CIV4 Pitboss game --- gauging interest - Page 4

spleen1015 · 07-14-2006, 08:59 PM

You are correct. I have to wait a few seconds.

Sorry for the confusion.

Yossarian · 07-14-2006, 09:07 PM

any chance we can rename the two AI Spleen1015's?

WVUFAN · 07-14-2006, 11:06 PM

Runtheball has given me permission to take over one of the open civs. Any one in particular y'all would suggest I take over?

Galaxy · 07-14-2006, 11:11 PM

Not to threadjack, but is the e-mail "multiplayer" version good?

Franklinnoble · 07-14-2006, 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WVUFAN

Runtheball has given me permission to take over one of the open civs. Any one in particular y'all would suggest I take over?

You could take over Egypt, and end the war. Or the Aztecs, and end that war, too.

Franklinnoble · 07-14-2006, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Galaxy

Not to threadjack, but is the e-mail "multiplayer" version good?

Yeah, the PBEM works. It's slow, due to the nature of PBEM, but it's solid.

WVUFAN · 07-15-2006, 05:02 AM

There has been an overthrow of the current government of the Egyptian people. There is a new ruler.

The People of Egypt offer to end all hostilities toward the peoples of Mongolia and Arabia in exchange for the same.

Runtheball · 07-15-2006, 09:15 AM

Woohooo!
Well, actually, I was hoping that in a few hundred years, with Franklin's help, I might expand into the Egyptian lands. Oh well, welcome to the neighborhood.

Franklinnoble · 07-15-2006, 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Runtheball

Woohooo!
Well, actually, I was hoping that in a few hundred years, with Franklin's help, I might expand into the Egyptian lands. Oh well, welcome to the neighborhood.

Who says that still can't happen?

Now we just need to smack down the Aztecs... And something tells me Germany is going to become a problem.

Runtheball · 07-15-2006, 10:11 AM

Does anyone even know where Germany is? The world looks pretty small from where I'm at.

Yossarian · 07-15-2006, 12:35 PM

germany is on our continent.

Franklinnoble · 07-18-2006, 01:45 PM

Anyone seen WVUFan around? His other two games have been offline for two days, and his turn timed out here...

Yossarian · 07-18-2006, 01:48 PM

I think this:

Quote:

Originally Posted by WVUFAN
Starting now until tomorrow afternoon, the game will be down while I do some work on the systems here. Expect the game to be back up mid-day tomorrow. The progress of the game thus far has been saved.

Is still the case ('mid-day tomorrow' not withstanding)

spleen1015 · 07-18-2006, 01:48 PM

He mentioned he was working on his computer in his game's thread.

Franklinnoble · 07-20-2006, 12:02 AM

My rush to Optics has paid off. The mighty Mongols (who probably never set foot on a boat in actual history) are the first to circumnavigate the globe.

Now we have a better chance of outrunning our bigger rivals.

Runtheball · 07-20-2006, 09:39 AM

Any objections to shortening the turn clock from 18 to 15 hours?

spleen1015 · 07-20-2006, 09:52 AM

I don't have any.

Yossarian · 07-20-2006, 10:01 AM

go for it

Franklinnoble · 07-20-2006, 11:52 AM

Yeah... more turns are better.

Runtheball · 07-20-2006, 08:21 PM

Well danged if I can find a way to change the time limit. Should be easy to do. I took down the game, reloaded pitboss, and thought that would allow me to change settings, but no. Did a search on Apolyton web site, couldn't find the answer there.

We may be stuck with an 18 hour limit. The good thing is, we rarely go past about 12 hours anyway (until this week).

WVUfan has not been taking his turns, so the game has kinda dragged lately. He's got alot of other stuff going on lately, so has asked me to put Egypt back on AI control until he can return. He says he should be back in a few days.

Everyone start pimping SimCiv so we can generate more interest. I've postponed the start of that game, but if there's significant interest I could start it next week. I'll set that one to a 12 hour turn clock.

