Werewolf XXX: The Ghost Council of Orzhova - Game Over - Game Ends Night Five - Page 4

saldana · 07-31-2006, 06:36 PM

dola, why are you out to get me too....i didnt do anything to you.

Chubby · 07-31-2006, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by saldana

no, and if you dont stop pissing me off, i will be voting for you next

Saldana - He's talking about this quote. Who is it to and why?

saldana · 07-31-2006, 06:37 PM

dola, blade broke up my dola, that last dola was to him

saldana · 07-31-2006, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Chubby

Saldana - He's talking about this quote. Who is it to and why?

i have no idea

Chubby · 07-31-2006, 06:40 PM

Saldana - You were obviously threatening someone... and it's very strange to me that you say you have no idea who it was to...

Fouts · 07-31-2006, 06:51 PM

Saldana is acting mighty strange. Is that part of the game?

Fouts · 07-31-2006, 06:55 PM

You know what? That's enough for me on day one.

Vote saldana

Schmidty · 07-31-2006, 06:59 PM

Dude, saldana is the man, but he's acting freaking wierd, and on day 1, what else is there to go on?

Unvote Blade

Vote saldana

saldana · 07-31-2006, 07:03 PM

why would you vote for me...i havent done anything except be the only source of information about the M:TG world that you have...weird shit happens in the magical world...all i did was say i have no idea who i was talking to....compared to a freaking doppleganger version on anxiety walking around for 3 months, i dont think that is a completely out of the question occurance.

saldana · 07-31-2006, 07:04 PM

OF anxiety.....a doppleganger version OF anxiety.....damn no edit rules.

Abe Sargent · 07-31-2006, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by saldana

OF anxiety.....a doppleganger version OF anxiety.....damn no edit rules.

Doppelganger on Anxiety? I wonder what that would be like?

saldana · 07-31-2006, 07:08 PM

seriously, think about it, no one here had any idea that i have a box of 5000 magic cards in my closet....if i were a bad guy, would i have offered up any advice or information about how the game worked....no i would have just sat back and used my knowledge to my own advantage or shared it with my wolf friends.

instead, i put a target on my back by showing that i may have additional insights because of my familiarity with the card game. i really think you should reconsider your votes.

Fouts · 07-31-2006, 07:09 PM

Well, I don't know if you are with the bad guys, but you are acting weird.

What other choices do you recommend?

saldana · 07-31-2006, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Anxiety

Doppelganger on Anxiety? I wonder what that would be like?

depends on whose form it takes.....*envisions doppleganger of rosanne barr*

Fouts · 07-31-2006, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by saldana

seriously, think about it, no one here had any idea that i have a box of 5000 magic cards in my closet....if i were a bad guy, would i have offered up any advice or information about how the game worked....no i would have just sat back and used my knowledge to my own advantage or shared it with my wolf friends.

instead, i put a target on my back by showing that i may have additional insights because of my familiarity with the card game. i really think you should reconsider your votes.

I will admit you have knowledge of the Magic game, but I'm not convinced that you offered up anything useful.

saldana · 07-31-2006, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Fouts

Well, I don't know if you are with the bad guys, but you are acting weird.

What other choices do you recommend?

i dont have any serious contenders right now, it is only day one after all....and it wouldnt be the first time someone acted weird in a WW game....i'm just saying lynching me is not a good idea.

saldana · 07-31-2006, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Fouts

I will admit you have knowledge of the Magic game, but I'm not convinced that you offered up anything useful.

its hard to offer up specifics when we dont know how much has been drawn directly from the cards and how much is anxiety's original content.

if i were a wolf, why would i try to help at all...i could have just stayed silent and no one would have been the wiser.

Chubby · 07-31-2006, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by saldana

its hard to offer up specifics when we dont know how much has been drawn directly from the cards and how much is anxiety's original content.

if i were a wolf, why would i try to help at all...i could have just stayed silent and no one would have been the wiser.

i'd love to know who you were threatening to vote for...

saldana · 07-31-2006, 07:18 PM

anyone have a vote count?

i know i have 3

Fouts · 07-31-2006, 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saldana

its hard to offer up specifics when we dont know how much has been drawn directly from the cards and how much is anxiety's original content.

if i were a wolf, why would i try to help at all...i could have just stayed silent and no one would have been the wiser.

Good point, but who else do I vote for? Ugh.

Unvote saldana

saldana · 07-31-2006, 07:28 PM

if it makes you feel any better fouts, i have the same problem...thanks for unvoting me though, i promise it was the right move.

