WW XCII Athens -- Destroyed by Wolves! - Page 4

EagleFan · 04-20-2009, 01:55 PM

Looks like I have an hour left in Athens unless my fellow villagers take control of the thread. Look at Abe tomorrow when you see that I am a villager.

EagleFan · 04-20-2009, 01:58 PM

Actually, I am going out guns blazing. Follow along if you want to nail a wolf day one. The more I think about my theory number two the more it makes sense. Lynch Abe today. IF he turns up clean than I will even vote for myself on day two.

unvote USFL

vote Abe

EagleFan · 04-20-2009, 02:00 PM

You saw last game just what a veteran duke can do. These are things that a 1st timer would not have picked up on. I feel 90 percent certain that a 1st timer either would have taken the power to his "grave" or duked to villager Lathum.

Abe Sargent · 04-20-2009, 02:04 PM

Dammit I just pulled an EF and acdentally went into the Sparta thread too. I didn;t read anything, just saw someone in the thread who wasn;t in our, paniced, and left.

TheNorm · 04-20-2009, 02:14 PM

FYI--I have played this game before, even if it wasn't here. I'm not exactly new to this, so cut me some slack.

I do have to step out for a little while though and I can't guarantee I'll be back by 2pm, so...I don't know. I'm siding with EagleFan here, albeit with reservations. Gut feeling tells me he's a villager here.

vote Abe

EagleFan · 04-20-2009, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheNorm

FYI--I have played this game before, even if it wasn't here. I'm not exactly new to this, so cut me some slack.

I do have to step out for a little while though and I can't guarantee I'll be back by 2pm, so...I don't know. I'm siding with EagleFan here, albeit with reservations. Gut feeling tells me he's a villager here.

vote Abe

Didn't mean to imply hat you are brand new to playing but that you are new here. That is something that could affect your decisions if you haven't played with the group in the past so you may not pick up on something in your first game with the group. Some things that people do may seem wolfish if you haven't seen it in the context of previous games.

It just seems too odd that a villager would want to come right out and give a person playing here for the 1st time the power. Not saying that you are a bad choice, just that I question Abe's motives.

hoopsguy · 04-20-2009, 02:30 PM

Does anyone have a vote count?

Alan T · 04-20-2009, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Does anyone have a vote count?

I do!

EagleFan · 04-20-2009, 02:32 PM

Just realized what a nightmare this may become for Pass once Hades is active...

Alan T · 04-20-2009, 02:32 PM

Lathum -- 0
Abe Sargent -- 2 Eagle Fan (152), TheNorm (155)
USFLTecmo -- 2 Chief Rum (121) MartinD (137)
EagleFan -- 4 Abe Sargent (126) hoopsguy (133) USFLTecmo (138) Lathum (139)

hoopsguy · 04-20-2009, 02:36 PM

Thanks, Alan

OK, as we get a little closer to the deadline I think we want to try avoiding a tie unless there is a real good reason to do so. It means multiple deaths and if we do not have an idea of who is good/bad then we are at considerable risk of losing two villagers.

I'm all for putting two people to death if we find ourselves in an either/or situation but I do not think that is going to be the case on Day 1.

EagleFan · 04-20-2009, 02:36 PM

Sweet, can we hire Alan as the official Athens' vote counter?

Passacaglia · 04-20-2009, 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan T

Lathum -- 0
Abe Sargent -- 2 Eagle Fan (152), TheNorm (155)
USFLTecmo -- 2 Chief Rum (121) MartinD (137)
EagleFan -- 4 Abe Sargent (126) hoopsguy (133) USFLTecmo (138) Lathum (139)

Hey! How did you get my spreadsheet?!?

EagleFan · 04-20-2009, 02:42 PM

It's like a library in here, no one is talking.

Chief Rum · 04-20-2009, 02:43 PM

Checking in for the last time before deadline, in case the wolves kill me. So it's known what was the last post I read before leaving.

I recommend everyone making a similar post if leaving before deadline.

EagleFan · 04-20-2009, 02:44 PM

18 minutes before village bad play number one.

Assuming there are 2 wolves it's 7-2 now. Killing me and a night kill make it 5-2. You HAVE to hit tomorrow or it'll be 3-2 and almost city won for the wolves at that point.

Repeat after me.... vote Abe..... vote Abe

EagleFan · 04-20-2009, 02:45 PM

Don't worry CR, unless your wolf buddy Abe is planning on sending you to Hades to "represent" there, you are safe. But then you know that.

hoopsguy · 04-20-2009, 02:46 PM

EagleFan - I'm around and will be up to the deadline.

