11-27-2013, 08:19 AM | #151 |
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Poor Hiltoppers. 4 losses by 3 points or less and out on tiebreakers
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One of my alma mater with a Cinderella run. Woohoo! I'm late to the party. I've been trying to avoid the Dynasty forum to prevent myself from wanting to start a dynasty before I have time to do it. Need...to...hold....off....until March I am going to start following this now. Keep up the great work! Quote:
1. Why not just schedule a ninth and tenth game randomly among the teams and say those two extra games(the third match up for teams) are at neutral sites? 2. I say let the seedings stay. Don't worry about the what-ifs of seeding when you have 128 teams. It complicates things. However, if you WANT to avoid those things, something I did in my NCAA dynasty selection process was to color code alike teams in an Excel file so that I could easily see where they shouldn't match up. You can try that out if you want to separate same-bracket and same-conference teams.
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11-27-2013, 09:00 AM | #153 | |
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Oops- I totally missed this the first time around. Add a Div 2 team to Group 58- no need to make it harder on yourself. Or go with StLee's idea of 2 extra random games. Gotta get them up to 10 games somehow. For #2- depends on what you like. Personally, I like trying to make a bracket so I enjoy the part where I try to meet all the rules. However, if it's getting to be a grind and you're more interested in results, go with the seedings as is. As a reader, I'm cool with either- this should be more about what you want to do as author. SI
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11-27-2013, 10:17 AM | #154 |
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thanks for all the comments, especially SI. Good to have you on board StLee, appreciate the comments.
For the first part of my questions, the problem with adding a D2 team is the what if sports simulator only includes D1 teams. I could always use one of those teams and call it a D2 team, but I don't think that would be very realistic. Probably what I'm going to have to do is just schedule 2 random games extra for each team in group 58. The schedule won't be balanced, but its the only way I can think of. As for the second part of the question, I do know that it was a grind just changing the groups around initially so that there wasn't more than 1 team from the same conference per group. That took some time. Probably what I'll do is leave the seedings alone, unless there is a situation in which I have teams tied and need to use a tiebreaker. Then if I can use it to my advantage to switch teams around that otherwise would have created matchups between conference teams or teams from the same group, I will do so. Otherwise I'll just leave things alone, as it will be A LOT easier. Thanks guys! |
11-27-2013, 10:33 AM | #155 |
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St. Marys (WCC, 28-7, 14-2) Northwestern State (Southland, 23-9, 15-3) Mount St. Marys (Northeast, 18-14, 11-7) Southeast Missouri State (Ohio Valley, 17-16, 8-8) Duquesne (Atlantic 10, 8-22, 1-15) Coppin Sate (MEAC, 8-24, 5-11) --------------------------------------------------------- Week 1 St. Marys- 82, Coppin St.- 46 Northwestern St.- 66, Duquesne- 63 SE Missouri St.- 80, Mt. St. Marys- 63 Week 2 Northwestern St.- 80, Mt. St. Marys- 74 SE Missouri St.- 71, Coppin St.- 62 St. Marys- 78, Duquesne- 71 Week 3 St. Marys- 89, SE Missouri St.- 67 Duquesne- 60, Mt. St. Marys- 52 Northwestern St.- 74, Coppin St.- 70 Week 4 Duquesne- 56, Coppin St.- 54 SE Missouri St.- 87, Northwestern St.- 82 St. Marys- 75, Mt. St. Marys- 74 Week 5 St. Marys- 76, Northwestern St.- 74 Coppin St.- 66, Mt. St. Marys- 59 SE Missouri St.- 80, Duquesne- 56 Here are the standings after Week 5: St. Marys 5-0 (+68) SE Missouri St. 4-1 (+33) Northwestern St. 3-2 (+6) Duquesne 2-3 (-24) Coppin St. 1-4 (-44) Mt. St. Marys 0-5 (-39) |
11-27-2013, 10:47 AM | #156 |
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Week 6 St. Marys- 72, Coppin St.- 51 Northwestern St.- 80, Duquesne- 54 SE Missouri St.- 68, Mt. St. Marys- 62 Week 7 Northwestern St.- 92, Mt. St. Marys- 70 SE Missouri St.- 62, Coppin St.- 50 St. Marys- 73, Duquesne- 69 Week 8 St. Marys- 76, SE Missouri St.- 51 Duquesne- 69, Mt. St. Marys- 65 Coppin St.- 88, Northwestern St.- 79 Week 9 Duquesne- 69, Coppin St.- 51 Northwestern St.- 76, SE Missouri St.- 68 St. Marys- 67, Mt. St. Marys- 45 Here are the standings after Week 9: St. Marys 9-0 (+140) Northwestern St. 6-3 (+53) SE Missouri St. 6-3 (+18) Duquesne 4-5 (-32) Coppin St. 2-7 (-86) Mt. St. Marys 0-9 (-93) Week 10 Schedule: St. Marys @ Northwestern St. Coppin St. @ Mt. St. Marys SE Missouri St. @ Duquesne Here's what we do know: St. Marys has won the group, and Northwestern St. and SE Missouri St. are playing for second and third. Duquesne, Coppin St., and Mt. St Marys are eliminated. St. Marys will be looking for an undefeated run in group play. The situation with SE Missouri St. and Northwestern St. is this: if one wins and the other loses, then the one that wins will finish in second place. If they both win or both lose, then we have a tiebreaker situation. |
11-27-2013, 11:06 AM | #157 |
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Week 10 Northwestern St.- 68, St. Marys- 59 Mt. St. Marys- 62, Coppin St.- 45 SE Missouri St.- 79, Duquesne- 74 Final Group 28 Standings: #1- St. Marys 9-1 (+131) #2- Northwestern St. 7-3 (+62) #3- SE Missouri St. 7-3 (+23) #4- Duquesne 4-6 (-37) #5- Coppin St. 2-8 (-103) #6- Mt. St. Marys 1-9 (-76) St. Marys wins the group, but that loss in their last game will definitely knock them down a few seeds in the round of 128. Northwestern St. is the group runner up by virtue of a tiebreaker. Northwestern St. split with SE Missouri St., but has a considerably better point differential. They should be able to get a fairly high seed as far as group runner ups go. SE Missouri St. is still in great shape in the wildcard hunt, with the 7-3 record. Unfortunately, that does eliminate our last 5-5 third place team. Georgia Tech is officially eliminated, and now to even have a chance at a wildcard berth, teams that finish third place in their group MUST have at least a 6-4 record in their group. Here are the wildcard standings: N.C. Central 7-3 (+63) Jacksonville St. 7-3 (+55) E. Michigan 7-3 (+50) Texas 7-3 (+27) SE Missouri St. 7-3 (+23) Iona 6-4 (+116) Drexel 6-4 (+46) Vermont 6-4 (+43) #15 St. Louis 6-4 (+15) N. Florida 6-4 (+9) Austin Peay 6-4 (+6) Vanderbilt 6-4 (+2) Georgia Tech 5-5 (+19) ELIMINATED Pacific 5-5 (+14) ELIMINATED High Point 5-5 (+8) ELIMINATED Buffalo 5-5 (+4) ELIMINATED W. Michigan 5-5 (+1) ELIMINATED Arkansas 5-5 (+1) ELIMINATED Arkansas St. 5-5 (-5) ELIMINATED Delaware 5-5 (-7) ELIMINATED St. Francis (NY) 5-5 (-8) ELIMINATED Nebraska 5-5 (-9) ELIMINATED TX Arlington 5-5 (-11) ELIMINATED McNeese St. 5-5 (-11) ELIMINATED Wagner 5-5 (-20) ELIMINATED Howard 5-5 (-26) ELIMINATED NJIT 5-5 (-37) ELIMINATED Winthrop 5-5 (-46) ELIMINATED |
11-27-2013, 11:07 AM | #158 |
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A question regarding the wildcard standings, do you guys like how I'm showing all the third place teams, even those that are eliminated? I'm thinking of changing it to show only the 12 teams that are currently in the lead for wildcard berths. Let me know what you guys think, I can do it either way, just wondering if you guys had an an opinion either way.
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11-27-2013, 11:30 AM | #159 |
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Either/or works for me. Make sure to show the top team eliminated so we can see the line but those already out- that's your call as to which cut and paste is easier. I suppose I haven't looked at the eliminated ones for a while except to see where a newly eliminated team falls.
