Werewolf CXXVIII - The Original Werewolves - VILLAGERS WIN

[Danny]

btw, I take back my initial read on Jackal, he usually talks this much as a wolf :P

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by Danny

btw, I take back my initial read on Jackal, he usually talks this much as a wolf :P

haha, good, you'll be confused now when i come up villager! i don't want to be predictable!

[Autumn]

The sun sinks towards the horizon and the village stands gathered, shifting uncomfortably as they begin to count their votes.

[JAG]

Originally Posted by Zinto

I am trying now to strike the balance between barely talking and talking too much. If you never talk then you must be a wolf or a newbie. If you start posting too much everything you say gets over analyzed and bites you in the butt.

I get the sense from your post earlier today and this one that you're worried about seeming suspicious when you're a villager (presumably, though when you're a wolf this would be useful not to do as well). I would say, just play however is natural to you. I personally think it's more fun to talk and try to get ideas out that would help the village. If it comes across wolfish, well, I can't do much about that except try to put out ideas that would help whether or not I get lynched.

[Autumn]

Final Vote Count

Zinto 5 - JAG (52), Darth Vilus (81), saldana (93), dwardzala (94), The Jackal (128)
JAG 3 - Lathum (61), mauboy (84), Danny (96)
Darth Vilus 2 - Zinto (70), Chief Rum (83)
The Jackal 3 - mckerney (66), Barkeep49 (82), bhlloy (85)
Mckerney 1 - J23 (78)

[Autumn]

The villagers have a difficult time deciding who is at fault for the deaths. Every one of them is known to them all, it's hard to believe one could be a monster at heart. Rivalries with those they know well come to the fore, and suspicions of those they know little.

In the end, the village casts their votes and Zinto's name is in the lead. He does not struggle as he is led to the gallows and hung. The village dares not do any less to a suspected werewolf.

Zinto dies like a normal man. He was a villager.

[Autumn]

Night deadline is at 11 pm EST, in one hour. Please send in any night actions by then.

[Zinto]

Originally Posted by JAG

I get the sense from your post earlier today and this one that you're worried about seeming suspicious when you're a villager (presumably, though when you're a wolf this would be useful not to do as well). I would say, just play however is natural to you. I personally think it's more fun to talk and try to get ideas out that would help the village. If it comes across wolfish, well, I can't do much about that except try to put out ideas that would help whether or not I get lynched.

Yeah hopefully as I get a better understanding of the game and how to read into people's posts then I will be more active. For now I am just trying to put in logical input without over stepping my comfort level.

[Zinto]

Good luck villagers!

[JAG]

Bah.

[Danny]

Oh well

[mckerney]

At least we didn't kill or out a roled villager. :shrug:

[Autumn]

The night seems long and perilous to the villagers. They know that they did not lynch a werewolf tonight, and so one must reside amongst them still.

Yet when dawn breaks, the villagers emerge cautiously and gather. No one is missing. Could it be that they were wrong, that no werewolf lives among them? Or did fate somehow spare them tonight?

[The Jackal]

Good job BG! (presumably)

[Danny]

Yeah, in a simple game like this, I think it has to be BG block.

[mckerney]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

Good job BG! (presumably)

Hoping the BG was protecting someone other than themselves.

[Danny]

Originally Posted by Autumn

Final Vote Count

Zinto 5 - JAG (52), Darth Vilus (81), saldana (93), dwardzala (94), The Jackal (128)
JAG 3 - Lathum (61), mauboy (84), Danny (96)
Darth Vilus 2 - Zinto (70), Chief Rum (83)
The Jackal 3 - mckerney (66), Barkeep49 (82), bhlloy (85)
Mckerney 1 - J23 (78)

I think the pool of Zinto voters is a good place to look. I would be more suspicious of the first three names on this list, JAG, Darth and Saldana. Also to note, I was originally the second vote on Zinto, so my name should be included as well.

[Chief Rum]

Hmm, interesting night result. Does the BG learn anything from a block? That varies from game to game. If he learned nothing, then it would make sense to stay quiet. If he learned the identity of a wolf, that gets a little trickier. I think I would still hold out for the BG to stay quiet if he knows a wolf identity for a day or so, and let that wolf build up damning or revealing votes.

Sucks about Zinto. Day Ones always suck. At least he didn't have a role.

[mckerney]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Hmm, interesting night result. Does the BG learn anything from a block? That varies from game to game. If he learned nothing, then it would make sense to stay quiet. If he learned the identity of a wolf, that gets a little trickier. I think I would still hold out for the BG to stay quiet if he knows a wolf identity for a day or so, and let that wolf build up damning or revealing votes.

Sucks about Zinto. Day Ones always suck. At least he didn't have a role.

If learned the identity of a wolf and guarded himself it is probably be best to come forward. I'm guessing the likely wolf move is to hope for a common self guard move by the bodyguard and to hit the same person tonight.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by mckerney

If learned the identity of a wolf and guarded himself it is probably be best to come forward. I'm guessing the likely wolf move is to hope for a common self guard move by the bodyguard and to hit the same person tonight.

Good point. If he protected himself, which is a common Night One BG move, then the wolves will know who he is, so he might as well come out.

My guess, though, is that the BG was not informed.

[Chief Rum]

Hmm, just took a look at the roles, and it could also be that the Woodsman was attacked and simply survived the attack. It's possible the Woodsman simply hasn't checked in yet since the deadline.

