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Old 08-31-2006, 03:50 PM   #151
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Old 08-31-2006, 03:51 PM   #152
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Old 08-31-2006, 03:52 PM   #153
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How are you able to see me with your ignore button on?

Why would I put you on ignore when I can make fun of your grammar, lack of understanding of the Bible and God, and your ability to pull made up facts out of your ass?
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Old 08-31-2006, 04:00 PM   #154
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Wait, if today's conservatives are yesterday's classical liberals, then doesn't this make you a liberal?

And you're the one who's confused by what makes up a liberal today by casting everyone who disagrees with you in that role. Not all liberals are socialists, just like not every conservative is a fascist.

This conservative/facist thing is the biggest myth pushed on kids today by the public indoctrination gulags. This is where I like to play...who am I?

Who Am I?

I started my career as a starving artist, wanting in fact to become a Catholic Priest. After fighting in a war where I was severly wounded and decorated, I became a political activist that demonstrated for changes during a time of democracy.

I was also a best-selling author.

I was elected to office and moved to consolidate my base. Believing in a strong, centralized government I quickly moved to institute national gun control. I also used money and influence to raise up political action groups to support my positions, using public demonstrations to my advantage.

An animal lover, I was also a firm believer in group rights. Individuals are always subject to the will of the state for the good of the masses.

Speaking of masses, public works and transportation were also at the head of my priorities. Ever the populist, one of my most enduring legacies has been a small, affordable motor car.

Oh yes, banning offending speech was also high on my list of priorities.

Who Am I?

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Old 08-31-2006, 04:15 PM   #155
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Old 08-31-2006, 04:15 PM   #156
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Bubba: What the fuck is that supposed to prove? Seriously.

Edit to add that Bubba's a moron.
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Old 08-31-2006, 04:18 PM   #157
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Bubba: What the fuck is that supposed to prove? Seriously.

There was nothing 'conservative' about Hitler. He and Stalin were two sides of the same coin. In fact, they were actually allies when Hitler invaded Poland.
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Old 08-31-2006, 04:18 PM   #158
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This conservative/facist thing is the biggest myth pushed on kids today by the public indocrination gulags. This is where I like to play...who am I?

Who Am I?

You are Adolph Hitler. So, we've determined that you're Hitler. What's your point? That Hitler had some socialist programs? Well, he was head of the National Socialist German Workers Party, but does that make him a socialist, especially given his absolute hatred of communism?

Do you deny that fascism is inherently conservative? Are you one of those that calls bin Laden an Islamo-fascist? Are you going to tell me that you consider bin Laden a liberal?
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Old 08-31-2006, 04:19 PM   #159
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Old 08-31-2006, 04:20 PM   #160
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There was nothing 'conservative' about Hitler. He and Stalin were two sides of the same coin. In fact, they were actually allies when Hitler invaded Poland.

Seriously, you really need to read some World War II history before you start spouting stuff like this. Hey, we were allies with Stalin during World War II also. I guess we must be communist as well.
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Old 08-31-2006, 04:20 PM   #161
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I got it first. As a prize, will you ad POL to the thread title?

Yes, Mr. Monk, because you won I will add the word POL to the title!
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Old 08-31-2006, 04:22 PM   #162
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Jesus Bubba, you really have no understanding of history. To try to paint Hitler or Stalin as a modern day liberal or conservative is complete idiocy.

And do some reading about the Molotov/Ribbentrop Agreement. Allies they weren't and it was Hitler's belief that the Bolsheviks were part of the Jewish threat. There was never any doubt that eventually Germany would attack the Soviets.
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Old 08-31-2006, 04:22 PM   #163
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Checked the poster's name: Coder...claims to be in Sweden. That would explain much. Europe turned its back on Christ long ago, now its paying for it by becoming Muslim.

Yup.. we're all Muslim here! I've even got a painting of Mohammed on my wall.. oh.. wait.. that's illegal according to the Koran!

I still think you're funny Bubba
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Old 08-31-2006, 04:22 PM   #164
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Seriously, you really need to read some World War II history before you start spouting stuff like this. Hey, we were allies with Stalin during World War II also. I guess we must be communist as well.

Many in our government were indeed communist, VP Henry Wallace being the most prominent. But that's another debate for another time. Read 'Treason' by, of course, Ann Coulter.
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Old 08-31-2006, 04:23 PM   #165
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Yup.. we're all Muslim here! I've even got a painting of Mohammed on my wall.. oh.. wait.. that's illegal according to the Koran!

