Werewolf XCVI: The Dark One and The Order of Righteousness (GAME OVER EVIL WINS)

[path12]

Dola, the only other person I'd consider for a lynch today would be SnDvls.

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

I think finding out about USFL gives us info about lerriuqs

I think you and path are probably right about this, and USFL's switch after Martin's reveal sort of made sense, but also gave me that tingly feeling.

VOTE LYNCH USFL

[The Jackal]

path - why not USFL? just curious, i could be persuaded to switch to lerriuqs, and definitely to SND

[RendeR]

My apologies for showing up and bitching at someone but I'm entirely too cranky right now and I'm dealing with two obnoxiousntoddlers and over excited puppy on top of reading utterly unsubstntiatied shyte from other players.


*grump*

[path12]

Originally Posted by RendeR

I tried to clarify the attitude change to everyone early on in the game but apparently not everyone reads around here. I've grown tired of being the angry bear and I've stepped down my overall play style to help avoid unnecessary blow ups like I've had inthe past.

if you don;t like that so fucking BE IT.

*whispers in RendeR's ear* C'mon......blow up.......you know you want to.....

[Abe Sargent]

Originally Posted by MartinD

See my post above - my role is effectively 'brutal villager', in that I can select a player to kill off if I am lynched or night-killed.

As I said above, there's no way I can prove that I'm being honest about this short of getting myself killed, so you need to decide if I'm telling the truth on this one.

I think it is convenient that you role-revealed as a role that would likely hurt the village if you were killed off, as opposed to not helping or hurting us. I'm not saying ou are a wolf, vote you now, just that it seems awfully convenient.

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

path - why not USFL? just curious, i could be persuaded to switch to lerriuqs, and definitely to SND

I see that you said the target should be one of USFL or lerriuqs earlier, but after voting for lerriuqs you say you'd only switch to SND, just curious

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by path12

*whispers in RendeR's ear* C'mon......blow up.......you know you want to.....

Asshat

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

I think it is convenient that you role-revealed as a role that would likely hurt the village if you were killed off, as opposed to not helping or hurting us. I'm not saying ou are a wolf, vote you now, just that it seems awfully convenient.

+1, fwiw

[path12]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

path - why not USFL? just curious, i could be persuaded to switch to lerriuqs, and definitely to SND

Two reasons, either of which may be wrong so feel free to correct me:

--I think USFL is a newer player. Given the choice I'd rather lynch the more experienced one.

--squirrel made the switch. (well, OK, that one might not be wrong).

As for SnDvls, he is the vet that I get the worst vibe from.

[The Jackal]

RendeR - 2 (SND 1983, USFL 1992)
USFL - 2 (Martin 2000, Jackal 2002)
lerriuqs - 1 (path 1998)

yet to vote - lerriuqs, Abe, RendeR

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by path12

Two reasons, either of which may be wrong so feel free to correct me:

--I think USFL is a newer player. Given the choice I'd rather lynch the more experienced one.

--squirrel made the switch. (well, OK, that one might not be wrong).

As for SnDvls, he is the vet that I get the worst vibe from.

I might be confusing him with someone else, but didnt USFL come from another site where he had played before? Don't really think I'll be basing a vote on that kind of info, though.

And yes, I agree with you on SND.

[The Jackal]

I'll be back a little later, probably having dinner soon.

[path12]

UNVOTE LYNCH LERRIUQS
VOTE LYNCH USFLTECMO

Six of one, half dozen the other.

[path12]

Abe, would you consider a SnDvls switch?

[Abe Sargent]

Players:


2. lerriuqs
3. USFLTechmo
4. Abe - cleared by seer and King, role known and confirmed by King
5. MartinD - Claims Brutal Villager
9. The Jackal
13. SnDvls
14. RendeR
19. path12 - scanned clear by seer



Let's start working this

Let's assume, right now, MartinD gets a one day pass.

That leaves:

lerriuqs
USFL
The Jackal
RendeR
SnDvls

Now, remove yourself from the equation.

Not a large group to hide a wolf or two. Here wolfy wolfy.


I'm not inclined to vote RendeR right now.

That leaves, for my purposes, SnDvls, Jackal, USFL, and lerriuqs.

I am not willing to give lerriuqs slack simply because he changed his vote last minute onto a villager. However, others are, so without being able to gain momentum there...

I look here: SnDvls, The Jackal, USFLTecmo

Is there a change lerriuqs is a wolf? Sure. Is there a chance MartinD is a wolf? Sure. Is there a chance RendeR is a wolf? Sure. But their play suggest to me that all of the remaining wolves cannot be found in that group of three. At least one is in the SnDvls, Jackal, USFL group I think, and perhaps two.

Therefore, I will not be voting outside that group today.

It seems like SnDvls and Jackal and USFL have each gone under the radar. Can someone give us vote analysis for them over the course of the game?

