CrescentMoonie · 09-03-2017, 07:06 AM

You would think it would be easy to recruit to UNLV.

tarcone · 09-03-2017, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by CrescentMoonie

You would think it would be easy to recruit to UNLV.

You would think.

So many amenities and so close to Socal.

Butter · 09-03-2017, 08:25 AM

They need a guy in there like Tark or Petrino. Damn the red flags, damn the rules.

I saw Howard was up at half but then UNLV took the lead early second half and figured they had turned it around.

CrescentMoonie · 09-03-2017, 09:33 AM

Completely missed that ECU lost by 20 to James Madison. Scottie Montgomery might be a 2 season coach if he doesn't fix that right away.

MrBug708 · 09-03-2017, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by CrescentMoonie

You would think it would be easy to recruit to UNLV.

It is. They took a lot of money from the Fertigs and hired the Bishop Gorman coach.

CrescentMoonie · 09-03-2017, 10:36 AM

That was Mike London's debut as the Howard coach. Apparently FCS coaching is his thing.

murrayyyyy · 09-03-2017, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708

It is. They took a lot of money from the Fertigs and hired the Bishop Gorman coach.

The problem is that Gorman didn't have to go by any recruiting rules like UNLV does. Gorman has been pulling in talent from other states for Sanchez (and now his brother) for a long time and now he can't cheat the same way he could at the high school level.

He was given a 3 year extension before the AD left this summer so he's here through 2021 probably. Cam Newton's younger brother tore them up last night. Shooty hoops can't get here soon enough but at least they didn't change the logo... aw crap...

MrBug708 · 09-03-2017, 11:57 AM

I wouldn't even call it cheating, high schools can recruit out of state no problem.

BYU 14 · 09-03-2017, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708

I wouldn't even call it cheating, high schools can recruit out of state no problem.

In what state?

High Schools under any jurisdiction I know of are not allowed to actively recruit. The out of state work around is that a transfer doesn't have to sit out, so yeah, a parent could talk to a parent and say they think coach _____ would love to have a kid like yours, etc, etc.

High School Football has gotten dirtier every year I have been involved. Those willing to do the wrong thing because glory is more important than ethics amount to a small minority of coaches, but are doing a lot of damage per capita.

JonInMiddleGA · 09-03-2017, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by BYU 14

In what state?

I know it's against the rules in Georgia to recruit from another in-state school. Off hand I'm not sure it's prohibited to recruit out of state however. You can't offer benefits, but ...

Then again, realistically, the top programs really don't seem to have to do much recruiting once you get there. Not sure "build it and they will come" is more true anywhere than in HS athletics. And I'm not really bothered by that.

The only reason we're where we are is because a school here offered a better opportunity for my child's needs & abilities than where we were. In our case that was academics but, if we're acknowledging that kids have talents in different areas, I'd be loathe to do much to restrict a talented athlete or musician or whatever any more than I'd restrict the opportunities for a talented scholar.

JonInMiddleGA · 09-03-2017, 07:17 PM

Francois reportedly done for the year, patellar tendon surgery coming as early as Tuesday according to various accounts.

Meanwhile Bama lost a starting LB for the year AND a backup LB for the year.

CrescentMoonie · 09-03-2017, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

I know it's against the rules in Georgia to recruit from another in-state school. Off hand I'm not sure it's prohibited to recruit out of state however. You can't offer benefits, but ...

Then again, realistically, the top programs really don't seem to have to do much recruiting once you get there. Not sure "build it and they will come" is more true anywhere than in HS athletics. And I'm not really bothered by that.

The only reason we're where we are is because a school here offered a better opportunity for my child's needs & abilities than where we were. In our case that was academics but, if we're acknowledging that kids have talents in different areas, I'd be loathe to do much to restrict a talented athlete or musician or whatever any more than I'd restrict the opportunities for a talented scholar.

The high schools in my area allow free transfer, and what amounts to recruiting of middle school kids, and they've each got academic specialties. Like you said, a lot of it here gets used to kids who want to go a certain academic route, but the coaches definitely recruit by selling kids on their team and then giving them talking points to get approved for the school.

CrescentMoonie · 09-03-2017, 07:38 PM

Time to see if Rosen is still as bad as I think he is.

MrBug708 · 09-03-2017, 07:46 PM

He won't last long if people go for his knees. Looked pretty good on the first drive

tarcone · 09-03-2017, 08:19 PM

We have a HS that recruits Illinois kids. Some of the public schools are starting to remove them from their schedule.

