WW LXVI: Money Money Money (Game Over!)

[mauchow]

Vote sndvls

Getting in now since I'm going to be busy for the night and may or may not be able to check thread again. No reason to vote except that he said "Been wolf too many times, upping my bribe to max."

[path12]

I'm not bidding on anything today. And I'm in the camp that believes the Cutthroats are starting with anywhere from some to substantially more money than we are.

[The Jackal]

I doubt I'm going to bid on anything today. And as for my vote, it will come but likely be random.

I agree that the cutthroats probably have more money than us, but still, the bidding should be very interesting.

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by mauboy1

Vote sndvls

Getting in now since I'm going to be busy for the night and may or may not be able to check thread again. No reason to vote except that he said "Been wolf too many times, upping my bribe to max."

I think the rules state that a vote needs to be at the end of your post.

[Lathum]

Vote Swaggs

[Passacaglia]

I'll probably be checking in every so often, but I think it's important that we vote off Swaggs today, in this game more than others. Sorry if you read this Swaggs, but at this point, you're pretty unlikely to place a vote, and if someone else goes bankrupt and you stay with us, we're essentially losing the 15K that the person who actually voted would have made us (since you don't get the 15K if you don't vote).

VOTE SWAGGS

[RendeR]

Unfortunately swaggs seems to be persona non grata for this game, miht as well eliminate the problem early.


VOTE SWAGGS

[claphamsa]

Bah, we still got hours till we have to vote... Im to sick to go anywhere...

Im gonna bid high so! so I wont have no money left cutthroats, stay away.......

[Tyrith]

Bleh, hate this day one, but I'm inclined to go with the consensus. Even if he comes back now he's dead, because there is no particular reason to kill anyone else. Just in case though I'll hold off the trigger for now.

[Tyrith]

You have to imagine the wolves are going to bid a big chunk of money to get the avoid bankruptcy service. That's our only way to kill them for a long time. So I probably wouldn't even bother on that one, regardless.

[hoopsguy]

I understand the impulse to vote Swaggs - and it might even work out to our advantage (obviously only the Cutthroats have this knowledge right now) - but the more people that endorse this idea, the more nervous I get about the fact that he is Patsy #1 for this game.

[Tyrith]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

I understand the impulse to vote Swaggs - and it might even work out to our advantage (obviously only the Cutthroats have this knowledge right now) - but the more people that endorse this idea, the more nervous I get about the fact that he is Patsy #1 for this game.

Yeah, I know that feeling. But the problem is that the idea makes too much sense. The vote that strikes me as the worst is Lathum's hit and run that started the landslide, but after what you've said then who the heck knows what that means. Probably nothing, but it's a data point at least.

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by Tyrith

Yeah, I know that feeling. But the problem is that the idea makes too much sense. The vote that strikes me as the worst is Lathum's hit and run that started the landslide, but after what you've said then who the heck knows what that means. Probably nothing, but it's a data point at least.

For the record, I didn't see Lathum's post when I voted. Also, I don't think Lathum can really be blamed for starting the landslide. I think this is just a result of everyone waiting for a while to see if Swaggs would show up.

[Tyrith]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

For the record, I didn't see Lathum's post when I voted. Also, I don't think Lathum can really be blamed for starting the landslide. I think this is just a result of everyone waiting for a while to see if Swaggs would show up.

Probably. But it's at least the kind of thing that would be looked at more suspiciously in games with more normal rulesets...but I'm not about to go on some rant against anyone in it.

[Passacaglia]

Damn, 8 people in the thread.

[saldana]

the friend at the bank thin could be rather dangerous to allow the cutthroats to win, especially as the game goes on....when the pool of possible beneficiaries becomes more limited, they could start whacking people with large cash reserves in the bank with the hope that they are the receivers of the account balances.

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by Tyrith

Probably. But it's at least the kind of thing that would be looked at more suspiciously in games with more normal rulesets...but I'm not about to go on some rant against anyone in it.

Feel free! You might want to note that he also said he was thinking of voting for Swaggs this morning. I feel like this was pretty much the elephant in the room until Alan mentioned it, anyway -- we were all thinking of it, but no one wanted to start the bandwagon, and everyone wanted to give him a chance. I was waiting until the last minute myself (since I can't unvote), but then I realized that by not voting, he's costing us money.

[Mr. Wednesday]

I doubt Swaggs does work to our advantage, realistically, but the complete absence to this point makes it more or less obligatory. And I don't have anybody that I like more.

VOTE Swaggs

[Mr. Wednesday]

Dola, and I'm unlikely to be back before deadline.

[SnDvls]

since when is 3 votes a landslide?
if he doesn't show up I'll probally join in, yes he's probally not a wolf, but as of now he's also not active for whatever reason...I'll have to check pg 1 to see if he said he'd be gone for a bit.

Otherwise I'm voting mauboy just as a payback vote and a dumb reason in my book for voting me...sounds like a wolf reaching for a "random" person/reason to vote IMO to just get an additional $15,000

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by saldana

the friend at the bank thin could be rather dangerous to allow the cutthroats to win, especially as the game goes on....when the pool of possible beneficiaries becomes more limited, they could start whacking people with large cash reserves in the bank with the hope that they are the receivers of the account balances.

