Homeland Season 1 (Spoilers)

[Toddzilla]

Nee-co-lass

[Jas_lov]

Originally Posted by stevew

Ok...that whole part where Carrie was getting the business end of Brody while they were talking about her methods and such.

That was hilarious. Saul gives a face palm and then tells Quinn, "She's turning it around." LOL. This back and forth loyalty by Brody should be interesting. They've cut off his lifeline to the CIA so I wonder if they'll make him commit an immediate attack to test him.

[stevew]

I'm not sure about this show anymore. Glad Mrs. Brody is back now(hello). Spec Ops guy is fairly intriguing I guess. It would be great if all the Nazir stuff ends this year, I'm kind of over him by now.

[Jas_lov]

I like the new Quinn development. Adds something interesting like who is he working for and what reason does he have to kill Brody. Quinn stabbing Brody in the hand makes more sense now since we know he's not CIA.

[stevew]

I was thinking and I wonder if Brody is actually on the up and up about the plan. Like maybe this was just a diversion attack conceived by Nazir and now that Brody is in the good graces, a real attack will proceed.

[larrymcg421]

Originally Posted by stevew

I was thinking and I wonder if Brody is actually on the up and up about the plan. Like maybe this was just a diversion attack conceived by Nazir and now that Brody is in the good graces, a real attack will proceed.

This is very possible. Note that he did not tell them about praying with Nazir.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by Jas_lov

I like the new Quinn development. Adds something interesting like who is he working for and what reason does he have to kill Brody. Quinn stabbing Brody in the hand makes more sense now since we know he's not CIA.

He's CIA - he's just...uber Black Ops CIA I think.

[DanGarion]

Originally Posted by Jas_lov

I like the new Quinn development. Adds something interesting like who is he working for and what reason does he have to kill Brody. Quinn stabbing Brody in the hand makes more sense now since we know he's not CIA.

Oh he's still CIA, he's just deep undercover.

[stevew]

Poor Walden.

[RainMaker]

Watched last weeks (welcome back Mrs. Brody's breasts) and this weeks epsiode. Like the Quinn twist as well. I'm so hooked on this show it's not even funny. I just have no idea how they can possibly keep this pace going for more seasons.

[stevew]

Ok...not really poor Walden

The Carrie/Nazir thing was a bit too cliched. His lines were garbage and it was written in the voice of how some right wing wingnut thinks the Muslims think.


Brody vs Walden was fuckin excellent.

I'm guessing they are swerving Saul as the mole and also Galvez as the Mole.

[Jas_lov]

Another intense episode. Still not sure how they keep Brody in the mix after this. Carrie knows he helped to kill Walden unless she doesn't tell anyone for some reason. I don't know why Saul and Estes even bother to give Carrie orders anymore, she defies every single one.

[Simbo Klice]

"You still don't get it, do you?...... I'm killing you." The guy playing Brody is god-damn amazing.

[larrymcg421]

If Saul is the mole, I stop watching the show immediately. It doesn't make any sense and destroys one of the most interesting characters on the show for nothing more than cheap shock value.

[Logan]

Saul's not the mole.

[stevew]

What were those codes that Brody stole in the earlier part of the season.

[stevew]

Ok-

Are we sure Brody is even 35? Seems like he's barely that old. Anyways, just wondering about if he can even be VP.

And fuck it, if we're going for it, I wanna see President Brody. Why not.

[Logan]

Surprisingly, I thought plot-wise this episode really struggled. From everything with the VP to Abu Nazir kidnapping Carrie, it was painful to watch which was a first for me with this show.

[panerd]

Originally Posted by Logan

Surprisingly, I thought plot-wise this episode really struggled. From everything with the VP to Abu Nazir kidnapping Carrie, it was painful to watch which was a first for me with this show.

Yeah the VP pacemaker thing seemed like something out of '24'. I enjoyed '24' also but this show seemed to be a different type of show. The Nazir stuff was ok and next week they may end up with a pretty good explanation but I seriously doubt he would have just let Carrie go without some plan set in place.

[DanGarion]

Originally Posted by Logan

Surprisingly, I thought plot-wise this episode really struggled. From everything with the VP to Abu Nazir kidnapping Carrie, it was painful to watch which was a first for me with this show.

I completely agree I did much eye rolling this episode.

[Toddzilla]

She was likely unconscious for a bit after the crash and during transport to the abandoned warehouse, so who know what he slipped in/on her

[DanGarion]

Originally Posted by Toddzilla

She was likely unconscious for a bit after the crash and during transport to the abandoned warehouse, so who know what he slipped in/on her

"We've traced the call Carrie, it's coming from inside you!"

[Logan]

Originally Posted by DanGarion

I completely agree I did much eye rolling this episode.

I have confidence that the writers will end up making it okay and not going down a road where everything strains credibility only to advance the plot, as they have done a good job with that recently when it gets a little shaky (having the hit and run storyline turn into Brody going through another of his internal struggles instead of something even crazier).

[mckerney]

Nazir had something like 3 different cell phones while in the warehouse, maybe that's now he's not getting traced.