[MartinD]

Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

I think it is convenient that you role-revealed as a role that would likely hurt the village if you were killed off, as opposed to not helping or hurting us. I'm not saying ou are a wolf, vote you now, just that it seems awfully convenient.

That's a reasonable opinion to have at this point, but I stand by the role I have revealed, and know that I'll be proved right when I either get lynched or night-killed, or we reach the end of the game.

[USFLTecmo]

I'm pretty sure I'm in the running tonight, I just wish I knew against who. I'm leaving within the next hour, and I'd hate to waste my vote.

[SnDvls]

Originally Posted by RendeR

A- I've mentioned you once, today, the rest of the game I haven't even considered you other than to respond to things others have said.

B- Your gut has led you...where? thus far in the game?

C- I'd rather not bring it up but since I'm getting votes I'd like to remind folks that I was at least semi-trusted by CR who tends to read my play entirely too well for my own liking. Beyond that all i can say is that I'm a vanilla villager. its not like I can whip up some fake reveal at this point, all the real roles are dead.

D- you've come out in posts at least twice now stating that you dislike something about how I'm playing or that I've been quieter than normal and not causing problems. I tried to clarify the attitude change to everyone early on in the game but apparently not everyone reads around here. I've grown tired of being the angry bear and I've stepped down my overall play style to help avoid unnecessary blow ups like I've had inthe past.

if you don;t like that so fucking BE IT.

a- you mentioned me yesterday too when I put my name in blue (I'll pull the post if you want)

b- the same place everyone else's gut has led them

c - CR had me in the same boat as you.

d- this is post #2 about you now....again I say prove it.. I don't need to curse to prove my point and a WW game shouldn't get you bent out of shape so just calm down. I didn't say you were being quiet or dislike how you were playing...I said I had a vibe...could it be wrong, yup, could it be right, yup. Show me where I say I don't like how you are playing? Everyone has their own style...hey I'm a quiet player too, always have been always will be...Autumn even called me out on it and I stated it then.

I've not encouraged anyone to vote for you or campainged against you so I'm not sure where you are coming from, but oh well.

[The Jackal]

Quoted from SND:

Originally Posted by SnDvls

Final Day 1 Vote Count:

Pass Jail - 10 - Clap (222), USFL (253), MartinD (261), Hoops (300), path12 (344), Tyrith (366), lerriuqs (372), Pass (380), Jackal (383), BK
(395) BK Jail - 8 - Lathum (177), Render (210), SnDvLs (233), DT (235), saldana (278), CR (295), Danny (349), Kwhit (369)
KWhit Jail - 2 - Autumn (254), Telle (320)
KWhit Lynch - 1 - Schmidty (298)

Day 2 Final Vote Count:

Abe/Clap Jail - 5 - USFL (528), Telle (618), DT (624), CR (626), KWhit
(666) BK Jail - 4 - Lathum (497), MartinD (527), Sndvls (532), lerriuqs (547)
Abe/Clap Lynch - 3 - Saldana (503), The Jackal (560), BK (698)
Pass Jail - 3 - Tyrith (718), Autumn (770), RendeR (783)
USFL Lynch - 2 - Path (557), Schmidty (558)
KWhit Lynch - 1 - Clap (656)
Telle Jail - 1 - Danny (736)

Final Day 3 Vote Count:

Abe Jail - 6 - RendeR (1056), CR (1060), Jackal (1063), lerriuqs (1065), KWhit (1095), DT (1168)
Abe Lynch - 4 - Path (1042), Martin (1045), USFLTecmo (1074), BK (1108)
Autumn Lynch - 4 - SnDvls (1050), Lathum (1077), Saldana (1178), Pass
(1194) DaddyTorgo Jail - 3 - Autumn (1087), Abe (1112), Telle (1126)


Day 4 Final Vote Count:

KWhit Lynch - 14 - Lathum (1258), Pass (1321), Autumn (1323), Lerriuqs (1326), SnDvls (1328), Path (1338), CR (1342), USFL (1350), Saldana (1359), Jackal (1377), Telle (1382), Barkeep (1397), MartinD (1435), RendeR (1440)

Lathum Lynch - 1- KWhit (1380)

Day 5 Final Vote Count:

Lathum Lynch - 11 - Jackal (1510), Autumn (1514), USFL (1526), BK (1546), MartinD (1602), Path (1608), Abe (1614), Saldana (1649), RendeR (1676), Leriuqs (1682), CR (1685),

Lathun Jail - 1 - SnDvls (1565),

Barkeep49 Jail - 1 - Pass (1607)

Did Not Vote: Lathum



Day 6 Final Vote Count:

Saldana Lynch - 11 - USFL (1755), Abe (1756), CR (1757), Lerriuqs (1758), Jackal (1759), Autumn (1761),SnDvls (1762), MartinD (1763), RendeR (1767), BK (1768), Path (1772)

Failed to Vote: Saldana


Day 7 Final Vote Count:

Barkeep Lynch - 6 - SnDvls (1842), MartinD (1866), USFLTecmo (1867), Path12 (1883), Autumn (1900), Lerriuqs (1921)

USFLTecmo Lynch - 4 - RendeR (1874), Abe Sargent (1882), The Jackal (1895), Barkeep (1899)

[The Jackal]

There's something to start with, didn't have time to color in all known good guys or what not, now I'm off to eat.

