WW LXVII -- The Return of Divination Nation! (GAME OVER STUDENTS WIN!!!)

[MikeVic]

If it was tied or I was going to get lynched, SnDvls was going either way.

[Mr. Wednesday]

Hmm. "The trauma of the lynch gave him amnesia."

Does that mean we're not getting any info out of him?

[MikeVic]

I'm useless as a scan. SnDvls had a 61% accuracy or something I believe as well, which is mildly helpful I think.

[MikeVic]

That's what I read it as too Mr. W.

[Mr. Wednesday]

I'm not going to bother scanning. My accuracy to date has been about 50/50, and without info from a math wiz indicating that it's significantly higher or lower than that, we can't deduce anything from it.

[Mr. Wednesday]

Dola, and I'm now significantly less sanguine about Barkeep as a villager.

[mauchow]

I realize that my initial attempts at saving initiated other things to happen so I actually lost my ability to swing another vote, so that sucks.

[Mr. Wednesday]

Wait, mau, you tried to do something too?

[MikeVic]

Maybe one of our swings did the vote thing, and the other did the wolf spy thing?

[mauchow]

Yeah, I was going to swing a gut feeling and knock out sndvls.

[SnDvls]

Mr. W you rang?

I'm on for about 5 mins (have a raging headache in real life and on here)

[SnDvls]

if I had to vote right now I'd vote ntn

[mauchow]

I'd prolly vote Jackal, but that's just me. There aren't many people in the CoT anymore. I know I'm still in it, I know Sndvls is in it, and also MikeVic. 100%!

Anybody other than us three I'm going to question a little bit more now. Jackal being one of the tops, barkeep right after, ntn...

Who am I missing?

[Mr. Wednesday]

Originally Posted by SnDvls

if I had to vote right now I'd vote ntn

Can you go into any more detail on this?

[ntndeacon]

sorry about missing the vote. I thought I would get home to cast my vote and was later than I thought.

[path12]

Your spirits are buoyed by the events of today, though it is bothersome about that amnesia of SnDvls. You sleep a little sounder tonight. Especially mauboy1, who won't be waking up, having had his throat slashed in the night.

MAUBOY1, A STUDENT, HAS BEEN KILLED. DAY 8 IS UNDERWAY. DEADLINE IS 9PM EST TONIGHT.

[mauchow]

Oh bite me.

[claphamsa]

WOW!

[X]- BRains!

[Pumpy Tudors]

Originally Posted by mauboy1

Oh bite me.

lol

[SnDvls]

vote ntn

it's a pretty bad move to stay out of a close vote

[The Jackal]

Alright, I can FINALLY reveal my role.

I'm the lone wolf. I wasn't on the wolves' team at the beginning of the game, we had to find each other. On N3 cronin found me and I found render, so either way I was on their team. Little did they know that I'm not an actual wolf, but a spy. Hell if I know why path put two spy possibilities in the game, but there you are.

NTN is the last wolf, aside from me. I don't know why he missed the vote yesterday, we were in contact but then he sort of disappeared, and had said he was hoping the villagers would just seal it for themselves, leaving it up to me and SnD to control the vote. We knew that SnD had a chance of living even after he was lynched, so we thought we were in pretty good shape.

We were ecstatic when NTN was cleared by olie (as he always scans good, even if the TP or CC scanned him), because it meant he wouldn't be suspected the rest of the game. Well, he didn't know I'm a backstabbing little spy!

Here are your options:

1. We can kill NTN right now and the game is won - I show up as a wolf in all scans, but I count as a student in the final ratio.

2. If you are skeptical, you can kill me tonight, find out I'm the lone wolf, and then you can kill NTN tomorrow, as the ratio would be down to 3-1 with the night kill, which wouldn't put you in bad shape at all.

Problem with the second option is that there have been so many twists and turns in this game, I wouldn't put it over path's head to have something else crazy happen.

I don't know what the deal with SnD's amnesia is, he's clearly fingered NTN but he hasn't been able to actually say he's a wolf.

So there you are, let's finish this!

Vote NTN

[ntndeacon]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

Alright, I can FINALLY reveal my role.

I'm the lone wolf. I wasn't on the wolves' team at the beginning of the game, we had to find each other. On N3 cronin found me and I found render, so either way I was on their team. Little did they know that I'm not an actual wolf, but a spy. Hell if I know why path put two spy possibilities in the game, but there you are.

