OT: The FOFC Comedy Draft

[Maple Leafs]

For page four:

The picks as of 3.8, with albion on the clock.

The rosters:
DeToxRoxDVHStyle
1.1 George Carlin (standup)
2.10 Sam Kinison (standup)
3.1 John Belushi (sketch)

sachmo71
1.2 Steve Martin (standup)
2.9 Lenny Bruce (standup)
3.2 Bill Murray (movies)

Schmidty
1.3 Jerry Seinfeld (sitcom)
2.8 Groucho Marx (movies)
3.3 Woddy Allen (movies)

Maple Leafs
1.4 Richard Pryor (standup)
1.7 Johnny Carson (talk show/variety) via trade
3.4 Steven Wright (standup)

oliegirl
1.5 Robin Williams (standup)
2.6 Eddie Murphy (movies)
3.5 Gilda Radner (sketch)

sabotai
1.6 Bill Hicks (standup)
2.5 Dave Chapelle (sketch)
3.6 Conan O'Brien (talk show/variety)

kcchief19
2.4 David Letterman (talk show/variety)
2.7 Jay Leno (standup) via trade
3.7 Ricky Gervais (sitcom)

vtbub
1.8 Bob Hope (standup)
2.3 Chris Rock (standup)
3.6 Carol Burnett (talk show/variety)

albionmoonlight
1.9 Charlie Chaplin (movie)
2.2 Lucille Ball (sitcom)

Swaggs
1.10 Bill Cosby (standup)
2.1 Rodney Dangerfield (standup)

[Bearcat729]

Originally Posted by vtbub

Carol Burnett Variety

I would have went for two other people on her show, but it's not a bad choice.

[albionmoonlight]

Burnett was the other of the "top three" women to whom I was referring.

For my next pick, I go with John Cleese (sketch comedy).

[sachmo71]

Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

kcchief sent in his pick. He gets a cookie.

He chooses Ricky Gervais, sitcom

oooh...nice pick.

[Swaggs]

Is it my pick(s)? Between the trades, I'm a hair confused...

[albionmoonlight]

Originally Posted by Swaggs

Is it my pick(s)? Between the trades, I'm a hair confused...

3.10 is up, and I am pretty sure that that is you.

[Swaggs]

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

3.10 is up, and I am pretty sure that that is you.

Okay... looks like it to me, too.

My next pick is kind of a risk, but I am such a big fan of his that it would upset me to see him on another team.

With pick 3.10, I pick Bob Newhart. I'm tempted to use him in standup, but I think I will stick him in the sitcom role for now.

His standup album beat out Elvis's album and the Sound of Music soundtrack in sales upon its release and won a Grammy. He had two successful sitcoms with the Bob Newhart Show (that lasted 6 years) and Newhart (that lasted 9 years). He is now an occassional cast member on Desperate Housewives.

Another clean comedian and one of my favorites. I considered taking him early, but thought that he might be somewhat forgotten and would last. He is one of my clear cut favorite entertainers.

[albionmoonlight]

Originally Posted by Swaggs

Okay... looks like it to me, too.

My next pick is kind of a risk, but I am such a big fan of his that it would upset me to see him on another team.

With pick 3.10, I pick Bob Newhart. I'm tempted to use him in standup, but I think I will stick him in the sitcom role for now.

His standup album beat out Elvis's album and the Sound of Music soundtrack in sales upon its release and won a Grammy. He had two successful sitcoms with the Bob Newhart Show (that lasted 6 years) and Newhart (that lasted 9 years). He is now an occassional cast member on Desperate Housewives.

Another clean comedian and one of my favorites. I considered taking him early, but thought that he might be somewhat forgotten and would last. He is one of my clear cut favorite entertainers.

Awesome value pick. I totally forgot about him. He should have gone in the first two rounds.

[vtbub]

Well done Charlie.

[sabotai]

Just FYI, in case you forgot, but I think you have the 4.1 pick as well (unless I missed a trade)

[Swaggs]

Originally Posted by sabotai

Just FYI, in case you forgot, but I think you have the 4.1 pick as well (unless I missed a trade)

I'm on it.

Another potential risk, as I should probably start looking to fill the female roles, but I am going to try to hit a different demographic with this pick.

With selection 4.1, I will take Benny Hill and use him in the sketch role.

He may not be as popular among the under 30ish crowd, but as a slapstick comedian he ruled for a long, long time and was very popular around the world. His career kind of slowed down as he got older and political correctness came into vogue, but he worked well into his 60s.

Plus, he looked like this :



I believe albion is back on the clock.

[Maple Leafs]

Nice run of picks...

The best of the bunch, I think, was Newhart. Not only is the guy hilarious in general, but he achored two of the all-time great sitcoms. Fantastic pick.

