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Old 10-30-2006, 10:39 PM   #2101
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If we knock Umbrella down to equal with the zombies, they HAVE to cooperate to get rid of a zombie at some point.

Agreed. I think our best bet remains on SnDvls lynch. If they don't cooperate tomorrow, zombies win. Why would they let the zombies win?
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Old 10-30-2006, 10:41 PM   #2102
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Maybe when we're all equal we would. But if this vote sticks, we will be down to two members each of Umbrella and STARS. Zombies will go for the big dogs on the block, since you can do a lot of damage in a vote (plus the most damaging roles are currently held by STARS). We will have to go for you, because after we go to two, we can't afford to kill off a zombie and move you closer to a win with three remaining members.

Pardon me, we will be down to two members each of Umbrella and zombies. Sorry for the confusion. Now is not the time to have to waste repeating myself in posts for corrections purposes.
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Old 10-30-2006, 10:42 PM   #2103
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Agreed. I think our best bet remains on SnDvls lynch. If they don't cooperate tomorrow, zombies win. Why would they let the zombies win?

Well, we wouldn't be trying to have the zombies win. We would be trying to bring things equal so we could still have a chance for ourselves. Killing STARS tomorrow would be better for us then zombies, especially since we know who the second zombie is.
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Old 10-30-2006, 10:42 PM   #2104
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I say we take out the Umbrella. If Chief is telling the truth, we still have as good a chance to win the game as any other faction. If Chief is bluffing about either the number of Zombies or the numbers of his faction then we are in a strong position in this game.

If Umbrella and Zombies combine for five votes they could already work in conjunction to take this vote away from us, now that the Umbrella have confirmed four STARS.

I don't buy it. My vote stays where it is.
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Old 10-30-2006, 10:42 PM   #2105
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hoops, do you have any thoughts?
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Old 10-30-2006, 10:42 PM   #2106
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Guys, Chief is flat out freaking lying! He probably scanned me, but he is lying to you about what he found out.

If he is umbrella, he is trying to reduce the number of STARS.
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Old 10-30-2006, 10:44 PM   #2107
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Bloody hell.

STARS, look, Umbrella is trying to alter the course of the game today. We need to vote Dodgerchick to take out a zombie.

You guys will see when I turn out STARS.
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Old 10-30-2006, 10:44 PM   #2108
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I'm not moving either. STARS still has some fight in them.
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Old 10-30-2006, 10:44 PM   #2109
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Does the Umbrella play make sense if it's 5-2-2?
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Old 10-30-2006, 10:45 PM   #2110
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Guys, Chief is flat out freaking lying! He probably scanned me, but he is lying to you about what he found out.

If he is umbrella, he is trying to reduce the number of STARS.

Dude, after last night's play, I wouldn't expect any different from you. You're playing brilliantly. But this has to be where it ends. Good going.
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Old 10-30-2006, 10:46 PM   #2111
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Sure, if they can preserve their own membership today and get us to lynch a STARS in the process then they have a good shot at being 3-2-2 going into tomorrow.
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Old 10-30-2006, 10:46 PM   #2112
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Does the Umbrella play make sense if it's 5-2-2?

It makes a lot of sense at 5-2-2. Going down to 1 member pretty much ends the game for them.
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Old 10-30-2006, 10:46 PM   #2113
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Since I am STARS, I am going to vote with my faction-mates.

UNVOTE Dodgerchick
VOTE SnDvls
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Old 10-30-2006, 10:46 PM   #2114
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Shit, well, I tried. I don't know what's going to happen tomorrow, but I am certain a STARS will die tonight, and then we'll have to see where we are.
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Old 10-30-2006, 10:47 PM   #2115
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Dude, after last night's play, I wouldn't expect any different from you. You're playing brilliantly. But this has to be where it ends. Good going.

You've done a helluva job muddying the water tonight, that's for sure.
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Old 10-30-2006, 10:47 PM   #2116
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Chief, perhaps you can talk the two Zombies to join the three Umbrella on a candidate of your choice?

STARS - do not move your votes. Let them show us that they have the five members that Chief says are out there.
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Old 10-30-2006, 10:47 PM   #2117
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Since I am STARS, I am going to vote with my faction-mates.

UNVOTE Dodgerchick
VOTE SnDvls

Damn, Mr STARS wasn't even in with you guys until now! I didn't even see that.
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Old 10-30-2006, 10:47 PM   #2118
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Shit, well, I tried. I don't know what's going to happen tomorrow, but I am certain a STARS will die tonight, and then we'll have to see where we are.

STARS is going to die tonight because we're voting to lynch Umbrella when we should be lynching Dodgerchick.
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Old 10-30-2006, 10:48 PM   #2119
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Chief, perhaps you can talk the two Zombies to join the three Umbrella on a candidate of your choice?

STARS - do not move your votes. Let them show us that they have the five members that Chief says are out there.

Zombies ain't going to switch to lynch their own.
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Old 10-30-2006, 10:51 PM   #2120
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STARS is going to die tonight because we're voting to lynch Umbrella when we should be lynching Dodgerchick.

STARS is going to die tonight, regardless, and you know it better than anyone. Why would you waste a kill on Umbrella? We'll be down to two. I suppose you could kill me, but that leaves the STARS bodyguard, IA and sniper out there. I can put two and two together just fine to see what you and your cohort will do tonight.
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Old 10-30-2006, 10:51 PM   #2121
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Old 10-30-2006, 10:52 PM   #2122
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Chief, perhaps you can talk the two Zombies to join the three Umbrella on a candidate of your choice?

STARS - do not move your votes. Let them show us that they have the five members that Chief says are out there.