[stevew]

I thought it was funny that Nazir was using an iPhone 5 but Brody was on a shitty 4 year old blackberry. It's possible that is congressionally issued I guess.

[Logan]

Originally Posted by stevew

I thought it was funny that Nazir was using an iPhone 5 but Brody was on a shitty 4 year old blackberry. It's possible that is congressionally issued I guess.

CIA issued, Carrie gave it to him a couple episodes ago once they were tapping his phone (which they apparently weren't in this last episode). "New phone, same number" is what she told him.

[mckerney]

Originally Posted by stevew

I thought it was funny that Nazir was using an iPhone 5 but Brody was on a shitty 4 year old blackberry. It's possible that is congressionally issued I guess.

He also had a couple android phones.

[DanGarion]

I loved that Nazir doesn't know how to use his phone, he manually typed back in the serial number, doesn't he know you can just forward text messages?!?!?!

[flounder]

Doesn't he know Apple can track your location with an iPhone?

[stevew]

Interesting conclusion. I wonder where they go from here.

[stevew]

That whole bit "do your colleagues call you the bear" "they better fuckin not" was 100% pure gold.

[Jas_lov]

I would kill Brody off and reset. Nazir is dead so what else is there to do with his character, unless he becomes the new Nazir. As lon as they dont get rid of Saul.

[DaddyTorgo]

Silly me - didn't watch last night because it was getting late, and forgot the Pats were on tonight. Hopefully I'll be able to sneak it in before kickoff!

[Logan]

I was of the opinion that they did the right thing in keeping Brody alive last season, and felt vindicated as the first half of this season took place. The last few episodes though really have made me reconsider. The love story angle between Brody and Carrie worked during S1 because you still didn't know what Brody's intentions were, or who was playing who. That's gone now and it just feels like any other show that forces the guy and girl into a relationship, albeit here with two characters we love.

It's not to say I think a Brody-less S2 would be any better than what we got now, but I think unless something really crazy happens next week (which I don't see happening) I'll be left wishing S1 ended with damn near perfection.

[Jas_lov]

They've made Carrie and Brody the most unlikeable characters on the show so that's why one of them needs to be killed off. I'm more interested in Saul and Quinn than the Carrie/Brody love story that already took place in Season 1. The marriage with Jessica is over, Nazir is dead, there is no use for Brody anymore. Next season can be about Carrie getting over Brody's death, Saul/Estes power struggle and a new terror threat.

[stevew]

I like the theory that Brody is still playing Carrie. It will possibly be revealed that Nazir had a terminal condition anyways and now Brody got to kill the VP without punishment.

[stevew]

I also wonder if Estes going out on a date with Roya will play at all.

[mckerney]

[RainMaker]

I think the one mistake the show made was keeping Brody around so long. It feels forced when the shows focus should be the CIA/terrorism and the players around it are all disposable. Bring in good actors for 1-2 season arcs, but it's gotten a bit unrealistic.

[digamma]

I almost lost it when Brody went all Karate Kid/Glory of Love at the end of the episode. The only saving grace would be if he is turning on her.

At least there is Saul.

And yes, the suspension of disbelief over the last two episodes has been a huge ask.

[panerd]

Originally Posted by stevew

That whole bit "do your colleagues call you the bear" "they better fuckin not" was 100% pure gold.

Yes that was classic.

[BigPapi]

I don't really see how this ends any other way except Carrie or Quinn killing Brodie when it's revealed he's a triple agent still operating for Nazir. This would explain some of the odd plot twists lately- like why Nazir let Brodie live- and then Carrie- when he had her in his crosshairs.... twice.

The last episode ended with Quinn outside the house- I'm betting Brodie turns on Carrie and before he can finish the job Quinn ices him leaving Carrie in hysterics and the show in limbo just like last year....They can reboot almost anywhere from there.

Not sure how the Saul thing will play out- guess we'll see next week.

[stevew]

Every line Chris Brody gets is money.

[chinaski]

Finally finished season 1. Really like the series, much more than I thought I would.

[stevew]

Brody was obviously playing her...right? Estes got what was coming to him.

[mckerney]

Starlee Kine ‏@StarleeKine
Can someone PLEASE explain to me why on Homeland the President is treated like Vera on Cheers?

[Jas_lov]

It's possible Brody was set up. If he was behind it then who leaked his confession tape and why? Carrie had to convince everyone that Brody was guilty and now she has to convince everyone that he is innocent. Considering I didn't think they'd be able to keep Brody alive and continue the quality of the show it was a pretty good finale the way they handled it.

[Noop]

I think Saul is the mole. He fought to get Brody saved. He was not at the memorial. He is jewish (which would make him working with muslim extremism all the more interest). It is Saul.

If it is not Saul then it has to be Brody because it would show just how good he is at lying.

[stevew]

My guess is that it is a previously unseen person. While there was certainly enough editing to suggest Saul was the mole last night (Keyser Soze-esque IMO), I think this will be a focus of season 3.

[Logan]

Originally Posted by Logan

Saul's not the mole.

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