Survivor:Challenge/Common Thread (GAME OVER! FEED BACK WELCOME) - Page 42

Barkeep49 · 02-14-2007, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

BK, question. Can you use a letter on the inside once going across and once going down?

No. Once period.

Lathum · 02-14-2007, 09:32 AM

If I had to guess I think he means he was the seer ( pretty obvious) and he was the first one killed. I am also assuming the fact he was the seer was discussed in OZ's thread at some point and he feels one of the wolves was reading the Oz thread and shouldn't have been, hence him being the first wolf target.

ImTheCrew · 02-14-2007, 09:33 AM

or one of the oz told some one

Lathum · 02-14-2007, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ImTheCrew

or one of the oz told some one

well unless they told someone in a thread then someone is cheating.

I don't want to fuel this fire, especially since barkeep hasn't commented on it yet so I think it best to discuss this after the game.

Barkeep49 · 02-14-2007, 09:35 AM

Cheating is possible in any game. Because of the more unusual restrictions here I think people are thinking about it more. I maintain my stance that most people around here are honest. If GE, or other people, have solid evidence of cheating ala Tyrith, which of course turned out to be more of a gray than clear cut case of cheating, please let me know. Otherwise I'd encourage people to play the game.

ImTheCrew · 02-14-2007, 09:36 AM

i was refering that someone in hesling tribe let it out, because i know that the howard tribe did not

ImTheCrew · 02-14-2007, 09:36 AM

the new howard and hesling

ImTheCrew · 02-14-2007, 09:39 AM

just a possiblity

Alan T · 02-14-2007, 09:40 AM

Barkeep, Is the goal to use the most letters or make the most words (using letters only once)? Your instructions says both at different points.

SnDvls · 02-14-2007, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

If I had to guess I think he means he was the seer ( pretty obvious) and he was the first one killed. I am also assuming the fact he was the seer was discussed in OZ's thread at some point and he feels one of the wolves was reading the Oz thread and shouldn't have been, hence him being the first wolf target.

this could also point to a conversion and it was in Oz...just a thought. I'd like to believe no one cheated in this game and think BK will handle it.

ImTheCrew · 02-14-2007, 09:41 AM

and how did everyone know that GE was the SEER?

Barkeep49 · 02-14-2007, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

Barkeep, Is the goal to use the most letters or make the most words (using letters only once)? Your instructions says both at different points.

Letters. I've now fixed it.

Barkeep49 · 02-14-2007, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by ImTheCrew

and how did everyone know that GE was the SEER?

From the way I wrote his death.

Abe Sargent · 02-14-2007, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by GoldenEagle

I am not sore loser or anything, but I know for a fact there was some serious cheating going on in this game. I really do not understand why people can not play fairly.

uh-oh

ImTheCrew · 02-14-2007, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

From the way I wrote his death.

how so barkeep(im new so go easy on me

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SnDvls · 02-14-2007, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

From the way I wrote his death.

funny cause I didn't get that from that at all

guess I just thought the names thing was thrown in there to have fun with us.

GoldenEagle · 02-14-2007, 09:49 AM

I will hold my reservations until after the game.

Lathum · 02-14-2007, 09:57 AM

I think the list in the fire makes it obvious. I also think from the write up GE found a wolf

Lathum · 02-14-2007, 09:58 AM

I suggest the members of Howard look at GE's posts and see who he may have scanned.

path12 · 02-14-2007, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ImTheCrew

and how did everyone know that GE was the SEER?

I didn't know.

Lathum · 02-14-2007, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

C'mon in Survivors.

I do have some bad news. Last night GoldenEagle's body was found. It was mangled. Ripped to shreds. Generally? An unpleasant sight. Even worse news is that some sort of coded message was found. We decided to decode it and it turns out that it was a list of players. Next to some was written villager and some (or was it one? Maybe it was none?) was written wolf. Alas a careless intern "dropped" it into the fire and so we can't show it to you. Such a shame.

