Werewolf 40,000: The Horus Heresy CHAOS DEFEATED; MUTANTS SURVIVE

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by path12

I'd think even if he has some kind of seer role, that day 1 he likely doesn't have any more information than any of the rest of us and that his comment was more general. Would like to have GE clarify though.

There have been roles before that allow people to know vague information about other people voting with them, or in a conversation at the same time or such. I don't think it can automatically be assumed that he doesn't have the ability to send a PM as a day move to get information on "something". His job is afterall to hunt out the chaos. He has to have -some- tools to do so.

[Mustang]

Originally Posted by path12

Now that we know that the emperor must stay alive, I guess the next question would be something along the lines of: if st. cronin dies then and there's nobody else who knows the entire procedure for keeping the machine going, would that trigger a sudden emperor death or would we have a certain amount of time to get rid of the Chaos?

The group that is responsible for keeping the emperor alive will still be there so, I would not expect that if st. cronin dies the emperor would be in any immediate peril.

[Mustang]

Vote Kingfc22

No reason other than 1st day tit for tat. (And that I have a gawd awful headache and need to lay down. Last game I forgot to vote on day 1 and ewwww weeee... don't want to go down that path again)

I have no reason to hold what realdeal has done against him or to pile on Bulletsponge for gifs. (Although, kinda like them myself...)

[bulletsponge]

Originally Posted by Mustang

Vote Kingfc22

No reason other than 1st day tit for tat. (And that I have a gawd awful headache and need to lay down. Last game I forgot to vote on day 1 and ewwww weeee... don't want to go down that path again)

I have no reason to hold what realdeal has done against him or to pile on Bulletsponge for gifs. (Although, kinda like them myself...)

well im glad someone likes my wolf smileys

if anyone wants to know where i get them from PM me.

[Blade6119]

F**CKING DESK JOBS!!!

[BrianD]

Anyone been hanging around here today but not saying much?

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by Fouts

Good question. I took it to mean that it was someone involved in the conversation when he said it. Those conversing approx the last 10 minutes before his post;

Mustang
BrianD
Tanglewood
Alan
bullet
st.cronin

Tangle is the admin, so i doubt its him.

As for GE, he killed torgo based on smell. So i assumed he recieved a PM saying he smelled one during that conversation.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by BrianD

Anyone been hanging around here today but not saying much?

Me...the un-appreciated war hero who basically is a political symbol now...GET ME OUT OF THE DAMN OFFICE AND BACK ONTO THE FIELDS OF WAR!!!!!

[Fouts]

Originally Posted by bulletsponge

well im glad someone likes my wolf smileys

if anyone wants to know where i get them from PM me.

Or we could right click and select properties.

[bulletsponge]

Originally Posted by Fouts

Or we could right click and select properties.

whoa, your wolf looks like he coked out of his mind!

[RealDeal]

Well, not having a lot to go on except what might be a hint from GE:

Mustang
BrianD
Tanglewood
Alan
bullet
st.cronin

Currently bullet has the most votes, and I believe that BrianD, Mustang and St. Cronin all have at least one vote from this list. I don't want to see a bandwagon vote on the first day because we get no info, so I will vote for one of the three with one vote to tighten things up. From this list, I'm basically picking randomly.

Vote Mustang

[GoldenEagle]

Originally Posted by Blade611

As for GE, he killed torgo based on smell. So i assumed he recieved a PM saying he smelled one during that conversation.

It says right there in the post that I smelled one.

[GoldenEagle]

Dola,

Post #59. Sorry for not giving the post number.

[bulletsponge]

dola odd it didnt work that time

[BrianD]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

Tangle is the admin, so i doubt its him.

As for GE, he killed torgo based on smell. So i assumed he recieved a PM saying he smelled one during that conversation.

Torgo is also in the box, so it was convenient to use him as a game starter.

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by Mustang

The group that is responsible for keeping the emperor alive will still be there so, I would not expect that if st. cronin dies the emperor would be in any immediate peril.

I think this is true - I suspect I am expendable.

Originally Posted by GoldenEagle

It says right there in the post that I smelled one.

Have you smelled another one, besides DaddyTorgo?

[RealDeal]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

I think this is true - I suspect I am expendable.



Have you smelled another one, besides DaddyTorgo?

I assumed that he did smell one other than Torgo because Torgo was never "among us".

