2014 MLB Thread - Page 42

PilotMan · 10-07-2014, 08:29 PM

I really want to explode right now. Explode in a torrent of anger and frustration. I want to revert to being a little boy and cry for my disappointment. I want to forget that I get this upset about this stuff. I want this feeling to pass. I want to hate. I need to move on. I need to love. I need to breathe. Sigh....

heybrad · 10-07-2014, 08:40 PM

As I kid I grew up watching the Dodgers.
As I got older and moved inland I attended numerous Angel games.
I then moved to Virginia and have attended numerous Nats games so adopted them as well.

I was thrilled when all three made the playoffs. They're now a combined 2-8 and this is officially the worst baseball post season I've ever seen.

Thomkal · 10-07-2014, 08:42 PM

Woot Cards!

MizzouRah · 10-07-2014, 09:02 PM

Amazing we find ways to win games at times, especially in the postseason. We are getting closer to a KC - STL series!

tarcone · 10-07-2014, 09:03 PM

Who would have thought the Cardinals would win with homeruns?

MizzouRah · 10-07-2014, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Subby

What happened with the protesters was really shitty. I do not think any Cardinals fans on this board would agree with how they were treated. I would have said "Go Cards" if some segment of Dodger fans had exhibited similarly shitty behavior yesterday (maybe they did and I didn't hear about it?). I was commenting on what was a terrible incident.

I am a 'Skins fan, so I am well-versed in shitty behavior by fans of my favorite team. I think we are all smart enough not to attribute the behavior of a small subset of fans to an entire fanbase.

Except for Cowboys fans. FUCK THOSE GUYS.

AND REDS FANS! AND BLACKHAWK FANS, AND 49ER FANS!!!

The Jackal · 10-07-2014, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by MizzouRah

Amazing we find ways to win games at times, especially in the postseason. We are getting closer to a KC - STL series!

Hopefully the O's have something to say about that. Honestly though I'm going to root for whoever wins the ALCS.

The Jackal · 10-07-2014, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

So does Mattingly get the ax?

Tough spot. How do you tell probably the best pitcher in baseball that he's done when he just struck out the side? Yes it made sense with his pitch count and the short rest, but it's hard to quell that fire. There will be a lot of questions asked of Mattingly's decision though.

tarcone · 10-07-2014, 09:19 PM

The Dodgers bullpen isnt that great. In hindsight, it wasnt a great decision. but at the time, I think it was the right decision to leave Kershaw in.

Lathum · 10-07-2014, 09:22 PM

Whoever gets the Cards next is in a tough spot with Wainright being able to go 3 times if needed.

tarcone · 10-07-2014, 09:36 PM

And Lynn and Lackey a couple

tarcone · 10-07-2014, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by MizzouRah

Amazing we find ways to win games at times, especially in the postseason. We are getting closer to a KC - STL series!

KCs speed vs. Molinas arm. That would a blast.

sterlingice · 10-07-2014, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by The Jackal

Hopefully the O's have something to say about that. Honestly though I'm going to root for whoever wins the ALCS.

I want the Royals to win, but I really want to see whoever comes out of the AL to beat whoever comes out of the NL and it's been a while since I could say that this far out.

SI

Buccaneer · 10-07-2014, 10:22 PM

So happy that both LA/OC teams are out. Woo hoo.

Vince, Pt. II · 10-07-2014, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

Whoever gets the Cards next is in a tough spot with Wainright being able to go 3 times if needed.

Yup. I'm far from sold that it's going to be the Giants even now, but I was really hoping that series would go 5.

Vince, Pt. II · 10-07-2014, 10:51 PM

This is the pessimist in me talking, but it feels like getting no runs in this situation is a really, really bad sign for the Giants.

Vince, Pt. II · 10-07-2014, 10:55 PM

Well, shit.

MizzouRah · 10-07-2014, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by The Jackal

Hopefully the O's have something to say about that. Honestly though I'm going to root for whoever wins the ALCS.

The good thing is.. I like BOTH the AL teams.

I just want to drive up to KC for one of the World Series games.

MizzouRah · 10-07-2014, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by tarcone

KCs speed vs. Molinas arm. That would a blast.

Reminds me of Whitey ball.. would be a great series I would think.

MizzouRah · 10-07-2014, 11:24 PM

Damn.. Harper is a beast.

Vince, Pt. II · 10-07-2014, 11:47 PM

So is that obstruction? He was blocking the plate before the ball got there, but it's not like he camped out he was just running there.

kingfc22 · 10-07-2014, 11:49 PM

Geez. Buster's lack of speed canceled out two runs so far this series.