Alan T · 07-31-2006, 07:32 PM

Vote hoops

more a day 1 type vote where I had to vote for someone than anything else/

hoopsguy · 07-31-2006, 07:35 PM

Chubby - Cronin (134)
Barkeep - Path (136)
Saldana - Blade (139), Schmidty (158)
Fouts - Chubby (143)
Hoops - AlanT (172)

Vote counts as of Post #172

st.cronin · 07-31-2006, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

I've got nothing right now. Let me just say this, as a bit of a contrarian: If bribing is an essential part of the game, it seems to me that it makes sense for the bad guys to reveal that just as much as the good guys. Since the knowledge is going to come out sooner or later why not present it first? But I've got nothing.

I thought about that as well, which is why Alan is not absolutely trusted. And saldana ... wtf man.

Alan T · 07-31-2006, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

I thought about that as well, which is why Alan is not absolutely trusted. And saldana ... wtf man.

My thoughts was it is far more likely that the bad guys didnt get any indication to how easy or hard it is to bribe various good guys like the good people did. I know my pm told me what the likely result of someone trying to bribe me would be.

I found it interesting that hoops was oblivious to even knowing bribing was in the game (at least publically).

I can't quote a PM, but I am betting I know what St cronin's says about being bribed.

Fouts · 07-31-2006, 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan T

My thoughts was it is far more likely that the bad guys didnt get any indication to how easy or hard it is to bribe various good guys like the good people did. I know my pm told me what the likely result of someone trying to bribe me would be.

I found it interesting that hoops was oblivious to even knowing bribing was in the game (at least publically).

I can't quote a PM, but I am betting I know what St cronin's says about being bribed.

I agree with you here. While bribing isn't specifically mentioned, I have a strong feeling it can happen.

hoopsguy · 07-31-2006, 07:45 PM

I think Alan put himself out there a little bit with his information - which is either going to lead to a quick death or being vouched for, in all likelihood.

If there is a seer role, and they have reason to think he is making a move here, then he has put himself near the front of the list of people to check. All in all, there has not been a whole lot of risk-taking by this group today in terms of posts.

Deadline is coming up quickly - 75 minutes.

Without any more information coming in, I can tell you who I won't be voting for today:
1.) Saldana - would prefer to have someone who understands this universe around longer, if possible
2.) AlanT - reasons listed above, even if he is voting for me at the moment

Fouts · 07-31-2006, 07:47 PM

I'm going to break the new guy in. He hasn't said much, so lets see if this wakes him up.

Vote Chief Rum

Fouts · 07-31-2006, 07:47 PM

Ugh, rookie mistake.

Vote Chief Rum

hoopsguy · 07-31-2006, 07:47 PM

Alan, assuming we are both around tomorrow I would like to revisit the topic of bribery then.

Swaggs · 07-31-2006, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan T

My thoughts was it is far more likely that the bad guys didnt get any indication to how easy or hard it is to bribe various good guys like the good people did. I know my pm told me what the likely result of someone trying to bribe me would be.

I found it interesting that hoops was oblivious to even knowing bribing was in the game (at least publically).

I can't quote a PM, but I am betting I know what St cronin's says about being bribed.

Not to latch on too much here, but I am with Alan on this one. And add in that I think it would have been a good strategy for the bad guys to kind of blow off the idea of there being bribes, so it stays under the radar awhile, until they can take advantage of it.

It might be a stretch, but I think it is more than we usually have to go on after one day.

Vote Hoops.

st.cronin · 07-31-2006, 07:58 PM

UNVOTE CHUBBY

VOTE FOUTS

To hopefully avoid a tie...

st.cronin · 07-31-2006, 07:58 PM

Dola

Whoops, I thought we are at the deadline, but we've another hour.

UNVOTE FOUTS

Fouts · 07-31-2006, 08:05 PM

Very suspicious move cronin. Last minute vote and how does it avoid a tie?

path12 · 07-31-2006, 08:09 PM

I find it odd also. And why would a tie be bad (unless of course it means no lynch and a freebie for the bad guys)? I don't see any tiebreaker info, might we assume that one of us has the ability to break one?

tanglewood · 07-31-2006, 08:09 PM

Saldana's act of random threat then subsequent denial of even saying it was very odd, but I think it's more a sign that he has been manipulated by someone else than that he may be evil himself.

