NFL WEEK 2 - Page 4

gstelmack · 09-20-2009, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

Gag at the Cowboys' Stadium being compared to the Wonders of the World.

Since it's a slow posting day, one side of the scoreboard discussion I hadn't seen talked about was an article I saw on either SI or ESPN (can't remember which) with the guys that updated the stadium rules a couple of years ago. They were getting aged, and with all the stadium construction going on they reviewed them all. Up until like 2005 there had to be 120' of clearance. They thought that was old and so changed it to 85'. Without any evidence really. And they could not point to why they did it, just that it seemed restrictive.

Lathum · 09-20-2009, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

Gag at the Cowboys' Stadium being compared to the Wonders of the World.

I was on the phone with Saldana and when they did that we were both LOLing.

Good start, points on the board.

Lathum · 09-20-2009, 09:04 PM

Giants INT return for a TD and all Jerry Jones can do is pick his nose

JS19 · 09-20-2009, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

Giants INT return for a TD and all Jerry Jones can do is pick his nose

Probably why they didn't pan to him after the fumble recovery.

DaddyTorgo · 09-20-2009, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

Giants INT return for a TD and all Jerry Jones can do is pick his nose

dude...sometimes you got something up there you just gotta get out...and nothing feels quite as good as a successful fishing trip...

JS19 · 09-20-2009, 09:13 PM

seriously though, giants need to get this in for 6. they need to find someone who can take over the redzone.

Lathum · 09-20-2009, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by JS19

seriously though, giants need to get this in for 6. they need to find someone who can take over the redzone.

Couldn't agree more. My mother who is visiting me and knows nothing about football just asked why they didn't throw the ball into the endzone.

JS19 · 09-20-2009, 09:17 PM

haha. And by I mean someone who can take over the redzone, I mean someone other than Tynes. I think their best bet is Boss, unless Hixon can step up and prove to be a physical WR.

Lathum · 09-20-2009, 09:18 PM

I would like to see thm put Barton in and throw a fade

as my Mom yells "get the guy with the hair!"

JS19 · 09-20-2009, 09:24 PM

If they keep up this piss poor redzone offense, I don't think they will have any other choice, especially after doing nothing but rave about him all pre-season.

Vince, Pt. II · 09-20-2009, 09:25 PM

What's the deal with Jacobs? It seems like a bunch of RBs who were "supposed" to be good this year are really stumbling out of the gate - Forte, Slaton and Jacobs just off the top of my head, but I'm sure there's more than that.

JS19 · 09-20-2009, 09:29 PM

Just needs to get it going, as far as I'm concerned. Opponents are able to pay so much more attention to the running game now, without Burress and all. Once the Giants establish their passing game, I think he'll be on track.

Lathum · 09-20-2009, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Vince, Pt. II

What's the deal with Jacobs? It seems like a bunch of RBs who were "supposed" to be good this year are really stumbling out of the gate - Forte, Slaton and Jacobs just off the top of my head, but I'm sure there's more than that.

I think 5 quarters into the season is a little early for a decleration like that.

Jacobs faced the Redskins and Haynsworth last wek which didn't help.

Jacobs will be fine.

dervack · 09-20-2009, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Vince, Pt. II

What's the deal with Jacobs? It seems like a bunch of RBs who were "supposed" to be good this year are really stumbling out of the gate - Forte, Slaton and Jacobs just off the top of my head, but I'm sure there's more than that.

Well Slaton put on a good amount of weight and scouts say he looks slow.

Lathum · 09-20-2009, 09:50 PM

What a dirty, scumbag play by Adams

King of New York · 09-20-2009, 09:51 PM

Should be a red card for Adams!

JS19 · 09-20-2009, 09:51 PM

THANK GOD!!! didn't think he was getting up. Giants line is getting no pressure here.

Bad-example · 09-20-2009, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by JS19

well, that was about the shittiest broadcast of a national anthem

Dear Obama,

Please consider tax breaks for sporting events that ban vocals for our beloved National Anthem. I can't promise this will stimulate the economy, but the quality of life for many of us will rise. Votes in the bank, buddy.

Signed,
Those of us that can't stomach hearing that song butchered yet again

JS19 · 09-20-2009, 09:53 PM

That's a pick 6, no doubt.

King of New York · 09-20-2009, 09:53 PM

That was one strange interception

Eaglesfan27 · 09-20-2009, 09:53 PM

Awesome interception and it clearly didn't hit the ground.

Lathum · 09-20-2009, 09:53 PM

Gonna be overturned!!!

Lathum · 09-20-2009, 09:56 PM

fucking ref

JS19 · 09-20-2009, 09:56 PM

10-1 they kick a FG

JS19 · 09-20-2009, 09:58 PM

wow, goes from almost totally fucking it up, to a greta catch

Lathum · 09-20-2009, 09:58 PM

NEVER HIT THE GROUND!!!