The Jackal · 10-07-2014, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Vince, Pt. II

So is that obstruction? He was blocking the plate before the ball got there, but it's not like he camped out he was just running there.

I was walking out of the room when they were explaining it, but sounded like they said because he applied the tag before he would have been able to reach home it wasn't obstruction? Definitely looked like the knee was in the way, technically.

The Jackal · 10-08-2014, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by MizzouRah

The good thing is.. I like BOTH the AL teams.

I just want to drive up to KC for one of the World Series games.

Fair enough. Should be a good series - power vs speed. I've got no idea how it's going to turn out, just enjoying the ride and the black and orange. A lot of my friends adopted the Nats when they moved in, but I've always been an O's guy.

Vince, Pt. II · 10-08-2014, 12:02 AM

That's a totally terrible and wrong explanation. Earlier this season the Giants benefitted from that call when the catcher got the ball and the runner was 15 feel up the line still.

The Jackal · 10-08-2014, 12:03 AM

I just now realized that second wild pitch was on an IBB. hahahaha

The Jackal · 10-08-2014, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Vince, Pt. II

That's a totally terrible and wrong explanation. Earlier this season the Giants benefitted from that call when the catcher got the ball and the runner was 15 feel up the line still.

I'm not super familiar with baseball replay rules, but I guess if it's like football that part of the play might not have been reviewable, in which case the umps just got it wrong in the bang bang play, at least in the interpretation of that rule?

Vince, Pt. II · 10-08-2014, 12:07 AM

I'm less worried about the knee - he clearly had the ball by that point. But he planted essentially ON the plate, giving Posey no clear path to the plate, and he didn't have the ball yet. I'm not sure if the rule applies to people who aren't standing still at the plate though.

Also, from a baseball perspective, I'm glad they called him out - scoring there would feel like it was done on a technicality, and while I'm all for my team winning any way they possibly can, that's a lame way to get a run.

Vince, Pt. II · 10-08-2014, 12:07 AM

Yeah, I'm more curious about whether or not it even applies there than I am in whether or not the correct ruling was made.

A hit with a runner in scoring position here would sure be nice.

The Jackal · 10-08-2014, 12:08 AM

Gotta get through Harper one more time to advance - the way it should be.

kingfc22 · 10-08-2014, 12:17 AM

Poor call. Why don't umps ask for help.

kingfc22 · 10-08-2014, 12:27 AM

Giants v Cardinals. It's only fitting.

Ramzavail · 10-08-2014, 12:41 AM

I'm so sick of the Cards.

Glengoyne · 10-08-2014, 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by tarcone

The Dodgers bullpen isnt that great. In hindsight, it wasnt a great decision. but at the time, I think it was the right decision to leave Kershaw in.

I'm not sure. 90+ pitches, three days rest, 7th inning...Don't you get somebody up in the 'pen like right then. Especially when you left the bullpen vacant, then only got one pitcher warming up, just how many days ago?

PilotMan · 10-08-2014, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by kingfc22

Giants v Cardinals. It's only fitting.

It's only fitting an earthquake swallow the teams up and allow the AL teams to play for the title.

Butter · 10-08-2014, 07:37 AM

The sun rises and sets and either the Giants or Cardinals are in the NLCS. This time, both.

I may not like either team whatsoever, but dammit they keep getting there. Congrats to the fans of both teams that are on here that aren't douchebags.

tarcone · 10-08-2014, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Glengoyne

I'm not sure. 90+ pitches, three days rest, 7th inning...Don't you get somebody up in the 'pen like right then. Especially when you left the bullpen vacant, then only got one pitcher warming up, just how many days ago?

Yes. But Kershaw struck the side out in the 6th. That had to be a big influence on the decision as well.

Buccaneer · 10-08-2014, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by kingfc22

Giants v Cardinals. It's only fitting.

It is truly fitting and the best outcome, esp. with the hated Dodgers gone. Two very historical NL teams - think Mays, Musial, Mathewson, McGraw, Gashouse, McCovey, Marichal, Rickey, Gibson, et al. Cardinals, with their history and fans and being a superb baseball town, has rightly been called the Gem of Baseball. Giants have a slight taint by leaving New York but they have built an ideal ballpark on the Bay and knows how to gut out wins when it matters. Right now, it would be challenging to pick out one of these two teams as the Team of the 2010s but these two have been the best in baseball this decade.

MrBug708 · 10-08-2014, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by PilotMan

It's only fitting an earthquake swallow the teams up and allow the AL teams to play for the title.