Still musing over who to vote for today, no real obvious guy has jumped out at me as of yet.

st.cronin · 07-31-2006, 08:09 PM

There were two votes on saldana, and I believe two on hoops. Plus my vote counts double, so that's a three way tie. And a tie on day 1 is pretty much the dream outcome for the bad guys.

saldana · 07-31-2006, 08:10 PM

hey guys. just wanted to pop in real quick and say that RL has reared its ugly head (i am at work), so i will be back in just before the deadline

Fouts · 07-31-2006, 08:10 PM

Ah he has two votes. I think I need to make a self preservation move.

st.cronin · 07-31-2006, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by path12

I find it odd also. And why would a tie be bad (unless of course it means no lynch and a freebie for the bad guys)? I don't see any tiebreaker info, might we assume that one of us has the ability to break one?

A tie usually means either no lynch, or else that a duke has to blow his role before really collecting any information.

Fouts · 07-31-2006, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

There were two votes on saldana, and I believe two on hoops. Plus my vote counts double, so that's a three way tie. And a tie on day 1 is pretty much the dream outcome for the bad guys.

No, thats 3 votes on me. You are trying to kill me.

Blade6119 · 07-31-2006, 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saldana

its hard to offer up specifics when we dont know how much has been drawn directly from the cards and how much is anxiety's original content.

if i were a wolf, why would i try to help at all...i could have just stayed silent and no one would have been the wiser.

No, because by offering that information you seem helpful and trustworthy. It gives you leverage, which you are using right here. Im not saying it damns you in an way, but i dont see how giving the knowledge(like how many cards you have closet...) is any help, considering i dont see any really good knowledge or anything a wolf would not want to give.

Not trying to screw you here, but you seemed to sway fouts for reasons i dont beleive.

hoopsguy · 07-31-2006, 08:16 PM

I'm obviously a fan of Cronin trying to avoid seeing me, or one of the two people I said I would prefer not to vote for (Saldana), ending up in a tie today.

Nor did I really want to be stuck in a position of having to make self-preservation votes on Day 1. I'm hoping that chance moves in another direction in the next 45 minutes so I can actually cast a vote towards someone who I wouldn't mind voting for ...

st.cronin · 07-31-2006, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Fouts

No, thats 3 votes on me. You are trying to kill me.

lol there were three votes on you AFTER I voted for you ... and give me a reason not to kill you - I'm just trying to get rid of the Dimri, sir ...

hoopsguy · 07-31-2006, 08:18 PM

I'll put a vote on someone who seemed even more casual with his vote than most of the others today.

Vote Path

st.cronin · 07-31-2006, 08:20 PM

Somebody take a guess who manipulated saldana. I have a couple guys in mind, I'd like to hear ideas.

Fouts · 07-31-2006, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

lol there were three votes on you AFTER I voted for you ... and give me a reason not to kill you - I'm just trying to get rid of the Dimri, sir ...

If you are Orzhov, you want me to stick around.

Blade6119 · 07-31-2006, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

Somebody take a guess who manipulated saldana. I have a couple guys in mind, I'd like to hear ideas.

Why are we assuming he was manipulated? If he was, by far it would be you since i thought when i first read the comment it was you since chubby had voted for you.

Im far more likely to believe saldana read the vote as for him and reacted, then realized his mistake but it was too late to change the post. A slip up of sorts, which is the best i see today

Blade6119 · 07-31-2006, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by saldana

dola, why are you out to get me too....i didnt do anything to you.

So who is out to get you? Just wondering, as you assume me and someone else you have yet to name

Swaggs · 07-31-2006, 08:24 PM

I don't know if this is something we want to reveal this early or not, but does everyone have some type of magical ability or are there "simple villagers" in this game?

I will reveal that I have a very modest magical skill.

07-31-2006, 07:58 PM	#182
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	UNVOTE CHUBBY VOTE FOUTS To hopefully avoid a tie... __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

07-31-2006, 07:58 PM	#183
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	Dola Whoops, I thought we are at the deadline, but we've another hour. UNVOTE FOUTS __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

07-31-2006, 08:09 PM	#185
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	I find it odd also. And why would a tie be bad (unless of course it means no lynch and a freebie for the bad guys)? I don't see any tiebreaker info, might we assume that one of us has the ability to break one? __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

07-31-2006, 08:09 PM	#187
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	There were two votes on saldana, and I believe two on hoops. Plus my vote counts double, so that's a three way tie. And a tie on day 1 is pretty much the dream outcome for the bad guys. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

07-31-2006, 08:20 PM	#196
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	Somebody take a guess who manipulated saldana. I have a couple guys in mind, I'd like to hear ideas. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

07-31-2006, 06:36 PM	#151
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	dola, why are you out to get me too....i didnt do anything to you.

07-31-2006, 06:37 PM	#153
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	dola, blade broke up my dola, that last dola was to him

07-31-2006, 06:40 PM	#155
Chubby Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Syracuse, NY	Saldana - You were obviously threatening someone... and it's very strange to me that you say you have no idea who it was to...

