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Old 04-03-2011, 03:41 PM   #2001
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If he ends up at Missouri, I wonder how long they can keep him?
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Old 04-03-2011, 03:42 PM   #2002
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We'll only know if this rumor is true if it happens. Rumored that Josh Kroenke has given Alden the extra money to offer Brad Stevens a 7 year, $21M contract once the season is over. Not terribly surprising given that Josh was the one that gave the extra money to extend the offer to Painter up to $2.3M. Always nice to have a former player with a large amount of money in these situations.
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Old 04-03-2011, 04:11 PM   #2003
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Just because they've inquired doesn't mean he's accepted. I mean, damn. Can't the dude get home and breathe first? He'll be leaving a lot of money on the table to just wait. But if he's the real deal, it seems to me that waiting might be in his best interest.

I think with his wife being pregnant with their first kid and the fact that they bought a house in Richmond will factor into this. Plus, VCU is talking $1m total compensation. If Mizzou is only talking $1.3 to $1.7m, coupled with a fan base who are going to be split at best on his arrival...I dunno.

I can see take the money and run, but he's not a 50-year old dude who won't get another crack at it. He's not even 35 yet. Just seems hasty to just go for the sake of going. Stock hot or not. Just hire IMG like Stevens did, hit the speaking circuit and maybe get a few endorsements here and there and just wait for a better opportunity to open up.

I guess we'll see what it looks like sooner than later.
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Old 04-03-2011, 07:10 PM   #2004
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Just because they've inquired doesn't mean he's accepted. I mean, damn. Can't the dude get home and breathe first? He'll be leaving a lot of money on the table to just wait. But if he's the real deal, it seems to me that waiting might be in his best interest.

I think with his wife being pregnant with their first kid and the fact that they bought a house in Richmond will factor into this. Plus, VCU is talking $1m total compensation. If Mizzou is only talking $1.3 to $1.7m, coupled with a fan base who are going to be split at best on his arrival...I dunno.

I can see take the money and run, but he's not a 50-year old dude who won't get another crack at it. He's not even 35 yet. Just seems hasty to just go for the sake of going. Stock hot or not. Just hire IMG like Stevens did, hit the speaking circuit and maybe get a few endorsements here and there and just wait for a better opportunity to open up.

I guess we'll see what it looks like sooner than later.

1. He's going to get a chance to breathe. He'll be attending his grandfather's funeral. (insert your Mizzou funeral jokes here)

2. He's not going to get a better chance to jump than right now. There are two very good BCS opportunities available right now (Mizzou and NC State). He can play these two schools against each other. The guaranteed money is likely to be $1.7M at a minimum.

3. Mizzou has the added incentive that they already have a veteran core of players in place for next year that have played in a system very similar to what he runs. He could hit the ground running with the players available.

4. Not sure where you get the information that the fan base is split. Most fans are very excited about the prospect of having Smart just because the transition between coaches would be minimal due to system.
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Old 04-03-2011, 07:24 PM   #2005
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He'd be smart to wait to see what Calipari does, which is a pretty big wildcard here. He won't make a move til later in the year and Kentucky will likely look at both of these coaches if that does happen.

Pretty sure that Stevens rumor is just that.
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Old 04-03-2011, 07:36 PM   #2006
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We'll only know if this rumor is true if it happens. Rumored that Josh Kroenke has given Alden the extra money to offer Brad Stevens a 7 year, $21M contract once the season is over. Not terribly surprising given that Josh was the one that gave the extra money to extend the offer to Painter up to $2.3M. Always nice to have a former player with a large amount of money in these situations.

Do you mean Stan Kroenke? Josh is only like 20 something isn't he?
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Old 04-03-2011, 07:50 PM   #2007
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He'd be smart to wait to see what Calipari does, which is a pretty big wildcard here. He won't make a move til later in the year and Kentucky will likely look at both of these coaches if that does happen


Are there Calipari to the NBA rumors going around or something? I haven't heard anything about him but I haven't been looking either...
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Old 04-03-2011, 07:53 PM   #2008
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Are there Calipari to the NBA rumors going around or something? I haven't heard anything about him but I haven't been looking either...

