WW XCIII - Mine Wars - Battle of Blair Mountain - SYMPATHIZERS WIN!!! - Page 43

Lathum · 05-04-2009, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glengoyne

You speak as if you know there is a mechanic where a sympathizer, I want to type wolf, can fake their work. As far as I've seen that hasn't happened. So you're telling us that you know that for a fact?

Perhaps in a PM you've received?

Sympathizers can fake their work. You probably glossed over that when catching up, certainly can't blame you for missing a few things

Glengoyne · 05-04-2009, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny

Glen, I'm pretty sure Abe said the wolves could fake their work and if not we all have been working off that assumption all game long, so I don't think saying that means anything.

Well if that is the case, I'll stop patting myself on the back, and retract my snide comment to Dubb.

I thought there was some conjecture on that point, but didn't think that Abe had stated it.

dubb93 · 05-04-2009, 06:04 PM

fuck this, two people on me know I'm not a wolf. They have both counted on my work going through. You guys are either potential wolfs or villagers knowing you aren't helping.

Unwork Gladhandling

If you think I'm a wolf quit counting on my work. It's like saying "I want rid of Dubb even though I know he's a villager so I'll count on his work getting done."

Vote Jeheinz

Barkeep49 · 05-04-2009, 06:05 PM

I need to know where to work. I should have had oodles of free time today, but instead have not had three seconds to myself since 7 AM. Please tell me where to work.

Poli · 05-04-2009, 06:07 PM

BK, do oratory. Knock yourself out.

*this is not an official proclamation for you to do said work.

Barkeep49 · 05-04-2009, 06:08 PM

work oratory

Danny · 05-04-2009, 06:11 PM

I'm still holding my vote for the moment, but there still is the best case against Dubb, so my vote will likely be headed there too.

Barkeep49 · 05-04-2009, 06:11 PM

Pretty sure I posted this a lot lot earlier, but

Vote dubb

Danny · 05-04-2009, 06:17 PM

Vote Dubb

Danny · 05-04-2009, 06:18 PM

I think that makes it 5-2-1-1 since I'm pretty sure Barkeep voted earlier.

claphamsa · 05-04-2009, 06:32 PM

wow, thats a lot of votes on dubb..... he seems the same as last game... he was good then right? certainly is entertaining :P

Danny · 05-04-2009, 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by claphamsa

wow, thats a lot of votes on dubb..... he seems the same as last game... he was good then right? certainly is entertaining :P

I think almost all the votes are from people who have been cleared or scanned as good (other than me)

dubb93 · 05-04-2009, 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny

I think almost all the votes are from people who have been cleared or scanned as good (other than me)

I actually think you have ass backwards. The correct way of saying it would have been the only cleared person to vote me is Barkeep. Every that is clear except Barkeep is voting elsewhere.

dubb93 · 05-04-2009, 06:43 PM

Dubb - Barkeep, PB, Glen, Heinz, USFL, Danny (6)
PB - EF, Lathum (2)
Clap - Poli (1)
Jeheinz - Dubb (1)

dubb93 · 05-04-2009, 06:43 PM

Vote Danny for Mr. Misinformation

Chief Rum · 05-04-2009, 06:48 PM

I am of half of a mind to vote for dubb out of spite, because he's being a complete tool right now.

That said, his play reminds me of when I am annoyed at not being a wolf and yet targeted for uncertain reasons.

So I am going to throw my vote on PB and see what develops from a closer vote.

VOTE PURDUEBRAD

Oh, and if, dubb, you keep your work off through the deadline and you're a villager, I will make it my goal to see you voted out first in every game we play together.

Danny · 05-04-2009, 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubb93

Vote Danny for Mr. Misinformation

Thank you for the current vote list. Obviously I was not correct.

Danny · 05-04-2009, 06:54 PM

So we're at 6-3 now with Dubb able to switch off and make it 6-4.

Yet to vote looks to be NTN, The Norm, DaddyTorgo, Lathum and Render

dubb93 · 05-04-2009, 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny

So we're at 6-3 now with Dubb able to switch off and make it 6-4.

Yet to vote looks to be NTN, The Norm, DaddyTorgo, Lathum and Render

Lathum already voted and I believe Norm said he most likely will not be back by deadline.