[BrianD]

I don't really know what to do with this vote, but since he voted for me...

Vote st.cronin

...for now.

[GoldenEagle]

I do not think RealDeal is bad and here is why: He is challenging a seer to view him tonight. Is that something a chaos or mutant would want? He is throwing his name out in the ring and saying come and get me. It does not make much sense in either direction, but it makes more sense if he is one of us.

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by RealDeal

I assumed that he did smell one other than Torgo because Torgo was never "among us".

Except that the post he referenced was #59. If he did smell another one, it would be helpful if he could give us some more info. He should also clear up IF he smelled another one, because I'm still a little puzzled on that point.

[BrianD]

I changed my mind, st.cronin's knowledge of the Emperor's throne seems important.

Unvote st.cronin
Vote Greyroofoo

His job seems less essential.

[SirFozzie]

he could be hoping that the seer would say "If I scan him and he's not.. then I've wasted a scan.. best to take him at his word."

Or... he could be trying a 1-1 switch. Chaos with the abilty to take someone down with him, maybe? Seer scans him, finds out what he is, and announces it to the world, exposing the seer.

Again, don't take him at his word, but don't automatically assume he's lying either.

[BrianD]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

Except that the post he referenced was #59. If he did smell another one, it would be helpful if he could give us some more info. He should also clear up IF he smelled another one, because I'm still a little puzzled on that point.

Maybe he was smelling himself...

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by SirFozzie

he could be hoping that the seer would say "If I scan him and he's not.. then I've wasted a scan.. best to take him at his word."

I hope the seer doesn't think this way. A scan that clears is as useful as a scan that condemns. The only wasted scan is when you scan somebody who dies that night.

My own opinion, of course.

[Greyroofoo]

BrianD

He voted for me and I don't see the Space Marine Primarchs as important.

Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong about the Primarchs.

[Greyroofoo]

sorry
vote BrianD

[BrianD]

Originally Posted by Greyroofoo

BrianD

He voted for me and I don't see the Space Marine Primarchs as important.

Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong about the Primarchs.

But we are marines. We fight and stuff. Surely that must be important, right? Right?...anyone?...*crickets*.

[Fouts]

It seems the clue from GE was a wild goose chase as he was refering to the game start post. 3.5 hours to go and no new information. At least we have (what seems like) a higher probability of nailing a bad guy than in past games.

[path12]

I think I'm fine with where my vote is now. Besides, it seems a more expendable role than some others.

On another note, I've made up my mind on who to put in the cell tonight. I don't think it's necessary to make public exactly who.

[saldana]

Originally Posted by GoldenEagle

I do not think RealDeal is bad and here is why: He is challenging a seer to view him tonight. Is that something a chaos or mutant would want? He is throwing his name out in the ring and saying come and get me. It does not make much sense in either direction, but it makes more sense if he is one of us.

GE, this is why i am on about RD...there is a role that has been in many WW games called the cunning wolf...it can appear in several ways...either upon they die as a human even though they are a wolf, or they scan as a human when viewed by a seer....if the latter is the case, you want to beg to be scanned, because you are then hiding in plain sight...the seer thinks you are clear, and since you have said you cant die at night, no one will suspect you when you show up every morning.

also, daring the seer to view him tonight is a moot point....regardless of his role, the seer would be making a huge mistake if they came out on day 2 and said..."i am the seer, i viewed tanglewood last night and he is a wolf/villager"...no seer in their right mind would make a reveal after only one scan, because it would mean they would only get one more scan after that before they were dead meat. if you get a hit on night one, you try and make some associations between that player and someone else, then scan them, trying to expand the circle of evil based on a known starting point.

[Mustang]

Originally Posted by Greyroofoo

BrianD

He voted for me and I don't see the Space Marine Primarchs as important.

I hope everyone doesn't stray down the path to take titles as a an indication of everyone's roles.. could be a few wasted days if that was true (or a really fast game). I wouldn't think it would be as clean and easy to expect that.

[Greyroofoo]

I'm just saying, its not like we have only one primarch.

THE EMPEROR MUST BE FED!