It's kind of an annual event I think. Knicks & Heat mostly I think. Here's some UK linkage that covers it a little bit.

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Old 04-03-2011, 08:26 PM   #2009
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It's kind of an annual event I think. Knicks & Heat mostly I think. Here's some UK linkage that covers it a little bit.

Calipari To The NBA: Let The Rumors Begin

Yeah, but then he'd be under a salary cap when he was signing players

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Old 04-03-2011, 08:34 PM   #2010
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Old 04-03-2011, 08:34 PM   #2011
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Do you mean Stan Kroenke? Josh is only like 20 something isn't he?

No, I'm talking about Josh Kroenke. He's the current president of a club called the Denver Nuggets.
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Old 04-03-2011, 08:36 PM   #2012
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It's kind of an annual event I think. Knicks & Heat mostly I think. Here's some UK linkage that covers it a little bit.

Calipari To The NBA: Let The Rumors Begin


My assumption is that he needs a couple more years to build up some good violations before he goes to the NBA, so it would really surprise me if anything happened this year. It'd be hilarious though.
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Old 04-03-2011, 08:41 PM   #2013
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The violations or the bolting to the NBA?

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Old 04-03-2011, 08:42 PM   #2014
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Do you mean Stan Kroenke? Josh is only like 20 something isn't he?

He's 30. And yeah, his dad gave him the keys to the family franchises. Dad bought the Rams and in order to do so, he had to divest his ownership in the Nuggets and Avs to follow NFL rules.
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Old 04-03-2011, 08:48 PM   #2015
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The violations or the bolting to the NBA?

Hah! Bolting to the NBA. Whenever reports start coming out about Kentucky/Calipari recruiting violations it will be anything but a surprise.
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Old 04-03-2011, 09:43 PM   #2016
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Looks like Mizzou may have a hire. Board of Curators meeting scheduled during the NCAA championship game tomorrow night. Only reason they'd be meeting would be to approve a contract offer. Word passing around is that it's a 'current head coach'. Sounds like MU passed on Smart and NC State is pursuing him hard.
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Old 04-03-2011, 10:20 PM   #2017
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Probably the coach of the winner of the National Championship game gets to be the next coach for Missouri.

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Old 04-03-2011, 10:25 PM   #2018
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Probably the coach of the winner of the National Championship game gets to be the next coach for Missouri.

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Old 04-03-2011, 10:59 PM   #2019
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Sounds like MU passed on Smart and NC State is pursuing him hard.

Or Smart passed on MU.
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Old 04-03-2011, 11:02 PM   #2020
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Sounds like Tubby passed on Mizzou, too.

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Old 04-03-2011, 11:21 PM   #2021
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Multiple sources confirmed to me Sunday evening that University of Miami basketball coach Frank Haith is in negotiations with the University of Missouri to become its next basketball coach.
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Old 04-03-2011, 11:23 PM   #2022
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It's kind of an annual event I think. Knicks & Heat mostly I think. Here's some UK linkage that covers it a little bit.

Calipari To The NBA: Let The Rumors Begin
no shit. i was just talking about this. cal's like the vigilante ceo that comes in raises prices, fires everybody and the stock doubles in a year. then cashes his options and slides out the back door as the company goes belly up.
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Old 04-03-2011, 11:37 PM   #2023
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Multiple sources confirmed to me Sunday evening that University of Miami basketball coach Frank Haith is in negotiations with the University of Missouri to become its next basketball coach.

If Brooks had got a single thing right since the Anderson fiasco started, someone might listen. He's already admitted he thinks he's receiving misdirection indirectly on most of his information. Kind of hard to take a guy seriously who doesn't even believe his own leaks.
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Old 04-03-2011, 11:48 PM   #2024
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If Brooks had got a single thing right since the Anderson fiasco started, someone might listen. He's already admitted he thinks he's receiving misdirection indirectly on most of his information. Kind of hard to take a guy seriously who doesn't even believe his own leaks.

dear god the irony is killing me
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Old 04-04-2011, 12:00 AM   #2025
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dear god the irony is killing me

I can tell you one thing. If it IS true, Alden likely made his last hire as the AD of Missouri. He'll be gone quickly. Likely as soon as the university hires their next president.