EagleFan · 05-04-2009, 06:56 PM

As of 2116:

Patrolling: Chief Rum x3 (1926), Poli (1951), USFLTecomo X3 (1958), RendeR (1965), TheNorm (2091) (9/10)
Food Distribution: Danny x3 (1900), EagleFan x3 (1901), Lathum x3 (2023) (9/10)
Gladhandling: claphamsa x3 (1939), jeheinz72 x3 (1952) (6/10)
Oratory: PurdueBrad x3 (1938), DaddyTorgo (1946), Glengoyne (1996), Barkeep49 (2106) (6/10)

PurdueBrad 3 - EagleFan (1915). Lathum (2059), Chief Rum (2116)
dubb93 6 - Barkeep49 (1942), PurdueBrad (1949), Glengoyne (1988), jeheinz72 (2084), USFLTecmo (2097), Danny (2109)
claphamsa 1 - Poli (2034)
jeheinz72 1 - dubb93 (2103)

no work order: ntndeacon, dubb93

no vote: claphamsa, ntndeacon, TheNorm, DaddyTorgo, RendeR

EagleFan · 05-04-2009, 07:01 PM

Crazy theory... dubb and PB are wolves and PB is the cunning. dubb trying to draw the heat hoping PB gets scanned and cleared?

dubb certainly isn't helping his arguement with his "if I can't play I'm taking my stuff and going home" attitude.

What is the deal with people and these tantrums lately? It's a freaking game. If it's just a ploy as a wolf that's one thing but if it's a serious tantrum by a villager being voted against that is pretty sad. You do realize that you still win with the village if you are voted out? In fact the village could learn somthing by you getting voted out as a villager but not i you brin on the heat yourself by acting like that.

Danny · 05-04-2009, 07:05 PM

Regardless of the lynch, I think we are looking strong on the work we are doing. Just keep in mind an arrest is likely to come tomorrow, so we'll have to factor that in. Assuming Dubb and NTN do work on Oratory and glad handling split we have

Patrolling 9
Food Distribution 9
Gladhandling 7
Oratory 7

I don't see anyone faking today.

Then tomorrow assuming they arrest let's say Claphamsa and they night kill EagleFan. That means we could have CR and Torgo on Patrolling, will surely finish it off. Then we can have Lathum and myself on Food dist which will finish that off.

Then we will have Jeheinz, Glen, BK, NTN on Gladhandling which unless there are two wolves will finish if off.

Then on oratory we can have PB, Render, Poli and USFL which gives likely enough to finish there even if someone fakes.

This is meant to lay it out, who exactly goes where can be changed.

The biggest risk to our work is if PB is bad. And that's one reason why I don't mind lynching Dubb over him. If he is bad, it will at least keep him from faking work today or outing himself for sure.

Danny · 05-04-2009, 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny

I don't see anyone faking today.

Except if he is the wolf

Danny · 05-04-2009, 07:07 PM

Dubb that is

EagleFan · 05-04-2009, 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny

Regardless of the lynch, I think we are looking strong on the work we are doing. Just keep in mind an arrest is likely to come tomorrow, so we'll have to factor that in. Assuming Dubb and NTN do work on Oratory and glad handling split we have

Patrolling 9
Food Distribution 9
Gladhandling 7
Oratory 7

I don't see anyone faking today.

Then tomorrow assuming they arrest let's say Claphamsa and they night kill EagleFan. That means we could have CR and Torgo on Patrolling, will surely finish it off. Then we can have Lathum and myself on Food dist which will finish that off.

Then we will have Jeheinz, Glen, BK, NTN on Gladhandling which unless there are two wolves will finish if off.

Then on oratory we can have PB, Render, Poli and USFL which gives likely enough to finish there even if someone fakes.

This is meant to lay it out, who exactly goes where can be changed.

The biggest risk to our work is if PB is bad. And that's one reason why I don't mind lynching Dubb over him. If he is bad, it will at least keep him from faking work today or outing himself for sure.

Don't go giving them ideas...

Actually, they can bring it. I'm prepared byaches!!!!!!

RendeR · 05-04-2009, 07:18 PM

I'm torn.

I know exactly how frustrating it is when someone gets a run going on me when I'm a villager and I can't offer anything substantial to slow it down, so on that count I understand precisely why Dubb would act this way.