I still think you're funny Bubba

And my wife loves to shop at the new, local IKEA!
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Old 08-31-2006, 04:25 PM   #166
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Jesus Bubba, you really have no understanding of history. To try to paint Hitler or Stalin as a modern day liberal or conservative is complete idiocy.

And do some reading about the Molotov/Ribbentrop Agreement. Allies they weren't and it was Hitler's belief that the Bolsheviks were part of the Jewish threat. There was never any doubt that eventually Germany would attack the Soviets.

Guess Stalin should have known that then, eh? Too bad for him.
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Old 08-31-2006, 04:31 PM   #167
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And my wife loves to shop at the new, local IKEA!

I have several shelves named Billy.. none named Bubba. I'll get a message to Ingvar Kamprad and ask him to name a couch or something Bubba...

Seriously, about our degenerate European society with our backs against God.. well I can only speak for Sweden, but exactly how does this affect us? I mean, how do we fare worse than, lets say Americans (who have a great deal of respect for, having lived in the US)?

Do we have more crime? More murders perhaps? Do we have more sinners in general? Greedier people? More obese people? Less intelligent people?

I'm curious.
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Old 08-31-2006, 04:31 PM   #168
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Old 08-31-2006, 04:33 PM   #169
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Old 08-31-2006, 04:37 PM   #170
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Old 08-31-2006, 04:39 PM   #171
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Many in our government were indeed communist, VP Henry Wallace being the most prominent. But that's another debate for another time. Read 'Treason' by, of course, Ann Coulter.

Thanks, but I'd rather spend my time reading legitimate books.

I don't doubt that there were some communists in our government, but that doesn't make the government as a whole communist. I'm sure there are Muslims in our government today (GASP!), but I don't think anyone in their right mind would call America an Islamic nation.
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Old 08-31-2006, 04:53 PM   #172
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I have several shelves named Billy.. none named Bubba. I'll get a message to Ingvar Kamprad and ask him to name a couch or something Bubba...

Seriously, about our degenerate European society with our backs against God.. well I can only speak for Sweden, but exactly how does this affect us? I mean, how do we fare worse than, lets say Americans (who have a great deal of respect for, having lived in the US)?

Do we have more crime? More murders perhaps? Do we have more sinners in general? Greedier people? More obese people? Less intelligent people?

I'm curious.

Good questions. I'll give a try.

First of all, I have a great deal of respect for Europe culture. Never been to the Scandanavian countries but hear many good things about them.

My high school college social science teachers/professors always said that crime was lower in 'homogenius' societies. (No duckman, that's not what you think). I guess that's the standard mantra for why crime in the U.S. is so much higher than Europe.

Then again thats different in different parts of Europe. You can't get on a bus or train in Italy without someone trying to pick your pocket. One example.

Bible says that things don't exist in a vacuum. One consequence of Europe's modern lifestyle is a low and declining birth rate. As Pat Buchanan points out, the new Muslim immigrants have much higher birth rates and strong extended families. That alone would signal big changes in coming years for you.

In our country we have a similar thing with Mexican immigration, but at least the Mexicans (many being Catholic) have a strong Judeo-Christian heritage that Muslims in Europe would not. That seems to be self-explanitory.

Europe, once the cradle of Christianity, has turned its back on its Christian heritage in large measure. This has created a vacuum. Muslims, many whom believe in being governed by Muslim Sharia law and clergy, are now openly preaching this in European Mosques. PBS has done shows on this.

England seems to be a particular breeding ground for militant Islam. But I do believe that it was in Holland that the movie guy Van Gough (no duckman, not the artist, but a descendent of him) was stalked and killed by a Mulsim extremist for making some film critical of Mohammed. BBC special (think it was) showed that his demise was openly preached in Mosques before it occured.

Seems to be the trend in Europe, all I'm saying. But studying Biblical history shows that often these patterns and trends are a subtle form of God's judgement for not accepting and following His Way.

Think of it this way. You turn your back on God long enough, God may eventually turn His back on you.

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Old 08-31-2006, 05:01 PM   #173
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Old 08-31-2006, 05:13 PM   #174
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Do you really believe that the "Bible" is 100% factual correct?

Yes, but it has to be read in context. Many don't and get all the supposed 'contradictions.'
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Old 08-31-2006, 05:15 PM   #175
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I love the term "Islamo-fascist". It's the new "weblock".
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Old 08-31-2006, 05:26 PM   #176
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I love the term "Islamo-fascist". It's the new "weblock".