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11-27-2013, 11:19 PM | #160 |
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Ole Miss (SEC, 27-9, 12-6) Stanford (Pac 12, 19-15, 9-9) Tulsa (Conference USA, 17-16, 8-8) Ball State (MAC, 15-15, 8-8) Northern Kentucky (Atlantic Sun, 11-16, 9-9) Chicago State (Great West, 11-22, 3-5) ------------------------------------------------- Week 1 Ole Miss- 66, Chicago St.- 54 Stanford- 62, N. Kentucky- 52 Ball St.- 71, Tulsa- 64 Week 2 Tulsa- 76, Stanford- 70 Chicago St.- 61, Ball St.- 58 Ole Miss- 64, N. Kentucky- 60 Week 3 Ball St.- 74, Ole Miss- 56 Tulsa- 59, N. Kentucky- 56 Stanford- 72, Chicago St.- 65 Week 4 Chicago St.- 60, N. Kentucky- 58 Ball St.- 65, Stanford- 63 Ole Miss- 77, Tulsa- 67 Week 5 Stanford- 84, Ole Miss- 76 Tulsa- 63, Chicago St.- 45 Ball St.- 68, N. Kentucky- 52 Here are the standings after Week 5: Ball St. 4-1 (+40) Stanford 3-2 (+17) Tulsa 3-2 (+10) Ole Miss 3-2 (0) Chicago St. 2-3 (-32) N. Kentucky 0-5 (-35) |
11-27-2013, 11:32 PM | #161 |
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Week 6 Ole Miss- 72, Chicago St.- 57 N. Kentucky- 60, Stanford- 51 Ball St.- 69, Tulsa- 57 Week 7 Stanford- 66, Tulsa- 57 Ball St.- 52, Chicago St.- 43 Ole Miss- 84, N. Kentucky- 48 Week 8 Ole Miss- 79, Ball St.- 65 N. Kentucky- 61, Tulsa- 59 Chicago St.- 72, Stanford- 65 Week 9 N. Kentucky- 71, Chicago St.- 53 Stanford- 70, Ball St.- 61 Ole Miss- 71, Tulsa- 61 Here are the standings after Week 9: Ole Miss 7-2 (+75) Ball St. 6-3 (+38) Stanford 5-4 (+19) Tulsa 3-6 (-23) N. Kentucky 3-6 (-42) Chicago St. 3-6 (-67) Week 10 Schedule: Ole Miss @ Stanford Chicago St. @ Tulsa Ball St. @ N. Kentucky An Ole Miss win gives them the group 29 title. However, if they lose and Ball St. wins, then it would become a tiebreaker situation, but it would take a big Ole Miss loss combined with a big Ball St. win for Ball St. to win the tiebreaker. Stanford MUST win to even have a shot to advance. If they win and Ball St. loses, then Stanford could jump up to second place. It would be a tiebreaker situation. Best case scenario for Ball St.? Just win baby! |
11-27-2013, 11:41 PM | #162 |
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Week 10 Stanford- 71, Ole Miss- 70 Tulsa- 75, Chicago St.- 58 N. Kentucky- 74, Ball St.- 65 Final Group 29 standings: #1- Ole Miss 7-3 (+74) #2- Ball St. 6-4 (+29) #3- Stanford 6-4 (+20) #4- Tulsa 4-6 (-6) #5- N. Kentucky 4-6 (-33) #6- Chicago St. 3-7 (-84) Ole Miss wins the group but that 7-3 record will make them one of the lower seeds as far as group winners go Ball St. wins the tiebreaker with Stanford for second place. They split their 2 meetings, but Ball St. had a better point differential. They will be probably a middle of the pack seed for group runner ups. Stanford gets the win they needed to get into wildcard contention. Unfortunately this does eliminate Vanderbilt, who's +2 point differential isn't enough. Vanderbilt is eliminated, and Austin Peay is now on the chopping block. Here is a look at the wildcard standings: N.C. Central 7-3 (+63) Jacksonville St. 7-3 (+55) E. Michigan 7-3 (+50) Texas 7-3 (+27) SE Missouri St. 7-3 (+23) Iona 6-4 (+116) Drexel 6-4 (+46) Vermont 6-4 (+43) Stanford 6-4 (+20) #15 St. Louis 6-4 (+15) N. Florida 6-4 (+9) Austin Peay 6-4 (+6) Vanderbilt 6-4 (+2) ELIMINATED Georgia Tech 5-5 (+19) ELIMINATED Pacific 5-5 (+14) ELIMINATED High Point 5-5 (+8) ELIMINATED Buffalo 5-5 (+4) ELIMINATED W. Michigan 5-5 (+1) ELIMINATED Arkansas 5-5 (+1) ELIMINATED Arkansas St. 5-5 (-5) ELIMINATED Delaware 5-5 (-7) ELIMINATED St. Francis (NY) 5-5 (-8) ELIMINATED Nebraska 5-5 (-9) ELIMINATED TX Arlington 5-5 (-11) ELIMINATED McNeese St. 5-5 (-11) ELIMINATED Wagner 5-5 (-20) ELIMINATED Howard 5-5 (-26) ELIMINATED NJIT 5-5 (-37) ELIMINATED Winthrop 5-5 (-46) ELIMINATED |
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UCLA (Pac 12, 25-10, 13-5) LSU (SEC, 19-12, 9-9) Southern University (23-10, 15-3) Marshall (Conference USA, 13-19, 6-10) Cal St. Fullerton (Big West, 14-18, 6-12) Fairleigh Dickinson (Northeast, 7-24, 2-16) -------------------------------------------------- Week 1 UCLA- 78, Fairleigh Dickinson- 60 Cal St. Fullerton- 70, LSU- 55 Southern- 59, Marshall- 50 Week 2 LSU- 60, Southern- 40 Marshall- 65, Fairleigh Dickinson- 55 Cal St. Fullerton- 93, UCLA- 85 (OT) Week 3 UCLA- 75, Marshall- 70 Cal St. Fullerton- 74, Southern- 65 (OT) LSU- 74, Fairleigh Dickinson- 58 Week 4 Cal St. Fullerton- 75, Fairleigh Dickinson- 59 Marshall- 80, LSU- 73 UCLA- 71, Southern- 61 Week 5 LSU- 71, UCLA- 67 Fairleigh Dickinson- 56, Southern- 55 Cal St. Fullerton- 80, Marshall- 72 Here are the standings after Week 5: Cal St. Fullerton 5-0 (+56) LSU 3-2 (+18) UCLA 3-2 (+21) Marshall 2-3 (-5) Fairleigh Dickinson 1-4 (-59) Southern 1-4 (-31) |
11-28-2013, 12:05 AM | #164 |
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Week 6 UCLA- 69, Fairleigh Dickinson- 67 Cal St. Fullerton- 79, LSU- 69 Marshall- 73, Southern- 62 Week 7 LSU- 73, Southern- 53 Marshall- 76, Fairleigh Dickinson- 61 UCLA- 79, Cal St. Fullerton- 67 Week 8 Marshall- 80, UCLA- 72 Cal St. Fullerton- 70, Southern- 60 LSU- 80, Fairleigh Dickinson- 64 Week 9 Cal St. Fullerton- 70, Fairleigh Dickinson- 61 LSU- 76, Marshall- 63 UCLA- 65, Southern- 55 (OT) Here are the standings after Week 9: Cal St. Fullerton 8-1 (+73) LSU 6-3 (+57) UCLA 6-3 (+37) Marshall 5-4 (+16) Fairleigh Dickinson 1-8 (-101) Southern 1-8 (-82) Week 10 Schedule: UCLA @ LSU Fairleigh Dickinson @ Southern Marshall @ Cal St. Fullerton Cal St. Fullerton has clinched the group title already. UCLA and LSU at the moment are battling for second and third. The winner of that game will clinch second place in the group. Marshall is still in the mix, but they must beat Cal St. Fullerton to have a chance. If they win, they will be in a tiebreaker with the LSU-UCLA loser for third place. |
11-28-2013, 12:15 AM | #165 |
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Week 10 UCLA- 81, LSU- 68 Southern- 77, Fairleigh Dickinson- 56 Marshall- 79, Cal St. Fullerton- 76 Final Group 30 standings: #1- Cal St. Fullerton 8-2 (+70) #2- UCLA 7-3 (+50) #3- LSU 6-4 (+44) #4- Marshall 6-4 (+19) #5- Southern 2-8 (-61) #6- Fairleigh Dickinson 1-9 (-122) Cal St. Fullerton wins the group and will probably be a top 35 seed. Another Cinderella team that is just happy to be here. I would guess somewhere between 25 and 35. UCLA finishes second, and could be one of the higher seeds of the group runner ups. The point differential isn't terrible for a 7-3 team. LSU gets third place over Marshall due to tiebreakers. They split their meetings, but LSU has a much better point differential. So LSU gets third and is safely in the wildcard hunt at the moment. This does eliminated Austin Peay, and puts North Florida next on the chopping block. Marshall needed to really, really win big or have LSU or UCLA get blown out. Didn't happen, but good run by them anyways. Southern was hugely disappointing. Here are the wildcard standings through group 30: (over halfway done with group play, woo-hoo!) N.C. Central 7-3 (+63) Jacksonville St. 7-3 (+55) E. Michigan 7-3 (+50) Texas 7-3 (+27) SE Missouri St. 7-3 (+23) Iona 6-4 (+116) Drexel 6-4 (+46) LSU 6-4 (+44) Vermont 6-4 (+43) Stanford 6-4 (+20) #15 St. Louis 6-4 (+15) N. Florida 6-4 (+9) Austin Peay 6-4 (+6) ELIMINATED Vanderbilt 6-4 (+2) ELIMINATED Georgia Tech 5-5 (+19) ELIMINATED Pacific 5-5 (+14) ELIMINATED High Point 5-5 (+8) ELIMINATED Buffalo 5-5 (+4) ELIMINATED W. Michigan 5-5 (+1) ELIMINATED Arkansas 5-5 (+1) ELIMINATED Arkansas St. 5-5 (-5) ELIMINATED Delaware 5-5 (-7) ELIMINATED St. Francis (NY) 5-5 (-8) ELIMINATED Nebraska 5-5 (-9) ELIMINATED TX Arlington 5-5 (-11) ELIMINATED McNeese St. 5-5 (-11) ELIMINATED Wagner 5-5 (-20) ELIMINATED Howard 5-5 (-26) ELIMINATED NJIT 5-5 (-37) ELIMINATED Winthrop 5-5 (-46) ELIMINATED |
11-28-2013, 11:30 AM | #166 |
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I'm trying to remember. Have we had any groups where the winning team goes 10-0 and the second place team goes 8-2? I can't think of any but it's been 30 groups. Whatif seems to really randomize things a bit more than I think they are.