On the other hand, this is PRECISELY how I would act if I were a wolf caught in the noose.

Whats the issue on PB? I mean other than his name is PB and he's always a good vote?

Lathum · 05-04-2009, 07:21 PM

Why isn't Dubb voting PB?

Glengoyne · 05-04-2009, 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny

I think almost all the votes are from people who have been cleared or scanned as good (other than me)

I'm sure Dubb has pointed this out, but I'm certainly not cleared. I was looking for a place to put my vote, and I don't see any candidate as good as Dubb. The case wasn't iron clad, but I've not seen anything better.

I earlier asked if the case against PB could be laid out to be as strong as Dubb's, but I haven't seen that. So I'm stuck with my vote where it is.

dubb93 · 05-04-2009, 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

Why isn't Dubb voting PB?

PB isn't my top choice. Still time before deadline, I will switch if I must.

dubb93 · 05-04-2009, 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EagleFan

Crazy theory... dubb and PB are wolves and PB is the cunning. dubb trying to draw the heat hoping PB gets scanned and cleared?

No, I want scanned. I'm not a wolf.

dubb93 · 05-04-2009, 07:26 PM

Work Gladhandling

dubb93 · 05-04-2009, 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeheinz72

Would it be smart if one of the people who is just a x1 to finish off gladhanding today?

As it stands, we'd be 9/10 heading into tomorrow. If the wolves do somehow know this is endgame, it's completely possible that faking that one point would be worth outing a wolf.

Just brainstorming.

This is after he voted me.

Danny · 05-04-2009, 07:29 PM

Unvote Dubb
Vote PurdueBrad

Lets see what happens

ntndeacon · 05-04-2009, 07:29 PM

Work Oratory

Lathum · 05-04-2009, 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubb93

PB isn't my top choice. Still time before deadline, I will switch if I must.

can you lay out your case for Heinze?

Danny · 05-04-2009, 07:32 PM

PurdueBrad 4 - EagleFan (1915). Lathum (2059), Chief Rum (2116), Danny
dubb93 5 - Barkeep49 (1942), PurdueBrad (1949), Glengoyne (1988), jeheinz72 (2084), USFLTecmo (2097),
claphamsa 1 - Poli (2034)
jeheinz72 1 - dubb93 (2103)

no vote: claphamsa, ntndeacon, TheNorm, DaddyTorgo, RendeR

As of 2116:

Patrolling: Chief Rum x3 (1926), Poli (1951), USFLTecomo X3 (1958), RendeR (1965), TheNorm (2091) (9/10)
Food Distribution: Danny x3 (1900), EagleFan x3 (1901), Lathum x3 (2023) (9/10)
Gladhandling: claphamsa x3 (1939), jeheinz72 x3 (1952), Dubb (7/10)
Oratory: PurdueBrad x3 (1938), DaddyTorgo (1946), Glengoyne (1996), Barkeep49 (2106), NTN (7/10)

dubb93 · 05-04-2009, 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

can you lay out your case for Heinze?

He came in after our spat and voted me. Then he made the post about 9/10 gladhandling today, which is the post that pissed me off and made me unwork gladhandling. Was almost like he knows I'm good.

Danny · 05-04-2009, 07:33 PM

Dubb, you're a x3 gladhandler?

dubb93 · 05-04-2009, 07:35 PM

Someone lay out the case against PB or link me to it. Coming into today b/f all the blow ups I was thinking DT, but re-reading his posts today I think he reads more good than bad.

dubb93 · 05-04-2009, 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny

Dubb, you're a x3 gladhandler?

Yes.

Danny · 05-04-2009, 07:36 PM

I'm almost tempted to say we let both PB and Dubb live because of the importance of completing this mission and they are both x3. This puts them in a position of outing themselves or putting in some work.

Danny · 05-04-2009, 07:38 PM

In fact, I think that's a good strategy

Unvote PurdueBrad

I saw we lynch someone today who is not x3 on a job we need.

ntndeacon · 05-04-2009, 07:38 PM

I can't really tell between the leading two candidates to be voted off who is more likely to be a sympathizer. So this is a little off of gut and reactions.
Vote Purdue Brad

RendeR · 05-04-2009, 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny

I'm almost tempted to say we let both PB and Dubb live because of the importance of completing this mission and they are both x3. This puts them in a position of outing themselves or putting in some work.