This.

cuervo72 · 10-08-2014, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by The Jackal

Hopefully the O's have something to say about that. Honestly though I'm going to root for whoever wins the ALCS.

dingdingdingdingding

Buccaneer · 10-08-2014, 10:39 AM

As much I love where the Royals are, they are still in the AL.

Glengoyne · 10-08-2014, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by tarcone

Yes. But Kershaw struck the side out in the 6th. That had to be a big influence on the decision as well.

I was relying more on my long term memory when he didn't get anyone up at the start of the seventh, and I said to a fellow Giant fan "What? Is Mattingly a moron? Doesn't he remember the other day?"

It just turned out that I was right. I'm often not. But then again, I'm not a big league manager that has to approach "win or go home" playoff games differently than an outing in May. Perhaps not being a big league manager is something Mattingly and I should have in common?

Glengoyne · 10-08-2014, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Buccaneer

It is truly fitting and the best outcome, esp. with the hated Dodgers gone. Two very historical NL teams - think Mays, Musial, Mathewson, McGraw, Gashouse, McCovey, Marichal, Rickey, Gibson, et al. Cardinals, with their history and fans and being a superb baseball town, has rightly been called the Gem of Baseball. Giants have a slight taint by leaving New York but they have built an ideal ballpark on the Bay and knows how to gut out wins when it matters. Right now, it would be challenging to pick out one of these two teams as the Team of the 2010s but these two have been the best in baseball this decade.

I'm a Giant's fan, so clearly I'm biased in this, but I agree with you.

The Giants have won two World Series this decade, but that is also their total for last five decades. How can they be hated?

And the Cardinals, while they have been more successful, they've generally done it well.

I can't really understand hate for either of these teams.

Buccaneer · 10-08-2014, 11:49 AM

Glengoyne, you know how LA and Chicago people are.

Arles · 10-08-2014, 12:10 PM

Consistent success always brings out the hate. I don't begrudge any of the Dodger fans for hating both teams as one is a division rival and the other has been a consistent playoff foe. That's what sports is and I've done my time disliking the Cowboys (back in the 90s as a Pack fan) and the 49ers now days.

sterlingice · 10-08-2014, 12:11 PM

(I'll be honest, I'm pulling for the Giants: they're just kindof nondescript to me)

SI

BishopMVP · 10-08-2014, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Vince, Pt. II

That's a totally terrible and wrong explanation. Earlier this season the Giants benefitted from that call when the catcher got the ball and the runner was 15 feel up the line still.

The announcers said MLB changed the rule sometime during the season.

DanGarion · 10-08-2014, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Vince, Pt. II

So is that obstruction? He was blocking the plate before the ball got there, but it's not like he camped out he was just running there.

The pitcher is not a catcher.

AENeuman · 10-08-2014, 01:08 PM

I can't believe a team with no hitting and 5 mid season call up rookies is in the nlcs. The one constant from 2010 to now in Buster and Bumgarner, a potential for one the best batteries of all time.

Ever since the Marlin championship years, beating the Giants each time, i struggle in seeing the the playoffs as just the best teams playing each, rather than the hottest teams. More than any other big sport the team you build to win the season is often different than the one you need to win playoffs, just ask the A's.

That being said, suck it LA.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 10-08-2014, 01:37 PM

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10-07-2014, 08:29 PM	#2051
PilotMan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seven miles up	I really want to explode right now. Explode in a torrent of anger and frustration. I want to revert to being a little boy and cry for my disappointment. I want to forget that I get this upset about this stuff. I want this feeling to pass. I want to hate. I need to move on. I need to love. I need to breathe. Sigh.... __________________ He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops. Like Steam? Join the FOFC Steam group here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/FOFConSteam

10-07-2014, 08:40 PM	#2052
heybrad Norm!!! Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Manassas, VA	As I kid I grew up watching the Dodgers. As I got older and moved inland I attended numerous Angel games. I then moved to Virginia and have attended numerous Nats games so adopted them as well. I was thrilled when all three made the playoffs. They're now a combined 2-8 and this is officially the worst baseball post season I've ever seen. Last edited by heybrad : 10-07-2014 at 08:41 PM.

10-07-2014, 09:03 PM	#2055
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10-07-2014, 09:19 PM	#2059
tarcone Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pacific	The Dodgers bullpen isnt that great. In hindsight, it wasnt a great decision. but at the time, I think it was the right decision to leave Kershaw in. __________________ Excuses are for wusses- Spencer Lee Punting is Winning- Tory Taylor The word is Fight! Fight! Fight! For Iowa FOFC 30 Dollar Challenge Champion-OOTP '15

10-07-2014, 09:36 PM	#2061
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10-07-2014, 08:42 PM	#2053
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	Woot Cards!