CrescentMoonie · 09-03-2017, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708

He won't last long if people go for his knees. Looked pretty good on the first drive

We have different definitions of good. He's been okay on plays where he wasn't rushed (5-9, 26 yards). He's been awful on plays where he was rushed (1-5, 9 yards).

Eaglesfan27 · 09-03-2017, 08:40 PM

UCLA looks about as bad as I expected.

Butter · 09-03-2017, 08:57 PM

So you are allowed to just roll into the end zone when you down a punt, but it gets put back at the spot where you first got control of it? Ok.

MrBug708 · 09-03-2017, 09:18 PM

Rosen hurt. UCLA didn't deserve him and he should just sit out

Atocep · 09-03-2017, 10:28 PM

Refs are getting themselves way too involved in the WVU/Tech game.

MizzouRah · 09-03-2017, 10:44 PM

UCLA on the comeback.. that should have been an INT though.. wow.

CrescentMoonie · 09-03-2017, 10:47 PM

aTm may have taken their foot off the gas and Rosen is getting some serious Matt Stafford points.

MrBug708 · 09-03-2017, 11:04 PM

It's pretty easy to see Rosen is elite. Some of these throws...wow

CrescentMoonie · 09-03-2017, 11:04 PM

Two straight UCLA TDs that should have been picked off, but kudos to them for even being in position to make the plays.

bronconick · 09-03-2017, 11:05 PM

This UCLA-A&M game is one of the ones where everyone should be fired

CrescentMoonie · 09-03-2017, 11:15 PM

This drive is showing the potential and reality of Rosen here pretty well. A couple of really good throws, a near INT right into the gut of a defender, a delay of game right after that, and a false start because he wasn't patient enough to let everyone get set. Then he follows it with the fake spike and perfect TD pass.

MizzouRah · 09-03-2017, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708

It's pretty easy to see Rosen is elite. Some of these throws...wow

The guy has been amazing with some of these throws!

murrayyyyy · 09-03-2017, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by bronconick

This UCLA-A&M game is one of the ones where everyone should be fired

Can you fire Sumlin for having his starting QB going down up 44-10? (think that is when it happened)

Easy Mac · 09-03-2017, 11:23 PM

So, what 1-AA school is Sumlin rehabbing his image at next year?

Easy Mac · 09-03-2017, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by murrayyyyy

Can you fire Sumlin for having his starting QB going down up 44-10? (think that is when it happened)

You can fire him for recruiting a backup who has literally never touched a football before.

murrayyyyy · 09-03-2017, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy Mac

So, what 1-AA school is Sumlin rehabbing his image at next year?

UNLV

JonInMiddleGA · 09-03-2017, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by murrayyyyy

UNLV

UNLV deserves better than that.

murrayyyyy · 09-03-2017, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

UNLV deserves better than that.

This isn't shooty hoops. He's exactly who UNLV football deserves.

JonInMiddleGA · 09-03-2017, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by murrayyyyy

Can you fire Sumlin for having his starting QB going down up 44-10? (think that is when it happened)

That QB doesn't play defense.

Then again, neither does A&M.

bronconick · 09-03-2017, 11:29 PM

Well, Sumlin is a dead man walking

09-02-2017, 10:43 PM	#151
tarcone Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pacific	The 2 calls during the Florida/UM game were very well done. They reviewed each targeting call and deemed them not targeting. I thought those were done very well. Like you said, reffing is so subjective. And, honestly, I think the refs are trying to stay out of the Ala/FSU game as much as possible. __________________ Excuses are for wusses- Spencer Lee Punting is Winning- Tory Taylor The word is Fight! Fight! Fight! For Iowa FOFC 30 Dollar Challenge Champion-OOTP '15

09-02-2017, 11:01 PM	#154
General Mike Pro Starter Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: The State of Rutgers	aren't Liberty moving up to FBS? Edit: Next year is their first in FBS Last edited by General Mike : 09-02-2017 at 11:02 PM.

09-02-2017, 11:04 PM	#156
CrescentMoonie College Starter Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Earth, the semi-final frontier.	Turner Gill now has as many Big 12 wins with Liberty (1) as he did in two seasons with Kansas (1). — Jake Trotter (@Jake_Trotter) September 3, 2017

09-03-2017, 01:53 AM	#165
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	I hope Francois is okay. Good looking young QB. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

09-03-2017, 08:25 AM	#168
Butter Coordinator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Dayton, OH	They need a guy in there like Tark or Petrino. Damn the red flags, damn the rules. I saw Howard was up at half but then UNLV took the lead early second half and figured they had turned it around. __________________ My listening habits

09-02-2017, 10:53 PM	#152
CrescentMoonie College Starter Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Earth, the semi-final frontier.	There's the upset for the day, Liberty 48-45 over Baylor. I like Matt Rhule, but he's got a lot of work to do on the defensive side of the ball.