This thought crossed my mind, but that nagging "get the wolf NOW" thing keeps yelling at me.

Danny · 05-04-2009, 07:40 PM

I think with our recent failings, we really need to complete this mission.

dubb93 · 05-04-2009, 07:43 PM

I will agree, if PB is a villager losing him hurts more than losing me. Gladhandling should be pretty well done and PB could finish up Oratory tomarrow. Is he our only orator left?

DaddyTorgo · 05-04-2009, 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EagleFan

Crazy theory... dubb and PB are wolves and PB is the cunning. dubb trying to draw the heat hoping PB gets scanned and cleared?

dubb certainly isn't helping his arguement with his "if I can't play I'm taking my stuff and going home" attitude.

What is the deal with people and these tantrums lately? It's a freaking game. If it's just a ploy as a wolf that's one thing but if it's a serious tantrum by a villager being voted against that is pretty sad. You do realize that you still win with the village if you are voted out? In fact the village could learn somthing by you getting voted out as a villager but not i you brin on the heat yourself by acting like that.

+1

It's one thing to be frustrated and campaign against getting lynched if you have another candidate. It's another to take your ball and go home IMHO.

I'm catching up, but leaning towards making it closer and voting PB at least for now

dubb93 · 05-04-2009, 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny

In fact, I think that's a good strategy

Unvote PurdueBrad

I saw we lynch someone today who is not x3 on a job we need.

Villagers that are x3 will still complete their work for today.

dubb93 · 05-04-2009, 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

+1

It's one thing to be frustrated and campaign against getting lynched if you have another candidate. It's another to take your ball and go home IMHO.

I'm catching up, but leaning towards making it closer and voting PB at least for now

I never took my ball and went home.

Danny · 05-04-2009, 07:45 PM

Yes, but this is a two day mission

05-04-2009, 06:07 PM	#2105
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	BK, do oratory. Knock yourself out. *this is not an official proclamation for you to do said work. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

05-04-2009, 06:32 PM	#2111
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	wow, thats a lot of votes on dubb..... he seems the same as last game... he was good then right? certainly is entertaining :P __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

05-04-2009, 06:48 PM	#2116
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	I am of half of a mind to vote for dubb out of spite, because he's being a complete tool right now. That said, his play reminds me of when I am annoyed at not being a wolf and yet targeted for uncertain reasons. So I am going to throw my vote on PB and see what develops from a closer vote. VOTE PURDUEBRAD Oh, and if, dubb, you keep your work off through the deadline and you're a villager, I will make it my goal to see you voted out first in every game we play together. __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

05-04-2009, 07:18 PM	#2126
RendeR Coordinator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY	I'm torn. I know exactly how frustrating it is when someone gets a run going on me when I'm a villager and I can't offer anything substantial to slow it down, so on that count I understand precisely why Dubb would act this way. On the other hand, this is PRECISELY how I would act if I were a wolf caught in the noose. Whats the issue on PB? I mean other than his name is PB and he's always a good vote? __________________ http://wotlabs.net/s...8/signature.png http://wotlabs.net/sig_dark/na/banichi18/signature.png

05-04-2009, 06:04 PM	#2103
dubb93 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2004	fuck this, two people on me know I'm not a wolf. They have both counted on my work going through. You guys are either potential wolfs or villagers knowing you aren't helping. Unwork Gladhandling If you think I'm a wolf quit counting on my work. It's like saying "I want rid of Dubb even though I know he's a villager so I'll count on his work getting done." Vote Jeheinz

05-04-2009, 06:05 PM	#2104
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	I need to know where to work. I should have had oodles of free time today, but instead have not had three seconds to myself since 7 AM. Please tell me where to work.

05-04-2009, 06:08 PM	#2106
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	work oratory

05-04-2009, 06:11 PM	#2107
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	I'm still holding my vote for the moment, but there still is the best case against Dubb, so my vote will likely be headed there too.

05-04-2009, 06:11 PM	#2108
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Pretty sure I posted this a lot lot earlier, but Vote dubb

05-04-2009, 06:17 PM	#2109
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Vote Dubb

05-04-2009, 06:18 PM	#2110
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	I think that makes it 5-2-1-1 since I'm pretty sure Barkeep voted earlier.

