Werewolf X: Warring Families And A Madman.

[Mr. Wednesday]

Originally Posted by Superman=#54

dola

Kevin and Henry say they are masons.

There is no way to prove or disprove them, but I believe them.

I believe them as well. Kevin posted about the brothers bit before it had been mentioned by anyone else, and that was something that Neon_Chaos left out of the original description.

[Superman=#54]

Hopefully the two mafia famillies will continue to off each other. There should be 3 kills tonight if no one targets the same person. Since the madman can't do the same thing two nights in the row.

[Mr. Wednesday]

It was never clear, though, whether the serial killer also had the option of no action.

[henry296]

Originally Posted by Mr. Wednesday

It was never clear, though, whether the serial killer also had the option of no action.

It seems pretty obvious to me that the serial killer did not strike last night.

[MrBug708]

I'd have to agree that the serial killer did not make a move last night. Unless the serial killer is also a mafia member

[Eaglesfan27]

Originally Posted by henry296

It seems pretty obvious to me that the serial killer did not strike last night.

All that means is that he might have protected himself from being killed last night. If he can only do those 2 actions and can't repeat them, he will presumably kill tonight.

[Neon_Chaos]

Attention:
Schmidty missed the vote last night. I'll need an alternate if Schmidty doesn't vote tonight.

Let the paranoia continue.

[MrBug708]

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

All that means is that he might have protected himself from being killed last night. If he can only do those 2 actions and can't repeat them, he will presumably kill tonight.

Well, only the serial killer would know that he was protected and the serial killer cannot do the same action twice so he'd be safe tonight, but a deadman the next night, except that the protected person would also know he'd be a deadman the second night.

Provided he doesn't get tossed in the well first or whacked by the mafia

[Blade6119]

ok, heres some views....madman didnt kill, im pretty sure he protected himself first night from the near random kills last night..

There are three villagers left(not counting cops)...we all know im one, so there are two others...keving and henry both claim to be brothers(much as sun dvls and dubb are now discovered to be). If thats true, we have quite a few people who claimed to be villagers that are lying. If the 2 are lying(i tend to believe them sincenthey were the first ones to mention the role, and it wast in the rules), we kill them. Id say we go after someone else.

FYI, heres the list of people left:

Participants:

1. ardent enthusiast(hmmmmmmmm, i want to say good guy, but that could be my missouri in me talking)
2. henry296(Villager?? I tend to believe them)
3. KevinNU(Villager?? I tend to believe them)
4. KWhit - DeLena Grunt, (Killed by Santadio Mafia Night 1)
5. Eaglesfan27(gah, no idea either way...numbers say he is prob bad but hell if i know)
6. Mr. Wednesday(i tend to think hes good, but i generally always trust him...so ignore me here...he just always seems to sound good)
7. Superman=#54(im torn here...hes made some things gtat make me think hes a cop, but he made commnets about schmidty's suitors dropping like flies which looks like diversion...i have no idea where hes at)
8. Schmidty(i highly doubt hes bad, but again thats just me...seems like attention is thrown on to him and i early and never really supported with facts...)
9. Qwikshot(one of my leading canidates tobe a mafia...something just doesnt feel right there)
10. MrBug708(im not sure bug knows whats going on, as a lot of his comments seem wishy-washy...but maybe hes playing dumb...either way i dont know what to think about him yet)
11. dubb93 - Villager, one of two Brothers (Lynched Day 1)
12. kingfc22(im leaning towards him being good, but ya...leaning doesnt mean much)
13. SnDvls - Villager, one of the two Brothers (Killed by DeLena Mafia Night 1)
14. GeorgeWBush (Man has this guy florwn under the radar...night internet or not he hasnt done much...and odd how when someone finally called him out he responded in less the 15 minutes....odd)
15. Blade6119(lol, supsect me if you will....you bastards and your anti-blade sentiments)

[Poli]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

ok, heres some views....madman didnt kill, im pretty sure he protected himself first night from the near random kills last night..

There are three villagers left(not counting cops)...we all know im one, so there are two others...keving and henry both claim to be brothers(much as sun dvls and dubb are now discovered to be). If thats true, we have quite a few people who claimed to be villagers that are lying. If the 2 are lying(i tend to believe them sincenthey were the first ones to mention the role, and it wast in the rules), we kill them. Id say we go after someone else.