I'm willing to change my vote if there is sufficient value to having you here rather than in Hades. But if you are a vanilla villager then going right to Hades isn't the worst thing in the world - at least not in terms of carrying on in the game. You are cleared in this thread, which means that every villager from Athens that follows you can vouch for you later on.

EagleFan · 04-20-2009, 02:47 PM

Convenient how Abe mentions the "TheNorm" thing and then you orchestrate the move (trying to push Abe into the background). Once I put heat on Abe you target me. Remember all of this fellow villagers.

EagleFan · 04-20-2009, 02:49 PM

Hades isn't the worst thing in the world right now but it means you HAVE to have a good vote tomorrow or the city is almost lost already. That means we then have to win Hades and Sparta and we have no control over Sparta.

hoopsguy · 04-20-2009, 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EagleFan

18 minutes before village bad play number one.

Assuming there are 2 wolves it's 7-2 now. Killing me and a night kill make it 5-2. You HAVE to hit tomorrow or it'll be 3-2 and almost city won for the wolves at that point.

Repeat after me.... vote Abe..... vote Abe

On that topic - what are your thoughts on attacking Sparta if we find ourselves down to a 3-2 ratio? If you do end up dead and are shown as a villager then at least I can trust your thoughts on the matter.

Do you think there is a point where it is worth surrendering one city to the wolves in an effort to make sure that we are not giving away both?

Or do you worry that we would be bringing more wolves to a city that is potentially doing better than us, which could increase the likelihood of both cities falling to wolves without Hades ever coming into play?

Abe Sargent · 04-20-2009, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EagleFan

Don't worry CR, unless your wolf buddy Abe is planning on sending you to Hades to "represent" there, you are safe. But then you know that.

I like how, according to EF, I must be a wolf, and half of the people here are my wolf buddies.

hoopsguy · 04-20-2009, 02:54 PM

Damn, Sparta has been a ton more active than us today. They have nearly 2x as many views now in addition to the post lead.

Not that it matters all that much if we are successful in catching wolves. But less discussion suggests that it is going to be harder to do.

Abe Sargent · 04-20-2009, 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EagleFan

Didn't mean to imply hat you are brand new to playing but that you are new here. That is something that could affect your decisions if you haven't played with the group in the past so you may not pick up on something in your first game with the group. Some things that people do may seem wolfish if you haven't seen it in the context of previous games.

It just seems too odd that a villager would want to come right out and give a person playing here for the 1st time the power. Not saying that you are a bad choice, just that I question Abe's motives.

It removes all biases, since he doesn;t know any of us. I think it was a great call on my part. He knows WW, but not us. Who could be more impartial?

Lathum · 04-20-2009, 02:58 PM

so am I not allowed to be in this thread after noon?

EagleFan · 04-20-2009, 02:59 PM

I would say do the attack if it's 3-2 at that point. That way you are bringing everyone left in the two cities together and you can begin to use the evidence that everyone has to our advantage.

Granted it is a tough call as you said it could be brining more trouble to their city but it could also help a lot based on what is said in this thread. If we are going to fall down 0-1 then it may be best to make the move and go for broke.

EagleFan · 04-20-2009, 03:00 PM

Remember Abe and CR.

Passacaglia · 04-20-2009, 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

so am I not allowed to be in this thread after noon?

You can be in the thread -- just keep on eye on whether or not you get a PM. If you're worried that you won't notice getting a PM, there's an option that makes a box pop up when you get a PM in the User CP.

Abe Sargent · 04-20-2009, 03:01 PM

I would also want to attack if we win the city. Wolf kill today, antoehr tomorrow and we can move over to Sparta and help them out there, if the rules allow you to attack after you've won the city. I'm not sure if you go to Hades then or not.

Passacaglia · 04-20-2009, 03:02 PM

Deadline!

EagleFan · 04-20-2009, 03:02 PM

Good luck village

Passacaglia · 04-20-2009, 03:04 PM

Vote count, let me know if it's wrong:

Quote:

Lathum -- 0
Abe Sargent -- 2 EagleFan (152) TheNorm (155)
USFLTecmo -- 2 Chief Rum (121) MartinD (137)
EagleFan -- 4 Abe Sargent (126) hoopsguy (133) USFLTecmo (138) Lathum (139)

Abe Sargent · 04-20-2009, 03:04 PM

Someone not vote?

Abe Sargent · 04-20-2009, 03:05 PM

Schmidty

MartinD · 04-20-2009, 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

Schmidty

Does this mean that Schmidty automatically starts with one vote from now on?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

From rules thread:

Each day a player misses a vote, a one-vote penalty is added to his vote count, applied throughout the game.

Abe Sargent · 04-20-2009, 03:13 PM

Looks like it

PurdueBrad · 04-20-2009, 03:14 PM

I'm new in town, where does a guy go to get a drink?

