OT: The FOFC Television Draft - Draft Thread

[Abe Sargent]

Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

I think it's time to move on... I've asked someone to make a pick on Herd's behalf. The good news is that while we waited, a handful of other people did send lists so hopefully things will pick up.

I want to do good for HERD since he's a fellow fan of a WV institution. He has a couple of great other picks, so I figure he wants something else with this pick. So:


3.5 Show, Drama, The Twilight Zone.



-Anxiety

[Radii]

I like the Twilight Zone pick a lot, I had thought briefly about it during my last two picks.

I didn't comment on it yet, but the WKRP moment is awesome too, I started laughing the second I saw it. I never would have thought of it either.

[Maple Leafs]

kcchief sent his pick:

3.6 Performer, other - David Letterman (Late Night)

(Note that I think we need to count Late Night as one show since it's been on the same channel at the same time for it's whole run. In other words, this counts the Conan version too.)

[Maple Leafs]

For my pick, I'll go with a TV moment that set a ratings record that wasn't broken until Who Shot JR.

3.7 Moment, drama - Richard Kimble catches the one-armed man (The Fugitive)

[Abe Sargent]

Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

For my pick, I'll go with a TV moment that set a ratings record that wasn't broken until Who Shot JR.

3.7 Moment, drama - Richard Kimble catches the one-armed man (The Fugitive)

Nice.


-Anxiety

[Radii]

what happened to 3.4 and 3.5?

[Radii]

dola,
3.3 Show, Drama, The Twilight Zone(anxiety for herd), followed by 3.6(kcchief) is what threw me, I think the picks themselves are actulaly fine?

[Abe Sargent]

Originally Posted by Radii

dola,
3.3 Show, Drama, The Twilight Zone(anxiety for herd), followed by 3.6(kcchief) is what threw me, I think the picks themselves are actulaly fine?

Sorry about that, I had the order wrong - I edited my post to correct it.

-Anxiety

[Schmidty]

Ok, this will get met with derision, but oh well:

Drama, Performer - Star Trek: The Next Generation - Patrick Stewart (Jean Luc Picard)

[Raven]

Other, Moment - Survivor

Survivor: Pearl Islands Johnny Fairplay lies about the death of his grandmother to win a reward

Love or hate Survivor, it is the most succesful reality tv show. With this, I think I get the show, and the most memorable moment from it.

[Maple Leafs]

Nice... was wondering if Survivor would show up.

(Random ruling: "Survivor" is one show, even though each season has a different name.)

[ThunderingHERD]

Sorry about the hold up, I planned on getting up early and picking or sending in a list, but computer wasn't cooperating and I had to get to work. Anyway, thanks for the pick Anxiety, not bad at all.

[sachmo71]

3.10 Show, Drama, CSI

The one that started it all. Who knew crazy murders would be so popular!



4.1 Moment, Other, Jeopardy!, Ken Jennings loses in his bid to win his 75th game


Almost $2.7 million...on a GAME SHOW!!!

[JonInMiddleGA]

Maple Leafs -- you have a new PM (and an updated list from me).

I'm going to be out of pocket most of the day today, off to look at three houses as the great (and thus far, futile) search for a new home continues.

[Buccaneer]

Lots of nice memories here. Fwiw, I won't be voting for any teams that have Seinfeld, Letterman or Survivor entries.

[Maple Leafs]

OK, thanks to people sending in lists we can rattle off several picks in a row:

Raven's pick:
4.2 Performer, other - Kurt Cobain (MTV's Unplugged)

Schmidty's pick:
4.3 Show, other - 60 Minutes

My pick:
4.4 Show, drama - Roots

kcchief is on the clock

[Crapshoot]

Actually, 4.5 is mine - 4.7 is KCChief as per the deal. I'll come up with something soon.

[Crapshoot]

4.5 - Show - Drama - The Wonder Years

[Buccaneer]

Originally Posted by Crapshoot

4.5 - Show - Drama - The Wonder Years

We finally have a winner.

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by Crapshoot

4.5 - Show - Drama - The Wonder Years

It's one of my favorite shows of all-time, but I figured I could get it a bit later. Oh well.

[Maple Leafs]

Intersting pick... seems like a bit of a reach to me, but I know there are fans of the show who will appreciate the choice.

Herd is up... he did not send a pick, so hopefully he'll be by.

[ThunderingHERD]

Dang, you guys need to slow down. I'll have a pick in one sec.

[ThunderingHERD]

Moment, comedy - Ellen comes out (Ellen)

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by ThunderingHERD

Moment, comedy - Ellen comes out (Ellen)

*shudder*

Ellen creeps me out.