[Abe Sargent]

Actually, hold up. MartinD may have just given us our answer.

[Abe Sargent]

MATH HURTS MY HEAD:


Assume worst case scenario, two wolves left.


Assume we miss today. Tonight death of me or path.

Tomorrow, odds are 4:2. One cleared player. 40% chance of killing a wolf. Failure to do so means game over, because the night kill ends the game.



However, assume that we kill THREE players today.

That means tomorrow we have 5 players left and one cleared in that lot. Gives us a 50% chance of finding a wolf tomorrow.

Killing MartinD tonight:

If he's lying and a wolf - YAY!

If he's telling the truth - still get another free chance at a wolf without them able to manipulate the vote. One free swipe. If that hits - YAY.

If it misses, we STILL have better odds to hit a wolf the following day than we would have had otherwise because the wolves have to kill a trusted player tonight.


In other words, we have to vote for MartinD today.


Vote MartinD Lynch


MartinD, I hope you understand my math and logic. If you are telling the truth, send in a good order, Good luck!

[Abe Sargent]

This is crazy, but I think it totally works.

[path12]

Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

I look here: SnDvls, The Jackal, USFLTecmo

Is there a change lerriuqs is a wolf? Sure. Is there a chance MartinD is a wolf? Sure. Is there a chance RendeR is a wolf? Sure. But their play suggest to me that all of the remaining wolves cannot be found in that group of three. At least one is in the SnDvls, Jackal, USFL group I think, and perhaps two.

Therefore, I will not be voting outside that group today.

It seems like SnDvls and Jackal and USFL have each gone under the radar. Can someone give us vote analysis for them over the course of the game?

Originally Posted by SnDvls

Final Day 1 Vote Count:

Pass Jail - 10 - Clap (222), USFL (253), MartinD (261), Hoops (300), path12 (344), Tyrith (366), lerriuqs (372), Pass (380), Jackal (383), BK (395)
BK Jail - 8 - Lathum (177), Render (210), SnDvLs (233), DT (235), saldana (278), CR (295), Danny (349), Kwhit (369)
KWhit Jail - 2 - Autumn (254), Telle (320)
KWhit Lynch - 1 - Schmidty (298)

Day 2 Final Vote Count:

Abe/Clap Jail - 5 - USFL (528), Telle (618), DT (624), CR (626), KWhit (666)
BK Jail - 4 - Lathum (497), MartinD (527), Sndvls (532), lerriuqs (547)
Abe/Clap Lynch - 3 - Saldana (503), The Jackal (560), BK (698)
Pass Jail - 3 - Tyrith (718), Autumn (770), RendeR (783)
USFL Lynch - 2 - Path (557), Schmidty (558)
KWhit Lynch - 1 - Clap (656)
Telle Jail - 1 - Danny (736)

Final Day 3 Vote Count:

Abe Jail - 6 - RendeR (1056), CR (1060), Jackal (1063), lerriuqs (1065), KWhit (1095), DT (1168)
Abe Lynch - 4 - Path (1042), Martin (1045), USFLTecmo (1074), BK (1108)
Autumn Lynch - 4 - SnDvls (1050), Lathum (1077), Saldana (1178), Pass (1194)
DaddyTorgo Jail - 3 - Autumn (1087), Abe (1112), Telle (1126)


Day 4 Final Vote Count:

KWhit Lynch - 14 - Lathum (1258), Pass (1321), Autumn (1323), Lerriuqs (1326), SnDvls (1328), Path (1338), CR (1342), USFL (1350), Saldana (1359), Jackal (1377), Telle (1382), Barkeep (1397), MartinD (1435), RendeR (1440)

Lathum Lynch - 1- KWhit (1380)

Day 5 Final Vote Count:

Lathum Lynch - 11 - Jackal (1510), Autumn (1514), USFL (1526), BK (1546), MartinD (1602), Path (1608), Abe (1614), Saldana (1649), RendeR (1676), Leriuqs (1682), CR (1685),

Lathun Jail - 1 - SnDvls (1565),

Barkeep49 Jail - 1 - Pass (1607)

Did Not Vote: Lathum



Day 6 Final Vote Count:

Saldana Lynch - 11 - USFL (1755), Abe (1756), CR (1757), Lerriuqs (1758), Jackal (1759), Autumn (1761), SnDvls (1762), MartinD (1763), RendeR (1767), BK (1768), Path (1772)

Failed to Vote: Saldana


Day 7 Final Vote Count:

Barkeep Lynch - 6 - SnDvls (1842), MartinD (1866), USFLTecmo (1867), Path12 (1883), Autumn (1900), Lerriuqs (1921)

USFLTecmo Lynch - 4 - RendeR (1874), Abe Sargent (1882), The Jackal (1895), Barkeep (1899)


.