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11-28-2013, 03:27 PM | #167 |
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I went and looked at my charts, and it looks like group 2 is the only group that had a 10-0 winner (Duke) and an 8-2 runner up. But the runner up was actually Cal St. Northridge. WIS is a great sim, there is a lot of randomness to it, which I like, but for the most part, the dominant teams are going to win the majority of their games against lesser teams. I should have more groups done and ready to post by tomorrow, thanks for reading and all your comments! |
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I really like seeing all the teams that are in the elimination standings, too. It will also give the newly minted third-place teams that are already eliminated a good comparison point of how short they came. So please leave ALL eliminated third-place teams in the standings.
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Oops. I messed up my multi-quote. Anyway, I suggested adding a third game because of the problems I had with my football dynasty of trying to find substitute teams for the Division I-AA teams whatifsports won't display. My work around was to roll some dice and then find some similar historical teams to substitute, but I felt it was cheap and skewed the actual teams' results.
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LaSalle (Atlantic 10, 24-10, 11-5) Loyola (MD) (MAAC, 23-12, 12-6) Georgia (SEC, 15-17, 9-9) Fresno State (Mountain West, 11-19, 5-11) Northern Colorado (Big Sky, 13-18, 10-10) Alabama State (SWAC, 10-22, 8-10) -------------------------------------------------- Week 1 LaSalle- 73, Alabama St.- 58 N. Colorado- 75, Loyola (MD)- 57 Georgia- 51, Fresno St.- 49 Week 2 Georgia- 67, Loyola (MD)- 57 Fresno St.- 53, Alabama St.- 46 LaSalle- 80, N. Colorado- 71 Week 3 Fresno St.- 72, LaSalle- 70 N. Colorado- 56, Georgia- 46 Loyola (MD)- 61, Alabama St.- 45 Week 4 N. Colorado- 55, Alabama St.- 52 Loyola (MD)- 58, Fresno St.- 57 LaSalle- 73, Georgia- 64 Week 5 LaSalle- 72, Loyola (MD)- 57 Alabama St.- 66, Georgia- 52 Fresno St.- 69, N. Colorado- 67 Here are the standings after Week 5: LaSalle 4-1 (+46) Fresno St. 3-2 (+8) N. Colorado 3-2 (+20) Georgia 2-3 (-21) Loyola (MD) 2-3 (-26) Alabama St. 1-4 (-27) |
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Week 6 Alabama St.- 63, LaSalle- 60 Loyola (MD)- 56, N. Colorado- 51 Fresno St.- 63, Georgia- 57 Week 7 Georgia- 57, Loyola (MD)- 55 (OT) Fresno St.- 60, Alabama St.- 56 LaSalle- 74, N. Colorado- 49 Week 8 Fresno St.- 76, LaSalle- 63 Georgia- 68, N. Colorado- 66 Loyola (MD)- 64, Alabama St.- 52 Week 9 N. Colorado- 71, Alabama St.- 61 Fresno St.- 52, Loyola (MD)- 40 LaSalle- 62, Georgia- 50 Here are the standings after Week 9: Fresno St. 7-2 (+43) LaSalle 6-3 (+67) N. Colorado 4-5 (-2) Loyola (MD) 4-5 (-23) Georgia 4-5 (-35) Alabama St. 2-7 (-50) Week 10 Schedule: LaSalle @ Loyola (MD) Alabama St. @ Georgia Fresno St. @ N. Colorado Not much to talk about in this one. Fresno St. and Lasalle are moving on to the round of 128, and every other team is eliminated. With needing a minimum of a 6-4 record to get a wildcard berth, the 3 team tie between N. Colorado, Loyola (MD), and Georgia doesn't mean much. The group title is still up for grabs. All Fresno St. has to do is win, or get a LaSalle loss. If LaSalle wins and Fresno St. loses, then we have a tiebreaker to tend to. |
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Week 10 Loyola (MD)- 73, LaSalle- 62 Georgia- 64, Alabama St.- 38 N. Colorado- 66, Fresno St.- 64 Final Group 31 standings: Fresno St. 7-3 (+41) LaSalle 6-4 (+56) N. Colorado 5-5 (0) Georgia 5-5 (-9) Loyola (MD) 5-5 (-12) Alabama St. 2-8 (-76) Both Fresno St. and LaSalle lose in Week 10, hurting their seeds. Fresno St. backs into the group 31 title, but the 7-3 record should have them towards the bottom of the group winners. LaSalle isn't quite as bad off, as their point differential puts them near the top of the group runner ups with 6-4 record, but there are a few teams ahead of them. N. Colorado takes third due to the tiebreaker, and I'll be honest here, since all 3 of the teams were eliminated, I skipped head to head and went straight to point differential. Had a wildcard berth been in the possibility for any of the teams, I would have went head to head first. As it stands, the 5-5 record isn't enough and N. Colorado is eliminated. Here's a look at the wildcard standings. N.C. Central 7-3 (+63) Jacksonville St. 7-3 (+55) E. Michigan 7-3 (+50) Texas 7-3 (+27) SE Missouri St. 7-3 (+23) Iona 6-4 (+116) Drexel 6-4 (+46) LSU 6-4 (+44) Vermont 6-4 (+43) Stanford 6-4 (+20) #15 St. Louis 6-4 (+15) N. Florida 6-4 (+9) Austin Peay 6-4 (+6) ELIMINATED Vanderbilt 6-4 (+2) ELIMINATED Georgia Tech 5-5 (+19) ELIMINATED Pacific 5-5 (+14) ELIMINATED High Point 5-5 (+8) ELIMINATED Buffalo 5-5 (+4) ELIMINATED W. Michigan 5-5 (+1) ELIMINATED Arkansas 5-5 (+1) ELIMINATED N. Colorado 5-5 (0) ELIMINATED Arkansas St. 5-5 (-5) ELIMINATED Delaware 5-5 (-7) ELIMINATED St. Francis (NY) 5-5 (-8) ELIMINATED Nebraska 5-5 (-9) ELIMINATED TX Arlington 5-5 (-11) ELIMINATED McNeese St. 5-5 (-11) ELIMINATED Wagner 5-5 (-20) ELIMINATED Howard 5-5 (-26) ELIMINATED NJIT 5-5 (-37) ELIMINATED Winthrop 5-5 (-46) ELIMINATED |
11-29-2013, 08:20 PM | #173 |
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Notre Dame (Big East, 25-10, 11-7) Utah State (WAC, 21-10, 11-7) James Madison (Colonial, 21-15, 11-7) Penn State (Big 10, 10-21, 2-16) Jacksonville (Atlantic Sun, 14-18, 9-9) Alabama A&M (SWAC, 11-20, 6-12) ------------------------------------------- Week 1 ND- 64, Alabama A&M- 55 Jacksonville- 63, Utah St.- 55 Penn St.- 70, James Madison- 65 (OT) Week 2 James Madison- 69, Utah St.- 60 Penn St.- 69, Alabama A&M- 63 ND- 73, Jacksonville- 42 Week 3 ND- 77, Penn St.- 72 James Madison- 68, Jacksonville- 58 Utah St.- 66, Alabama A&M- 48 Week 4 Alabama A&M- 64, Jacksonville- 61 Utah St.- 65, Penn St.- 61 ND- 70, James Madison- 60 Week 5 ND- 78, Utah St.- 55 James Madison- 64, Alabama A&M- 55 Penn St.- 69, Jacksonville- 62 Here are the standings after Week 5: Notre Dame 5-0 (+78) Penn St. 3-2 (+9) James Madison 3-2 (+13) Utah St. 2-3 (-18) Alabama A&M 1-4 (-39) Jacksonville 1-4 (-43) |
