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At this point, I think it's almost guaranteed that a lot more people will be disappointed with the ending than will be satisfied with it. It's just been built up too much, and everyone seems to have their own idea as to how the series should end.
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02-24-2010, 03:32 PM | #153 | |
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I didn't like te way the wire ended, I loved how the shield ended but the biggest difference if we saw it coming during two full seasons, we knew something like that would happen, they build it slowly and that's why it was great. Regarding the ending, honestly they didn't show up anything yet. For me this can only lead to great expectations and therefore great disapointment. Let's hope I'm wrong. |
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02-24-2010, 09:19 PM | #156 | |
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May the force be with you! As far as the story goes, nothing to me is indicating anything of God vs Devil play, though they are trying to drop those hints (I believe as Red Herrings). In the end, I think it is more of a scientific, chaos theory abounding throughout. I have nothing to base that on, other than there seems to be so many theological/mythological hints being dropped in that I can see nothing of a true ideology there. Hopefully, I will be surprised by the endgame and say, "Oh, OK. That's cool." I invested too much forum time reading about the show to be blown away by anything since so many different angles have been theorized. I imagine that's what the creators of the show wanted from the beginning, lots and lots of hypothetical situations discussed.
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I feel like there was a good episode in there tonight, but it got edited down and they shaved off about 10-15 vital minutes.
The only thing I think I got out of this one was that Sayid turned heel for the remainder of the series. |
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Sayid has always been a follower.
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03-02-2010, 10:42 PM | #159 |
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I missed something at the end with the Tivo going out. Anyone want to spoil the last five minutes for me, since I can't find it online at the ABC site yet?
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This is good news.
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this season sucks
they spent 5 seasons building up something great with widmore and all that, then in the last episode of the season turned it into jacob vs MIB. then someone in the writers room had the brilliant idea to turn the flashbacks into CoincidenceLand, where absolutely nothing of note happens, except some history is changed and people bump into each other but dont know it. which essentially wastes half of every single episode. i mean, we have 10 episodes left. sayid died and is now bad. claire, the nicest person on the show, is now evil (and horribly, horribly, HORRIBLY unconvincing). jack broke a mirror. jacob, who we didnt even know was real until 5 episodes ago, died. did i miss anything? unless widmore and desmond come back, and maybe eloise, this season is a waste. they shouldve ended it last year. prove me wrong, lost! |
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It gives me hope that the thing Ronnie posted that listed the ratings for the first 9 episodes (only spoilers are episode titles) - Lost Season 6 - Episode Scorecard | Lost Season 6 - has
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In previous seasons, who else did the smoke monster kill? I think it got the original pilot (Matt Parkman from Heroes), Mr. Echo, Keamy (sp?) and his team. I'm trying to think if there is anyone else and what the link could be, or if it is inconsequential now.
Also, I guess it is just Jack and Hurley, and then the group that is with Sun (Frank the pilot, Ilyana?, Ben, and Sun) that are not w/ Smoke Locke now? |
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I have that thought all the time. I think back to the first and second season and think that the writers had no idea where they were headed and it's essentially a new show with similar characters now.
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and where the F is Desmond a.k.a. the most interesting person on the show?
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I can't stand most episodes with Desmond in it.. So glad he's not around. I think so far this season has been ok for me, I don't think it is as bad as some make it out to be, but I still don't really care too much for the sideways arc. I think the one thing missing is one of the things I enjoyed greatly was Ben's character earlier seasons as well as the mystery of the island. I think the more I come to learn about the island, the less mysterious it is and thus the less interesting. Plus there hasn't really been a good replacement for Ben's character since he has become a rather minor role. Still this show is my most anticipated every week, so must be alright in my eyes |
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Something I didn't realize (thanks EW) is that this season's episodes mirrored the first season's episodes as to who was featured. Except for the last episode "Sundown", which in the 1st season featured Sun and Jin and this one was Sayied focused.
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I think both Ben and Desmond's stories have been told, to a large degree.
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Lindelof already said that article was bullshit FWIW.
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On one hand, I pray he's right and it's a smokescreen. On the other, the only hard thing mentioned in the article was the economist Sayid shot on the golf course (and presumably the other X# Ben had Sayid going after), and I really don't see how they can adequately explain who is "good" and who is "bad" - and why - in 12 episodes when there are much bigger issues to wrap up. I was still hoping they at least had it mapped out by early S3 once ABC gave them a deadline, but reading behind the scenes on The Wire even the best shows apparently wait until the last season to figure out the most integral questions.