King of New York · 09-20-2009, 09:59 PM

I'm glad the Giants scored that TD, since the ref robbed them of a TD on that interception.

Lathum · 09-20-2009, 10:00 PM

I am obviously happy, but the Giants should be winning this game by a lot more

DaddyTorgo · 09-20-2009, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

I am obviously happy, but the Giants should be winning this game by a lot more

hopefully what happened to the Pats doesn't happen to them...

Cringer · 09-20-2009, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips

So Packer fans, who was Odom up against? Five sacks for a guy that only had 3.5 last year? I know he's in far better shape this year, but do you have a real stiff on your OL?

Chad Cllifton is the long time left tackle, he gave up at least one sack today, maybe two. Clifton then got hurt and the Packers, in a brilliant move had no active backup at tackle. So LG Darren Colledge moved to left tackle, the center moved to left guard, and the backup center came in to play center. It seemed to work really well. Even the Packers think so....

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“Our pass protection is a negative right now,” McCarthy said.

Lathum · 09-20-2009, 10:29 PM

Giants playcalling in the red zone is dreadful. Can they throw it in the endzone once please

Lathum · 09-20-2009, 10:30 PM

JS19 · 09-20-2009, 10:31 PM

BOSS BOSS BOSS!!!! why do they refuse to throw him the ball??

kingfc22 · 09-20-2009, 10:40 PM

The crowd at the stick was the best I have seen in a long time. We actually had real football fans show up today.

Gore was a BEAST and the defense is looking good. Now to see what they can do against the Vikes on the road.

CU Tiger · 09-20-2009, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Tigercat

False. Many who truly know about college football talked about him having first pick talent for years. LSU didn't get pub in 2005 because the team was overshadowed by Saban's departure the year before and Katrina. Jamarcus was solid that year (his sophomore year.) Jamarcus took the next step and had the best year passing in college football in 2006. (With Quinn right there as well.)

Russell was a huge (heh) talent making a good amount of plays in 2005, just because some aspects of the national media didn't pay attention to him then, doesn't mean anything. Those lazy journalists that make up much of national sports writers started paying attention only when LSU won a BCS game under Russell in 2006.

I am not sure you are debating the point. No one is debating that he was a college talent(though I think you may be over blowing his college stature), just that he was never seen as an NFL talent.

I think the smart money said he couldnt play at the next level, even in that draft...and Id say it is proving true.

Tigercat · 09-20-2009, 11:03 PM

You keep using that word "talent," I don't think it means what you think it means. Jamarcus showed NFL talent the moment he stepped onto the college field. As a junior he showed top of the line college skill as well. Now maybe upon reflection you would say the smart money was on him not having or developing an NFL skillset.

Jamarcus's only MAJOR flaw in college is the same as the NFL, he hasn't yet developed the instincts to have accuracy beyond throwing the ball to points on the field. He can't consistently hit WRs in stride, and occationally struggles against moving coverage. So if you would have bet Jamarcus, even with his natural arm strength and arm accuracy from that arm strength, wouldn't develop that instinct by now, more power to you.

But the bottom line is, Jamarcus showed as few(or as many) flaws in his college game as the average top 5 QB, with more upside than most.

Lathum · 09-20-2009, 11:08 PM

What a move by Smith

JS19 · 09-20-2009, 11:11 PM

I've always liked Smith and thought he would be a very productive receiver, but Manningham is the one who's opening my eyes quite a bit, and I know it's early, but I like what I see. Nonetheless, they are still missing that tall, physical red zone type guy, obviously. Not sure how serious Hixon's injury is, but maybe that will open the door for Barden.

Lathum · 09-20-2009, 11:19 PM

Quite the coming out party for Manninghan

CU Tiger · 09-20-2009, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Tigercat

You keep using that word "talent," I don't think it means what you think it means. Jamarcus showed NFL talent the moment he stepped onto the college field. As a junior he showed top of the line college skill as well. Now maybe upon reflection you would say the smart money was on him not having or developing an NFL skillset.

Jamarcus's only MAJOR flaw in college is the same as the NFL, he hasn't yet developed the instincts to have accuracy beyond throwing the ball to points on the field. He can't consistently hit WRs in stride, and occationally struggles against moving coverage. So if you would have bet Jamarcus, even with his natural arm strength and arm accuracy from that arm strength, wouldn't develop that instinct by now, more power to you.

But the bottom line is, Jamarcus showed as few(or as many) flaws in his college game as the average top 5 QB, with more upside than most.

