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Old 01-14-2008, 10:25 PM   #151
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RA, can you please refrain from voting untiol night actions are processed. They will be done shortly
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Old 01-14-2008, 10:30 PM   #152
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You all wake up in the morning and head downstairs for breakfast. Halfway through the meal you realize Neon Chaos is missing and suddenly hear a blood curling scream from the hotel. Word spreads quickly that a maid found Neon Chaos still in bed. Unfortunantly for him he was dead.

Day 2 has begun. Deadline 10:00 PM EST Tuesday night.

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Old 01-14-2008, 10:41 PM   #153
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So what's the thing about Schmidty? Is he not able to participate today?
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Old 01-14-2008, 10:42 PM   #154
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Just a note, I have class until 9:30 tomorrow so the results may be delayed. The 10:00 deadline is still effective
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Old 01-14-2008, 10:48 PM   #155
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So, what was Neon then?

I didn't even realize the night actions took place at the same time practically. Interesting way to go about it, I like it, moves the game along faster.

Anyhow, moving onto the next day.
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Old 01-14-2008, 10:51 PM   #156
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howled at any moons lately?
I've never seen anyone so defensive in stages where you really don't need to be defensive.

Of course I've only played this game twice.
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Old 01-14-2008, 10:54 PM   #157
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RA, can you please refrain from voting untiol night actions are processed. They will be done shortly

Ah sorry. I thought the night actions had been processed since Schmidty had been cut off from the bar.
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Old 01-14-2008, 11:02 PM   #158
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Well I'm real pleased. I think we got some good information for d1. A close vote is what you have to hope for.

Farah: Why the late switch? What was it about Schmidty that worried you?
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Old 01-14-2008, 11:14 PM   #159
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For some reason, I didn't think the end of day 1 was until tomorrow.

I screwed everything up, and I apologize. I have asked Lathum to withdraw me from the game.
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Old 01-14-2008, 11:24 PM   #160
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So, what was Neon then?

I didn't even realize the night actions took place at the same time practically. Interesting way to go about it, I like it, moves the game along faster.

Anyhow, moving onto the next day.

he was a guest.
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Old 01-14-2008, 11:33 PM   #161
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For some reason, I didn't think the end of day 1 was until tomorrow.

I screwed everything up, and I apologize. I have asked Lathum to withdraw me from the game.

relax. You didn't screw everything up. Even if you were the BG or the seer it wouldn't be "screwing everything up."
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Old 01-15-2008, 01:41 AM   #162
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Well, I normally would be strongly questioning Pass and Farrah about their Schmidty votes after what I said, but considering he didn't end up voting, I can't really say their votes are all that suspicious. I do it find it funny that there was an effort placed to putting a Schmidty-CR dynamic out there, just off of my vote. You guys are freakin' paranoid.

I was trying to figure out the Schmidty drunk thing, and I think it might be because he didn't vote. This is the punishment. Lathum even said that failing to vote gets you cut off from the bar, which is pretty much what happened to Schmidty (albeit it doesn't explain the drunkeness).

Lathum, is Schmidty going to be able to participate on Day Two?

As for the vote, not sure what to read on the back and forths except that there were a ton of them. It wouldn't shock me to find that there were a lot more interesting things going on there, but which won't be clear until later in the game.

In a CR change of schedule, I will be around for the deadline tomorrow after all, but not around Wednesday. My scheduler switched my normal shifts around this week. I will still be out most of the day at my main job, of course. But I will hold off on voting until I after I return.
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Old 01-15-2008, 02:43 AM   #163
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Old 01-15-2008, 03:04 AM   #164
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I died.
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Old 01-15-2008, 05:30 AM   #165
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Ok, I talked to Lathum, and will stay in the game, although I'll be pretty useless tomorrow since I can't vote.
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Old 01-15-2008, 07:23 AM   #166
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Ok..... so a nice start..... (me forgetting the deadline was 10 PM and all)
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Old 01-15-2008, 08:09 AM   #167
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So Neon was virtually silent this whole game. The only thing of note is that he voted for Render first. Perhaps the wolves were trying to set Render up? If so this would suggest they were not around at deadline to change the kill when it became clear Render was a top candidate.