Well, from listening to the Frank Beckman show today (gritting my teeth cause you can actually squeeze out a few choice nuggets intermixed with all the stories Frank has about rubbing elbows with C-list types and state politicians during his golf events) some U.S. congressman now wants the term 'Jihadist-terrorists" used because the 'Islamo" tag besmirches the whole of the religion.

One sidenote about talk radio in Detroit these days...good gosh I miss the days of David Newman and Mark Scott. Mitch Album yesterday trying to drum up attention for his new book...appearing at the Fox Theater are 'some really big names' 'can't tell you, can't tell you, alright...actor Hank Azari, Joe Dumars and (some other supposed big-shot, Pee Wee Herman was busy?)

Man are things pathetic around here.

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Old 08-31-2006, 06:04 PM   #177
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Old 08-31-2006, 06:26 PM   #178
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Old 08-31-2006, 06:27 PM   #179
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Old 08-31-2006, 06:27 PM   #180
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You want to know who Bubba is?

He is someone that does not have true faith in things that are unseen. Many are like that. Instead, he puts his faith in only what he can understand or more accurately, be told of. The scripture is not an end but a weapon to be used to justify a worldly means. Clearly his treasure lies in the cult of nationalism and therefore, where his heart lies also. It is not something new for many civilizations had their own cult of nationalism and many use holy writs to justify the cult. In others words, what is written in scriptures and by those within the cult (secular and quasi-religious books) become the twisted means for a more important end. One of the more famous examples of this is the Pharisees of Jesus' time - bound to the laws of man for power, wealth, identity and control. Jesus had more harsh words for this cult than any other subject he spoke of.

What those that are more mature in the faith believe is a higher calling, one that goes beyond man's laws and sinful segregation. Not above the law but not using man's laws as an end. We are called to look upon everyone that God loves (which is, well, everyone) as our brother or sister. We are called to love for it is the job of the Holy Spirit to convict, to nuture, to heal and to help - we are only instruments of the Spirit. We are called to be samaritans, helping those in need - whether it's your neighbor or someone across the world. It doesn't matter where they are from, how they got here, why they are here and how they got to be that way. If your heart does not love, then you do not know God. If your heart lies in the cult of nationalism, then you are confining God and using His words for sinful purposes.
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Old 08-31-2006, 06:30 PM   #181
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The only thing better than old jokes is short jokes.

Actually, that's not too far off. I am descended by quite a few passengers on the Mayflower - particularly the one that was not part of the Leyden community and was only hired to watch over the barrels!
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Old 08-31-2006, 07:12 PM   #182
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Many in our government were indeed communist, VP Henry Wallace being the most prominent. But that's another debate for another time. Read 'Treason' by, of course, Ann Coulter.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Trying to use Ann Coulter as a source for facts.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
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Old 08-31-2006, 07:34 PM   #183
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So is Bubba like the jb magic of political threads? surely if we just ignore them they'll go away... like crabs.
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Old 08-31-2006, 07:47 PM   #184
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Old 08-31-2006, 08:31 PM   #185
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You want to know who Bubba is?

He is someone that does not have true faith in things that are unseen. Many are like that. Instead, he puts his faith in only what he can understand or more accurately, be told of. The scripture is not an end but a weapon to be used to justify a worldly means. Clearly his treasure lies in the cult of nationalism and therefore, where his heart lies also. It is not something new for many civilizations had their own cult of nationalism and many use holy writs to justify the cult. In others words, what is written in scriptures and by those within the cult (secular and quasi-religious books) become the twisted means for a more important end. One of the more famous examples of this is the Pharisees of Jesus' time - bound to the laws of man for power, wealth, identity and control. Jesus had more harsh words for this cult than any other subject he spoke of.

What those that are more mature in the faith believe is a higher calling, one that goes beyond man's laws and sinful segregation. Not above the law but not using man's laws as an end. We are called to look upon everyone that God loves (which is, well, everyone) as our brother or sister. We are called to love for it is the job of the Holy Spirit to convict, to nuture, to heal and to help - we are only instruments of the Spirit. We are called to be samaritans, helping those in need - whether it's your neighbor or someone across the world. It doesn't matter where they are from, how they got here, why they are here and how they got to be that way. If your heart does not love, then you do not know God. If your heart lies in the cult of nationalism, then you are confining God and using His words for sinful purposes.

Well, God will judge me same as he judges you. Cult of nationalism? Nice try...but I suspect when your backyard becomes the issue you'll be the first one posting protest signs in your front yard and picketing city hall. In other words, once your own interests are threatened closer to where you live you'll start reacting.