Franklinnoble · 07-21-2006, 10:56 AM

I wanna know what Yossarian's strategy is... he's kicking ass in this game.

What's with all the 1GPT "gifts" to Montezuma?

Runtheball · 07-21-2006, 12:28 PM

Sorry folks, but I had to reboot my computer, and the save file I made prior to the reboot didn't work. We will need to re-do the current turn.

Runtheball · 07-21-2006, 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franklinnoble

I wanna know what Yossarian's strategy is... he's kicking ass in this game.

What's with all the 1GPT "gifts" to Montezuma?

That's strange. Never heard of this before. How did you find out that he's doing this?

Franklinnoble · 07-21-2006, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Runtheball

That's strange. Never heard of this before. How did you find out that he's doing this?

Diplomatic advisor screen shows all your ongoing trade arrangements with other players (doesn't show one-time deals, just stuff like "silks to montezuma for 1GPT).

Anyhow, he has three separate 1gpt deals to Montezuma, with nothing in return. Either he's paying him to do something, or it's some sort of diplomatic strategy.

My suspicion is that he's paying Montezuma to harass Sharon, keeping her from expanding north towards his territory while the Aztec threat exists to the south.

Yossarian · 07-21-2006, 02:14 PM

I say noooooottthhhiiinnggggggg

except that im afraid of the dark and suspect (wthout any real evidence) that multiple small gifts might impress the AI (and keep away 'the dark') more than one big gift.

But i'm kinda just guessing that

Plus, I'm not top of the game anyway - are you not second behind Frederick?

Franklinnoble · 07-21-2006, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yossarian

I say noooooottthhhiiinnggggggg

except that im afraid of the dark and suspect (wthout any real evidence) that multiple small gifts might impress the AI (and keep away 'the dark') more than one big gift.

But i'm kinda just guessing that

Plus, I'm not top of the game anyway - are you not second behind Frederick?

You're at the top of the research ladder (well, except for maybe Frederick). I think my score is only higher because ... I have no idea why my score is higher, actually.

spleen1015 · 07-21-2006, 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franklinnoble

You're at the top of the research ladder (well, except for maybe Frederick). I think my score is only higher because ... I have no idea why my score is higher, actually.

More troops, maybe?

Franklinnoble · 07-21-2006, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by spleen1015

More troops, maybe?

I doubt it. I slashed military spending a little while ago because my initial land grab left my empire too expensive to manage. Maybe I get brownie points for my navigational prowess.

Yossarian · 07-21-2006, 03:09 PM

you're at top at least in part because you had your own island and have thus expanded much more than anyone else - you've got tonnes of cities compared to me. also, you had a bit spike jump. I'm guessing you met a lot of civs and got some badass trading or something...

Franklinnoble · 07-21-2006, 04:25 PM

Maybe. Like I said, the expansion has been costly, as I don't really have the infrastructure to support all the cities I have now.

I've met just about everyone thanks to all the caravels I have cruising around, and I've made a few tech trades, but I still think you have a substantial edge with gunpowder right now.

Yossarian · 07-21-2006, 04:42 PM

I'm going to show all you americans my USA inspired 'foreign policy' :-p

Franklinnoble · 07-21-2006, 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yossarian

I'm going to show all you americans my USA inspired 'foreign policy' :-p

You're going to give a ton of aid to your less privileged neighbors?

Yossarian · 07-21-2006, 04:51 PM

good retort :-)

Franklinnoble · 07-21-2006, 07:24 PM

And now Germany declares war on Sharon.

I would advise Yossarian and Spleen to take up arms against the Germans.

Look at the map of your continent, fellas. Germany is already the dominant force. There's no chance she can hold them off alone. Imagine what the map will look like if Russia becomes German territory.

Think you have a chance of stopping them after that happens?

spleen1015 · 07-22-2006, 08:01 AM

Yossarian, will you give me open borders?

Yossarian · 07-22-2006, 08:42 AM

Open borders granted.