I think this makes it pretty clear

ImTheCrew · 02-14-2007, 10:15 AM

oh yes it does, thanks for the obvious

Jonathan Ezarik · 02-14-2007, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

I suggest the members of Howard look at GE's posts and see who he may have scanned.

I just read over his posts in our thread, but I don't see anything from him that hints at who he was scanning last night. As far as I know, the plan was to scan our old Helsing members (either Pass or Gramm) since Anxiety, KWhit, and I are going to be voted out.

Lathum · 02-14-2007, 10:25 AM

So was anything discussed in the OZ thread about the seers ability? For example, can the seer only scan his tribe members, etc...

Anything that can help us narrow down who may have been scanned.

ImTheCrew · 02-14-2007, 10:30 AM

i only know his first two scans, me and RA i was clean, he was found to be a wolf

Passacaglia · 02-14-2007, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

So was anything discussed in the OZ thread about the seers ability? For example, can the seer only scan his tribe members, etc...

Anything that can help us narrow down who may have been scanned.

I think this is a valid question at this point. We never asked you who the seer was, but we did ask if you knew who the seer was. That's a big difference in questions. At the time, you said you didn't know who the seer was. Want to change your answer?

Lathum · 02-14-2007, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ImTheCrew

i only know his first two scans, me and RA i was clean, he was found to be a wolf

how do you know you were scanned?

Passacaglia · 02-14-2007, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ImTheCrew

i only know his first two scans, me and RA i was clean, he was found to be a wolf

He scanned two people? And told you guys about it?

Lathum · 02-14-2007, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

I can understand why some of you guys would be irked.

This is what happened: our seer did not out RA. RA came out, for some reason, and said "I'm a wolf. But I can help your tribe win challenges." Then he said some other stuff. Naturally, we voted him out.

What he claimed:

1. The wolves could not communicate
2. He had tried to contact Lathum, and Lathum came up as not a wolf.

I personally do not believe he was telling the truth about both of those, and think it's possible he was lying about both.

Someone is lying.

Poli · 02-14-2007, 10:37 AM

Cronin is telling the truth.

ImTheCrew · 02-14-2007, 10:37 AM

RA admitted to being a wolf before GE said he scanned both of us

ImTheCrew · 02-14-2007, 10:39 AM

the post had been deleted im not really sure, what happend but they almost picked a new seer randomly and they didnt for some reason, i went to look back at him admitting maybe 15-20 mins after and they were gone.

GE posted that he could edit the post ( the one he admitted to being a seer) then barkeep corrected him a few minutes later then after that both post were gone.

Lathum · 02-14-2007, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ImTheCrew

RA admitted to being a wolf before GE said he scanned both of us

can a member of Oz confirm this?

ImTheCrew · 02-14-2007, 10:40 AM

cronin should be able to he brought the idea of a new random seer

Lathum · 02-14-2007, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ImTheCrew

the post had been deleted im not really sure, what happend but they almost picked a new seer randomly and they didnt for some reason, i went to look back at him admitting maybe 15-20 mins after and they were gone.

GE posted that he could edit the post ( the one he admitted to being a seer) then barkeep corrected him a few minutes later then after that both post were gone.

I know this is your first game so I hope it doesn't seem like I am cross examining you but this doesn't really add up. And I have yet to play a game where a post was deleted.

Something doesn't add up

ImTheCrew · 02-14-2007, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

He scanned two people? And told you guys about it?

he did b/c he thought he could edited later then barkeep told him he couldnt

ImTheCrew · 02-14-2007, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

I know this is your first game so I hope it doesn't seem like I am cross examining you but this doesn't really add up. And I have yet to play a game where a post was deleted.

Something doesn't add up

No not at all i thought it was wierd to maybe i just couldnt find it???? idk can the old oz members go back in look?

Jonathan Ezarik · 02-14-2007, 10:42 AM

I'm having a hard time keeping up with all of Oz's stories.

ImTheCrew · 02-14-2007, 10:44 AM

Cronin is Right but ge did admit later that he scanned myself and RA he also put a PS in his post saying this....