I've stated numerous times I have no problems with legal immigration. Those of you supporting illegal immigration are a threat to me and mine. One in twelve of these 'illegals' are criminals entering this country with no background checks and possibly hanging out in your neighborhood. Think about that. American citizens who are sex offenders are in an accessable data base you can look at. That illegal may be twice the rapist/murderer and you'd have no idea. Ignoring that doesn't make you Christian, pious or whatever. It just makes you stupid. And a threat to me.

Oh, btw, Scarborough just had video of illegals in California pulling down the American flag and raising the Mexican one over a U.S. post office. Looks like I'm not the only one with the 'cult of nationality' problem. Looks like alot of your buddies the illegals like their own brand of it.

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Old 08-31-2006, 08:33 PM   #186
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Old 08-31-2006, 08:41 PM   #187
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Well, God will judge me same as he judges you.

See, that's part of the problem people have with this. People have several beliefs in how God will judge us, and what God really is (and if he might even exist). However, many people in our country don't go pointing at "outsiders" (people who don't believe what you do) and start calling them names, ect.
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See, that's part of the problem people have with this. People have several beliefs in how God will judge us, and what God really is (and if he might even exist). However, many people in our country don't go pointing at "outsiders" (people who don't believe what you do) and start calling them names, ect.

Hey, idiot, I never said that God doens't love illegal aliens. I just said if they want to be immigrants they should do it legally.

BTW, your toy shop called. Your new dungeons and dragons set is there. What a geek you are. Why am I wasting time here with the likes of you???
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Old 08-31-2006, 08:50 PM   #189
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This thing has now hit clusterf*ck status.
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Old 08-31-2006, 08:51 PM   #190
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Hey, idiot, I never said that God doens't love illegal aliens. I just said if they want to be immigrants they should do it legally.

BTW, your toy shop called. Your new dungeons and dragons set is there. What a geek you are. Why am I wasting time here with the likes of you???

Did I call you anything or attack you in that statement? Also, I never said anything about illegal aliens.

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Old 08-31-2006, 08:52 PM   #191
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Hey, idiot, I never said that God doens't love illegal aliens. I just said if they want to be immigrants they should do it legally.

BTW, your toy shop called. Your new dungeons and dragons set is there. What a geek you are. Why am I wasting time here with the likes of you???

Considering this is a text football sim mesage board, I think geek would be a badge of honour, not an insult.
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American citizens who are sex offenders are in an accessable data base you can look at. That illegal may be twice the rapist/murderer and you'd have no idea.

FYI, the sex offender database isn't filled with "rapists/murderers". A lot of people get caught in that because of petty laws lacking in common sense.
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Not to mention the sex offender database attaches a stigma that really fucks people over and personally goes against the new life/liberty conceit that the American society is supposed to be about.
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Old 08-31-2006, 10:08 PM   #195
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I love how Bubba shifted gears in his own thread once it became clear the facts didn't support his initial hysteria.
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Ok, laying aside the partisan stuff. We are not likely to see a new currency replacing the dollar in our lifetime. But neither are we likely to see a tighter border between the US and Mexico. Other than that, I don't know what all the fuss is about. Free trade is good economic policy for both US and Mexico.

Regional government is not a means to achieve "free trade". But rather "Free trade" is a means to achieve regional government. Doesn't seem logical to create a "north american union" when the economies vary so much.

Oops, just realized this thread has reached "clusterf*ck" status... disregard my post.

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Old 09-01-2006, 04:18 AM   #197
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One in twelve of these 'illegals' are criminals entering this country with no background checks and possibly hanging out in your neighborhood. Think about that.
Actually, about 1 in 9 males in this country will go to prison during their lives, according to the Bureau of Justice Statistics. So 1 in 12 might be an improvement
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Old 09-01-2006, 06:41 AM   #198
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Old 09-01-2006, 07:10 AM   #199
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I love how Bubba shifted gears in his own thread once it became clear the facts didn't support his initial hysteria.

I too noted the self thread jacking to the Thanksgiving topic was a brilliant tactic. It was also, just about the funniest bit in the whole thread. Well maybe not as funny as Sach's continued carping about the lack of the "POL" in the title.
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I too noted the self thread jacking to the Thanksgiving topic was a brilliant tactic. It was also, just about the funniest bit in the whole thread. Well maybe not as funny as Sach's continued carping about the lack of the "POL" in the title.

He's great.. i'm serious here.. anyone asking for his bannination doesn't have a sense of humour.. This board is great because people have so many different opinions.. diversity makes this place fun.. and Bubba is one of those extreme ones who always get my attention
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