I'm happy to join in a multinational anti german force but i'll need a decent number of turns to reinforce my own cities and create enough of an army to make it worthwhile. I'm thinking, realistically, like 10 turns or maybe even more.

Franklinnoble · 07-22-2006, 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yossarian

Open borders granted.

I'm happy to join in a multinational anti german force but i'll need a decent number of turns to reinforce my own cities and create enough of an army to make it worthwhile. I'm thinking, realistically, like 10 turns or maybe even more.

It will take at least that long for me to invent and build the galleons to send troops from mongolia.

The sooner you declare war, the better. It will split Frederick's focus. In my experience, the AI doesn't fight on multiple fronts very well, anyway, and if your border cities already have musketmen, there is almost zero chance he'll be able to capture them right now.

Yossarian · 07-22-2006, 10:48 AM

my border cities (um.. ALL my cities) have warriors in them if anything. I have invented gunpowder... i dont' actualyl have any units. check the power graph.

spleen1015 · 07-22-2006, 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yossarian

my border cities (um.. ALL my cities) have warriors in them if anything. I have invented gunpowder... i dont' actualyl have any units. check the power graph.

I have swordsman and axeman all over the place. I should have came after you!

spleen1015 · 07-22-2006, 12:21 PM

Tell Sharon:

"GANDHI TO THE RESCUE!"

Franklinnoble · 07-22-2006, 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yossarian

my border cities (um.. ALL my cities) have warriors in them if anything. I have invented gunpowder... i dont' actualyl have any units. check the power graph.

Umm... Sharon sees a musketman of yours parked right outside the barbarian city of Scythian.

Franklinnoble · 07-22-2006, 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spleen1015

Tell Sharon:

"GANDHI TO THE RESCUE!"

Awesome... thanks!

Ever seen "UHF"?

Quote:

Originally Posted by UHF

Next week, on U-62, he's back! And this time, he's mad.

Gandhi II!

No more Mr. Passive Resistance. He's out to kick some butt. This is one bad mother you don't want to mess with.

Yossarian · 07-22-2006, 04:56 PM

i'm not saying idon't have ANY units - but compare my power graph to sharons and everyone else without gunpowder - i'm roughly the same. I'm building gun dudes and i have two or three but in 3 or 4 of my 6 cities, i have a warrior, or skirmisher guarding them them so i'll help, but the first part of that is defending the homeland.

Looking at the power charts and 'score graph' it doesn't look like sharon's actually suffered any losses so i don't think we need to panic to be honest.

i'm all in favour of expandnig into german territory trust me.

Franklinnoble · 07-22-2006, 06:43 PM

No, she hasn't suffered any losses (to Germany yet - Montezuma took out a horse archer), and nobody's panicking (it's just a game

). I'm just looking at the world map I have and particularly one of that continent, and Germany looks like a real threat. So, I'm just humbly asking for help. Sharon is doing everything she can - slave-rushing new units (costing population points), and generally fighting a really good defensive war at this point - but with two fronts to fight on, she can't take the battle to them.

I've just declared war on Germany. Best I can do at this point is use my caravels to pick off any galleys they have on the coast. I am researching Astronomy right now, and will move troops to the battle as soon as possible.

spleen1015 · 07-22-2006, 09:17 PM

I have 9 swordsman I can spare heading that way.

Franklinnoble · 07-22-2006, 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spleen1015

I have 9 swordsman I can spare heading that way.

Nice! That ought to get Frederick's attention.

Runtheball · 07-23-2006, 08:10 AM

Franklin, thanks for the trade offer. I think I blew the acceptance of it. I re-made the offer so hopefully you can accept it.

I have a great scientist now, and am only two turns away from having calendar, so that will help me to catch up a bit technologically. Right now I'm struggling to avoid bankruptcy while I rush to complete some markets. My economy is a mess after that long war with Egypt.