FYI, heres the list of people left:

Participants:

1. ardent enthusiast(hmmmmmmmm, i want to say good guy, but that could be my missouri in me talking)
2. henry296(Villager?? I tend to believe them)
3. KevinNU(Villager?? I tend to believe them)
4. KWhit - DeLena Grunt, (Killed by Santadio Mafia Night 1)
5. Eaglesfan27(gah, no idea either way...numbers say he is prob bad but hell if i know)
6. Mr. Wednesday(i tend to think hes good, but i generally always trust him...so ignore me here...he just always seems to sound good)
7. Superman=#54(im torn here...hes made some things gtat make me think hes a cop, but he made commnets about schmidty's suitors dropping like flies which looks like diversion...i have no idea where hes at)
8. Schmidty(i highly doubt hes bad, but again thats just me...seems like attention is thrown on to him and i early and never really supported with facts...)
9. Qwikshot(one of my leading canidates tobe a mafia...something just doesnt feel right there)
10. MrBug708(im not sure bug knows whats going on, as a lot of his comments seem wishy-washy...but maybe hes playing dumb...either way i dont know what to think about him yet)
11. dubb93 - Villager, one of two Brothers (Lynched Day 1)
12. kingfc22(im leaning towards him being good, but ya...leaning doesnt mean much)
13. SnDvls - Villager, one of the two Brothers (Killed by DeLena Mafia Night 1)
14. GeorgeWBush (Man has this guy florwn under the radar...night internet or not he hasnt done much...and odd how when someone finally called him out he responded in less the 15 minutes....odd)
15. Blade6119(lol, supsect me if you will....you bastards and your anti-blade sentiments)

I'll respond later, heading out the door to work.

[Mr. Wednesday]

About the only thing Qwikshot's done so far is issue a blanket denial when I cast a highly non-scientific vote for him on Day 1.

kingfc22's an interesting case, because he voted for KWhit in Day 1 and then KWhit was killed overnight (and revealed to be mafia)... were the Santadio's trying to set him up?

So far, I'm not sure we have so much to go on... especially if Schmidty's one of the good guys, then there wouldn't even be any incentives for the mafia to do anything noteworthy with their votes.

[Mr. Wednesday]

Dola, also, you would have to wonder whether kingfc22 is one of the investigators (for DeLena himself, or possibly one of the other two acting on information from the DeLena investigator to avoid the DeLena investigator calling attention to himself). Having said that, I have no idea what the best way is for the police to try to act on any information they get without tipping everyone off while they're at it.

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by Superman=#54

Scmidty seems to be a suspect because the people who voted for him are dropping like flies

I would be a COMPLETE moron to kill off people that voted for me on the first night if I were a mobster, as that would put a huge target over my head. Maybe someone is doing just that to peg me.

I'm going to investigate the thread further, and come back later with my vote and analysis. We need to be very, very careful from now on, as we can't afford to lose any more villagers or police. That is especially true for the officer.

[KevinNU7]

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

All that means is that he might have protected himself from being killed last night. If he can only do those 2 actions and can't repeat them, he will presumably kill tonight.

There's always the possiblity that the madman on night 1 told the mod he wanted to do nothing but sleep. This would mean on night 2 he would still have the option to attack or defend

[Mr. Wednesday]

Right now, there are more bad guys than good guys. It's just that they're not all on the same side.

We need to take advantage of that.

[Mr. Wednesday]

Er, not quite right. It's an even balance, assuming you count the madman as a bad guy.

[kingfc22]

Originally Posted by Mr. Wednesday

kingfc22's an interesting case, because he voted for KWhit in Day 1 and then KWhit was killed overnight (and revealed to be mafia)... were the Santadio's trying to set him up?

This would be a terrible play on my part and someone is obviously trying to set me up. I was the only person to vote for KWhit and I thought I made it clear that it was a random vote.

[KevinNU7]

Originally Posted by Mr. Wednesday

Er, not quite right. It's an even balance, assuming you count the madman as a bad guy.

I don't, I just look at him as a villager who can kill. He gets nothing out of the mobsters winning. He needs to survive, and therefore needs the villagers to win. His only objective should be to kill all the mobsters.

IMO his role would better be described a "Vigilante" rather then a madman.

If you want him to be a madman maybe you'd change his Victory Condition to: Will win if you survive, if the mobsters get a 1:1 ratio you will be able to run away and avoid certain death. This condition would atleast motivate the madman to win on both sides

[Mr. Wednesday]

He does win if the mafia win.

[KevinNU7]

Originally Posted by Mr. Wednesday

He does win if the mafia win.

Oh crap! That must have happened in one of Neon's edits. Hmmmm, maybe I shouldn't have outted myself.

[kingfc22]

So the question is: Is the madman going to play a good guy or a bad guy? I'm sure we'll find out after tonight.

[MrBug708]

Blade, that hurts...

I think Kingfc's vote was probably random and maybe he was set up, but probably just bad luck on his part.

[KevinNU7]

Originally Posted by kingfc22

So the question is: Is the madman going to play a good guy or a bad guy? I'm sure we'll find out after tonight.