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Week 6 ND- 67, Alabama A&M- 43 Jacksonville- 78, Utah St.- 64 James Madison- 68, Penn St.- 54 Week 7 Utah St.- 61, James Madison- 51 Penn St.- 65, Alabama A&M- 44 ND- 75, Jacksonville- 72 (OT) Week 8 ND- 74, Penn St.- 57 James Madison- 88, Jacksonville- 67 Utah St.- 56, Alabama A&M- 47 Week 9 Jacksonville- 79, Alabama A&M- 56 Penn St.- 63, Utah St.- 54 ND- 56, James Madison- 47 Here are the standings after Week 9: Notre Dame 9-0 (+131) James Madison 5-4 (+29) Penn St. 5-4 (+8) Utah St. 4-5 (-22) Jacksonville 3-6 (-30) Alabama A&M 1-8 (-116) Week 10 Schedule: ND @ Utah St. Alabama A&M @ James Madison Penn St. @ Jacksonville Notre Dame has clinched the group title and is playing for an undefeated run in group play. James Madison and Penn St. are tied right now, each team will be hoping the other loses. If one loses and the other wins, the one that wins gets the group runner up. If they both win or both lose, then we have a tiebreaker situation. |
11-29-2013, 08:44 PM | #175 |
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Week 10 ND- 75, Utah St.- 74 James Madison- 61, Alabama A&M- 49 Penn St.- 53, Jacksonville- 51 Final Group 32 standings: #1- Notre Dame 10-0 (+132) #2- James Madison 6-4 (+41) #3- Penn St. 6-4 (+10) #4- Utah St. 4-6 (-23) #5- Jacksonville 3-7 (-32) #6- Alabama A&M 1-9 (-128) So Notre Dame wins the group easily, finishing undefeated, but their point differential is a tad low compared to the other undefeated teams. There are a few teams lower, but they should still be in line for a top 10-15 seed. James Madison gets the tiebreaker over Penn St. I did do head to head in this one and they split, so James Madison gets second place due to point differential. Good news, bad news for Penn St. Their 6-4 record and +10 point differential is enough to keep them in the wildcard chase.. but barely. N. Florida, who was on the chopping block, came in with a record of 6-4 and a point differential of +9, so by 1 point, Penn St. eliminates N. Florida. However, this does make Penn St. the next team on the chopping block already. Heres a look at the wildcard standings: N.C. Central 7-3 (+63) Jacksonville St. 7-3 (+55) E. Michigan 7-3 (+50) Texas 7-3 (+27) SE Missouri St. 7-3 (+23) Iona 6-4 (+116) Drexel 6-4 (+46) LSU 6-4 (+44) Vermont 6-4 (+43) Stanford 6-4 (+20) #15 St. Louis 6-4 (+15) Penn St. 6-4 (+10) N. Florida 6-4 (+9) ELIMINATED Austin Peay 6-4 (+6) ELIMINATED Vanderbilt 6-4 (+2) ELIMINATED Georgia Tech 5-5 (+19) ELIMINATED Pacific 5-5 (+14) ELIMINATED High Point 5-5 (+8) ELIMINATED Buffalo 5-5 (+4) ELIMINATED W. Michigan 5-5 (+1) ELIMINATED Arkansas 5-5 (+1) ELIMINATED N. Colorado 5-5 (0) ELIMINATED Arkansas St. 5-5 (-5) ELIMINATED Delaware 5-5 (-7) ELIMINATED St. Francis (NY) 5-5 (-8) ELIMINATED Nebraska 5-5 (-9) ELIMINATED TX Arlington 5-5 (-11) ELIMINATED McNeese St. 5-5 (-11) ELIMINATED Wagner 5-5 (-20) ELIMINATED Howard 5-5 (-26) ELIMINATED NJIT 5-5 (-37) ELIMINATED Winthrop 5-5 (-46) ELIMINATED |
11-29-2013, 11:35 PM | #176 |
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Colorado State (Mountain West, 26-9, 11-5) Harvard (Ivy, 20-10, 11-3) Seton Hall (Big East, 15-18, 3-15) Arkansas-Pine Bluff (SWAC, 16-14, 15-3) Georgia Southern (Southern, 14-19, 7-11) Wisconsin-Milwaukee (Horizon, 8-24, 3-13) ------------------------------------------------- Week 1 Colorado St.- 71, Milwaukee- 55 Harvard- 68, GA Southern- 49 Seton Hall- 58, Arkansas-Pine Bluff- 50 Week 2 Seton Hall- 79, Harvard- 69 Milwaukee- 69, Arkansas-Pine Bluff- 65 Colorado St.- 76, GA Southern- 69 Week 3 Colorado St.- 69, Arkansas-Pine Bluff- 49 GA Southern- 66, Seton Hall- 55 Harvard- 69, Milwaukee- 47 Week 4 Milwaukee- 55, GA Southern- 45 Harvard- 70, Arkansas-Pine Bluff- 55 Colorado St.- 73, Seton Hall- 50 Week 5 Harvard- 75, Colorado St.- 74 Seton Hall- 72, Milwaukee- 54 GA Southern- 62, Arkansas-Pine Bluff- 48 Here are the standings after Week 5: Harvard 4-1 (+47) Colorado St. 4-1 (+65) Seton Hall 3-2 (+2) Milwaukee 2-3 (-42) GA Southern 2-3 (-11) Arkansas-Pine Bluff 0-5 (-61) |
11-29-2013, 11:46 PM | #177 |
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Week 6 Colorado St.- 62, Milwaukee- 48 GA Southern- 66, Harvard- 55 Seton Hall- 66, Arkansas-Pine Bluff- 62 Week 7 Harvard- 73, Seton Hall- 47 Arkansas-Pine Bluff- 54, Milwaukee- 45 Colorado St.- 68, GA Southern- 45 Week 8 Colorado St.- 70, Arkansas-Pine Bluff- 54 Seton Hall- 66, GA Southern- 57 Harvard- 66, Milwaukee- 55 Week 9 GA Southern- 79, Milwaukee- 74 (2 OT) Arkansas-Pine Bluff- 65, Harvard- 55 Colorado St.- 86, Seton Hall- 52 Here are the standings after Week 9: Colorado St. 8-1 (+152) Harvard 6-3 (+63) Seton Hall 5-4 (-45) GA Southern 4-5 (-27) Arkansas-Pine Bluff 2-7 (-62) Milwaukee 2-7 (-81) Week 10 Schedule: Colorado St. @ Harvard Milwaukee @ Seton Hall Arkansas-Pine Bluff @ GA Southern Colorado St. has clinched the group 33 title, and Harvard is in the drivers seat for second place. In order to even have a chance at second place, Seton Hall MUST win big, and I do mean big, and hope that Harvard loses big, and again I mean big. At this point, Harvard is in a much better position to even get a wildcard spot. Either way, Seton Hall has to win big. Did I mention it had to be very big? |
11-29-2013, 11:57 PM | #178 |
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Week 10 Colorado St.- 80, Harvard- 66 Milwaukee- 56, Seton Hall- 46 GA Southern- 66, Arkansas-Pine Bluff- 59 Final Group 33 standings: #1- Colorado St. 9-1 (+166) #2- Harvard 6-4 (+49) #3- GA Southern 5-5 (-20) #4- Seton Hall 5-5 (-55) #5- Milwaukee 3-7 (-71) #6- Arkansas-Pine Bluff 2-8 (-69) Colorado St. rolled through this group, so much so that their point differential is by far the highest of the 9-1 group winners, and even higher than some teams that went undefeated in group play. They would easily be looking at a top 10 seed in the round of 128 if not for that 1 loss. I still think they are in great position to be a top 20-25 seed. Harvard lost their last 2 and backed their way into the round of 128, where their seed really will take a hit. One thing I forgot to mention in my last post is that GA Southern had a chance to take third place if they won and Seton Hall lost. That's exactly what happened. Unfortunately for them, that point differential gets them nowhere near a wildcard berth, so GA Southern is officially eliminated from this tournament. Penn St., which breathes another sigh of relief (they blew one last group by edging out N. Florida for the potential last wildcard spot). But this time they didn't have to sweat it out quite as much, and they see their round of 128 hopes last at least 1 more week. Here are the updated wildcard standings: N.C. Central 7-3 (+63) Jacksonville St. 7-3 (+55) E. Michigan 7-3 (+50) Texas 7-3 (+27) SE Missouri St. 7-3 (+23) Iona 6-4 (+116) Drexel 6-4 (+46) LSU 6-4 (+44) Vermont 6-4 (+43) Stanford 6-4 (+20) #15 St. Louis 6-4 (+15) Penn St. 6-4 (+10) N. Florida 6-4 (+9) ELIMINATED Austin Peay 6-4 (+6) ELIMINATED Vanderbilt 6-4 (+2) ELIMINATED Georgia Tech 5-5 (+19) ELIMINATED Pacific 5-5 (+14) ELIMINATED High Point 5-5 (+8) ELIMINATED Buffalo 5-5 (+4) ELIMINATED W. Michigan 5-5 (+1) ELIMINATED Arkansas 5-5 (+1) ELIMINATED N. Colorado 5-5 (0) ELIMINATED Arkansas St. 5-5 (-5) ELIMINATED Delaware 5-5 (-7) ELIMINATED St. Francis (NY) 5-5 (-8) ELIMINATED Nebraska 5-5 (-9) ELIMINATED TX Arlington 5-5 (-11) ELIMINATED McNeese St. 5-5 (-11) ELIMINATED Wagner 5-5 (-20) ELIMINATED GA Southern 5-5 (-20) ELIMINATED Howard 5-5 (-26) ELIMINATED NJIT 5-5 (-37) ELIMINATED Winthrop 5-5 (-46) ELIMINATED |