I wish I could offer some support to Sharon, but we're a very pathetic civ right now, and if WVUfan doesn't come back soon I still have Egypt to worry about. I'm also worried that if I can't convert the Americans with culture (a very real possibility it seems) then they'll soon attack as I'm much weaker than they are. Being sandwiched between two AI civs sucks!!!

Franklinnoble · 07-23-2006, 06:24 PM

Fortunately, I don't think Washington is going to be much of a problem right away. I'd worry more about Egypt.

Franklinnoble · 07-24-2006, 04:59 PM

Man, Yossarian... you're impossible to trade with, dude.

Sharon says you're "stingy mean"

Yossarian · 07-24-2006, 05:25 PM

ha ha ha funny

i keep trying to message you guys with alternative trades but i'm not sure if you're getting the text.

The tech that I have costs like 2000 beakers, drama and the other one you guys were offering cost like 500 each or something...

Just holding out for fair offers y'know :-)

07-14-2006, 11:06 PM	#153
WVUFAN College Starter Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Huntington, WV	Runtheball has given me permission to take over one of the open civs. Any one in particular y'all would suggest I take over? __________________

07-15-2006, 05:02 AM	#157
WVUFAN College Starter Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Huntington, WV	There has been an overthrow of the current government of the Egyptian people. There is a new ruler. The People of Egypt offer to end all hostilities toward the peoples of Mongolia and Arabia in exchange for the same. __________________

07-15-2006, 09:15 AM	#158
Runtheball High School JV Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: outside of Atlanta, GA	Woohooo! Well, actually, I was hoping that in a few hundred years, with Franklin's help, I might expand into the Egyptian lands. Oh well, welcome to the neighborhood. __________________ Beware the beast "Man", for he is the Devil's pawn. Alone among God's primates he kills for sport, or lust, or greed. Yea, he will murder his brother to possess his brother's land. Let him not breed in great numbers, for he will make a desert of his home and yours. Shun him, for he is the harbinger of death. -- The Lawgiver

07-15-2006, 10:11 AM	#160
Runtheball High School JV Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: outside of Atlanta, GA	Does anyone even know where Germany is? The world looks pretty small from where I'm at. __________________ Beware the beast "Man", for he is the Devil's pawn. Alone among God's primates he kills for sport, or lust, or greed. Yea, he will murder his brother to possess his brother's land. Let him not breed in great numbers, for he will make a desert of his home and yours. Shun him, for he is the harbinger of death. -- The Lawgiver

07-20-2006, 09:39 AM	#166
Runtheball High School JV Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: outside of Atlanta, GA	Any objections to shortening the turn clock from 18 to 15 hours? __________________ Beware the beast "Man", for he is the Devil's pawn. Alone among God's primates he kills for sport, or lust, or greed. Yea, he will murder his brother to possess his brother's land. Let him not breed in great numbers, for he will make a desert of his home and yours. Shun him, for he is the harbinger of death. -- The Lawgiver

07-14-2006, 08:59 PM	#151
spleen1015 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003	You are correct. I have to wait a few seconds. Sorry for the confusion.

07-14-2006, 09:07 PM	#152
Yossarian High School Varsity Join Date: Jul 2003	any chance we can rename the two AI Spleen1015's?

07-14-2006, 11:11 PM	#154
Galaxy Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2005	Not to threadjack, but is the e-mail "multiplayer" version good?

07-15-2006, 12:35 PM	#161
Yossarian High School Varsity Join Date: Jul 2003	germany is on our continent.

07-18-2006, 01:45 PM	#162
Franklinnoble Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Placerville, CA	Anyone seen WVUFan around? His other two games have been offline for two days, and his turn timed out here...

07-18-2006, 01:48 PM	#164
spleen1015 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003	He mentioned he was working on his computer in his game's thread.

07-20-2006, 12:02 AM	#165
Franklinnoble Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Placerville, CA	My rush to Optics has paid off. The mighty Mongols (who probably never set foot on a boat in actual history) are the first to circumnavigate the globe. Now we have a better chance of outrunning our bigger rivals.