Alternatively perhaps the wolves wanted to take out a quiet experienced player? Not sure what that suggests about who might be a wolf, but is an equal, if not better, explanation for Neon's death.
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Old 01-15-2008, 08:52 AM   #168
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Ok..... so a nice start..... (me forgetting the deadline was 10 PM and all)

I presume you're being facetious here...
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Old 01-15-2008, 08:53 AM   #169
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So Neon was virtually silent this whole game. The only thing of note is that he voted for Render first. Perhaps the wolves were trying to set Render up? If so this would suggest they were not around at deadline to change the kill when it became clear Render was a top candidate.

Alternatively perhaps the wolves wanted to take out a quiet experienced player? Not sure what that suggests about who might be a wolf, but is an equal, if not better, explanation for Neon's death.

Who would you say this points to BK? I ask because A) I'm not sure I like the DT vote potential of the day, B) I'm looking for other candidates and C) I wasn't around late and want to make sure you don't mean me (I'm never around for late deadlines)
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Old 01-15-2008, 08:54 AM   #170
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Lathum, is Schmidty going to be able to participate on Day Two?


I'm sorry but I can't answer that
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Old 01-15-2008, 08:54 AM   #171
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I presume you're being facetious here...

not at all, I got to work today, and was gonna see the votes.... and it was over
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Old 01-15-2008, 08:56 AM   #172
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Farah: Why the late switch? What was it about Schmidty that worried you?

Well at the time I was thinking he was trying to stay under the radar by not posting or voting until very last minute. That made me suspicious.

Now I see he just spaced on the deadline.
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Old 01-15-2008, 09:00 AM   #173
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Well at the time I was thinking he was trying to stay under the radar by not posting or voting until very last minute. That made me suspicious.

Now I see he just spaced on the deadline.
I think that's an entirely fair analysis. I feel better about Farrah than most at this point since I don't think a new wolf would have pulled that move and then given that reason.
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Old 01-15-2008, 09:06 AM   #174
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Hey, I made a post earlier, but it's not showing.

Basically, I talked to Lathum, and am back. I won't be of much use today though, since I can't post.
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Old 01-15-2008, 09:07 AM   #175
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Who would you say this points to BK? I ask because A) I'm not sure I like the DT vote potential of the day, B) I'm looking for other candidates and C) I wasn't around late and want to make sure you don't mean me (I'm never around for late deadlines)
I wasn't around at deadline either so I can't tell you who it might implicate. Anyone have any insight about who WAS here so we can start to suggest who wasn't?
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Old 01-15-2008, 09:45 AM   #176
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Well, I normally would be strongly questioning Pass and Farrah about their Schmidty votes after what I said, but considering he didn't end up voting, I can't really say their votes are all that suspicious. I do it find it funny that there was an effort placed to putting a Schmidty-CR dynamic out there, just off of my vote. You guys are freakin' paranoid.

I was trying to figure out the Schmidty drunk thing, and I think it might be because he didn't vote. This is the punishment. Lathum even said that failing to vote gets you cut off from the bar, which is pretty much what happened to Schmidty (albeit it doesn't explain the drunkeness).

Lathum, is Schmidty going to be able to participate on Day Two?

As for the vote, not sure what to read on the back and forths except that there were a ton of them. It wouldn't shock me to find that there were a lot more interesting things going on there, but which won't be clear until later in the game.

In a CR change of schedule, I will be around for the deadline tomorrow after all, but not around Wednesday. My scheduler switched my normal shifts around this week. I will still be out most of the day at my main job, of course. But I will hold off on voting until I after I return.

Pretty funny..throw some suspicion on CR, and all of a sudden, he's available on Tuesdays!
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Old 01-15-2008, 09:46 AM   #177
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Hey, I made a post earlier, but it's not showing.