11-30-2013, 08:18 PM | #179 |
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UNLV (Mountain West, 25-10, 10-6) Central Florida (Conference USA, 20-11, 9-7) Boston University (America East, 17-13, 11-5) South Carolina (SEC, 14-18, 4-14) Central Arkansas (Southland, 13-17, 7-11) Navy (Patriot, 8-23, 2-12) ------------------------------------------------- Week 1 UNLV- 77, Navy- 54 C. Arkansas- 69, UCF- 68 Boston U.- 72, S. Carolina- 58 Week 2 Boston U- 60, UCF- 56 Navy- 51, S. Carolina- 49 C. Arkansas- 62, UNLV- 60 Week 3 UNLV- 84, S. Carolina- 49 Boston U- 85, C. Arkansas- 74 (OT) UCF- 66, Navy- 55 Week 4 C. Arkansas- 63, Navy- 44 UCF- 72, S. Carolina-55 UNLV- 79, Boston U- 68 Week 5 UNLV- 70, UCF- 59 Navy- 65, Boston U- 50 C. Arkansas- 73, S. Carolina- 64 Here are the standings after Week 5: C. Arkansas 4-1 (+22) UNLV 4-1 (+78) Boston U 3-2 (+3) UCF 2-3 (+12) Navy 2-3 (-36) S. Carolina 0-5 (-79) |
11-30-2013, 08:29 PM | #180 |
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Week 6 UNLV- 84, Navy- 53 C. Arkansas- 74, UCF- 70 S. Carolina- 72, Boston U- 63 Week 7 UCF- 75, Boston U- 54 S. Carolina- 59, Navy- 50 UNLV- 73, C. Arkansas- 64 Week 8 UNLV- 69, S. Carolina- 56 C. Arkansas- 63, Boston U- 57 UCF- 52, Navy- 41 Week 9 C. Arkansas- 65, Navy- 56 UCF- 72, S. Carolina- 50 UNLV- 79, Boston U- 57 Here are the standings after Week 9: UNLV 8-1 (+153) C. Arkansas 7-2 (+30) UCF 5-4 (+62) Boston U 3-6 (-55) S. Carolina 2-7 (-94) Navy 2-7 (-96) Week 10 Schedule: UNLV @ UCF Navy @ Boston U S. Carolina @ C. Arkansas UNLV has all but clinched this group. A win or a C. Arkansas loss gives them the group title. If UNLV loses and UCF wins, we go to tiebreaker. Judging by point differential, might as well go ahead and lock UNLV into that top spot. UCF has a chance to get the wildcard if they can beat UNLV. C. Arkansas has clinched at least second pace. |
11-30-2013, 08:37 PM | #181 |
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Week 10 UNLV- 69, UCF- 59 Boston U- 60, Navy- 57 S. Carolina- 70, C. Arkansas- 65 Final Group 34 standings: #1- UNLV 9-1 (+163) #2- C. Arkansas 7-3 (+25) #3- UCF 5-5 (+52) #4- Boston U 4-6 (-52) #5- S. Carolina 3-7 (-89) #6- Navy 2-8 (-99) UNLV wins the group thanks to their win over UCF, but they also got help from C. Arkansas and their loss. The Rebels have almost as good a point differential than Group 33 winner Colorado St. If I had to guess, I would say that UNLV will be just a seed or 2 lower than their MWC counterparts. C. Arkansas is one of the rare 7-3 group winners, so their seed will be fairly high as far as group runner ups go, but their point differential isn't as strong as others. The good news for UCF is that their point differential is by far the best of the 5-5 third place teams. The bad news is that you now must have a 6-4 record to even be considered for a wildcard berth. So we say goodbye to UCF. Here are the wildcard standings: N.C. Central 7-3 (+63) Jacksonville St. 7-3 (+55) E. Michigan 7-3 (+50) Texas 7-3 (+27) SE Missouri St. 7-3 (+23) Iona 6-4 (+116) Drexel 6-4 (+46) LSU 6-4 (+44) Vermont 6-4 (+43) Stanford 6-4 (+20) #15 St. Louis 6-4 (+15) Penn St. 6-4 (+10) N. Florida 6-4 (+9) ELIMINATED Austin Peay 6-4 (+6) ELIMINATED Vanderbilt 6-4 (+2) ELIMINATED UCF 5-5 (+52) ELIMINATED Georgia Tech 5-5 (+19) ELIMINATED Pacific 5-5 (+14) ELIMINATED High Point 5-5 (+8) ELIMINATED Buffalo 5-5 (+4) ELIMINATED W. Michigan 5-5 (+1) ELIMINATED Arkansas 5-5 (+1) ELIMINATED N. Colorado 5-5 (0) ELIMINATED Arkansas St. 5-5 (-5) ELIMINATED Delaware 5-5 (-7) ELIMINATED St. Francis (NY) 5-5 (-8) ELIMINATED Nebraska 5-5 (-9) ELIMINATED TX Arlington 5-5 (-11) ELIMINATED McNeese St. 5-5 (-11) ELIMINATED Wagner 5-5 (-20) ELIMINATED GA Southern 5-5 (-20) ELIMINATED Howard 5-5 (-26) ELIMINATED NJIT 5-5 (-37) ELIMINATED Winthrop 5-5 (-46) ELIMINATED |
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Group 35
Belmont (Ohio Valley, 26-7, 14-2) North Dakota State (Summit, 24-10, 12-4) Tulane (Conference USA, 20-15, 6-10) Georgia State (Colonial, 15-16, 10-8) Auburn (SEC, 9-23, 3-15) Alcorn State (SWAC, 10-24, 8-10) ------------------------------------------- Week 1 Belmont- 70, Alcorn St.- 54 N. Dakota St.- 60, Auburn- 47 Tulane- 69, Georgia St.- 39 Week 2 Tulane- 66, N. Dakota St.- 63 Georgia St.- 67, Alcorn St.- 48 Belmont- 79, Auburn- 69 Week 3 Georgia St.- 66, Belmont- 59 Auburn- 68, Tulane- 53 N. Dakota St.- 64, Alcorn St.- 61 (OT) Week 4 Auburn- 63, Alcorn St.- 47 Georgia St.- 49, N. Dakota St.- 48 Belmont- 65, Tulane- 63 Week 5 Belmont- 70, N. Dakota St.- 54 Tulane- 56, Alcorn St.- 50 Georgia St.- 78, Auburn- 59 Here are the standings after Week 5: Georgia St. 4-1 (+16) Belmont 4-1 (+37) Tulane 3-2 (+22) N. Dakota St. 2-3 (-4) Auburn 2-3 (-11) Alcorn St. 0-5 (-60) |
11-30-2013, 09:23 PM | #183 |
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Week 6 Belmont- 53, Alcorn St.- 48 Auburn- 68, N. Dakota St.- 65 (OT) Tulane- 65, Georgia St.- 54 Week 7 N. Dakota St.- 80, Tulane- 53 Alcorn St.- 56, Georgia St.- 47 Belmont- 70, Auburn- 59 Week 8 Belmont- 91, Georgia St.- 90 (OT) Tulane- 71, Auburn- 67 Alcorn St.- 45, N. Dakota St.- 44 Week 9 Auburn- 72, Alcorn St.- 63 (OT) Georgia St.- 55, N. Dakota St.- 54 Tulane- 75, Belmont- 68 Here are the standings after Week 9: Belmont 7-2 (+47) Tulane 6-3 (+17) Georgia St. 5-4 (-4) Auburn 4-5 (-14) N. Dakota St. 3-6 (+18) Alcorn St. 2-7 (-64) Week 10 Schedule: Belmont @ N. Dakota St. Alcorn St. @ Tulane Georgia St @ Auburn First and foremost, Georgia St. must win to have a chance at a wildcard berth. Now that that's out of the way, Belmont can clinch the group 35 title with a win or a Tulane loss. A Belmont loss and Tulane win gives us a tiebreaker for the group title. Same thing for second place, if Tulane wins they'll clinch at least second. If Tulane loses and Georgia St. wins then we will have a tiebreaker for second. Lots to decide yet in week 10, this might be the most drama we've had in a week 10 for quite a while now. |