[Chief Rum]

Nothing in the rules about conversion or the cultist/traitor becoming an actual wolf in case attacked, which is what I was looking for in the first place when I just looked at the roles right now.

Whatever happened with the night kill last night, short of the wolves simply not submitting a kill, it would appear that the action of some villager role is certainly behind the results.

[JAG]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Hmm, just took a look at the roles, and it could also be that the Woodsman was attacked and simply survived the attack. It's possible the Woodsman simply hasn't checked in yet since the deadline.

I was wondering if this was the case as well. Regardless I don't think either of these roles should come forward, especially in case both are present in the game, unless they can give us the wolf that attacked them of course, which I don't expect to be the case.

[JAG]

Originally Posted by Danny

I think the pool of Zinto voters is a good place to look. I would be more suspicious of the first three names on this list, JAG, Darth and Saldana. Also to note, I was originally the second vote on Zinto, so my name should be included as well.

I think it depends on whether or not we had another wolf on the block. In that case I would be more suspicious of the later voters on Zinto. If there were no wolves up there, then presumably they spread out and you're looking at only a 1 in 5 chance in Zinto voters (or 1 in 4) and probably an early voter on one of the four primary candidates. I'm not sure yet where to go for today.

[Lathum]

Gonna have very limited time today to post

Vote Jag

[JAG]

These European crickets seem to be drowning out all sound.

[J23]

Sorry I didn't make it back yesterday before deadline to make my vote matter. My b-day today and went out last night with some friends and got in late. I don't expect to be around too much later in the day today/tomorrow either unfortunately.

[JAG]

Cool, happy bday.

[Chief Rum]

Didn't we lynch Lathum on his birthday last year? I thought we were starting a tradition?

[The Jackal]

Hmm, DV still hasn't said much at all, and there's really nothing to go on to vote for anyone else at this point.

VOTE DV

[Autumn]

Zinto's body is quickly buried, so that the villagers don't need to remind themselves of their mistake. A cam falls on the village, as they begin to suspect that their troubles are over with, for whatever reason. They return to their daily work, unsure whether to cast a vote for another lynching.

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

Hmm, DV still hasn't said much at all, and there's really nothing to go on to vote for anyone else at this point.

VOTE DV

Are we going with the kill the other D1 vote leader just to see if there was wolf influence theory?

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Are we going with the kill the other D1 vote leader just to see if there was wolf influence theory?

I mean, that's part of it. But since there wasn't much movement during the day it's not as clear cut a situation. We're not going to learn a huge amount by DV's allegiance, I just don't have much of a better suggestion for today. And I'm hoping it will get him talking.

[The Jackal]

Man, quiet day. Maybe activity will pickup as the work day nears an end.

[mckerney]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Good point. If he protected himself, which is a common Night One BG move, then the wolves will know who he is, so he might as well come out.

My guess, though, is that the BG was not informed.

I'd expect that too.

Had forgotten about the woodsman role, could have just as easily been him the wolves tried to kill. I suspect we'll be losing one of them tonight.

[Barkeep49]

Going through the way the voting went down, being so close all the way, it's really hard to tell who, if anyone, was being protected.

[Autumn]

I think I'm going to have to give you guys a Bull Moose Special to liven things up.

[Lathum]

checking back in, amazed how slow it has been. So far no reason to change my vote.

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by Lathum

checking back in, amazed how slow it has been. So far no reason to change my vote.

Could you maybe give a reason for your vote though?

[J23]

Not a whole lot of discussion, and I don't expect to be around tonight unfortunately.

Vote DV

One of the early voters on the villager that got lynched yesterday, and has talked a lot more when under pressure the last couple games. I realise I have't exactly been a fountain of discussion either, so feel free to make any pot-kettle arguements.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Could you maybe give a reason for your vote though?

Without looking back it seems to me like Jag got a few votes then most of the later votes went elsewhere.

[Autumn]

Vote Count as of Post 191

JAG 1 - Lathum (175)
Darth Vilus 2 - The Jackal (180), J23 (190)

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by Lathum

Without looking back it seems to me like Jag got a few votes then most of the later votes went elsewhere.

When JAG got his second vote, 3 other people already had 3 votes on them.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

When JAG got his second vote, 3 other people already had 3 votes on them.

fair enough, like I said, don't realy have time to look back. It just seemed like there was a little momentum on him and he faded into the background

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by J23

Sorry I didn't make it back yesterday before deadline to make my vote matter. My b-day today and went out last night with some friends and got in late. I don't expect to be around too much later in the day today/tomorrow either unfortunately.

Happy birthday j23! Have some popcorn

[Darth Vilus]

ah sorry guys, school kinda sucked. I'll be around the rest of the day though so that's a plus lol. going to reread the thread in a sec

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by Lathum

fair enough, like I said, don't realy have time to look back. It just seemed like there was a little momentum on him and he faded into the background

So you going to change your vote then?

[Darth Vilus]

oh wow, didnt even know there was a woodsman role. So it was either the woodsman or a bg block. if it was the woodsman we're most likely going to lose him tonight since he can only survive one kill, that sucks

[dwardzala]

I'm not getting much of a read on anybody as of yet, although Danny's move off of Zinto to make it a "closer" race yesterday isn't sitting right with me. I'm not prepared to make him a third candidate yet.

[Darth Vilus]

no one is really jumping out at me to be honest. maybe JAG or Rum? I don't have anything to go on though