NTN is the last wolf, aside from me. I don't know why he missed the vote yesterday, we were in contact but then he sort of disappeared, and had said he was hoping the villagers would just seal it for themselves, leaving it up to me and SnD to control the vote. We knew that SnD had a chance of living even after he was lynched, so we thought we were in pretty good shape.

We were ecstatic when NTN was cleared by olie (as he always scans good, even if the TP or CC scanned him), because it meant he wouldn't be suspected the rest of the game. Well, he didn't know I'm a backstabbing little spy!

Here are your options:

1. We can kill NTN right now and the game is won - I show up as a wolf in all scans, but I count as a student in the final ratio.

2. If you are skeptical, you can kill me tonight, find out I'm the lone wolf, and then you can kill NTN tomorrow, as the ratio would be down to 3-1 with the night kill, which wouldn't put you in bad shape at all.

Problem with the second option is that there have been so many twists and turns in this game, I wouldn't put it over path's head to have something else crazy happen.

I don't know what the deal with SnD's amnesia is, he's clearly fingered NTN but he hasn't been able to actually say he's a wolf.

So there you are, let's finish this!

Vote NTN

Let me see if Iunderstand this. TheJackal's arguement is something like "I am a wolf and ntn is a wolf even though he was cleared. You can trust me."
To channel Render:: don't trust a revealed wolf.

Vote TheJackal

[The Jackal]

Ugh, first thing in the morning and I made a mistake. Olie didn't clear him, CR did. Let me get that fact straight before people notice it. And I said he always scanned good, but that's not true, for the CR he scanned the opposite so that he'd turn up good, if that makes sense to you guys.

And people already pretty much knew I was a wolf, NTN.

[MikeVic]

Oh geez. I don't know what to think.

[The Jackal]

FYI, I'm about to start a 12 hour workday, but I'll try to get on the site as often as possible if people have questions for me.

[The Jackal]

Inhaling paint fumes at work is not pleasant...

[MikeVic]

Yeah, those wolf senses must make it even harder.

[ntndeacon]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

Ugh, first thing in the morning and I made a mistake. Olie didn't clear him, CR did. Let me get that fact straight before people notice it. And I said he always scanned good, but that's not true, for the CR he scanned the opposite so that he'd turn up good, if that makes sense to you guys.

And people already pretty much knew I was a wolf, NTN.

I was more reminding people how we as a community have gotten burned listening and acting upon reveals made by wolves that announce that fact. The channeling of Render is still in effect.


Rule #1 Do NOT trust a known wolf
Rule #2 See Rule # 1

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by MikeVic

Yeah, those wolf senses must make it even harder.

They do.. it's melting off my fake fur.

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by ntndeacon

I was more reminding people how we as a community have gotten burned listening and acting upon reveals made by wolves that announce that fact. The channeling of Render is still in effect.


Rule #1 Do NOT trust a known wolf
Rule #2 See Rule # 1

Well, I haven't been part of the community long enough to get burned by wolf reveals, but I can imagine there have been plenty of wolves who have fake revealed. Hell, villagers fake reveal to try and nail people they think are wolves. I don't expect the students to listen to me, but I'm just laying the truth out there for you all. Lynch NTN and the game is over, lynch me and you'll have to deal with this mess yourselves tomorrow.

[RendeR]

I heart NTNDeacon.

[Mr. Wednesday]

My update of Chief Rum's night 0 post to include the missing scan announcements...

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Updated through post #173:

claphamsa (2 V/ 0 W)-- Lathum (V; 90), oliegirl (V; 96)
Pumpy Tudors (3 V/ 0 W)-- claphamsa (V; 92 & 103), ntndeacon (V; 133), Passacaglia (V; 170)
Mr. Wednesday (1 V/ 0 W)-- Barkeep49 (V; 97)
saldana (2 V / 0 W)-- nfg22 (V; 98), bsak16
Greyroofoo (3 V / 0 W)-- MikeVic (V; 101), jeheinz72, st.cronin
nfg22 (1 V / 0 W)-- mauboy1 (V; 102)
Chief Rum (1 V / 0 W)-- SnDvls (V; 111)
Lathum (2 V / 0 W)-- Chief Rum (V; 113), Pumpy Tudors
bsak16 (1 V / 0 W)-- Render (V; 119)
MikeVic (2 V / 0 W)-- The Jackal (V; 122), Dodgerchick (V; 156)
Dodgerchick (1 V / 0 W)-- Greyroofoo (V; 141)
Passacaglia (1 V / 0 W)-- Mr. Wednesday (V; 164)
jeheinz72 (1V / 0 W)-- saldana