Abe Sargent · 04-20-2009, 03:15 PM

Looks like Poli got killed over at Sparta, since he was posting in the Hades thread. I checked the rules and there is nothing about just seeing who is posting there. Don;t click to see how many posts, don;t look in, etc, but nothing about just reporting who is posting there.

Abe Sargent · 04-20-2009, 03:15 PM

Heya PB - Marathon?

Passacaglia · 04-20-2009, 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

Looks like Poli got killed over at Sparta, since he was posting in the Hades thread. I checked the rules and there is nothing about just seeing who is posting there. Don;t click to see how many posts, don;t look in, etc, but nothing about just reporting who is posting there.

Nothing wrong with that.

hoopsguy · 04-20-2009, 03:16 PM

Hmm, was just thinking to myself as I saw your name, "Dude, wrong thread."

So, spill it on Sparta. What caused the explosion in posts there this morning?

PurdueBrad · 04-20-2009, 03:16 PM

Yeah, got absolutely railroaded by dubb. Probably never been as frustrated in a WW game as this time.

Abe Sargent · 04-20-2009, 03:17 PM

Yeah it looked like post-diarrhea

PurdueBrad · 04-20-2009, 03:17 PM

Your's truly. They wanted to lynch DT for not showing, I argued it was a really bad play simply because it's a dumb reason and I've NEVER seen it nab a wolf. So that brought heat on me from dubb when I put a vote on one of the people pushing the lynch.

hoopsguy · 04-20-2009, 03:17 PM

Can you give some details on how you were railroaded? Do you think that he is a wolf? Who do you think are the wolves in Sparta? This is information that might be helpful if/when some of us find ourselves down in Hades.

Abe Sargent · 04-20-2009, 03:18 PM

Damn dude

Abe Sargent · 04-20-2009, 03:18 PM

Of course, they migth have caught a wolf and you happen to be a MR and we wouldn't even know

PurdueBrad · 04-20-2009, 03:18 PM

Then I revealed as marathon, knowing it meant a more likely lynch but I thought anyone rational might use it as a means of elimination of other possible targets. Heinz was rational, dubb, saldana, and somebody else weren't. Although I'm wondering if there was a duke move now because Poli is in hell apparently.

Passacaglia · 04-20-2009, 03:19 PM

The Athenians decide to lynch EagleFan and send him to Hades. EagleFan was a villager!

It takes you a while to notice, but when you wake up, you realize that Schmidty is missing. Schmidty was a villager!

Abe Sargent · 04-20-2009, 03:19 PM

Well at least we won;t have to worry about the Schmidty issue tomorrow

04-20-2009, 02:04 PM	#154
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	Dammit I just pulled an EF and acdentally went into the Sparta thread too. I didn;t read anything, just saw someone in the thread who wasn;t in our, paniced, and left. __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

04-20-2009, 02:32 PM	#160
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	Lathum -- 0 Abe Sargent -- 2 Eagle Fan (152), TheNorm (155) USFLTecmo -- 2 Chief Rum (121) MartinD (137) EagleFan -- 4 Abe Sargent (126) hoopsguy (133) USFLTecmo (138) Lathum (139) __________________ Couch to ??k - From the couch to a Marathon in roughly 18 months.

04-20-2009, 02:43 PM	#165
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	Checking in for the last time before deadline, in case the wolves kill me. So it's known what was the last post I read before leaving. I recommend everyone making a similar post if leaving before deadline. __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

04-20-2009, 03:01 PM	#179
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	I would also want to attack if we win the city. Wolf kill today, antoehr tomorrow and we can move over to Sparta and help them out there, if the rules allow you to attack after you've won the city. I'm not sure if you go to Hades then or not. __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

04-20-2009, 03:04 PM	#183
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	Someone not vote? __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

04-20-2009, 01:55 PM	#151
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	Looks like I have an hour left in Athens unless my fellow villagers take control of the thread. Look at Abe tomorrow when you see that I am a villager.

04-20-2009, 01:58 PM	#152
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	Actually, I am going out guns blazing. Follow along if you want to nail a wolf day one. The more I think about my theory number two the more it makes sense. Lynch Abe today. IF he turns up clean than I will even vote for myself on day two. unvote USFL vote Abe

04-20-2009, 02:00 PM	#153
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	You saw last game just what a veteran duke can do. These are things that a 1st timer would not have picked up on. I feel 90 percent certain that a 1st timer either would have taken the power to his "grave" or duked to villager Lathum.

04-20-2009, 02:14 PM	#155
TheNorm Mascot Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Chicago, IL	FYI--I have played this game before, even if it wasn't here. I'm not exactly new to this, so cut me some slack. I do have to step out for a little while though and I can't guarantee I'll be back by 2pm, so...I don't know. I'm siding with EagleFan here, albeit with reservations. Gut feeling tells me he's a villager here. vote Abe

04-20-2009, 02:30 PM	#157
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Does anyone have a vote count?