I think we can combat that by building a circle of trust as quickly as possible, and forking over the 10K to change our beneficiries to people in it.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Lathum

I'll probably vote Swaggs since he didn't submit his night action

Originally Posted by Lathum

Vote Swaggs

Originally Posted by Tyrith

Yeah, I know that feeling. But the problem is that the idea makes too much sense. The vote that strikes me as the worst is Lathum's hit and run that started the landslide, but after what you've said then who the heck knows what that means. Probably nothing, but it's a data point at least.

ahem.

And since I had a vote on me already thanks to Hoops' early vote I felt it was a wise move to put some distance there.

[saldana]

btw, has it occured to anyone that swaggs might not know the game started...he visited the board today according to his profile...did anyone ping him on the off topic board.

[SnDvls]

can someone point me to the post # where Swaggs even says he's in this game or did he do it by PM?

It appears he said after me & Mr. W, but I can't even find a post by him.

[path12]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

I understand the impulse to vote Swaggs - and it might even work out to our advantage (obviously only the Cutthroats have this knowledge right now) - but the more people that endorse this idea, the more nervous I get about the fact that he is Patsy #1 for this game.

Where else do you go, though? Participation (at least in voting) is going to be crucial for the good guys in order to maximize their holdings. As much as I hate to pile on a Swaggs vote, nowhere else makes any sense to me as long as he's not around.

[SnDvls]

also see where NTN says in, but he's not on the player list...did he drop?

[saldana]

Originally Posted by SnDvls

can someone point me to the post # where Swaggs even says he's in this game or did he do it by PM?

It appears he said after me & Mr. W, but I can't even find a post by him.

this is fantastic....if you check the list of posts per person, swaggs is not on it at all...you guys all just voted for someone that isnt even freaking playing!!!!!!!LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Sign-ups
1. Lathum
2. Pass
3. hoopsguy
4. path
5. Render
6. Arles
7. Alan T
8. The Jackal
9. Chief Rum
10. mauboy
11. Schmidty
12. claphamsa
13. SnDvls
14. Mr. Wednesday
15. Swaggs
16. DaddyTorgo
17. saldana
18. Tyrith

Originally Posted by saldana

this is fantastic....if you check the list of posts per person, swaggs is not on it at all...you guys all just voted for someone that isnt even freaking playing!!!!!!!LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

huh?

[claphamsa]

I do that all the time....

[SnDvls]

Originally Posted by saldana

this is fantastic....if you check the list of posts per person, swaggs is not on it at all...you guys all just voted for someone that isnt even freaking playing!!!!!!!LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

maybe all the swaggs votes will shift to ntn

[claphamsa]

vote for people that arnet playing that is :P

[Passacaglia]

It would be hilarious if this somehow uncovered the fact that ntn and Swaggs were the same person.

[saldana]

Originally Posted by Lathum

huh?

he never signed up

[saldana]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

It would be hilarious if this somehow uncovered the fact that ntn and Swaggs were the same person.

LOL

[Barkeep49]

Swaggs had sent me a PM saying he would play and ntn was accidentally omitted but decided yesterday he didn't want to play.

[SnDvls]

what about NTN?

[SnDvls]

Originally Posted by ntndeacon

You've got the brawn, I've got the looks.
Let's make lots of money!

In

he's in post

[SnDvls]

ok nevermind

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by SnDvls

he's in post

It's a shame. He had the most "money" song reference in the thread. Plus, he studied at the Sorbonne. Doctored in mathematics. He could have been a Don.

[SnDvls]

since it seems to be a slow night a probally a forgone conclusion and in case swaggs does show up late

vote mauboy1

[Passacaglia]

Another reason to kill Swaggs is that since we know he didn't submit N0 (that's night zero) actions, he might just be wolf bait anyway, since he didn't choose a beneficiary.

[The Jackal]

Vote Swaggs

[claphamsa]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Another reason to kill Swaggs is that since we know he didn't submit N0 (that's night zero) actions, he might just be wolf bait anyway, since he didn't choose a beneficiary.

and if we kill him now? who gets his money....

[mauchow]

I was able to stop back into the thread, sorry about the vote at the beginning of post. Oh, and nice retaliatory vote sundevls.

vote sndvls

[saldana]

Originally Posted by claphamsa

and if we kill him now? who gets his money....

i believe it goes into escrow until a beneficiary is named by swaggs post mortem

[Barkeep49]

Swaggs will have no money if he is bankrupted. Money only passes from dead people. His non-existent beneficiary, however, would be revealed.

[Barkeep49]

Here's what I have for a vote count:

Lathum – hoops (110)
Swaggs – Alan (149), Lathum (155), Render (157), Mr. W (168), The Jackal (192),
Sndvls – mauboy(151), mauboy (194)
Mau – Sndvls (190)

[saldana]

for lack of anything better to do

vote swaggs

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Swaggs will have no money if he is bankrupted. Money only passes from dead people. His non-existent beneficiary, however, would be revealed.

Santa Claus? The Easter Bunny? An over .500 Tampa Bay Rays team?

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by path12

Where else do you go, though? Participation (at least in voting) is going to be crucial for the good guys in order to maximize their holdings. As much as I hate to pile on a Swaggs vote, nowhere else makes any sense to me as long as he's not around.

Still catching up - I don't have an obvious answer (it is Day 1) and don't have a lot of room to talk having cast an early vote. But if I had reserved my vote for later in the day, I would be nervous about a vote that seems too easy.

Speaking to you in particular, I know that you use voting off non-participants is your de facto voting strategy. And if that works for you then more power to you. I just have a sinking feeling that it isn't going to be a very effective Day 1 strategy for this particular game based on the ebb and flow that I have observed up until now.