[Maple Leafs]

Jon's pick:

4.7 Moment, comedy - The brownie episode (Barney Miller)

kcchief is up.

[Crapshoot]

Originally Posted by Buccaneer

We finally have a winner.

Heh - I wouldn't have pegged you for a fan Bucc. One of my all time favorite shows, and I thought very much about taking Winnie's brother's death or the final episode as a moment.

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by Crapshoot

Heh - I wouldn't have pegged you for a fan Bucc. One of my all time favorite shows, and I thought very much about taking Winnie's brother's death or the final episode as a moment.

As embarrased as I am to admit this, it was the only TV show to ever make me cry. Maybe it was because I was going through puberty when I first started watching it, and later could relate to the teen episode since by then, I was a teen too. That was just an amazing, amazing show.

[Buccaneer]

Originally Posted by Crapshoot

Heh - I wouldn't have pegged you for a fan Bucc. One of my all time favorite shows, and I thought very much about taking Winnie's brother's death or the final episode as a moment.

Just do a search. We have talked about this show regularly here, including recently (in the thread about why TV shows decline or something like that). My ravings about Wonder Years is one of those things, like being a grumpy old man, that I thought is well known.

[kcchief19]

Keeping with my eccentric rep:

Drama, show: Perry Mason

Raymond Burr was simply amazing, and there is not a single lawyer/police drama that does owe something to this show. Some of the dialogue was a bit of the era, but by and large the plots and stories of Perry Mason are timeless; it's as good today as it was 50 years ago. Law & Order and its siblings are nothing more than modern day Perry Masons -- although I'm still surprised no one has tried to revive the show. I suppose the TV movies in the late '80s and early '90s spoiled the franchise a bit, but Raymond Burr on a bad day was still better than a lot of other people.

[kcchief19]

Originally Posted by Buccaneer

We finally have a winner.

You don't like Seinfeld or Letterman, but like the Wonder Years. I love ya Bucc, but sometimes I wonder what's wrong with you.

[Maple Leafs]

Radii sent his pick...

4.9 Show, comedy - South Park

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by kcchief19

Keeping with my eccentric rep:

Drama, show: Perry Mason

Raymond Burr was simply amazing, and there is not a single lawyer/police drama that does owe something to this show. Some of the dialogue was a bit of the era, but by and large the plots and stories of Perry Mason are timeless; it's as good today as it was 50 years ago. Law & Order and its siblings are nothing more than modern day Perry Masons -- although I'm still surprised no one has tried to revive the show. I suppose the TV movies in the late '80s and early '90s spoiled the franchise a bit, but Raymond Burr on a bad day was still better than a lot of other people.

How is Perry Mason eccentric????

Are you trying to sell your self as "counter-culture"? If so a pick like PM isn't helping your cause. (Not that it's a bad pick)

[kcchief19]

Originally Posted by Schmidty

How is Perry Mason eccentric????

Are you trying to sell your self as "counter-culture"? If so a pick like PM isn't helping your cause. (Not that it's a bad pick)

Maybe eclectic is a better word. I'm NOT going for a counter-culture image, I'm just drafting what I like and letting the chips fall where they may.

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by kcchief19

Maybe eclectic is a better word. I'm going for a counter-culture image, I'm just drafting what I like and letting the chips fall where they may.

That's cool, but I would hardly call "Perry Mason" counter-culture. Hell, my grandparents STILL love that show, and they aren't remotely counter-culture. I've never met anyone who didn't know who Pery Mason was.

[Radii]

Perry Mason is good and something I'd never have thought of. Barney Miller isn't something I watched much so I don't know how that one will go over. I really don't know how South Park will go over either, but its one of my favorite shows and basically carried Comedy Central/The Comedy Channel for awhile when they were getting away from all standup all the time, which hopefully counts for something

Besides the simple toilet humor, I love the way they can have a show about any issue, offend everyone involved but in the end make a very intelligent and very reasonable point about an issue.

[kcchief19]

Originally Posted by Schmidty

That's cool, but I would hardly call "Perry Mason" counter-culture. Hell, my grandparents STILL love that show, and they aren't remotely counter-culture. I've never met anyone who didn't know who Pery Mason was.

Ack. I accidentally left out the word "NOT" when saying I was not trying to be counter culture.

Then again, Perry Mason had a number of episodes with beatnik characters and other counter-culture issues long before they became mainstream. Interestingly, these characters were usually portrayed very positive, unlike say on another crime show I won't mention where counter-culture characters were often the criminals.