"PS: i can edited this per barkeep"

Passacaglia · 02-14-2007, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by ImTheCrew

RA admitted to being a wolf before GE said he scanned both of us

He scanned you both in one night?

Barkeep49 · 02-14-2007, 10:45 AM

GE and I had a misunderstanding. Based on that misunderstanding he came out as seer. It had been GE's intention to inform his tribe that he was the seer and then edit the post so that if anyone read it later they wouldn't know. Editing posts is still a no-no. In the end, in order to fix the misunderstanding a whole bunch of posts were deleted, to erase the evidence. That's the story

Poli · 02-14-2007, 10:47 AM

I feel a whole lot better about confirming this now...but sure makes me look BAD again. I told my new tribe it was a gut feeling.

Thanks, ITC.

Passacaglia · 02-14-2007, 10:47 AM

That story adds up to me. That was probably right around the time that Barkeep posted, reminding us that we can only edit a post for color, not for content. Sounds like Oz had to play with some screwy things going on. Maybe they knew that GE was the seer, but had to play it like they didn't know, because of that screw-up?

ImTheCrew · 02-14-2007, 10:47 AM

[quote=Jonathan Ezarik;1392463]I'm having a hard time keeping up with all of Oz's stories.[/quote

i had no part in the lathum or w/e happend there with the false scan, i missed all that never even found out why we did it either.

All i know is RA admitted to being a wolf, then soon after GE admitted to being a seer(it was deleted pretty quick so not many ozzites saw it but im pretty sure cronin made comments after that about it so he should be able to back me up on this"

ImTheCrew · 02-14-2007, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

That story adds up to me. That was probably right around the time that Barkeep posted, reminding us that we can only edit a post for color, not for content. Sounds like Oz had to play with some screwy things going on. Maybe they knew that GE was the seer, but had to play it like they didn't know, because of that screw-up?

it was

ImTheCrew · 02-14-2007, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

He scanned you both in one night?

No i believe he said night 1 was me night 2 was RA, but it might be the other way around

Poli · 02-14-2007, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

That story adds up to me. That was probably right around the time that Barkeep posted, reminding us that we can only edit a post for color, not for content. Sounds like Oz had to play with some screwy things going on. Maybe they knew that GE was the seer, but had to play it like they didn't know, because of that screw-up?

Ding.

ImTheCrew · 02-14-2007, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

I feel a whole lot better about confirming this now...but sure makes me look BAD again. I told my new tribe it was a gut feeling.

Thanks, ITC.

Sorry

Poli · 02-14-2007, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ImTheCrew

No i believe he said night 1 was me night 2 was RA, but it might be the other way around

It was the other way around.

Jonathan Ezarik · 02-14-2007, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by SnDvls

this could also point to a conversion and it was in Oz...just a thought.

Hello? This is what I was screaming about yesterday. I hope now you all will stop taking it on faith that Oz is free of wolves.

02-14-2007, 09:35 AM	#2055
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Cheating is possible in any game. Because of the more unusual restrictions here I think people are thinking about it more. I maintain my stance that most people around here are honest. If GE, or other people, have solid evidence of cheating ala Tyrith, which of course turned out to be more of a gray than clear cut case of cheating, please let me know. Otherwise I'd encourage people to play the game. Last edited by Barkeep49 : 02-14-2007 at 09:36 AM.

02-14-2007, 09:49 AM	#2067
GoldenEagle Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Little Rock, AR	I will hold my reservations until after the game. __________________ Xbox 360 Gamer Tag: GoldenEagle014

02-14-2007, 10:25 AM	#2074
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	So was anything discussed in the OZ thread about the seers ability? For example, can the seer only scan his tribe members, etc... Anything that can help us narrow down who may have been scanned. Last edited by Lathum : 02-14-2007 at 10:25 AM.