Edit: Here's a local article. There's going to be a hailstorm from alumni to try to get this stopped by the Board of Curators vote if this holds up through the morning. Goodness me.

http://www.columbiatribune.com/news/...ob/?tigerextra

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Old 04-04-2011, 12:04 AM   #2026
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I can tell you one thing. If it IS true, Alden likely made his last hire as the AD of Missouri. He'll be gone quickly. Likely as soon as the university hires their next president.

Well he is going to have to hire someone. It doesnt appear there is as much interest in the Mizzou job as some people may think.

Is he suppose to hold out on hopes that Rick Patino jumps ship from Louisville and decides he wants a new challenge at Missouri?
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Old 04-04-2011, 12:08 AM   #2027
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Well he is going to have to hire someone. It doesnt appear there is as much interest in the Mizzou job as some people may think.

Is he suppose to hold out on hopes that Rick Patino jumps ship from Louisville and decides he wants a new challenge at Missouri?

Missouri has facilities that rival most any program. If you have to hire a coach who has only one .500 record in conference in seven seasons and has never had less than 11 losses in a season, it's obvious that the program isn't the problem. It's the AD. There were rumors that Painter had reservations about the Mizzou program due to previous dealings by the AD that were passed amongst the coaching circles. You've got to wonder if this hire goes through whether our AD is the real problem here.
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Old 04-04-2011, 12:12 AM   #2028
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Missouri has facilities that rival most any program. If you have to hire a coach who has only one .500 record in conference in seven seasons and has never had less than 11 losses in a season, it's obvious that the program isn't the problem. It's the AD. There were rumors that Painter had reservations about the Mizzou program due to previous dealings by the AD that were passed amongst the coaching circles. You've got to wonder if this hire goes through whether our AD is the real problem here.

Maybe people are just happy where they are? I mean, Columbia isn't exactly Malibu.
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Old 04-04-2011, 12:16 AM   #2029
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I mean, Columbia isn't exactly Malibu.

And that's a good thing.
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Old 04-04-2011, 12:43 AM   #2030
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pretty underwhelming
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Old 04-04-2011, 12:50 AM   #2031
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I've heard a few places that Bobby Knight inquired about the UNLV job, but UNLV told him no. Although it would have been cool, I think that's the smart move.
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Old 04-04-2011, 12:52 AM   #2032
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Who knows. I wonder what the difference is between these coaches outside of the elite top anyway. Haith has been steady at a place where basketball is an afterthought. In theory, he would win even more at a place with better facilities/prestige/recruiting advantage. How can we so definitely compare him to Painter or Anderson or anyone else?

Here's hoping the alumni base freaks the hell out, Haith succeeds, and then all the alumni claim they knew it was a great hire all along.
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My sources tell me that Alford never has had any interest in Missouri

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Old 04-04-2011, 01:05 AM   #2034
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And that's a good thing.

Yes...Malibu sucks! I want some o' dat Missouri Pinot!
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Alden elected not to wait for a possible chance to talk to Shaka Smart. Mizzou sources tell me that Alden had no interest in bidding against NC State for Smart's services. A Big 10 head coach told me tonight Alden's search was hindered by a perception that he was lowballing candidates.
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Old 04-04-2011, 01:10 AM   #2036
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I can see cartman at the bottom of the screen shaking about this potential hire.
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Old 04-04-2011, 01:11 AM   #2037
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Good to see the St. Louis Post-Dispatch reporting information a day or two after I posted it on this board.

Mizzou likes Mike, prepares deal to keep him

I actually feel somewhat bad for the Arkansas fans in this situation. They were sold a bill of goods by UA alumni and media who thought they knew what was going on when they didn't have a clue. There wasn't a lick of interest by Anderson. Welcome to the business of college athletics.