I was wondering where Cleese would go. He was a guy I was half hoping would slip further since he was part of a group, but he's a very solid pick here.

Benny Hill isn't a bad choice, although I didn't have him on my list anytime soon. I'm not sold on Gervais, though. I like his work, but he feels like a reach in the third round given some of the other sitcom performers who are still available.

[albionmoonlight]

It kills me that I can't use him in sitcom, but I think that he also works in standup--where he had a lot of success and was a pioneer both in "Blue" Comedy and for every black comedian who came after him. And, because of his sitcom power, there is no way he is lasting until I pick again:

Redd Foxx (standup).

[sabotai]

Damn you albion!! Nice pick.

[albionmoonlight]

Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

I was wondering where Cleese would go. He was a guy I was half hoping would slip further since he was part of a group, but he's a very solid pick here.

I know that I lost some value here because other Monty Python guys will get picked later, and he will look like just one of the Python guys once people vote.

But, in my mind he is the best of the bunch and the most recognizable, so I wanted to make sure that I locked him down.

[Schmidty]

Just as an FYI to Maple Leafs, I selected Woody Allen as a stand-up.

[vtbub]

Originally Posted by Bearcat729

I would have went for two other people on her show, but it's not a bad choice.

There were three solid choices from that show. Since she was the host, I could slide her into my variety slot and take Tim Conway for my sketch pick.

[Maple Leafs]

Originally Posted by Schmidty

Just as an FYI to Maple Leafs, I selected Woody Allen as a stand-up.

Thanks... fixed.

kcchief is up.

[albionmoonlight]

Originally Posted by vtbub

There were three solid choices from that show. Since she was the host, I could slide her into my variety slot and take Tim Conway for my sketch pick.

And if you had not taken her, I would have, so you certainly picked the right order.

[sabotai]

*guesses kccheif didn't leave a long enough list to make another pick....*

[Maple Leafs]

Originally Posted by sabotai

*guesses kccheif didn't leave a long enough list to make another pick....*

That's why he only got one cookie.

[kcchief19]

Continuing my streak of off-beat selections ...

Phil Hartman, sketch comedy

Tempted to take him as a sitcom actor for NewsRadio and The Simpsons, but I think his work on SNL is more well known than NewsRadio. Some others I should have probably taken, but again a sentimental choice for me.

I would have taken Bob Newhart next in a heartbeat. I should have taken him on my last pic.

[sabotai]

I sent ML my next pick, but I'm here so here it is.

Roseanne Barr Stand Up

May not be the most popular and I'm not sure if many here are fans of her comedy. In fact, I'm not much of a fan of her's either. This pick is more out of repect for what her stand up career did. It revolutionized female stand up comics. Not to mention, she was named the 9th best stand up ever by Comedy Central.

[sabotai]

Haha, beat you!

Phil Hartman was high on my list, but I needed a female and thought Hartman would slip to next round...

[albionmoonlight]

Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

Sab sent his pick, with description:

Roseanne Barr, stand pp

May not be the most popular and I'm not sure if many here are fans of her comedy. In fact, I'm not much of a fan of her's either. This pick is more out of repect for what her stand up career did. It revolutionized female stand up comics. Not to mention, she was named the 9th best stand up ever by Comedy Central.

Rosanne Barr stands to pee-pee?

I knew it! She always seemed a bit mannish.

[sabotai]

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

Rosanne Barr stands to pee-pee?

I knew it! She always seemed a bit mannish.

Wouldn't surprise me.

[Radii]

Oliegirl is once again away, and sabotai picked just in time, as i'm leaving too.

Oliegirl selects Jim Carrey, pairing him with Eddie Murphy in movies, hopefully to become the strongest Movie tandem out there.

[kcchief19]

Excellent pick on on Roseanne. I was wondering how far she would slip. Woman will be tough to come by. I think that Comedy Central list had less than 10 women on it. Again, I also took her instead of Hartman.

I'm stunned Jim Carey fell so far. I wouldn't take him because I'm not a fan, but I projected him as a second rounder.

[Maple Leafs]

OK, here's the deal...

I had Roseanne slotted in for this round (was going to put her in the sitcom spot). I think she'd be a fantastic value here on merit alone, and with two women per team required she's an outright steal.

My backup plan was Phil Hartman. One of the greatest sketch comedians of all time. If that didn't work out, it was going to be Jim Carrey, to get started on the movie category.

I hate you all.

Anyways, now I'm stuck taking someone who I'm actually not a huge fan of. I think she's marginally over-rated as a standup, and to make matters worse I'm going to squeeze her into the movie category instead. On the other hand, she's a very recognizable name with mainstream appeal, has had several movie hits and is a big enough comedy star that she's hosted the Oscars. And I need to draft a broad. So I guess that's OK for round four.