Not a scan target yet (8): Barkeep49, Render, mauboy1, ntndeacon, oliegirl, st.cronin, The Jackal, SnDvls

It's remarkable that all of our night 0 scans have proven to be accurate (including the Class Clown's) with all of the wolves appearing in the unscanned pool. If only we'd known...

[Mr. Wednesday]

I'm pulling up Chief's scanning history, but I gotta run for a while right now. I'll get back to it when I get back.

[ntndeacon]

Originally Posted by RendeR

I heart NTNDeacon.

See we do listen occasionally.

[ntndeacon]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

Lynch NTN and the game is over, lynch me and you'll have to deal with this mess yourselves tomorrow.

By the way this is probably an accurate statement, especially if there are 2 wolves left. If the convince you to kill me today, then they will off another student tonoght, and then will be at a 2-2 tie. and will thus win.

[The Jackal]

Well, it doesn't matter ntn because even if they don't believe me, you'll be 1 v 3 tomorrow. I'm not sure if you've answered this.. But -where- were you last night? Kind of screwed up the whole plan, though any plan went out the window with that conversion.

[SnDvls]

Originally Posted by Mr. Wednesday

My update of Chief Rum's night 0 post to include the missing scan announcements...


It's remarkable that all of our night 0 scans have proven to be accurate (including the Class Clown's) with all of the wolves appearing in the unscanned pool. If only we'd known...

Wasn't CR the class clown?

[SnDvls]

dola - I forgot who it was

[SnDvls]

double dola - both in real life and in game "amnesia"

[MikeVic]

Yeah CR is the class clown.

[MikeVic]

Originally Posted by Mr. Wednesday

My update of Chief Rum's night 0 post to include the missing scan announcements...


It's remarkable that all of our night 0 scans have proven to be accurate (including the Class Clown's) with all of the wolves appearing in the unscanned pool. If only we'd known...

That is very interesting.

[MikeVic]

I'm leaning towards Jackal. Anyone have opinions?

[ntndeacon]

well since he admits to being a wolf, let's take him up on it and get him out of here. Off with the Wolfie's head

[SnDvls]

Originally Posted by MikeVic

Yeah CR is the class clown.

then his night 0 scan ment nothing as he scanned Lathum as a villager which he was.

[Mr. Wednesday]

I'm positing that the N0 scans meant rather a lot, but we couldn't take advantage of that because we didn't actually know. I think it was path12 screwing with us.

[SnDvls]

Originally Posted by Mr. Wednesday

I'm positing that the N0 scans meant rather a lot, but we couldn't take advantage of that because we didn't actually know. I think it was path12 screwing with us.

that may be the case overall, but CR's night 0 scan showed Lathum as a villager...if he was the class clown it should have shown him as a wolf correct?

[MikeVic]

I'll be around here and there. But right now my vote goes on Jackal just in case I don't make it back.

VOTE JACKAL

[Mr. Wednesday]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

We were ecstatic when NTN was cleared by olie (as he always scans good, even if the TP or CC scanned him), because it meant he wouldn't be suspected the rest of the game. Well, he didn't know I'm a backstabbing little spy!

This is complete bollocks.

a) ntn was scanned as a wolf by the Class Clown, not oliegirl
b) ntn was scanned as a student by MikeVic

If there was an always-scan mechanic, I would expect it to return the same for the Class Clown.

VOTE The Jackal

[Mr. Wednesday]

CR scanned ntndeacon as a wolf in post 1672, which is on p.56 for me.
MikeVic scanned ntndeacon as a student in post 1862, which is on p.63 for me. (As an aside, I'm very grateful that you went ahead with that even though he was in the CoT, because it somewhat debunks The Jackal's story.)

[MikeVic]

We need multiple scans on everyone. Good enough logic for me on the Jackal vote. I'll stick with it.