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If UA is smart, they'll let MU put out a 'MA has been signed to an extension' press release and just pretend that they never made an attempt. It would appear that the pretending has already begun if the connected UA posters are already acting like a contract never happened. I know without question that MA was offered a 5 year, $10M contract through his agent. As I mentioned before, they got a polite 'no' and little else.

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Absolutely thrilled with how our AD is handling both the Anderson situation and the new hire. Still points to a Painter hire sooner rather than later. Surprised how easily Purdue is willing to let him go, but it sounds like Painter was pretty pissed when Crean got a better offer than he did. Even Purdue fans are posting on both Purdue and Mizzou message boards that Painter is likely gone.

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Missouri has facilities that rival most any program. If you have to hire a coach who has only one .500 record in conference in seven seasons and has never had less than 11 losses in a season, it's obvious that the program isn't the problem. It's the AD. There were rumors that Painter had reservations about the Mizzou program due to previous dealings by the AD that were passed amongst the coaching circles. You've got to wonder if this hire goes through whether our AD is the real problem here.

ROFL

Do you use this bullshit to feed the grapes, or are you too wrapped up in playing "Scooby Doo and the Case of the Bride in the Haunted Wine Cellar" to realize that you are an utter fraud?
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Old 04-04-2011, 01:13 AM   #2038
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Let's face it guys, if John Wooden wouldn't re-animate for the Missouri job, then he deserves to be dead.
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Why? Brooks doesn't believe, that's the difference
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Rumor is KSU's Frank Martin considers Miami his dream job because he's from there. Would be a trade up for the U.
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Old 04-04-2011, 01:16 AM   #2041
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This reminds me of Trent Johnson leaving for LSU to avoid being fired (That was for you Karl)

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And I thought GT shit the bed when hiring.

If this news/rumor holds up, Mizzou's AD just made Mike Hamilton look like a relative genius in Knoxville.
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This reminds me of Trent Johnson leaving for LSU to avoid being fired (That was for you Karl)

Ugh...still have no idea what really led to that chain of events. All I know is everyone wound up losing.
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If Brooks had got a single thing right since the Anderson fiasco started, someone might listen. He's already admitted he thinks he's receiving misdirection indirectly on most of his information. Kind of hard to take a guy seriously who doesn't even believe his own leaks.

I rarely, if ever, get speechless. After reading this, followed by the shredding of the AD who was praised so much before. . . wow. just wow.

Wonderful hire by the way.
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I woke up this morning, saw the news scrolling on MSG, and just COULD NOT WAIT to get into work so I could read this thread. And the bullshit was even better than I expected!

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University of Dayton hires former NC State point guard, and current Arizona assistant coach Archie Miller to be their 6th head coach in the last 60 years.

Archie Miller is Sean's brother, and UD fans are pretty happy about this hire. The guy looks like he is about 20 years old, but with Sean's track record and the early talk about his style of play, I think it was a good hire and the message boards seem pretty happy about it with about 90% of boarders giving it an A or B.

UD as a stepping stone to a major conference job... it has worked for Xavier and frankly that continues to be the model team that we have been trying to emulate without success for 15 years now. Looking forward to seeing what he can do with the talent we have left... frankly, if we have enough success that in 2-3 years Archie is moving on, that means we have had some tournament success that we haven't had since 1984.

That said, I would MUCH rather have Archie Miller than Frank Haith. Jesus, what a horrible hire that guy is.
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Word passing around is that it's a 'current head coach'.

Spot on as always.
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Old 04-04-2011, 08:58 AM   #2049
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Have to admit the Mizzou hire is pretty underwhelming. I am under no delusion that it is anybody's dream job by any stretch of the imagination but at least go with an unproven mid-major coach instead of a ACC retread. (Nobody knew who Gary Pinkel was at the time) I will obviously support the coach and won't act like Smart or Stevens or Calipari or any othr big name was even considering Mizzou. Alden has done well with Pinkel and Anderson so I am willing to give him some leeway here but I have to say again this is pretty underwhelming.
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I guess SBB should've listened to the Missouri sources so he could finally get something right.

(btw He said he wasn't going to report anything until he was sure since he was receiving so much misdirection. Then he reported this. And he was dead on.)

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