10-07-2014, 09:02 PM	#2054
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	Amazing we find ways to win games at times, especially in the postseason. We are getting closer to a KC - STL series!

10-07-2014, 09:22 PM	#2060
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Whoever gets the Cards next is in a tough spot with Wainright being able to go 3 times if needed.

10-07-2014, 10:22 PM	#2064
Buccaneer Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Colorado	So happy that both LA/OC teams are out. Woo hoo.

10-07-2014, 10:51 PM	#2066
Vince, Pt. II Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Somewhere More Familiar	This is the pessimist in me talking, but it feels like getting no runs in this situation is a really, really bad sign for the Giants.

10-07-2014, 10:55 PM	#2067
Vince, Pt. II Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Somewhere More Familiar	Well, shit.

10-07-2014, 11:24 PM	#2070
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	Damn.. Harper is a beast.

10-07-2014, 11:47 PM	#2071
Vince, Pt. II Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Somewhere More Familiar	So is that obstruction? He was blocking the plate before the ball got there, but it's not like he camped out he was just running there. Last edited by Vince, Pt. II : 10-07-2014 at 11:48 PM.

10-07-2014, 11:49 PM	#2072
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Geez. Buster's lack of speed canceled out two runs so far this series. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

10-08-2014, 12:02 AM	#2075
Vince, Pt. II Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Somewhere More Familiar	That's a totally terrible and wrong explanation. Earlier this season the Giants benefitted from that call when the catcher got the ball and the runner was 15 feel up the line still.

10-08-2014, 12:03 AM	#2076
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	I just now realized that second wild pitch was on an IBB. hahahaha

10-08-2014, 12:07 AM	#2078
Vince, Pt. II Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Somewhere More Familiar	I'm less worried about the knee - he clearly had the ball by that point. But he planted essentially ON the plate, giving Posey no clear path to the plate, and he didn't have the ball yet. I'm not sure if the rule applies to people who aren't standing still at the plate though. Also, from a baseball perspective, I'm glad they called him out - scoring there would feel like it was done on a technicality, and while I'm all for my team winning any way they possibly can, that's a lame way to get a run.

10-08-2014, 12:07 AM	#2079
Vince, Pt. II Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Somewhere More Familiar	Yeah, I'm more curious about whether or not it even applies there than I am in whether or not the correct ruling was made. A hit with a runner in scoring position here would sure be nice.

10-08-2014, 12:08 AM	#2080
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	Gotta get through Harper one more time to advance - the way it should be.

10-08-2014, 12:17 AM	#2081
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Poor call. Why don't umps ask for help. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

10-08-2014, 12:27 AM	#2082
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Giants v Cardinals. It's only fitting. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

10-08-2014, 12:41 AM	#2083
Ramzavail College Starter Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Strong Island, NY	I'm so sick of the Cards.

10-08-2014, 07:37 AM	#2086
Butter Coordinator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Dayton, OH	The sun rises and sets and either the Giants or Cardinals are in the NLCS. This time, both. I may not like either team whatsoever, but dammit they keep getting there. Congrats to the fans of both teams that are on here that aren't douchebags. __________________ My listening habits

10-08-2014, 10:39 AM	#2091
Buccaneer Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Colorado	As much I love where the Royals are, they are still in the AL.

10-08-2014, 11:49 AM	#2094
Buccaneer Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Colorado	Glengoyne, you know how LA and Chicago people are.

10-08-2014, 12:10 PM	#2095
Arles Grey Dog Software Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Phoenix, AZ by way of Belleville, IL	Consistent success always brings out the hate. I don't begrudge any of the Dodger fans for hating both teams as one is a division rival and the other has been a consistent playoff foe. That's what sports is and I've done my time disliking the Cowboys (back in the 90s as a Pack fan) and the 49ers now days. __________________ Developer of Bowl Bound College Football http://www.greydogsoftware.com

10-08-2014, 12:11 PM	#2096
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10-08-2014, 01:08 PM	#2099
AENeuman College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: SF	I can't believe a team with no hitting and 5 mid season call up rookies is in the nlcs. The one constant from 2010 to now in Buster and Bumgarner, a potential for one the best batteries of all time. Ever since the Marlin championship years, beating the Giants each time, i struggle in seeing the the playoffs as just the best teams playing each, rather than the hottest teams. More than any other big sport the team you build to win the season is often different than the one you need to win playoffs, just ask the A's. That being said, suck it LA.

10-08-2014, 01:37 PM	#2100
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