[tanglewood]

Current Day 1 Vote Count

bulletsponge 3 - AlanT, Fouts, Swaggs
BrianD 2 - st.cronin, Greyroofoo
kingfc22 2 - Mustang, RealDeal
Swaggs 1 - Chief Rum
RealDeal 2 - saldana, path12
st.cronin 1 - Blade
Anxiety 1 - twothree
Mustang 1 - kingfc22
Chief Rum 1 - bulletsponge
Greyroofoo 1 - BrianD

Yet To Vote: SirFozzie, GoldenEagle, Anxiety

[tanglewood]

One hour and fifty minutes to the deadline.

[bulletsponge]

Originally Posted by tanglewood

Current Day 1 Vote Count

bulletsponge 3 - AlanT, Fouts, Swaggs
BrianD 2 - st.cronin, Greyroofoo
kingfc22 2 - Mustang, RealDeal
Swaggs 1 - Chief Rum
RealDeal 2 - saldana, path12
st.cronin 1 - Blade
Anxiety 1 - twothree
Mustang 1 - kingfc22
Chief Rum 1 - bulletsponge
Greyroofoo 1 - BrianD

Yet To Vote: SirFozzie, GoldenEagle, Anxiety

hmmm, my fate lies in the hands of 2 peeps that i ate for dinner last game. how do we get executed in this game?

[st.cronin]

very close vote

Anybody think I should maybe move my vote?

[bulletsponge]

what happens if there is a tie?

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

very close vote

Anybody think I should maybe move my vote?

I bet BrianD thinks you should!

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by bulletsponge

what happens if there is a tie?

Just from the way things are worded in the description, I would assume Fouts has a tiebreaker of sorts. Since I have no idea if this is a one time use, conditional use or usable every day I don't know if ties = good in this game.

In some games tie = no lynch and a wasted day.

[saldana]

Originally Posted by bulletsponge

what happens if there is a tie?

we dont actually know in this game...there are lots of different ways to break the tie....weighted votes from one or more person, a single person making the decision, a duke with repetitive powers, accumulation, last vote cast, first vote cast...the list goes on.

[SirFozzie]

Damnit. I hate Day 1. Fucking crapshoot. Except for Real's "revelation" there's nothing to go by, and so many people have different votes.

I'm going by feel here.

I don't like RealDeal's reveal.. too convenient on day 1. But I'm not sure I can't afford to not believe it at least for now.

[Mustang]

As a note, Realdeal I thought voted for me w/Kingfc22.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by Alan T

Just from the way things are worded in the description, I would assume Fouts has a tiebreaker of sorts. Since I have no idea if this is a one time use, conditional use or usable every day I don't know if ties = good in this game.

In some games tie = no lynch and a wasted day.

Ya, i strongly feel fouts breaks ties

[Blade6119]

I should note saldana and his role intrigue me greatly...i am very interested in everything he does

[SirFozzie]

This is going to really suck.. there's usually two or three strong candidates on day 1, and later days you can work back to get voting blocs and trust circles. There's 10 of us with votes on us.. wtf can we learn here, unless the Chaos scum or mutant heretics are voting as a bloc.

I find bulletsponge's voting for a singleton to be very confusing. Right now, its his head on the chopping block to be fed to the Immortal Emperor.. and his vote could be forcing a tie.. but he doesn't. Why is that?

For now at least.. Vote bulletsponge

[Mustang]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

Ya, i strongly feel fouts breaks ties

That or, as the Master Administrator, he just makes sure all the TPS reports have cover sheets.

[path12]

Originally Posted by SirFozzie

This is going to really suck.. there's usually two or three strong candidates on day 1, and later days you can work back to get voting blocs and trust circles. There's 10 of us with votes on us.. wtf can we learn here, unless the Chaos scum or mutant heretics are voting as a bloc.

I find bulletsponge's voting for a singleton to be very confusing. Right now, its his head on the chopping block to be fed to the Immortal Emperor.. and his vote could be forcing a tie.. but he doesn't. Why is that?

For now at least.. Vote bulletsponge

I'd say if anything it makes me feel he's likely good.

[saldana]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

I should note saldana and his role intrigue me greatly...i am very interested in everything he does

not quite sure how to take that, but maybe its because i couldnt really understand you from behind the mountain of paper on your desk

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by tanglewood

In matters of great debate, the Master of the Administratum will often place the deciding vote and the other High Lords agree to abide by his wish.

Thats why he should break ties...it all but tells us

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by SirFozzie

But I'm not sure I can't afford to not believe it at least for now.

The rare TRIPLE negative!