11-30-2013, 09:31 PM | #184 |
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Week 10 Belmont- 76, N. Dakota St.- 64 Tulane- 79, Alcorn St.- 50 Auburn- 56, Georgia St.- 47 Final Group 35 standings: #1- Belmont 8-2 (+59) #2- Tulane 7-3 (+46) #3- Auburn 5-5 (-5) #4- Georgia St. 5-5 (-13) #5- N. Dakota St. 3-7 (+6) #6- Alcorn St. 2-8 (-93) Belmont wins Group 35, but that 8-2 record could have them as a below 25 seed in the round of 128. Tulane will be a higher seed as far as group runner ups go, and Auburn actually overtakes Georgia St. for third, thanks to the tiebreaker of point differential. Still though, 5-5 isn't enough for a wildcard berth, and Penn St. survives yet another group, but they are still next on the chopping block. Here are those wildcard standings: N.C. Central 7-3 (+63) Jacksonville St. 7-3 (+55) E. Michigan 7-3 (+50) Texas 7-3 (+27) SE Missouri St. 7-3 (+23) Iona 6-4 (+116) Drexel 6-4 (+46) LSU 6-4 (+44) Vermont 6-4 (+43) Stanford 6-4 (+20) #15 St. Louis 6-4 (+15) Penn St. 6-4 (+10) N. Florida 6-4 (+9) ELIMINATED Austin Peay 6-4 (+6) ELIMINATED Vanderbilt 6-4 (+2) ELIMINATED UCF 5-5 (+52) ELIMINATED Georgia Tech 5-5 (+19) ELIMINATED Pacific 5-5 (+14) ELIMINATED High Point 5-5 (+8) ELIMINATED Buffalo 5-5 (+4) ELIMINATED W. Michigan 5-5 (+1) ELIMINATED Arkansas 5-5 (+1) ELIMINATED N. Colorado 5-5 (0) ELIMINATED Arkansas St. 5-5 (-5) ELIMINATED Auburn 5-5 (-5) ELIMINATED Delaware 5-5 (-7) ELIMINATED St. Francis (NY) 5-5 (-8) ELIMINATED Nebraska 5-5 (-9) ELIMINATED TX Arlington 5-5 (-11) ELIMINATED McNeese St. 5-5 (-11) ELIMINATED Wagner 5-5 (-20) ELIMINATED GA Southern 5-5 (-20) ELIMINATED Howard 5-5 (-26) ELIMINATED NJIT 5-5 (-37) ELIMINATED Winthrop 5-5 (-46) ELIMINATED |
12-09-2013, 03:48 PM | #185 |
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Group 36
Temple (Atlantic 10, 24-10, 11-5) Northern Iowa (MVC, 21-15, 11-7) USC (Pac 12, 14-18, 9-9) Army (Patriot, 16-15, 8-6) Northern Arizona (Big Sky, 11-21, 8-12) Tennessee-Martin (Ohio Valley, 9-21, 5-11) -------------------------------------------------- Week 1 Temple- 76, UT Martin- 70 N. Iowa- 65, N. Arizona- 42 USC- 61, Army- 56 Week 2 USC- 63, N. Iowa- 59 Army- 77, UT Martin- 75 N. Arizona- 83, Temple- 77 (OT) Week 3 Temple- 65, Army- 60 USC- 93, N. Arizona- 85 (OT) N. Iowa- 76, UT Martin- 66 Week 4 N. Arizona- 61, UT Martin- 57 N. Iowa- 74, Army- 65 Temple- 78, USC- 69 Week 5 Temple- 80, N. Iowa- 72 USC- 69, UT Martin- 59 Army- 74, N. Arizona- 55 Here are the standings after Week 5: Temple 4-1 (+22) USC 4-1 (+18) N. Iowa 3-2 (+30) Army 2-3 (+2) N. Arizona 2-3 (-40) UT Martin 0-5 (-32) |
12-09-2013, 03:57 PM | #186 |
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Week 6 Temple- 55, UT Martin- 53 N. Iowa- 64, N. Arizona- 58 Army- 69, USC- 59 Week 7 USC- 83, N. Iowa- 64 Army- 68, UT Martin- 45 Temple- 64, N. Arizona- 59 Week 8 Temple- 60, Army- 58 USC- 81, N. Arizona- 71 (OT) UT Martin- 80, N. Iowa- 71 Week 9 UT Martin- 66, N. Arizona- 55 N. Iowa- 75, Army- 71 Temple- 66, USC- 65 Standings after Week 9: Temple 8-1 (+32) USC 6-3 (+36) N. Iowa 5-4 (+12) Army 4-5 (+29) UT Martin 2-7 (-37) N. Arizona 2-7 (-72) Week 10 Schedule: Temple @ N. Iowa UT Martin @ USC Army @ N. Arizona Temple has clinched the group no matter what. N. Iowa must win to have a chance at a wildcard. If USC wins the clinch the second spot in the group. A USC loss combined with a N. Iowa win would force a tiebreaker for second and third place. |
12-09-2013, 04:05 PM | #187 |
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Week 10 Temple- 80, N. Iowa- 76 USC- 72, UT Martin- 61 Army- 69, N. Arizona- 56 Final Group 36 standings: #1- Temple 9-1 (+36) #2- USC 7-3 (+47) #3- N. Iowa 5-5 (+8) #4- Army 5-5 (+42) #5- UT Martin 2-8 (-48) #6- N. Arizona 2-8 (-85) Temple wins the group, but has the worst point differential among the 9-1 group winners. It's not even close. Temple will probably be a seed in the top 20 or 25 though still. USC gets second place, and is in the middle of the pack as far as 7-3 group runner ups. N. Iowa gets third place on a tiebreaker, as they swept Army. Unfortunately, a 6-4 minimum record is needed to get a wildcard spot, so we say goodbye to N. Iowa and again Penn St. holds on to their spot. They are on the chopping block still. Here are the complete wildcard standings: N.C. Central 7-3 (+63) Jacksonville St. 7-3 (+55) E. Michigan 7-3 (+50) Texas 7-3 (+27) SE Missouri St. 7-3 (+23) Iona 6-4 (+116) Drexel 6-4 (+46) LSU 6-4 (+44) Vermont 6-4 (+43) Stanford 6-4 (+20) #15 St. Louis 6-4 (+15) Penn St. 6-4 (+10) N. Florida 6-4 (+9) ELIMINATED Austin Peay 6-4 (+6) ELIMINATED Vanderbilt 6-4 (+2) ELIMINATED UCF 5-5 (+52) ELIMINATED Georgia Tech 5-5 (+19) ELIMINATED Pacific 5-5 (+14) ELIMINATED N. Iowa 5-5 (+8) ELIMINATED High Point 5-5 (+8) ELIMINATED Buffalo 5-5 (+4) ELIMINATED W. Michigan 5-5 (+1) ELIMINATED Arkansas 5-5 (+1) ELIMINATED N. Colorado 5-5 (0) ELIMINATED Arkansas St. 5-5 (-5) ELIMINATED Auburn 5-5 (-5) ELIMINATED Delaware 5-5 (-7) ELIMINATED St. Francis (NY) 5-5 (-8) ELIMINATED Nebraska 5-5 (-9) ELIMINATED TX Arlington 5-5 (-11) ELIMINATED McNeese St. 5-5 (-11) ELIMINATED Wagner 5-5 (-20) ELIMINATED GA Southern 5-5 (-20) ELIMINATED Howard 5-5 (-26) ELIMINATED NJIT 5-5 (-37) ELIMINATED Winthrop 5-5 (-46) ELIMINATED |
12-10-2013, 06:05 PM | #188 |
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California (Pac 12, 21-12, 12-6) South Dakota State (Summit, 25-10, 13-3) Towson (Colonial, 18-13, 13-5) Manhattan (MAAC, 14-18, 9-9) UC Santa Barbara (Big West, 11-20, 7-11) UMBC (America East, 8-23, 5-11) ------------------------------------------------ Week 1 Cal- 75, UMBC- 56 S. Dakota St.- 69, UCSB- 51 Towson- 50, Manhattan- 40 Week 2 S. Dakota St.- 64, Towson- 60 UMBC- 53, Manhattan- 51 Cal- 62, UCSB- 52 Week 3 Cal- 70, Manhattan- 61 Towson- 56, UCSB- 53 (OT) S. Dakota St.- 62, UMBC- 46 Week 4 UCSB- 63, UMBC- 43 S. Dakota St.- 71, Manhattan- 48 Cal- 61, Towson- 41 Week 5 Cal- 73, S. Dakota St.- 64 UMBC- 64, Towson- 52 Manhattan- 59, UCSB- 58 Here are the standings after Week 5: Cal 5-0 (+67) S. Dakota St. 4-1 (+52) UMBC 2-3 (-41) Towson 2-3 (-23) Manhattan 1-4 (-43) UCSB 1-4 (-12) Last edited by collegesportsfanms : 12-10-2013 at 06:22 PM. |
