2014 NFL Regular Season, Week 17

[NobodyHere]

What was Dalton thinking?

[BillJasper]

Dalton choking under the bright lights again.

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by cartman

The Eagles did that against a team on 3 and a half days rest. Look what happened when the Cowboys had a week and a half to prep for the game against the Eagles.

Look at how bad the Cowboys offense was against the Cardinals to show how much Romo means to it.

Those extra 5 hours "rest" the Eagles had did all that? Wow, talk about one really poor excuse.

The point was what did Romo do when Murray was shut down? Nothing.

[BillJasper]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

Those extra 5 hours "rest" the Eagles had did all that? Wow, talk about one really poor excuse.

The point was what did Romo do when Murray was shut down? Nothing.

Romo threw 208 TD passes to 101 INT with a 95.8 rating completing nearly 65% of his passes prior to 2014.

Tony Romo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Romo was already good, having a running game just makes him more effective. And everyone has a bad game.

[cartman]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

Those extra 5 hours "rest" the Eagles had did all that? Wow, talk about one really poor excuse.

The point was what did Romo do when Murray was shut down? Nothing.

I think the lack of rest while still recovering from the broken bones in his back might have had at least a part of the reason.

[BillJasper]

I'd like to see a show of hands of people who think that Murray would've led the league in rushing and the Cowboys would be in the playoffs if they had Brandon Weeden as their starting QB for the entire year.

Bueller?

[MizzouRah]

Originally Posted by Galaril

Fisher is a very good coach and has you a beast mode defense for years to come. All your guys need is a QB.

QFT

[BillJasper]

I'd say you need an offensive coordinator as well and possibly a head coach.

[Butter]

Steeler fans booing hard hits on their offensive players is hilarious irony.

[NobodyHere]

Originally Posted by stevew

Dalolton

+1

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

Steeler fans booing hard hits on their offensive players is hilarious irony.

Right?

[Butter]

I know Big Ben has this reputation as hard to bring down, but the Bengals refusal to blitz ever is ridiculous. Here comes the half closing touchdown to put the game away.

[BillJasper]

Shouldn't the clock have stopped since Bernard didn't go down until he was out of bounds?

[MizzouRah]

Originally Posted by BillJasper

I'd say you need an offensive coordinator as well and possibly a head coach.

No.. honestly, we need a QB. Hill's crappy throws, fumbles, INT's cost us so many games, including today. There is only so much you can do with him as your starting QB.

[ISiddiqui]

Originally Posted by Solecismic

Until last season, Ryan was building an incredible number of regular-season wins.

Playoffs are hard to control. Until David Tyree did his My Sharona of the NFL thing, Tom Brady was Montana-ish in his playoff record. Since then, he's been pedestrian. What changed?

It's hard to separate performances in football, but I've heard enough praise of Ryan and his stats are good. I don't think the problem in Atlanta is at quarterback.

Agreed with all of this. I don't think its Ryan or Smith really that is the ultimate problems, but if Smith is collateral damage with Dimitroff, I'm fine with that. I think Ryan is good, but is being asked to do way too much.

[Abe Sargent]

Well that game just ended in an un-appealing manner

[Butter]

Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

Well that game just ended in an un-appealing manner

Unappealing but not unexpected. I've rarely seen a team with such a knack for game killing turnovers as this one. Well, they get another shot at winning in Indy, so we will see what they do with it... But who are we kidding, they'll lose by 20.

[Abe Sargent]

True true

[StLee]

Antonio Brown's TD just put $100 more in my pocket than I thought I was going to have just a few minutes before it happened.

[stevew]

I'm amazed that Pitts threw for nearly 5000 yards this year. Seems like 2 seasons worth of output.

Also 0 issue if we sign Ray Rice due to Bell not being able to play. I assume he's in game shape.

[stevew]

Dola

Jeremy Hill is a monster and while I understand that he had a few issues, he should have gone pretty early in the draft.

[tucker rocky]

ARZ vs CAR-
Cardinals, no QB.
Carolina, which team shows up?

DET vs DAL-
A shootout is very possible. Home game for Dallas though, 50/50 chance of winning. Lions number 1 against the run, Dallas will attack through the air often.
As a side note, Lions last playoff win came in 1991, against Dallas.

BALT vs PIT-
Playoff game between two divisional opponents, it'll be ugly, nasty, and very physical. Running game is now a question mark for Pittsburgh, with Bell's injury.
Ravens have not looked sharp the last 2 games.

CIN vs IND-
Bengals haven't won a playoff game since 1990. Colts lack a running game for balance. Both teams have shown to be inconsistent.