07-20-2006, 09:52 AM	#167
spleen1015 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003	I don't have any.

07-20-2006, 10:01 AM	#168
Yossarian High School Varsity Join Date: Jul 2003	go for it

07-20-2006, 11:52 AM	#169
Franklinnoble Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Placerville, CA	Yeah... more turns are better.

07-20-2006, 08:21 PM	#170
Runtheball High School JV Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: outside of Atlanta, GA	Well danged if I can find a way to change the time limit. Should be easy to do. I took down the game, reloaded pitboss, and thought that would allow me to change settings, but no. Did a search on Apolyton web site, couldn't find the answer there. We may be stuck with an 18 hour limit. The good thing is, we rarely go past about 12 hours anyway (until this week). WVUfan has not been taking his turns, so the game has kinda dragged lately. He's got alot of other stuff going on lately, so has asked me to put Egypt back on AI control until he can return. He says he should be back in a few days. Everyone start pimping SimCiv so we can generate more interest. I've postponed the start of that game, but if there's significant interest I could start it next week. I'll set that one to a 12 hour turn clock. __________________ Beware the beast "Man", for he is the Devil's pawn. Alone among God's primates he kills for sport, or lust, or greed. Yea, he will murder his brother to possess his brother's land. Let him not breed in great numbers, for he will make a desert of his home and yours. Shun him, for he is the harbinger of death. -- The Lawgiver

07-21-2006, 10:56 AM	#171
Franklinnoble Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Placerville, CA	I wanna know what Yossarian's strategy is... he's kicking ass in this game. What's with all the 1GPT "gifts" to Montezuma?

07-21-2006, 12:28 PM	#172
Runtheball High School JV Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: outside of Atlanta, GA	Sorry folks, but I had to reboot my computer, and the save file I made prior to the reboot didn't work. We will need to re-do the current turn. __________________ Beware the beast "Man", for he is the Devil's pawn. Alone among God's primates he kills for sport, or lust, or greed. Yea, he will murder his brother to possess his brother's land. Let him not breed in great numbers, for he will make a desert of his home and yours. Shun him, for he is the harbinger of death. -- The Lawgiver

07-21-2006, 02:14 PM	#175
Yossarian High School Varsity Join Date: Jul 2003	I say noooooottthhhiiinnggggggg except that im afraid of the dark and suspect (wthout any real evidence) that multiple small gifts might impress the AI (and keep away 'the dark') more than one big gift. But i'm kinda just guessing that Plus, I'm not top of the game anyway - are you not second behind Frederick?

07-21-2006, 03:09 PM	#179
Yossarian High School Varsity Join Date: Jul 2003	you're at top at least in part because you had your own island and have thus expanded much more than anyone else - you've got tonnes of cities compared to me. also, you had a bit spike jump. I'm guessing you met a lot of civs and got some badass trading or something...

07-21-2006, 04:25 PM	#180
Franklinnoble Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Placerville, CA	Maybe. Like I said, the expansion has been costly, as I don't really have the infrastructure to support all the cities I have now. I've met just about everyone thanks to all the caravels I have cruising around, and I've made a few tech trades, but I still think you have a substantial edge with gunpowder right now.

07-21-2006, 04:42 PM	#181
Yossarian High School Varsity Join Date: Jul 2003	I'm going to show all you americans my USA inspired 'foreign policy' :-p

07-21-2006, 04:51 PM	#183
Yossarian High School Varsity Join Date: Jul 2003	good retort :-)

07-21-2006, 07:24 PM	#184
Franklinnoble Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Placerville, CA	And now Germany declares war on Sharon. I would advise Yossarian and Spleen to take up arms against the Germans. Look at the map of your continent, fellas. Germany is already the dominant force. There's no chance she can hold them off alone. Imagine what the map will look like if Russia becomes German territory. Think you have a chance of stopping them after that happens?

07-22-2006, 08:01 AM	#185
spleen1015 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003	Yossarian, will you give me open borders?