In that role I probably would have abstained on night 1, then defended on Night 2, then on night 3 I'd work out the odds and go from there

[KevinNU7]

Ok I'm going to break the ice and cast a vote. My internet has been down at home and I'm probably going to leave work at 4...

Right now I'm voting for Mr.Bug he has been quick to defend kingfc22 and personally I don't think either at policemen, and since we know who all the villagers are...

I vote Mr.Bug

[MrBug708]

*shrugs*

I just happened to be online at the time and he brings up somthing to think. It would be crazy to kill the person who voted for you.

I should have changed my vote to Schmidty early on for not voting before and now we have this mess.

Vote - Schmidty

Sorry bud, but you've been silent throughout this for the most part and since we've already established who the villagers are, I'm guessing that you are either the killer or a grunt for one of the two mafia parties

[MrBug708]

Of course, now that I think of it, couldn't the serial killer have a brother?

[henry296]

I've been thinking about Mr. Wednesday and Superman - Either the are the Mafia Investigators or Police Officers. They are the only 2 that have publicly supported that Kevin and I are villagers. I know that twice someone has been looking in my room and if it was Mr. W or Superman then they would be able to have proof. The question is did they search my room as good guys or bad guys.

[Blade6119]

Vote George W Bush

If you need my reasoning, go look at my big post...all too silent(even more so then schmidty), and despite claims of not being active till night i saw nothing at ngiht besides conveniently repsonding like 10 minutes after someone calling him out...seems all to convenient...

Off to work, maybe i wont get voted again, but i dont know since everyone seems to hate me

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

Of course, now that I think of it, couldn't the serial killer have a brother?

its possible, by im 99.9% sure thats not the case...it would destroy the point of him being able to win with either side...yet another odd comment by bug..no offense buddy, but you keep coming up on my radar

[MrBug708]

Just thinking outloud blade.

[henry296]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

Just thinking outloud blade.

Be careful thinking out loud. It got me killed in another WW game when I was a lowly villager.

[Qwikshot]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

*shrugs*

I just happened to be online at the time and he brings up somthing to think. It would be crazy to kill the person who voted for you.

I should have changed my vote to Schmidty early on for not voting before and now we have this mess.

Vote - Schmidty

Sorry bud, but you've been silent throughout this for the most part and since we've already established who the villagers are, I'm guessing that you are either the killer or a grunt for one of the two mafia parties

WRONG!

[Qwikshot]

I think Ardent is bad news...

[Blade6119]

HAVE ANY SUPPORT??? Or are you just randomly accusing ardent and defending schmidty??

[Poli]

Ugh, I getting swamped at work. I should have my vote in later today, but right now any news or analysis I can provide will have to be on hold.

Bleh, stupid job.

[Eaglesfan27]

I find this "out loud" thinking quite fascinating today.

[MrBug708]

You're just nervous because UCLA will win the NC today..

[MrBug708]

Errr

You're just nervous today because UCLA will be winning the NC in football

[Eaglesfan27]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

Errr

You're just nervous today because UCLA will be winning the NC in football

Your first post had me thinking. I'm like WTF? What National Title is being played today?

I'm certainly not worried about UCLA winning any football NC any time soon


As far as all of the outloud thinking comment. That wasn't specifically directed at you, but was more of a general statement. I'd love to hear some good analysis from people or even a bit more about their intuition

[Qwikshot]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

HAVE ANY SUPPORT??? Or are you just randomly accusing ardent and defending schmidty??

Least I didn't kill any innocents.

[Mr. Wednesday]

That's a low blow, I'd guess anybody who's played more than one of these games has at least one vote that they've regretted. Heck, I'm not happy with how my first vote has worked out in any of the three games I've played. In the first one, I started a bandwagon on a simple bandit (and wound up with a situation where people were choosing between two). In the second, I cast the deciding vote for an X-Com over an alien. In this one, I failed to change my vote and as a result, Blade was outed and used his skill to kill a villager.

[Mr. Wednesday]

At risk of drawing attention to myself, I'll see if I can get something rolling here. I'll go along with Blade and vote George W Bush.

[kingfc22]

Vote MrBug

1) he's comments have me scratching my head and
2) he's a Dodger's fan

[MrBug708]

If I somehow live, I'm killing Kingfc in the next werewolf

[MrBug708]

I can't spell...

[Qwikshot]

Vote MrBug

[MrBug708]

Y tu Brute?

[henry296]

Quick vote tally:

GWB - 2
Bug - 3
Schmidty -1

[Eaglesfan27]

I'm not sure. I believe Henry is a good guy. There are many other things I'm unsure about at this point that will hopefully become clear soon.


I vote George W Bush.

[MrBug708]

I got to get going to school for a midterm. About the only shot I have in being able to help anyone is to change my vote so that's what I'm going to do. Sorry Mr. President.....

unvote - Schmidty
vote - GWB