[Brian Swartz]

DET vs DAL-
A shootout is very possible. Home game for Dallas though, 50/50 chance of winning. Lions number 1 against the run, Dallas will attack through the air often.
As a side note, Lions last playoff win came in 1991, against Dallas.

Barry Sanders isn't walking through that door. As a Lions fan I'd give Dallas a 70% shot. Total number of road playoff wins for Detroit? Zero. That's the same number of road wins(0-4) they have against this year's playoff teams. I believe that's what is known as a trend .

[Julio Riddols]

Cincinnati has a chance to run somewhat of a revenge gauntlet. Indy first, then if they win that and Pittsburgh wins they would go to New England right? After that if they get another shot at Pittsburgh in the AFCCG..

I'll put the pipe down now.

[Desnudo]

Originally Posted by stevew

I'm amazed that Pitts threw for nearly 5000 yards this year. Seems like 2 seasons worth of output.

Also 0 issue if we sign Ray Rice due to Bell not being able to play. I assume he's in game shape.

He'll probably be punching above his weight with all the time off

[MizzouRah]

Originally Posted by stevew

I'm amazed that Pitts threw for nearly 5000 yards this year. Seems like 2 seasons worth of output.

Also 0 issue if we sign Ray Rice due to Bell not being able to play. I assume he's in game shape.

What a story that would be... Rice signs with Steelers, faces former team in playoff battle.

[molson]

Originally Posted by Brian Swartz

Total number of road playoff wins for Detroit? Zero.

I don't mean to rub it in, but as someone who has never paid too much attention to the Lions, scanning their season-by-season franchise history is morbidly fascinating. It just doesn't seem possible.

List of Detroit Lions seasons - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

But that also puts into perspective how really, really historically good their season was this year. It's only the second time they've had 11 or more wins since 1962. 1962!

[Matthean]

Originally Posted by molson

But that also puts into perspective how really, really historically good their season was this year. It's only the second time they've had 11 or more wins since 1962. 1962!

And yet so many fans knew they weren't winning that game and likely will be one and done in the playoffs.

[Danny]

Did I read correctly that they have one playoff win since 1957?

[SackAttack]

Originally Posted by Danny

Did I read correctly that they have one playoff win since 1957?

It came in their only other 11+ win season since 1962!

[molson]

Originally Posted by Danny

Did I read correctly that they have one playoff win since 1957?

That is correct.

It's also crazy to think, looking at that, that Barry Sanders walked away in 1999, apparently because of the "culture of losing" in Detroit. When those 8 years before he left were easily the high point in the last 55 or 60 years for that franchise.

[SackAttack]

Originally Posted by Matthean

And yet so many fans knew they weren't winning that game and likely will be one and done in the playoffs.

I dunno. They're playing the Cowboys. A steady diet of 1991 highlights could get them up.

OTOH, that's also the last time they won in Lambeau...

[JeeberD]

Originally Posted by cartman

I think the lack of rest while still recovering from the broken bones in his back might have had at least a part of the reason.

As well as the insane decision for him to not be given a painkiller before that game.

[Matthean]

Originally Posted by SackAttack

I dunno. They're playing the Cowboys. A steady diet of 1991 highlights could get them up.

OTOH, that's also the last time they won in Lambeau...

Well, Suh might not be playing. The Packers ran on that vaunted run defense. Oh, and Stafford is involved.

[Arles]

Schefter just reported that Suh is being suspended for a game. Not sure how I feel about it. As a Packer fan, I think Suh is dirty and probably did it on purpose, but the video isn't super conclusive that he did. I would have been OK with a hefty fine. That said, Suh's history probably played a role here. If it were someone else, I doubt they would have been suspended.

[kingfc22]

Originally Posted by Matthean

Well, Suh might not be playing. The Packers ran on that vaunted run defense. Oh, and Stafford is involved.

Stafford now 0-17 on the road against winning teams for his career.

Seems like he is due for a win.

[Matthean]

Originally Posted by kingfc22

Stafford now 0-17 on the road against winning teams for his career.

Seems like he is due for a win.

The Lions are also due for a Super Bowl.

[kingfc22]

Originally Posted by Arles

Schefter just reported that Suh is being suspended for a game. Not sure how I feel about it. As a Packer fan, I think Suh is dirty and probably did it on purpose, but the video isn't super conclusive that he did. I would have been OK with a hefty fine. That said, Suh's history probably played a role here. If it were someone else, I doubt they would have been suspended.

I'd agree that his history played the biggest role in this particular situation.