SnDvls:
Day 1 voted jail Barkeep (villager)
Day 2 voted jail Barkeep (villager)
Day 3 voted lynch Autumn (WK)
Day 4 voted lynch KWhit (along with everyone else)
Day 5 voted jail Lathum (everyone else voted lynch)
Day 6 voted lynch saldana (along with everyone else)
Day 7 voted lynch Barkeep (villager)

Jackal:
Day 1 voted jail Pass (villager)
Day 2 voted lynch Abe/Clap (king)
Day 3 voted jail Abe
Day 4 voted lynch KWhit (everyone)
Day 5 voted lynch Lathum (first vote)
Day 6 voted lynch saldana (everyone)
Day 7 voted lynch USFL (unknown)

USFLTecmo:
Day 1 voted jail Pass (villager)
Day 2 voted jail Abe/Clap (king)
Day 3 voted lynch Abe
Day 4 voted lynch KWhit (everyone)
Day 5 voted lynch Lathum (third vote)
Day 6 voted lynch saldana
Day 7 voted lynch Barkeep (understandable since he was the other candidate)

[path12]

Sorry bout that, I meant to delete the recap after recapping that below.

That jail vote on Lathum is interesting enough for me to:

UNVOTE LYNCH USFLTECMO
VOTE LYNCH SNDVLS

[Abe Sargent]

No path, you gotta go MartinD, as I mention above. I think we gotta gofer.

[USFLTecmo]

Even with being very high on Martin's target list tonight, I have to say the math makes sense.

Unvote Lynch RendeR
Vote Lynch MartinD

[path12]

Abe, I'm kind of assuming that Martin is the cultist at this point and is flagging that to the wolves. Thoughts?

[Abe Sargent]

I'd be willing to try and take out the wolf ally who is a villager but wins with them too. That's like a semi win.

[SnDvls]

unvote render
vote lynch martin d

I agree with your math Abe

[path12]

Y'know, this is probably reading too much into it, but looking back through the voting Martin and SnD have voted pretty close together time-wise more often than not.

OK. It's better than anything I've got, though I'm feeling good about the idea of SunnyD being a bad guy.

UNVOTE LYNCH SNDVLS
VOTE LYNCH MARTIND

And I'd agree with Abe, Martin. If we're wrong and you are a good guy, keep the big picture in mind and nail a wolf.

[The Jackal]

Well, I suppose I see the merit in this. If you are telling the truth, good luck.

UNVOTE LYNCH USFL
VOTE LYNCH MARTIN

[RendeR]

Huh, well paint me green and call me a turnip, that might just work.


VOTE Lynch MARTIN

[The Jackal]

Martin - 6 (Abe 2023, USFL 2028, SND 2031, path 2032, Jackal 2033, RendeR 2034)
USFL - 1 (Martin 2000)

yet to vote - lerriuqs

[The Jackal]

6 votes in 11 posts, sheesh.

[RendeR]

THe math speaks strongly young padewan

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by RendeR

THe math speaks strongly young padewan

is yoda a turnip? it all makes sense..

[The Jackal]

i'm not sure i remember a game with this many stacked votes

[path12]

I'm out until late west coast time. Good luck to us. God knows we need it.

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

is yoda a turnip? it all makes sense..

King illegal forest to pig wild kill in it a is!

[lerriuqs]

Just caught up. I like the math Abe.

VOTE MARTIND lynch

[lerriuqs]

Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

If you honestly thought I wouldn't have taken care of that, you are silly.

Sorry. Didn't have you here to confirm and I didn't want to take the chance it had been overlooked. As stated, we couldn't afford a no lynch yesterday IMO.

[RendeR]

talk about a quiet thread.....creepy.

[SnDvls]

Originally Posted by RendeR

talk about a quiet thread.....creepy.

it's all the run-a-way votes

[Abe Sargent]

time stamp

[Abe Sargent]

Okay, for the record, no duking by me tonight.

[dubb93]

time check

[dubb93]

deadline

[dubb93]

Day 8 Final Vote Count:

MartinD Lynch - 7 - Abe Sargent (2023), USFLTecmo (2028), SnDvls (2031), Path12 (2032), The Jackal (2033), RendeR (2034), Lerriuqs (2042),

USFLTecmo Lynch - 1 - MartinD (2000)