1 - This is my first post in the thread; I don't "keep" using any word
2 - I am using the word "talent" the way an employee is a "talent". I can re-phrase, he was seen as a good college player but I never heard smart people say he would be a good NFL player (much th way Ron Dayne fits this argument)

bulletsponge · 09-20-2009, 11:25 PM

my god romo looks like shit

hoopsguy · 09-20-2009, 11:29 PM

Scored too quickly, I'm guessing Manning leads them to a field goal as time expires.

Also, I frigging love Marion Barber and hope that there is nothing wrong - he looked like he was going into the end zone on that run and then pulled a muscle or something.

Karlifornia · 09-20-2009, 11:30 PM

Ugh...Barber had a TD and pulls a muscle at the 10 yard line.

That's Barber's touchdown, Dicklix Jones!

(I should have never started playing fantasy football)

Lathum · 09-20-2009, 11:30 PM

Giants are getting exactly what they deserve. To many field goals, including a missed 29 yarder that would have made it a 2 possession game. I am gonna be so pissed if they lose.

JS19 · 09-20-2009, 11:32 PM

I shouldn't let my heart get in the way of my fantasy football decisions, I benched Jones today bc they were playing the Giants.

DaddyTorgo · 09-20-2009, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

Giants are getting exactly what they deserve. To many field goals, including a missed 29 yarder that would have made it a 2 possession game. I am gonna be so pissed if they lose.

welcome to how Pats fans felt today. Too many FG's and too many missed opportunities to punch it in for TD's.

Tigercat · 09-20-2009, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by CU Tiger

1 - This is my first post in the thread; I don't "keep" using any word
2 - I am using the word "talent" the way an employee is a "talent". I can re-phrase, he was seen as a good college player but I never heard smart people say he would be a good NFL player (much th way Ron Dayne fits this argument)

1) that was mostly a joke, although I do think you were misusing "talent" because:

2) Ron Dayne would only fit in this argument if he could run a 4.4 flat 40 and 4.3 shuttle. Jemarcus can make every throw on the football field, from any position in the pocket/behind the line of scrimmage. Unfortunately he can only do so consistently if the target is stationary and a defender isn't in good position.

So Dayne would be a great comparison if Dayne had the best speed and agility for a RB we have seen maybe ever, but he could only find running lanes in college and not in the NFL. And in that case, to say that Dayne was a "good bet" to fail from the start sounds ridiculous.

Edit to add: 3) Most draft "expert" ratings had him as a top 3-5 talent on their boards, independent of where players will be drafted, more had him at #1 than any other player. If you don't call that "smart people saying he will be a good NFL player" than I don't know what you mean by that.

Crapshoot · 09-20-2009, 11:35 PM

The Giants defense = shredded here. WTF?

bulletsponge · 09-20-2009, 11:35 PM

are people really suprised that Russell sucks? i mean someone gave him the nickname Jabustus before he was picked for a reason. i know many in this forum figured he would be a bust (i know i did)

Lathum · 09-20-2009, 11:36 PM

Terrible with 2:23 left that they don't get a play off before the 2 miinute warning

09-20-2009, 09:51 PM	#166
King of New York High School Varsity Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Edge of the Great Dismal Swamp	Should be a red card for Adams! __________________ Input A No Input

09-20-2009, 09:53 PM	#170
King of New York High School Varsity Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Edge of the Great Dismal Swamp	That was one strange interception __________________ Input A No Input

09-20-2009, 09:53 PM	#171
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	Awesome interception and it clearly didn't hit the ground. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

09-20-2009, 09:59 PM	#177
King of New York High School Varsity Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Edge of the Great Dismal Swamp	I'm glad the Giants scored that TD, since the ref robbed them of a TD on that interception. __________________ Input A No Input

09-20-2009, 10:40 PM	#184
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	The crowd at the stick was the best I have seen in a long time. We actually had real football fans show up today. Gore was a BEAST and the defense is looking good. Now to see what they can do against the Vikes on the road. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

09-20-2009, 09:04 PM	#153
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Giants INT return for a TD and all Jerry Jones can do is pick his nose

09-20-2009, 09:13 PM	#156
JS19 College Prospect Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: NY	seriously though, giants need to get this in for 6. they need to find someone who can take over the redzone.

09-20-2009, 09:17 PM	#158
JS19 College Prospect Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: NY	haha. And by I mean someone who can take over the redzone, I mean someone other than Tynes. I think their best bet is Boss, unless Hixon can step up and prove to be a physical WR.

09-20-2009, 09:18 PM	#159
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	I would like to see thm put Barton in and throw a fade as my Mom yells "get the guy with the hair!"

09-20-2009, 09:24 PM	#160
JS19 College Prospect Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: NY	If they keep up this piss poor redzone offense, I don't think they will have any other choice, especially after doing nothing but rave about him all pre-season.