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Week 6 Cal- 83, UMBC- 79 S. Dakota St.- 82, UCSB- 59 Manhattan- 64, Towson- 59 Week 7 S. Dakota St.- 63, Towson- 54 UMBC- 68, Manhattan- 67 (OT) Cal- 62, UCSB- 50 Week 8 Cal- 52, Manhattan- 40 Towson- 52, UCSB- 39 UMBC- 78, S. Dakota St.- 74 Week 9 UCSB- 59, UMBC- 47 S. Dakota St.- 68, Manhattan- 53 Cal- 67, Towson- 53 Here are the standings after Week 9: Cal 9-0 (+109) S. Dakota St. 7-2 (+95) UMBC 4-5 (-52) Towson 3-6 (-38) Manhattan 2-7 (-66) UCSB 2-7 (-48) Week 10 Schedule: Cal @ S. Dakota St. UMBC @ Towson Manhattan @ UCSB The top 2 seeds in this group have been decided. Cal has won the group, and S. Dakota St. will be runner up. If UMBC beats Towson, they get third place. If Towson beats UMBC then we'll have a tiebreaker for third. It matters not though, as neither team will be in contention for a wildcard. |
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Week 10 S. Dakota St.- 79, Cal- 77 Towson- 68, UMBC- 51 Manhattan- 63, UCSB- 53 Final Group 37 standings: #1- California 9-1 (+107) #2- S. Dakota St. 8-2 (+97) #3- Towson 4-6 (-21) #4- UMBC 4-6 (-69) #5- Manhattan 3-7 (-56) #6- UCSB 2-8 (-58) Cal wins the group, but that loss to S. Dakota St. is their only blemish. Without that, they could be looking at a top 10 seed. Now they are most likely looking at a seed between 10-20. S. Dakota St. is a very solid group runner-up. 8-2 is the best record for group runner-ups. There are 3 teams that are 8-2, and S. Dakota St. has the best point differential. Right now, they are looking at being the highest ranked group runner-up, but that could change. Towson gets third place thanks to a tiebreaker with UMBC, that being point differential. Again, it matters not, as Towson is nowhere near close to competing for a wildcard berth. How far away were they you ask? Well let's take a look at the updated wildcard standings: N.C. Central 7-3 (+63) Jacksonville St. 7-3 (+55) E. Michigan 7-3 (+50) Texas 7-3 (+27) SE Missouri St. 7-3 (+23) Iona 6-4 (+116) Drexel 6-4 (+46) LSU 6-4 (+44) Vermont 6-4 (+43) Stanford 6-4 (+20) #15 St. Louis 6-4 (+15) Penn St. 6-4 (+10) N. Florida 6-4 (+9) ELIMINATED Austin Peay 6-4 (+6) ELIMINATED Vanderbilt 6-4 (+2) ELIMINATED UCF 5-5 (+52) ELIMINATED Georgia Tech 5-5 (+19) ELIMINATED Pacific 5-5 (+14) ELIMINATED N. Iowa 5-5 (+8) ELIMINATED High Point 5-5 (+8) ELIMINATED Buffalo 5-5 (+4) ELIMINATED W. Michigan 5-5 (+1) ELIMINATED Arkansas 5-5 (+1) ELIMINATED N. Colorado 5-5 (0) ELIMINATED Arkansas St. 5-5 (-5) ELIMINATED Auburn 5-5 (-5) ELIMINATED Delaware 5-5 (-7) ELIMINATED St. Francis (NY) 5-5 (-8) ELIMINATED Nebraska 5-5 (-9) ELIMINATED TX Arlington 5-5 (-11) ELIMINATED McNeese St. 5-5 (-11) ELIMINATED Wagner 5-5 (-20) ELIMINATED GA Southern 5-5 (-20) ELIMINATED Howard 5-5 (-26) ELIMINATED NJIT 5-5 (-37) ELIMINATED Winthrop 5-5 (-46) ELIMINATED Towson 4-6 (-21) ELIMINATED |
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Iowa State (Big 12, 23-12, 11-7) East Carolina (Conference USA, 23-12, 9-7) Elon (Southern, 21-12, 13-5) Southern Illinois (MVC, 14-17, 6-12) Marist (MAAC, 10-21, 6-12) Seattle (WAC, 8-22, 3-15) ------------------------------------------- Week 1 Iowa St.- 88, Seattle- 55 E. Carolina- 77, Marist- 60 Elon- 71, S. Illinois- 54 Week 2 E. Carolina- 87, Elon- 78 S. Illinois- 79, Seattle- 66 Iowa St.- 72, Marist- 63 Week 3 Iowa St.- 65, S. Illinois- 64 Elon- 67, Marist- 62 E. Carolina- 85, Seattle- 52 Week 4 Marist- 71, Seattle- 60 E. Carolina- 85, S. Illinois- 62 Iowa St.- 65, Elon- 55 Week 5 Iowa St.- 82, E. Carolina- 67 Seattle- 85, Elon- 73 S. Illinois- 68, Marist- 64 (OT) Here are the standings after Week 5: Iowa St. 5-0 (+68) E. Carolina 4-1 (+67) Elon 2-3 (-9) S. Illinois 2-3 (-24) Marist 1-4 (-24) Seattle 1-4 (-78) |
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Group 38
Week 6 Seattle- 87, Iowa St.- 82 Marist- 63, E. Carolina- 55 Elon- 66, S. Illinois- 52 Week 7 Elon- 71, E. Carolina- 68 Seattle- 68, S. Illinois- 64 Iowa St.- 75, Marist- 60 Week 8 Iowa St.- 70, S. Illinois- 60 Elon- 56, Marist- 52 E. Carolina- 73, Seattle- 57 Week 9 Seattle- 67, Marist- 61 E. Carolina- 57, S. Illinois- 56 Iowa St.- 78, Elon- 64 Here are the standings after Week 9: Iowa St. 8-1 (+102) E. Carolina 6-3 (+73) Elon 5-4 (-2) Seattle 4-5 (-79) S. Illinois 2-7 (-53) Marist 2-7 (-41) Week 10 Schedule: Iowa St. @ E. Carolina Seattle @ Elon S. Illinois @ Marist Iowa St. has already clinched the group and is playing for a better seed in the round of 128. If E. Carolina can beat Iowa St. they will lock up the runner-up spot. However, if Elon wins and E. Carolina loses, we'll have a tiebreaker for second. Seattle still has a chance to get third if they win and Elon loses, but Seattle has no chance at a wildcard berth. |
12-10-2013, 07:11 PM | #193 |
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Group 38
Week 10 E. Carolina- 80, Iowa St.- 70 Seattle- 62, Elon- 54 Marist- 76, S. Illinois- 58 Here are the final Group 38 standings: #1- Iowa St. 8-2 (+92) #2- E. Carolina 7-3 (+83) #3- Seattle 5-5 (-71) #4- Elon 5-5 (-10) #5- Marist 3-7 (-23) #6- S. Illinois 2-8 (-71) Iowa St. wins the group but that 8-2 record will make them a fairly low seed as there are a lot of 10-0 and 9-1 group winners ahead of them. They will gain a few seeds by being the best 8-2 group winner as far as point differential goes. E. Carolina has one of the top point differentials as far as a 7-3 group runner up goes. They could be a seed between 60-70. Seattle swept Elon, so they get the third spot. But that 5-5 record isn't enough to get them in wildcard contention, so they are eliminated. But they leave on a high note, winning 5 of their last 6, including a win over group winner Iowa St. This after an 0-4 start which saw them absolutely hammered in 2 of their first 3 games. Alas, they are going home, and here are the updated wildcard standings: N.C. Central 7-3 (+63) Jacksonville St. 7-3 (+55) E. Michigan 7-3 (+50) Texas 7-3 (+27) SE Missouri St. 7-3 (+23) Iona 6-4 (+116) Drexel 6-4 (+46) LSU 6-4 (+44) Vermont 6-4 (+43) Stanford 6-4 (+20) #15 St. Louis 6-4 (+15) Penn St. 6-4 (+10) N. Florida 6-4 (+9) ELIMINATED Austin Peay 6-4 (+6) ELIMINATED Vanderbilt 6-4 (+2) ELIMINATED UCF 5-5 (+52) ELIMINATED Georgia Tech 5-5 (+19) ELIMINATED Pacific 5-5 (+14) ELIMINATED N. Iowa 5-5 (+8) ELIMINATED High Point 5-5 (+8) ELIMINATED Buffalo 5-5 (+4) ELIMINATED W. Michigan 5-5 (+1) ELIMINATED Arkansas 5-5 (+1) ELIMINATED N. Colorado 5-5 (0) ELIMINATED Arkansas St. 5-5 (-5) ELIMINATED Auburn 5-5 (-5) ELIMINATED Delaware 5-5 (-7) ELIMINATED St. Francis (NY) 5-5 (-8) ELIMINATED Nebraska 5-5 (-9) ELIMINATED TX Arlington 5-5 (-11) ELIMINATED McNeese St. 5-5 (-11) ELIMINATED Wagner 5-5 (-20) ELIMINATED GA Southern 5-5 (-20) ELIMINATED Howard 5-5 (-26) ELIMINATED NJIT 5-5 (-37) ELIMINATED Winthrop 5-5 (-46) ELIMINATED Seattle 5-5 (-71) ELIMINATED Towson 4-6 (-21) ELIMINATED |
12-11-2013, 07:50 AM | #194 |
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The last two third place teams have been the opposite of solid.