[Karlifornia]

Originally Posted by Radii

Perry Mason is good and something I'd never have thought of. Barney Miller isn't something I watched much so I don't know how that one will go over. I really don't know how South Park will go over either, but its one of my favorite shows and basically carried Comedy Central/The Comedy Channel for awhile when they were getting away from all standup all the time, which hopefully counts for something

Besides the simple toilet humor, I love the way they can have a show about any issue, offend everyone involved but in the end make a very intelligent and very reasonable point about an issue.

South Park is the most intelligently executed cartoon ever. It's even more intelligent and cutting-edge than the Simpsons, and I'm a Simpsons apologist. What makes this funny is that I can rarely stop channel-surfing because of South Park. I'm not sure what idea I'm trying to convey here, but I guess it's that South Park is an awesome show with an awesome resume, but it doesn't quite have that emotional pull...

I'm probably dead wrong.

[WSUCougar]

4.10: Actor, comedy, Kelsey Grammer (Frasier)

5.1: Show, drama, The Sopranos

And if possible, I'd like to change my M*A*S*H pick to comedy rather than drama.

[Crapshoot]

Originally Posted by WSUCougar

4.10: Actor, comedy, Kelsey Grammer (Frasier)

5.1: Show, drama, The Sopranos

And if possible, I'd like to change my M*A*S*H pick to comedy rather than drama.

Nice set WS - I was going to go for the Sopranos at 2.5 or 4.5, but felt other things topped it - but a good pick. Ditto on Frasier, as my Cheers pick will attest.

[Maple Leafs]

Radii sent his pick, and I think he's getting excellent value here:

5.2 Show, drama - Hill Street Blues

WSUCougar, sorry, no changing picks after they've been made. I think we'll see some teams realizing they've drafted themselves into corners early on and overcoming that will be part of the strategy.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

Radii sent his pick, and I think he's getting excellent value here:

I agree (especially since he knocked me out of one of my "moments" with it).

[Radii]

I am extremely happy with my draft so far. I think everyone has done well but I've gotten pretty much everything I wanted to this point. I had thought of the Sopranos and that's a solid pick. I assume many voters will give Kelsey Grammer his due for Cheers and possibly the Simpsons as well, which makes that a very good pick too.

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by Radii

I am extremely happy with my draft so far. I think everyone has done well but I've gotten pretty much everything I wanted to this point.

I agree with you. I feel happy with mine as well; however, I have a feeling that the draft is going to get EXTREMELY tough within a round or so. Because of that, I'm going to pick my favorites, regardless of whether the voters will like it.

[Maple Leafs]

A reminder to everyone that now would be a good time to start paying attention to which spots you've already filled. Remember, you need three shows, performers and moments, as well as three each from comedy, drama and other. You also have one wildcard.

For example, Raven has already used four "other" picks, and other teams have three in a category.

[WSUCougar]

Nice one with Hill Street, Radii. If I didn't pick The Sopranos I would have gone with that classic cop show instead.

[kcchief19]

Originally Posted by RadioFriendlyUnitShifter

South Park is the most intelligently executed cartoon ever. It's even more intelligent and cutting-edge than the Simpsons, and I'm a Simpsons apologist. What makes this funny is that I can rarely stop channel-surfing because of South Park. I'm not sure what idea I'm trying to convey here, but I guess it's that South Park is an awesome show with an awesome resume, but it doesn't quite have that emotional pull...

I couldn't disagree more. I think South Park is one of those shows or performances that are dramatically overrated merely because they break social taboos. I call this the "Andrew Dice Clay Effect." Andrew Dice Clay was not remotely funny, but people thought he was funny because he did nursery rhymes with the word "pussy" in them. Certain people laughed and though it was funny for the same reason second-graders laugh their ass off at words like "fart" -- because social norms tell them that word is off limits.

That said, I think there is a lot of cleverness to South Park. I think a lot of the show's satire is well done and is very valid. But I think any value South Park has in its social commentary is often obscured by sophomoric elements.

[Maple Leafs]

Right now I have picks from Raven and Jon (thanks guys). We'll be looking to move quickly and hopefully finish this up by mid-week, so if you won't be checking in often then please send at least a few picks along to help us keep moving. If you can't check the forum during the day and you won't send in picks, you will be replaced.

[Maple Leafs]

Bump... Crapshoot has been on the clock since yesterday afternoon.

[Crapshoot]

give me 5 min - sorry about that.

[WSUCougar]

Originally Posted by Crapshoot

give me 5 min - sorry about that.

Proposed Penalty: Actress, comedy, Roseanne Barr