With pick 4.7, I take Whoopi Goldberg (movies)

[sabotai]

I was thinking of Jim Carey, but to be honest, there are a lot of comedies of his style that had pretty good comedy movie careers. If the one I have in mind slips (and no ML, it's he's not on the list I sent you ), I'll take him soon. Maybe next pick, but I think he's under the radar and could slip a couple of more rounds.

[albionmoonlight]

I don't like Rosanne, but I think that she had to go where she did.

It's interesting trying to balance your personal like for people with their popularity with their "legendary" status.

[kcchief19]

Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

With pick 4.7, I take Whoopi Goldberg (movies)

Dear, God.

[sachmo71]

run on goils

[kcchief19]

Seriously ... dear, God.

[kcchief19]

My overall strategy from the very beginning was "Whatever I do, don't end up taking Whoopi Goldberg."

Dear, god. Oh, the humanity.

[sabotai]

Originally Posted by kcchief19

My overall strategy from the very beginning was "Whatever I do, don't end up taking Whoopi Goldberg."

Dear, god. Oh, the humanity.

You should be happy. Your strat worked.

[Maple Leafs]

Originally Posted by kcchief19

My overall strategy from the very beginning was "Whatever I do, don't end up taking Whoopi Goldberg."

My strategy was "since you need to take two women, don't be the one who gets stuck with Paula Poundstone in round eight".

[Schmidty]

Jon Stewart - Talk show/Variety

I figured that I better grab him while I still can.

[sachmo71]

Oy, can I get a ruling?

Can we count the Oscars as a variety show?

[Maple Leafs]

Originally Posted by sachmo71

Oy, can I get a ruling?

Can we count the Oscars as a variety show?

You could count the CBS Evening News as a variety show if you wanted to. The voters may not, though.

(But personally, yes, I'd say Oscar hosting duties could count for variety.)

[sabotai]

Oscars as a variety show? That's quite a stretch....if anything, it's a stand up gig. (EDIT: But I'm not runnign this thing, so ML has the word on it. )

[Maple Leafs]

Originally Posted by sabotai

Oscars as a variety show? That's quite a stretch....if anything, it's a stand up gig. (EDIT: But I'm not runnign this thing, so ML has the word on it. )

I believe that Oscar hosting is eligible for an Emmy in the variety/musical category, so I think it fits.

Again, some voters may not, so you take your chances.

(Edit: Of course, it helps if your pick is more of a singing/dancing host, which I suspect they will be in this case...)

[sachmo71]

I'm going with the commish here...

4.9 Billy Crystal Variety\Talk Show personality


I've been a fan of his since I saw him on Soap. Some of his stuff on Comic Relief was classic, he's a very good actor, and his standup is some of the funniest stuff I've ever seen. If you've ever seen his bit about his family's home movies, you know what I'm talking about. He was also one of my favorite Academy Awards hosts...never afraid to stir up the hollywood crowd.

[sachmo71]

Originally Posted by sabotai

Oscars as a variety show? That's quite a stretch....if anything, it's a stand up gig. (EDIT: But I'm not runnign this thing, so ML has the word on it. )

ah, there's singing and dancing, so I'm going for it. They are even in skits on the show, usually.

[sabotai]

I thought he was going to take Crystal after he asked that question. Honestly surprised he slipped to the 4th round. Would have also been a great pick for movies.

[sabotai]

Originally Posted by sachmo71

ah, there's singing and dancing, so I'm going for it. They are even in skits on the show, usually.

I guess it shows that I don't watch the Oscars.

[sachmo71]

Originally Posted by sabotai

I thought he was going to take Crystal after he asked that question. Honestly surprised he slipped to the 4th round. Would have also been a great pick for movies.

I have other plans for the movie slot...muhahaha!

[kcchief19]

Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

My strategy was "since you need to take two women, don't be the one who gets stuck with Paula Poundstone in round eight".

As long as we're making the decision-making process transparent, I'll admit that I was wondering weight the pros and cons of the next tier of funny women: some are bitchy, some are accussed child molesters, some are alcoholics. I know which two women I want -- one I think will be gone within less than a round, the other will probably drop to where ever I want to take her.

I've just never understood the dearth of women comedians. There are plenty of funny women, but I guess the glass ceiling keeps them down.

[Swaggs]

Roseanne Barr was a very good choice. I really considered her with my last set of picks, but thought that she probably turns as many people off as she attracts. Still, as a standup, I think she is a strong pick.

[DeToxRox]

4.10 - Sarah Silverman (Stand Up)