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12-11-2013, 08:31 AM | #195 |
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I enjoy these down bracket groups that are headlined by weak NCAA or strong NIT teams and we get closer and closer in talent level. We have yet to really see a big cluster at the top of a series that I can remember and I'm hoping to see one at some point. However, it may be that even tho the talent level at 1-2 is getting lower, it's hard for 3-4 to reach up there
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12-11-2013, 11:27 AM | #196 |
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Just caught up on this dynasty. Great stuff so far!
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12-11-2013, 06:35 PM | #197 |
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StLee, exactly what I was thinking. I wonder if that will become the trend within the last 20 groups.
SI, I think your theory may be right. I think there will be a major difference between the 1st/2nd place teams and the 3rd place team in several of the groups. I could be wrong, I'm interested to see how it plays out. WIS seems to like occasional upsets, so anything can happen. britrock, thanks for following along. Always enjoy your insight! |
12-11-2013, 06:48 PM | #198 |
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Group 39
Florida Gulf Coast (Atlantic Sun, 26-11, 13-5) Charlotte (Atlantic 10, 21-12, 8-8) Norfolk State (MEAC, 21-12, 16-0) Morehead State (Ohio Valley, 15-18, 8-8) Colgate (Patriot, 11-21, 5-9) UMKC (Summit, 8-24, 5-11) ----------------------------------------------- Week 1 FGCU- 68, UMKC- 55 Charlotte- 74, Colgate- 65 Morehead St.- 66, Norfolk St.- 64 Week 2 Charlotte- 83, Norfolk St.- 82 (2 OT) Morehead St.- 68, UMKC- 51 FGCU- 65, Colgate- 59 Week 3 FGCU- 75, Morehead St.- 63 Norfolk St.- 66, Colgate- 56 UMKC- 72, Charlotte- 53 Week 4 Colgate- 60, UMKC- 45 Morehead St.- 76, Charlotte- 61 Norfolk St.- 64, FGCU- 61 Week 5 FGCU- 69, Charlotte- 57 UMKC- 64, Norfolk St.- 45 Morehead St.- 61, Colgate- 51 Here are the standings after Week 5: FGCU 4-1 (+40) Morehead St. 4-1 (+32) UMKC 2-3 (-7) Charlotte 2-3 (-36) Norfolk St. 2-3 (-9) Colgate 1-4 (-20) |
12-11-2013, 06:58 PM | #199 |
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Group 39
Week 6 FGCU- 57, UMKC- 40 Charlotte- 78, Colgate- 64 Morehead St.- 78, Norfolk St.- 64 Week 7 Charlotte- 66, Norfolk St.- 51 Morehead St.- 60, UMKC- 51 FGCU- 66, Colgate- 42 Week 8 Morehead St.- 75, FGCU- 69 Norfolk St.- 56, Colgate- 36 Charlotte- 63, UMKC- 49 Week 9 Colgate- 56, UMKC- 52 Morehead St.- 81, Charlotte- 64 FGCU- 78, Norfolk St.- 64 Here are the standings after Week 9: Morehead St. 8-1 (+78) FGCU 7-2 (+89) Charlotte 5-4 (-10) Norfolk St. 3-6 (-32) Colgate 2-7 (-74) UMKC 2-7 (-51) Week 10 Schedule: FGCU @ Charlotte UMKC @ Norfolk St. Morehead St. @ Colgate Pretty simple for Morehead St.: they win and they clinch the group. A loss combined with an FGCU win forces a tiebreaker for the group title. (Here's a little bit of drama for you at least SI). There is some wildcard drama as Charlotte has a chance! A slight chance, they must beat FGCU by 20 or more (Penn St. is on the chopping block with a 6-4 (+10) mark) to stay alive. No easy task. Time to see how it plays out! |
12-11-2013, 07:08 PM | #200 |
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Group 39
Week 10 Charlotte- 63, FGCU- 53 UMKC- 53, Norfolk St.- 50 (OT) Colgate- 82, Morehead St.- 66 Final Group 39 standings: #1- Morehead St. 8-2 (+62) #2- FGCU 7-3 (+79) #3- Charlotte 6-4 (0) #4- Norfolk St. 3-7 (-35) #5- UMKC 3-7 (-48) #6- Colgate 3-7 (-58) The only drama in this group came with the bottom 3 teams needing a tiebreaker. Knowing that none of those teams were moving on, I basically just used point differential as tiebreaker. Not a big deal, as they were all 2-2 against each other anyways, so point differential would have been the tiebreaker anyways. As far as the top 3 teams, Morehead St. backs into the group title since both they and FGCU lost. This is a group winner that certainly doesn't strike fear into many teams, as they'll be at the bottom of the group winners. FGCU, who was expected to win this group, falls short, but they should still see a top 75 seed. And we come to Charlotte, who got the win they needed, but not by enough. Their even point differential with the 6-4 record means they will go home, and Penn St. can dance for at least another group. Here are the updated wildcard standings: N.C. Central 7-3 (+63) Jacksonville St. 7-3 (+55) E. Michigan 7-3 (+50) Texas 7-3 (+27) SE Missouri St. 7-3 (+23) Iona 6-4 (+116) Drexel 6-4 (+46) LSU 6-4 (+44) Vermont 6-4 (+43) Stanford 6-4 (+20) #15 St. Louis 6-4 (+15) Penn St. 6-4 (+10) N. Florida 6-4 (+9) ELIMINATED Austin Peay 6-4 (+6) ELIMINATED Vanderbilt 6-4 (+2) ELIMINATED Charlotte 6-4 (0) ELIMINATED UCF 5-5 (+52) ELIMINATED Georgia Tech 5-5 (+19) ELIMINATED Pacific 5-5 (+14) ELIMINATED N. Iowa 5-5 (+8) ELIMINATED High Point 5-5 (+8) ELIMINATED Buffalo 5-5 (+4) ELIMINATED W. Michigan 5-5 (+1) ELIMINATED Arkansas 5-5 (+1) ELIMINATED N. Colorado 5-5 (0) ELIMINATED Arkansas St. 5-5 (-5) ELIMINATED Auburn 5-5 (-5) ELIMINATED Delaware 5-5 (-7) ELIMINATED St. Francis (NY) 5-5 (-8) ELIMINATED Nebraska 5-5 (-9) ELIMINATED TX Arlington 5-5 (-11) ELIMINATED McNeese St. 5-5 (-11) ELIMINATED Wagner 5-5 (-20) ELIMINATED GA Southern 5-5 (-20) ELIMINATED Howard 5-5 (-26) ELIMINATED NJIT 5-5 (-37) ELIMINATED Winthrop 5-5 (-46) ELIMINATED Seattle 5-5 (-71) ELIMINATED Towson 4-6 (-21) ELIMINATED |
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