07-22-2006, 08:42 AM	#186
Yossarian High School Varsity Join Date: Jul 2003	Open borders granted. I'm happy to join in a multinational anti german force but i'll need a decent number of turns to reinforce my own cities and create enough of an army to make it worthwhile. I'm thinking, realistically, like 10 turns or maybe even more.

07-22-2006, 10:48 AM	#188
Yossarian High School Varsity Join Date: Jul 2003	my border cities (um.. ALL my cities) have warriors in them if anything. I have invented gunpowder... i dont' actualyl have any units. check the power graph.

07-22-2006, 12:21 PM	#190
spleen1015 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003	Tell Sharon: "GANDHI TO THE RESCUE!"

07-22-2006, 04:56 PM	#193
Yossarian High School Varsity Join Date: Jul 2003	i'm not saying idon't have ANY units - but compare my power graph to sharons and everyone else without gunpowder - i'm roughly the same. I'm building gun dudes and i have two or three but in 3 or 4 of my 6 cities, i have a warrior, or skirmisher guarding them them so i'll help, but the first part of that is defending the homeland. Looking at the power charts and 'score graph' it doesn't look like sharon's actually suffered any losses so i don't think we need to panic to be honest. i'm all in favour of expandnig into german territory trust me.

07-22-2006, 06:43 PM	#194
Franklinnoble Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Placerville, CA	No, she hasn't suffered any losses (to Germany yet - Montezuma took out a horse archer), and nobody's panicking (it's just a game ). I'm just looking at the world map I have and particularly one of that continent, and Germany looks like a real threat. So, I'm just humbly asking for help. Sharon is doing everything she can - slave-rushing new units (costing population points), and generally fighting a really good defensive war at this point - but with two fronts to fight on, she can't take the battle to them. I've just declared war on Germany. Best I can do at this point is use my caravels to pick off any galleys they have on the coast. I am researching Astronomy right now, and will move troops to the battle as soon as possible. Last edited by Franklinnoble : 07-22-2006 at 06:45 PM.

07-22-2006, 09:17 PM	#195
spleen1015 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003	I have 9 swordsman I can spare heading that way.

07-23-2006, 08:10 AM	#197
Runtheball High School JV Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: outside of Atlanta, GA	Franklin, thanks for the trade offer. I think I blew the acceptance of it. I re-made the offer so hopefully you can accept it. I have a great scientist now, and am only two turns away from having calendar, so that will help me to catch up a bit technologically. Right now I'm struggling to avoid bankruptcy while I rush to complete some markets. My economy is a mess after that long war with Egypt. I wish I could offer some support to Sharon, but we're a very pathetic civ right now, and if WVUfan doesn't come back soon I still have Egypt to worry about. I'm also worried that if I can't convert the Americans with culture (a very real possibility it seems) then they'll soon attack as I'm much weaker than they are. Being sandwiched between two AI civs sucks!!! __________________ Beware the beast "Man", for he is the Devil's pawn. Alone among God's primates he kills for sport, or lust, or greed. Yea, he will murder his brother to possess his brother's land. Let him not breed in great numbers, for he will make a desert of his home and yours. Shun him, for he is the harbinger of death. -- The Lawgiver

07-23-2006, 06:24 PM	#198
Franklinnoble Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Placerville, CA	Fortunately, I don't think Washington is going to be much of a problem right away. I'd worry more about Egypt.

07-24-2006, 04:59 PM	#199
Franklinnoble Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Placerville, CA	Man, Yossarian... you're impossible to trade with, dude. Sharon says you're "stingy mean"

07-24-2006, 05:25 PM	#200
Yossarian High School Varsity Join Date: Jul 2003	ha ha ha funny i keep trying to message you guys with alternative trades but i'm not sure if you're getting the text. The tech that I have costs like 2000 beakers, drama and the other one you guys were offering cost like 500 each or something... Just holding out for fair offers y'know :-)