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by Arles

Schefter just reported that Suh is being suspended for a game. Not sure how I feel about it. As a Packer fan, I think Suh is dirty and probably did it on purpose, but the video isn't super conclusive that he did. I would have been OK with a hefty fine. That said, Suh's history probably played a role here. If it were someone else, I doubt they would have been suspended.

So if Detroit loses this week, his last moment as a Lion (he's not under contract for next year right?) is trying to injure Rodgers ankle-nice thing to bring into free agency-letting your team down when they needed you most.

[flere-imsaho]

Someone will still pay big money for him. NFL executives are easily convinced that they'll be the ones to reform big-talent bad boys and turn them into worldbeaters, despite the evidence.

[Buccaneer]

For the same reason nfl executives will throws millions at the likes of Clowney, manziel and Gilbert.

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by Arles

Schefter just reported that Suh is being suspended for a game. Not sure how I feel about it. As a Packer fan, I think Suh is dirty and probably did it on purpose, but the video isn't super conclusive that he did. I would have been OK with a hefty fine. That said, Suh's history probably played a role here. If it were someone else, I doubt they would have been suspended.

He steps on him once, ok. Could be a mistake. The 2nd step he purposely takes his other foot off the ground to drive more weight into the calf and that was the step that Aaron Rodgers reacted to. I don't think there's any doubt it was done on purpose. I agree, someone that doesn't have Suh's history likely gets the benefit of the doubt and a huge fine. Suh is at the point where he's left the league no choice but to continue to suspend him until he gets the message.

[MizzouRah]

Originally Posted by Atocep

He steps on him once, ok. Could be a mistake. The 2nd step he purposely takes his other foot off the ground to drive more weight into the calf and that was the step that Aaron Rodgers reacted to. I don't think there's any doubt it was done on purpose. I agree, someone that doesn't have Suh's history likely gets the benefit of the doubt and a huge fine. Suh is at the point where he's left the league no choice but to continue to suspend him until he gets the message.

Apparently the message isn't sinking in.

[Solecismic]

Originally Posted by Arles

Schefter just reported that Suh is being suspended for a game. Not sure how I feel about it. As a Packer fan, I think Suh is dirty and probably did it on purpose, but the video isn't super conclusive that he did. I would have been OK with a hefty fine. That said, Suh's history probably played a role here. If it were someone else, I doubt they would have been suspended.

I'm not a Packer fan, but, Suh or no Suh, that seemed intentional. They keep showing it in slo-mo. What convinced me was the live look. It was an unnatural step back. Rodgers knew it immediately. Anyone who has been out there surely knows you get accidentally bumped all the time when players are getting up or finishing a play. Rodgers isn't a hot-head who doesn't get that.

Suh deserves more than a game, but since it's a playoff game, that's a strong message. Coming off the Raiola crap, it's something Caldwell has to address next season. There's no reason to play that way.

[kingfc22]

Originally Posted by MizzouRah

Apparently the message isn't sinking in.

Stupid is as stupid does.

[Dutch]

Originally Posted by Solecismic

I'm not a Packer fan, but, Suh or no Suh, that seemed intentional. They keep showing it in slo-mo. What convinced me was the live look. It was an unnatural step back. Rodgers knew it immediately. Anyone who has been out there surely knows you get accidentally bumped all the time when players are getting up or finishing a play. Rodgers isn't a hot-head who doesn't get that.

Suh deserves more than a game, but since it's a playoff game, that's a strong message. Coming off the Raiola crap, it's something Caldwell has to address next season. There's no reason to play that way.

He does it because 1.) He's a asshole, 2.) He's given tons of leniency to do it and 3.) The NFL has practically banned all normal attempts to dish out pain and let's face it, these boys want to dish out some pain every once in a while, it's in their football blood.

[Solecismic]

Over the course of a season, clean players dish out plenty of pain. I'm sure the average NFL player takes a couple of hits every week that would have a normal person lying on the ground for an hour, wondering how anyone can take that kind of a beating for a living.

[Brian Swartz]

Originally Posted by Molson

I don't mean to rub it in, but as someone who has never paid too much attention to the Lions, scanning their season-by-season franchise history is morbidly fascinating. It just doesn't seem possible.

You're absolutely correct on this. It's something we(well at least I) laugh about. I believe they are 1-10 in the Super Bowl Era(playoffs). Nobody is even close to the level of consistent fail shown by the Lions.

[Julio Riddols]

Dan Snyder is about to jizz in his pants thinking about getting Suh signed.

[BillJasper]

Originally Posted by Julio Riddols

Dan Snyder is about to jizz in his pants thinking about getting Suh signed.

One would hope he learned from the Albert Haynesworth debacle. But it's doubtful.