04-20-2009, 02:32 PM	#159
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	Just realized what a nightmare this may become for Pass once Hades is active...

04-20-2009, 02:36 PM	#161
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Thanks, Alan OK, as we get a little closer to the deadline I think we want to try avoiding a tie unless there is a real good reason to do so. It means multiple deaths and if we do not have an idea of who is good/bad then we are at considerable risk of losing two villagers. I'm all for putting two people to death if we find ourselves in an either/or situation but I do not think that is going to be the case on Day 1.

04-20-2009, 02:36 PM	#162
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	Sweet, can we hire Alan as the official Athens' vote counter?

04-20-2009, 02:42 PM	#164
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	It's like a library in here, no one is talking.

04-20-2009, 02:44 PM	#166
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	18 minutes before village bad play number one. Assuming there are 2 wolves it's 7-2 now. Killing me and a night kill make it 5-2. You HAVE to hit tomorrow or it'll be 3-2 and almost city won for the wolves at that point. Repeat after me.... vote Abe..... vote Abe

04-20-2009, 02:45 PM	#167
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	Don't worry CR, unless your wolf buddy Abe is planning on sending you to Hades to "represent" there, you are safe. But then you know that.

04-20-2009, 02:46 PM	#168
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	EagleFan - I'm around and will be up to the deadline. I'm willing to change my vote if there is sufficient value to having you here rather than in Hades. But if you are a vanilla villager then going right to Hades isn't the worst thing in the world - at least not in terms of carrying on in the game. You are cleared in this thread, which means that every villager from Athens that follows you can vouch for you later on.

04-20-2009, 02:47 PM	#169
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	Convenient how Abe mentions the "TheNorm" thing and then you orchestrate the move (trying to push Abe into the background). Once I put heat on Abe you target me. Remember all of this fellow villagers.

04-20-2009, 02:49 PM	#170
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	Hades isn't the worst thing in the world right now but it means you HAVE to have a good vote tomorrow or the city is almost lost already. That means we then have to win Hades and Sparta and we have no control over Sparta.

04-20-2009, 02:54 PM	#173
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Damn, Sparta has been a ton more active than us today. They have nearly 2x as many views now in addition to the post lead. Not that it matters all that much if we are successful in catching wolves. But less discussion suggests that it is going to be harder to do.

04-20-2009, 02:58 PM	#175
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	so am I not allowed to be in this thread after noon?

04-20-2009, 02:59 PM	#176
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	I would say do the attack if it's 3-2 at that point. That way you are bringing everyone left in the two cities together and you can begin to use the evidence that everyone has to our advantage. Granted it is a tough call as you said it could be brining more trouble to their city but it could also help a lot based on what is said in this thread. If we are going to fall down 0-1 then it may be best to make the move and go for broke.

04-20-2009, 03:00 PM	#177
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	Remember Abe and CR.

04-20-2009, 03:02 PM	#180
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	Deadline!

04-20-2009, 03:02 PM	#181
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	Good luck village

04-20-2009, 03:05 PM	#184
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	Schmidty __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

04-20-2009, 03:13 PM	#186
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	Looks like it __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

04-20-2009, 03:14 PM	#187
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	I'm new in town, where does a guy go to get a drink?

04-20-2009, 03:15 PM	#188
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	Looks like Poli got killed over at Sparta, since he was posting in the Hades thread. I checked the rules and there is nothing about just seeing who is posting there. Don;t click to see how many posts, don;t look in, etc, but nothing about just reporting who is posting there. __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

04-20-2009, 03:15 PM	#189
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	Heya PB - Marathon? __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

04-20-2009, 03:16 PM	#191
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Hmm, was just thinking to myself as I saw your name, "Dude, wrong thread." So, spill it on Sparta. What caused the explosion in posts there this morning?

04-20-2009, 03:16 PM	#192
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	Yeah, got absolutely railroaded by dubb. Probably never been as frustrated in a WW game as this time.

04-20-2009, 03:17 PM	#193
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	Yeah it looked like post-diarrhea __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

04-20-2009, 03:17 PM	#194
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	Your's truly. They wanted to lynch DT for not showing, I argued it was a really bad play simply because it's a dumb reason and I've NEVER seen it nab a wolf. So that brought heat on me from dubb when I put a vote on one of the people pushing the lynch.

04-20-2009, 03:17 PM	#195
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Can you give some details on how you were railroaded? Do you think that he is a wolf? Who do you think are the wolves in Sparta? This is information that might be helpful if/when some of us find ourselves down in Hades.