09-20-2009, 09:25 PM	#161
Vince, Pt. II Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Somewhere More Familiar	What's the deal with Jacobs? It seems like a bunch of RBs who were "supposed" to be good this year are really stumbling out of the gate - Forte, Slaton and Jacobs just off the top of my head, but I'm sure there's more than that.

09-20-2009, 09:29 PM	#162
JS19 College Prospect Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: NY	Just needs to get it going, as far as I'm concerned. Opponents are able to pay so much more attention to the running game now, without Burress and all. Once the Giants establish their passing game, I think he'll be on track.

09-20-2009, 09:50 PM	#165
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	What a dirty, scumbag play by Adams

09-20-2009, 09:51 PM	#167
JS19 College Prospect Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: NY	THANK GOD!!! didn't think he was getting up. Giants line is getting no pressure here.

09-20-2009, 09:53 PM	#169
JS19 College Prospect Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: NY	That's a pick 6, no doubt.

09-20-2009, 09:53 PM	#172
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Gonna be overturned!!!

09-20-2009, 09:56 PM	#173
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	fucking ref

09-20-2009, 09:56 PM	#174
JS19 College Prospect Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: NY	10-1 they kick a FG

09-20-2009, 09:58 PM	#175
JS19 College Prospect Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: NY	wow, goes from almost totally fucking it up, to a greta catch

09-20-2009, 09:58 PM	#176
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	NEVER HIT THE GROUND!!!

09-20-2009, 10:00 PM	#178
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	I am obviously happy, but the Giants should be winning this game by a lot more

09-20-2009, 10:29 PM	#181
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Giants playcalling in the red zone is dreadful. Can they throw it in the endzone once please

09-20-2009, 10:30 PM	#182
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	fuck

09-20-2009, 10:31 PM	#183
JS19 College Prospect Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: NY	BOSS BOSS BOSS!!!! why do they refuse to throw him the ball??

09-20-2009, 11:03 PM	#186
Tigercat College Starter Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Federal Way, WA	You keep using that word "talent," I don't think it means what you think it means. Jamarcus showed NFL talent the moment he stepped onto the college field. As a junior he showed top of the line college skill as well. Now maybe upon reflection you would say the smart money was on him not having or developing an NFL skillset. Jamarcus's only MAJOR flaw in college is the same as the NFL, he hasn't yet developed the instincts to have accuracy beyond throwing the ball to points on the field. He can't consistently hit WRs in stride, and occationally struggles against moving coverage. So if you would have bet Jamarcus, even with his natural arm strength and arm accuracy from that arm strength, wouldn't develop that instinct by now, more power to you. But the bottom line is, Jamarcus showed as few(or as many) flaws in his college game as the average top 5 QB, with more upside than most. Last edited by Tigercat : 09-20-2009 at 11:05 PM.

09-20-2009, 11:08 PM	#187
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	What a move by Smith

09-20-2009, 11:11 PM	#188
JS19 College Prospect Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: NY	I've always liked Smith and thought he would be a very productive receiver, but Manningham is the one who's opening my eyes quite a bit, and I know it's early, but I like what I see. Nonetheless, they are still missing that tall, physical red zone type guy, obviously. Not sure how serious Hixon's injury is, but maybe that will open the door for Barden. Last edited by JS19 : 09-20-2009 at 11:13 PM.

09-20-2009, 11:19 PM	#189
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Quite the coming out party for Manninghan

09-20-2009, 11:25 PM	#191
bulletsponge Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: TX	my god romo looks like shit

09-20-2009, 11:29 PM	#192
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Scored too quickly, I'm guessing Manning leads them to a field goal as time expires. Also, I frigging love Marion Barber and hope that there is nothing wrong - he looked like he was going into the end zone on that run and then pulled a muscle or something.

09-20-2009, 11:30 PM	#193
Karlifornia Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: San Jose, CA	Ugh...Barber had a TD and pulls a muscle at the 10 yard line. That's Barber's touchdown, Dicklix Jones! (I should have never started playing fantasy football) __________________ Look into the mind of a crazy man (NSFW) http://www.whitepowerupdate.wordpress.com

09-20-2009, 11:30 PM	#194
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Giants are getting exactly what they deserve. To many field goals, including a missed 29 yarder that would have made it a 2 possession game. I am gonna be so pissed if they lose.

09-20-2009, 11:32 PM	#195
JS19 College Prospect Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: NY	I shouldn't let my heart get in the way of my fantasy football decisions, I benched Jones today bc they were playing the Giants.

09-20-2009, 11:35 PM	#198
Crapshoot Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2003	The Giants defense = shredded here. WTF?

09-20-2009, 11:35 PM	#199
bulletsponge Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: TX	are people really suprised that Russell sucks? i mean someone gave him the nickname Jabustus before he was picked for a reason. i know many in this forum figured he would be a bust (i know i did)