07-31-2006, 06:51 PM	#156
Fouts College Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: California	Saldana is acting mighty strange. Is that part of the game?

07-31-2006, 06:55 PM	#157
Fouts College Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: California	You know what? That's enough for me on day one. Vote saldana

07-31-2006, 06:59 PM	#158
Schmidty Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Early, TX	Dude, saldana is the man, but he's acting freaking wierd, and on day 1, what else is there to go on? Unvote Blade Vote saldana

07-31-2006, 07:03 PM	#159
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	why would you vote for me...i havent done anything except be the only source of information about the M:TG world that you have...weird shit happens in the magical world...all i did was say i have no idea who i was talking to....compared to a freaking doppleganger version on anxiety walking around for 3 months, i dont think that is a completely out of the question occurance.

07-31-2006, 07:04 PM	#160
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	OF anxiety.....a doppleganger version OF anxiety.....damn no edit rules.

07-31-2006, 07:08 PM	#162
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	seriously, think about it, no one here had any idea that i have a box of 5000 magic cards in my closet....if i were a bad guy, would i have offered up any advice or information about how the game worked....no i would have just sat back and used my knowledge to my own advantage or shared it with my wolf friends. instead, i put a target on my back by showing that i may have additional insights because of my familiarity with the card game. i really think you should reconsider your votes.

07-31-2006, 07:09 PM	#163
Fouts College Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: California	Well, I don't know if you are with the bad guys, but you are acting weird. What other choices do you recommend?

07-31-2006, 07:18 PM	#169
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	anyone have a vote count? i know i have 3

07-31-2006, 07:28 PM	#171
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	if it makes you feel any better fouts, i have the same problem...thanks for unvoting me though, i promise it was the right move.

07-31-2006, 07:32 PM	#172
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	Vote hoops more a day 1 type vote where I had to vote for someone than anything else/

07-31-2006, 07:35 PM	#173
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Chubby - Cronin (134) Barkeep - Path (136) Saldana - Blade (139), Schmidty (158) Fouts - Chubby (143) Hoops - AlanT (172) Vote counts as of Post #172

07-31-2006, 07:45 PM	#177
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	I think Alan put himself out there a little bit with his information - which is either going to lead to a quick death or being vouched for, in all likelihood. If there is a seer role, and they have reason to think he is making a move here, then he has put himself near the front of the list of people to check. All in all, there has not been a whole lot of risk-taking by this group today in terms of posts. Deadline is coming up quickly - 75 minutes. Without any more information coming in, I can tell you who I won't be voting for today: 1.) Saldana - would prefer to have someone who understands this universe around longer, if possible 2.) AlanT - reasons listed above, even if he is voting for me at the moment

07-31-2006, 07:47 PM	#178
Fouts College Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: California	I'm going to break the new guy in. He hasn't said much, so lets see if this wakes him up. Vote Chief Rum

07-31-2006, 07:47 PM	#179
Fouts College Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: California	Ugh, rookie mistake. Vote Chief Rum

07-31-2006, 07:47 PM	#180
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Alan, assuming we are both around tomorrow I would like to revisit the topic of bribery then.

07-31-2006, 08:05 PM	#184
Fouts College Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: California	Very suspicious move cronin. Last minute vote and how does it avoid a tie?

07-31-2006, 08:09 PM	#186
tanglewood College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2004	Saldana's act of random threat then subsequent denial of even saying it was very odd, but I think it's more a sign that he has been manipulated by someone else than that he may be evil himself. Still musing over who to vote for today, no real obvious guy has jumped out at me as of yet.

07-31-2006, 08:10 PM	#188
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	hey guys. just wanted to pop in real quick and say that RL has reared its ugly head (i am at work), so i will be back in just before the deadline

07-31-2006, 08:10 PM	#189
Fouts College Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: California	Ah he has two votes. I think I need to make a self preservation move.

07-31-2006, 08:16 PM	#193
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	I'm obviously a fan of Cronin trying to avoid seeing me, or one of the two people I said I would prefer not to vote for (Saldana), ending up in a tie today. Nor did I really want to be stuck in a position of having to make self-preservation votes on Day 1. I'm hoping that chance moves in another direction in the next 45 minutes so I can actually cast a vote towards someone who I wouldn't mind voting for ...

07-31-2006, 08:18 PM	#195
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	I'll put a vote on someone who seemed even more casual with his vote than most of the others today. Vote Path

07-31-2006, 08:24 PM	#200
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	I don't know if this is something we want to reveal this early or not, but does everyone have some type of magical ability or are there "simple villagers" in this game? I will reveal that I have a very modest magical skill. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

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