Good point. According to Chief, they have the numbers right now!
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Old 10-30-2006, 10:55 PM   #2123
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Good point. According to Chief, they have the numbers right now!

There's little incentive for the zombies to work with us right now. We can't communicate with them any more than you can. You have focused on SnDvls, and they don't apparently mind that. They also wouldn't have minded if a STARS member goes down. They only care if one of their own is on the block.
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Old 10-30-2006, 10:56 PM   #2124
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Hmm, I would think that they would prefer, all things being equal, to take out the faction with the largest numbers.

And us poor STARS, with only four people, would be powerless to stop your two factions' combined voting might.
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Old 10-30-2006, 10:57 PM   #2125
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By the way, good job catching yourself on the Fouts' reveal list - made it so I actually had to think about whether you were lying or not.
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Old 10-30-2006, 10:58 PM   #2126
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2 minutes, i guess nothing is going to change
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Old 10-30-2006, 10:58 PM   #2127
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Old 10-30-2006, 10:59 PM   #2128
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Hmm, I would think that they would prefer, all things being equal, to take out the faction with the largest numbers.

And us poor STARS, with only four people, would be powerless to stop your two factions' combined voting might.

You will have three after tonight. Not so much voting power there.
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Old 10-30-2006, 10:59 PM   #2129
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Fouts, that damn guest is back again!
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Old 10-30-2006, 11:00 PM   #2130
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By the way, good job catching yourself on the Fouts' reveal list - made it so I actually had to think about whether you were lying or not.

That was just pure stupidity. I got in a rush because I realized how little time I had left and didn't properly take in Fouts' list. I saw the 'S' and jumped. Pretty stupid, too, because I read the list last night and do remember it was SnDvls on there now.
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Old 10-30-2006, 11:00 PM   #2131
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Old 10-30-2006, 11:02 PM   #2132
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Chief, perhaps you can talk the two Zombies to join the three Umbrella on a candidate of your choice?

STARS - do not move your votes. Let them show us that they have the five members that Chief says are out there.

ain't gonna happen I pm'ed them an said let me fall

umbrella will win this game
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Old 10-30-2006, 11:02 PM   #2133
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Crap.
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Old 10-30-2006, 11:02 PM   #2134
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Chubby, can we safely assume that if a seer views a convert tonight (Night 5) that they will show up as Zombie instead of as their original faction?
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Old 10-30-2006, 11:02 PM   #2135
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1 or 2 of these are zombies: spleen, DC, Brian.

Thoughts?
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Old 10-30-2006, 11:03 PM   #2136
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ain't gonna happen I pm'ed them an said let me fall

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Nice, you pretty much kiboshed your own faction. Good going.
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Old 10-30-2006, 11:04 PM   #2137
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1 or 2 of these are zombies: spleen, DC, Brian.

Thoughts?

I had thought Spleen was zombie today, so I think you are probably right.
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Old 10-30-2006, 11:04 PM   #2138
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1 or 2 of these are zombies: spleen, DC, Brian.

Thoughts?

Brian only makes sense in a Spleen/Brian duo.
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Old 10-30-2006, 11:04 PM   #2139
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After another exciting evening the city experiences a pretty boring day, it's decided that SnDvls who claimed to be Umbrella but cut off from his partners would be the one who would be executed tonight.

SnDvls was lead out to the center of the town square blindfolded without a struggle. Somewhat anti climaticaly the executioner aims his shotgun and fires three times in SnDvls, dropping him to the ground.

The coroner comes over to administer the blood test and it comes back negative as was expected. He also removes SnDvl's red and white ring from his hand as he closes up the body bag.

Night Five Ends Tues 9am EST
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Old 10-30-2006, 11:05 PM   #2140
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Nice, you pretty much kiboshed your own faction. Good going.

should have given me more info today
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Old 10-30-2006, 11:05 PM   #2141
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Chubby, can we safely assume that if a seer views a convert tonight (Night 5) that they will show up as Zombie instead of as their original faction?

Since that person is now a zombie, they will show up as zombie.

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Old 10-30-2006, 11:05 PM   #2142
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We should have lynched Dodgerchick to take away the ability for 2 zombie kills.
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Old 10-30-2006, 11:06 PM   #2143
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Chubby, what happens if an umbrella gets converted? Do they get to PM with both factions?
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Old 10-30-2006, 11:06 PM   #2144
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Brian only makes sense in a Spleen/Brian duo.

Yes. If there are two, it is spleen/Brian.
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Old 10-30-2006, 11:07 PM   #2145
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Umbrella + Zombie did not have the numbers to move on us tonight. That strongly leads me to believe we have at least five people heading into the night.

With that consideration, Spleen looks marginally better to me.

Dodgerchick remains the odd person out - nothing so far in this game has pointed towards her being part of STARS.
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Old 10-30-2006, 11:08 PM   #2146
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SnDvls was the Umbrella bodyguard. A good reason to save him.
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Old 10-30-2006, 11:08 PM   #2147
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Hey, Did anyone do a blood test on me?
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Old 10-30-2006, 11:09 PM   #2148
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Yes. If there are two, it is spleen/Brian.

Could potentially be Spleen/DC, but I don't see any way for a DC/Brian pairing.
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Old 10-30-2006, 11:09 PM   #2149
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Hey, Did anyone do a blood test on me?

I'm not getting near you.
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Old 10-30-2006, 11:09 PM   #2150
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Chubby, what happens if an umbrella gets converted? Do they get to PM with both factions?

Yes. Otherwise, it would be a dead giveaway if they were all of a sudden not allowed to PM other Umbrella members.
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