02-14-2007, 10:37 AM	#2080
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Cronin is telling the truth. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

02-14-2007, 10:40 AM	#2084
ImTheCrew High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2007	cronin should be able to he brought the idea of a new random seer Last edited by ImTheCrew : 02-14-2007 at 10:40 AM.

02-14-2007, 09:32 AM	#2052
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	If I had to guess I think he means he was the seer ( pretty obvious) and he was the first one killed. I am also assuming the fact he was the seer was discussed in OZ's thread at some point and he feels one of the wolves was reading the Oz thread and shouldn't have been, hence him being the first wolf target.

02-14-2007, 09:33 AM	#2053
ImTheCrew High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2007	or one of the oz told some one

02-14-2007, 09:36 AM	#2056
ImTheCrew High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2007	i was refering that someone in hesling tribe let it out, because i know that the howard tribe did not

02-14-2007, 09:36 AM	#2057
ImTheCrew High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2007	the new howard and hesling

02-14-2007, 09:39 AM	#2058
ImTheCrew High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2007	just a possiblity

02-14-2007, 09:40 AM	#2059
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	Barkeep, Is the goal to use the most letters or make the most words (using letters only once)? Your instructions says both at different points.

02-14-2007, 09:41 AM	#2061
ImTheCrew High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2007	and how did everyone know that GE was the SEER?

02-14-2007, 09:57 AM	#2068
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	I think the list in the fire makes it obvious. I also think from the write up GE found a wolf

02-14-2007, 09:58 AM	#2069
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	I suggest the members of Howard look at GE's posts and see who he may have scanned.

02-14-2007, 10:15 AM	#2072
ImTheCrew High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2007	oh yes it does, thanks for the obvious

02-14-2007, 10:30 AM	#2075
ImTheCrew High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2007	i only know his first two scans, me and RA i was clean, he was found to be a wolf

02-14-2007, 10:37 AM	#2081
ImTheCrew High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2007	RA admitted to being a wolf before GE said he scanned both of us

02-14-2007, 10:39 AM	#2082
ImTheCrew High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2007	the post had been deleted im not really sure, what happend but they almost picked a new seer randomly and they didnt for some reason, i went to look back at him admitting maybe 15-20 mins after and they were gone. GE posted that he could edit the post ( the one he admitted to being a seer) then barkeep corrected him a few minutes later then after that both post were gone.

02-14-2007, 10:42 AM	#2088
Jonathan Ezarik College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bossier City, LA	I'm having a hard time keeping up with all of Oz's stories.

02-14-2007, 10:44 AM	#2089
ImTheCrew High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2007	Cronin is Right but ge did admit later that he scanned myself and RA he also put a PS in his post saying this.... "PS: i can edited this per barkeep"

02-14-2007, 10:45 AM	#2091
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	GE and I had a misunderstanding. Based on that misunderstanding he came out as seer. It had been GE's intention to inform his tribe that he was the seer and then edit the post so that if anyone read it later they wouldn't know. Editing posts is still a no-no. In the end, in order to fix the misunderstanding a whole bunch of posts were deleted, to erase the evidence. That's the story

02-14-2007, 10:47 AM	#2092
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	I feel a whole lot better about confirming this now...but sure makes me look BAD again. I told my new tribe it was a gut feeling. Thanks, ITC. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

02-14-2007, 10:47 AM	#2093
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	That story adds up to me. That was probably right around the time that Barkeep posted, reminding us that we can only edit a post for color, not for content. Sounds like Oz had to play with some screwy things going on. Maybe they knew that GE was the seer, but had to play it like they didn't know, because of that screw-up?

02-14-2007, 10:47 AM	#2094
ImTheCrew High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2007	[quote=Jonathan Ezarik;1392463]I'm having a hard time keeping up with all of Oz's stories.[/quote i had no part in the lathum or w/e happend there with the false scan, i missed all that never even found out why we did it either. All i know is RA admitted to being a wolf, then soon after GE admitted to being a seer(it was deleted pretty quick so not many ozzites saw it but im pretty sure cronin made comments after that about it so he should be able to back me up on this"

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