Basically, I talked to Lathum, and am back. I won't be of much use today though, since I can't post.
I moved the post from the other thread into this one.

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Old 01-15-2008, 09:46 AM   #178
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I don't like to lead runs on BK on D1. Never works out well.

i don't think i have ever voted this person before, so might as well start now on D1

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Okay DT...you put a vote on me yesterday, and really only took it off for self-preservation. Are you planning to vote me again?
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Old 01-15-2008, 10:32 AM   #179
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I'm working an odd shift today but I'll be home before the deadline comes up. I'll peak in and out throughout the day probably though.

Anyhow, DT still is on my radar for all of his defensive moves. That's where I'm going to start and we'll see what happens throughout the day.

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Old 01-15-2008, 11:05 AM   #180
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So mauboy is voting for DT because of defensive moves, which seemed to come after he'd already been on the chopping block. What made people suspect him to begin with?
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Old 01-15-2008, 11:08 AM   #181
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IIRC, mauboy, myself, DT, Farrah and Lathum were in the thread at deadline. That may not be accurate.
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Old 01-15-2008, 11:13 AM   #182
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I still feel like he was being protected by CR, plus he didn't get a vote in yesterday. Whether there's a link between them or not, I think CR's actions have put him off the radar in a way, and we should look into that.
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Old 01-15-2008, 11:49 AM   #183
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I don't know if I'm ready to go for Schmidty, since he's got some form of lesser ability today, plus if we're looking at Schmidty based on CR's actions, why not just vote CR? He's at least around and would be a fair fight.
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Old 01-15-2008, 11:53 AM   #184
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I don't know if I'm ready to go for Schmidty, since he's got some form of lesser ability today, plus if we're looking at Schmidty based on CR's actions, why not just vote CR? He's at least around and would be a fair fight.

Schmidty's around -- he said he should be able to talk. Like I said, I'm softening on there being a link between Schmidty and CR. But I do think that CR's vote, and comments after it, have made people afraid to vote for Schmidty. I'm taking on the heat to even the playing field.
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Old 01-15-2008, 12:34 PM   #185
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So mauboy is voting for DT because of defensive moves, which seemed to come after he'd already been on the chopping block. What made people suspect him to begin with?

Some came before and some came after the fact. His opening statement was a bit silly too where he states he's a werewolf. Obviously a joke but sometimes obvious jokes could trigger some truth.
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Old 01-15-2008, 01:17 PM   #186
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The reason I voted for DT was just because he was a senior player and he hadn't been voted for yet.
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Old 01-15-2008, 01:18 PM   #187
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Something about this persons posts aren't sitting right with me. I get the sneaking suspicion DT is being strung up here. I'm not understanding the suspicion on him at all.

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Old 01-15-2008, 01:18 PM   #188
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People have been lynched in the past for calling themselves wolves, that is true.
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Old 01-15-2008, 01:18 PM   #189
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People have been lynched in the past for calling themselves wolves, that is true.

But were they actually wolves? That just seems all too ridiculous.
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Old 01-15-2008, 01:19 PM   #190
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The reason I voted for DT was just because he was a senior player and he hadn't been voted for yet.

So basically it was random then, is that correct?
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Old 01-15-2008, 01:25 PM   #191
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Wasn't there a game when DT said he was a wolf, and everyone was like 'yeah right' but then it turned out he was? I don't think he would try that tactic twice.
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Old 01-15-2008, 01:30 PM   #192
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Hey, I made a post earlier, but it's not showing.

Basically, I talked to Lathum, and am back. I won't be of much use today though, since I can't post.

Just looking back, and saw this. I think when I read it this morning, I thought it said he could post. Makes sense -- I usually don't wake up until after lunch.

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Old 01-15-2008, 01:32 PM   #193
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Some came before and some came after the fact. His opening statement was a bit silly too where he states he's a werewolf. Obviously a joke but sometimes obvious jokes could trigger some truth.

mauboy, can you explain which defensive moves he made before?
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Old 01-15-2008, 01:40 PM   #194
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So basically it was random then, is that correct?