09-02-2017, 11:35 PM	#161
Edward64 Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2005	FSU QB hurt. Does not look good.

09-03-2017, 12:14 AM	#163
bronconick College Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Kalamazoo, MI	FSU has a top 5 defense, a 130th ranked special teams unit, and a true freshman at QB for the foreseeable future. 8-4 is now the likely result.

09-03-2017, 01:43 AM	#164
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	100 dollars on Howard to win would have paid 55,000. Biggest upset as far as odds go, in CFB history

09-03-2017, 07:06 AM	#166
CrescentMoonie College Starter Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Earth, the semi-final frontier.	You would think it would be easy to recruit to UNLV.

09-03-2017, 09:33 AM	#169
CrescentMoonie College Starter Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Earth, the semi-final frontier.	Completely missed that ECU lost by 20 to James Madison. Scottie Montgomery might be a 2 season coach if he doesn't fix that right away.

09-03-2017, 10:36 AM	#171
CrescentMoonie College Starter Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Earth, the semi-final frontier.	That was Mike London's debut as the Howard coach. Apparently FCS coaching is his thing.

09-03-2017, 11:57 AM	#173
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	I wouldn't even call it cheating, high schools can recruit out of state no problem.

09-03-2017, 07:17 PM	#176
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Francois reportedly done for the year, patellar tendon surgery coming as early as Tuesday according to various accounts. Meanwhile Bama lost a starting LB for the year AND a backup LB for the year. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

09-03-2017, 07:38 PM	#178
CrescentMoonie College Starter Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Earth, the semi-final frontier.	Time to see if Rosen is still as bad as I think he is.

09-03-2017, 07:46 PM	#179
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	He won't last long if people go for his knees. Looked pretty good on the first drive

09-03-2017, 08:19 PM	#180
tarcone Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pacific	We have a HS that recruits Illinois kids. Some of the public schools are starting to remove them from their schedule. __________________ Excuses are for wusses- Spencer Lee Punting is Winning- Tory Taylor The word is Fight! Fight! Fight! For Iowa FOFC 30 Dollar Challenge Champion-OOTP '15

09-03-2017, 08:40 PM	#182
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	UCLA looks about as bad as I expected. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

09-03-2017, 08:57 PM	#183
Butter Coordinator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Dayton, OH	So you are allowed to just roll into the end zone when you down a punt, but it gets put back at the spot where you first got control of it? Ok. __________________ My listening habits

09-03-2017, 09:18 PM	#184
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Rosen hurt. UCLA didn't deserve him and he should just sit out

09-03-2017, 10:28 PM	#185
Atocep Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Puyallup, WA	Refs are getting themselves way too involved in the WVU/Tech game.

09-03-2017, 10:44 PM	#186
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	UCLA on the comeback.. that should have been an INT though.. wow.

09-03-2017, 10:47 PM	#187
CrescentMoonie College Starter Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Earth, the semi-final frontier.	aTm may have taken their foot off the gas and Rosen is getting some serious Matt Stafford points.

09-03-2017, 11:04 PM	#188
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	It's pretty easy to see Rosen is elite. Some of these throws...wow

09-03-2017, 11:04 PM	#189
CrescentMoonie College Starter Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Earth, the semi-final frontier.	Two straight UCLA TDs that should have been picked off, but kudos to them for even being in position to make the plays.

09-03-2017, 11:05 PM	#190
bronconick College Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Kalamazoo, MI	This UCLA-A&M game is one of the ones where everyone should be fired

09-03-2017, 11:15 PM	#191
CrescentMoonie College Starter Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Earth, the semi-final frontier.	This drive is showing the potential and reality of Rosen here pretty well. A couple of really good throws, a near INT right into the gut of a defender, a delay of game right after that, and a false start because he wasn't patient enough to let everyone get set. Then he follows it with the fake spike and perfect TD pass.

09-03-2017, 11:23 PM	#194
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	So, what 1-AA school is Sumlin rehabbing his image at next year?

09-03-2017, 11:29 PM	#200
bronconick College Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Kalamazoo, MI	Well, Sumlin is a dead man walking

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