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My girlfriend and I have both watched this show from day 1, but we've both adopted the "Thank God this show is finally almost over" attitude. A brief exchange we had during the latest episode on Tuesday, which was an election night here in Texas, pretty much sums it up:
Me: "Wow, Perry is killing them." Her: "Huh? I was watching the dog breakdance on the floor." Lost was on, but neither of us was watching it. I was more interested in the primary election results scrolling across the screen, and she was more preoccupied with the dog scratching her butt. Yep, Season 6 of Lost... As someone else mentioned, and I completely agree, and I've had this view for years now - I don't think the writers had any clue what they were doing 3,4,5 years ago - they just threw junk at the wall and hoped something would stick. And now this is the result, just garbage. |
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03-06-2010, 04:04 PM | #178 |
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I am rewatching every season as 6 goes along and frankly I am shocked at the little things mentioned early on that have been brought up so far in the final season. It was far more detailed then I remembered.
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I just wanted to add to the chorus that where this is going does not in any way seem incongruous with the earlier seasons. They crashed on a very special island, which some people have committed themselves to defending. We are learning more about who is defending it, perhaps against what. The battle of good versus evil where the castaways are the pawns.
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About f-ing time. The writers seemed to have forgotten that Michael Emmerson won their show an Emmy last season, not Jack or Kate or any of the others. He has been woefully underused so far. He disappeared in the temple just after talking to Sayid, so I got the sense that he was up to something. I find it hard to believe that Desmond -- who had all that set up in prior seasons with his unique ability to perceive time -- still doesn't have a role to play. My gut tells me that he is the one Jacob was referring to. At some point, the writers have to give me some reason to side with Jacob in all of this. As it stands, he is just a secretive, manipulative, egotistical jackass. At least the MIB gives you some answers from time to time. I was just starting to warm up to Mr. Miyagi. |
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Some interesting things last night.
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I thought the episode was just okay by itself, but when you contrast it with the Sayid episode, the week before, it was really good. Both of their flash sideways storylines had them having to make an ethical choice w/ the results seemingly crossing over to their island storyline. Pretty cool to see that Sayid and Ben have ended up on "teams" that are different than we might have expected.
Looking forward to seeing what Richard can/will reveal. And, also, I had mentioned earlier that I thought that the Kwan on the list was Jin because Jacob had touched him in that wedding scene and, last night, Richard mentioned something about Jacob touching people being a blessing/curse. Also, last night for a moment, for the first time I had the thought that the Locke in the flash sideways was Smokey, as he seemed to be pushing Ben in a certain direction. Probably nothing, but maybe something to keep an eye on. |
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the sideways stories are basically coincidenceland right now to me. still feels like we are wasting 30 minutes where we could be doing more.
but i enjoyed bens episode. i definitely miss him being in control though. i mean, even when the crap was being beaten out of him in previous episodes, he still seemed in control. he seemed weak last night when anne newcia (no idea what her name is) tied him up to dig his grave. |
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I liked the last episode a little better than the others, and oddly enough I thought the very last scene was the most effective-the various survivors and Jacob allies hugging in the center with Richard and a very vulnerable Ben on the outskirts. You could tell Ben just wanted to go up to them and get hugged-he is such a good actor. And then of course there was the periscope...
I like the setup of the two sides and the likely battle that will ensue. But for the love of God, can you finally have Kate decide to go one way or the other and stay that way? |
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I'm surprised that people are so down on Kate for this reason. I think that the gathering of sides is essentially what this season is about and that she is, and has been, somewhat of a wildcard all along. In the end, I expect her to go with Jack (she had the quote that, "I have always been with you" or something like that, last season, when he asked if she had his back), unless Jack makes a decision against it. |
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I think Kate is just going along with them because everyone else is dead, when she sees Jack she'll be on his side.
The real question is what side is Widmore really on? I think he's going to the hydra station to fight on Jacob's side but not sure. Hopefully they explore that more next episode instead of doing the usual tease then skipping an episode (think MIB dragging Richard off and not seeing anything the next week) |
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Apparently the March 23rd and May 4th episodes answer a majority of the remaining questions.
I know the 23rd episode is the one people are on pins and needles waiting for because of who it is about. Spoiler below for who it is about.
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Seems like people like the first batch of spoilered episode grades, so here are the rest through 6.16.
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Redeemed Ben is a big snooze.
Who is the villian now? I think that I am supposed to believe that Locke is the bad guy because he just killed everyone in the temple. Other than Dogen to a very modest extent, I didn't give half a turd about anyone in the temple. To be honest, if I was faced with the choice of Locke and Jacob right now, I'd go with Locke. They're both a-holes, but at least Locke gives you a little information every now and then. I was hoping that this episode would show Ben crafting up another Machiavellian scheme, but he went soft on us, and I think it is for real. In my opinion, shows like this work best when there is a well-defined heel. Ben was absolutely outstanding in that role. Now there is no discernable bad guy. Absent that, who am I supposed to be rooting for? I find this all a little unsatisfying. |
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The show is really losing me. I didn't mind the Kate episode that everyone seemed to hate, but this one was just painful to watch. The alternative storyline is just awful now. It was fine at first, how the characters casually bumped into each other at the airport or shortly after leaving.
But MIles and Sawyer are detectives and partners!? .......whatever. |
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