Not entirely random. I was going to vote for someone who didn't check in by noon (mountain) yesterady, but everybody had. I then looked at the list of players and didn't want to vote for a new player, so I went randomly with a veteran player who hadn't received a vote.
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Old 01-15-2008, 01:40 PM   #195
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Wasn't there a game when DT said he was a wolf, and everyone was like 'yeah right' but then it turned out he was? I don't think he would try that tactic twice.
Indeed. And I've pushed hard a couple of games since then against DT when he's made other seemingly stupid remarks. All the other times he's been a villager. So I have given up going after him for it.
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Old 01-15-2008, 01:43 PM   #196
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Not entirely random. I was going to vote for someone who didn't check in by noon (mountain) yesterady, but everybody had. I then looked at the list of players and didn't want to vote for a new player, so I went randomly with a veteran player who hadn't received a vote.

Ok gotcha, that makes sense. I was just trying to determine if there was an "in-game" reason so-to-speak.

But yeah, I'm not really seeing the DT guilt. At least not enough to carry it over to today, but of course we don't have much no matter how you slice it.
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Old 01-15-2008, 01:44 PM   #197
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Something about this persons posts aren't sitting right with me. I get the sneaking suspicion DT is being strung up here. I'm not understanding the suspicion on him at all.

Vote Mauboy1

If you think DT is being strung up here, you should take a look at Farrah and Arlie. Also, I voted for DT as well as Mauboy at the same time, so why not choose to lynch me instead of him?

Anyhow, I don't think there was any doubt that RendeR would bite it yesterday, so our votes didn't make that much of a difference. Maybe we should look at who voted for RendeR (a known villager) as opposed to people who voted for an unknown quantity at this point.

In that respect I will
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Old 01-15-2008, 01:51 PM   #198
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If you think DT is being strung up here, you should take a look at Farrah and Arlie. Also, I voted for DT as well as Mauboy at the same time, so why not choose to lynch me instead of him?

Anyhow, I don't think there was any doubt that RendeR would bite it yesterday, so our votes didn't make that much of a difference. Maybe we should look at who voted for RendeR (a known villager) as opposed to people who voted for an unknown quantity at this point.

In that respect I will
UNVOTE DADDYTORGO

Oh I did consider you.
But you've explained yourself (I know it was after my vote for mau) but his whole "triggering the truth" thing caught the alarm.

Yeah, I didn't really consider Farrah she switched, I don't have much of a grasp of her style though so I counted her out.

Why Arlie? He voted RendeR. To me that isn't a death knell (since well, I voted RendeR too). Since I made the mistake I tend to use the thinking "well if I did, it's hard for me to then pin it on someone else for the same vote".
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Old 01-15-2008, 01:55 PM   #199
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Maybe we should look at who voted for RendeR (a known villager) as opposed to people who voted for an unknown quantity at this point.


I voted for RendeR. Looks like it was

Me
Neon - Dead
BK
Arles
DT

DT's was self-preservation, so count him out.
BK was the 2nd vote, I'm sure he'll 'splain himself

My vote was to push the action. IIRC I made it 3-1-1-1... (or 3-2-1-1-1...)
Basically I wanted to force either
A) No action, meaning RendeR was likely innocent
or
B) Action on other players in an effort to "save" RendeR.

We really didn't get either. It kind of band-wagoned a bit and no other likely candidate emerged.
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Old 01-15-2008, 01:55 PM   #200
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Random vote. The CR / Schmidty thing is too much of a stretch for me to actually think the Wolves are scheming that elaborately on day 1.

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Ok someone has to be the one to do it and I think his vote on me, and the time of the day, is as good of a reason as any to vote Render.

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Well, I'm about to split (20 minutes) and won't be back until morning. This spread is insane and so I'll push the issue

Unvote path12
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RendeR appears gone...and DT must look out for himself


UNVOTE MAUBOY

VOTE RENDER

Here are the votes on RendeR. Nothing appears to be "bad". The only questionable vote that I see is Arlie's vote which offers no explanation.
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