05-04-2009, 06:43 PM	#2114
dubb93 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2004	Dubb - Barkeep, PB, Glen, Heinz, USFL, Danny (6) PB - EF, Lathum (2) Clap - Poli (1) Jeheinz - Dubb (1)

05-04-2009, 06:43 PM	#2115
dubb93 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2004	Vote Danny for Mr. Misinformation

05-04-2009, 06:54 PM	#2118
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	So we're at 6-3 now with Dubb able to switch off and make it 6-4. Yet to vote looks to be NTN, The Norm, DaddyTorgo, Lathum and Render

05-04-2009, 06:56 PM	#2120
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	As of 2116: Patrolling: Chief Rum x3 (1926), Poli (1951), USFLTecomo X3 (1958), RendeR (1965), TheNorm (2091) (9/10) Food Distribution: Danny x3 (1900), EagleFan x3 (1901), Lathum x3 (2023) (9/10) Gladhandling: claphamsa x3 (1939), jeheinz72 x3 (1952) (6/10) Oratory: PurdueBrad x3 (1938), DaddyTorgo (1946), Glengoyne (1996), Barkeep49 (2106) (6/10) PurdueBrad 3 - EagleFan (1915). Lathum (2059), Chief Rum (2116) dubb93 6 - Barkeep49 (1942), PurdueBrad (1949), Glengoyne (1988), jeheinz72 (2084), USFLTecmo (2097), Danny (2109) claphamsa 1 - Poli (2034) jeheinz72 1 - dubb93 (2103) no work order: ntndeacon, dubb93 no vote: claphamsa, ntndeacon, TheNorm, DaddyTorgo, RendeR

05-04-2009, 07:01 PM	#2121
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	Crazy theory... dubb and PB are wolves and PB is the cunning. dubb trying to draw the heat hoping PB gets scanned and cleared? dubb certainly isn't helping his arguement with his "if I can't play I'm taking my stuff and going home" attitude. What is the deal with people and these tantrums lately? It's a freaking game. If it's just a ploy as a wolf that's one thing but if it's a serious tantrum by a villager being voted against that is pretty sad. You do realize that you still win with the village if you are voted out? In fact the village could learn somthing by you getting voted out as a villager but not i you brin on the heat yourself by acting like that.

05-04-2009, 07:05 PM	#2122
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Regardless of the lynch, I think we are looking strong on the work we are doing. Just keep in mind an arrest is likely to come tomorrow, so we'll have to factor that in. Assuming Dubb and NTN do work on Oratory and glad handling split we have Patrolling 9 Food Distribution 9 Gladhandling 7 Oratory 7 I don't see anyone faking today. Then tomorrow assuming they arrest let's say Claphamsa and they night kill EagleFan. That means we could have CR and Torgo on Patrolling, will surely finish it off. Then we can have Lathum and myself on Food dist which will finish that off. Then we will have Jeheinz, Glen, BK, NTN on Gladhandling which unless there are two wolves will finish if off. Then on oratory we can have PB, Render, Poli and USFL which gives likely enough to finish there even if someone fakes. This is meant to lay it out, who exactly goes where can be changed. The biggest risk to our work is if PB is bad. And that's one reason why I don't mind lynching Dubb over him. If he is bad, it will at least keep him from faking work today or outing himself for sure.

05-04-2009, 07:07 PM	#2124
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Dubb that is

05-04-2009, 07:21 PM	#2127
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Why isn't Dubb voting PB?

05-04-2009, 07:26 PM	#2131
dubb93 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2004	Work Gladhandling

05-04-2009, 07:29 PM	#2133
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Unvote Dubb Vote PurdueBrad Lets see what happens

05-04-2009, 07:29 PM	#2134
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	Work Oratory

05-04-2009, 07:32 PM	#2136
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	PurdueBrad 4 - EagleFan (1915). Lathum (2059), Chief Rum (2116), Danny dubb93 5 - Barkeep49 (1942), PurdueBrad (1949), Glengoyne (1988), jeheinz72 (2084), USFLTecmo (2097), claphamsa 1 - Poli (2034) jeheinz72 1 - dubb93 (2103) no vote: claphamsa, ntndeacon, TheNorm, DaddyTorgo, RendeR As of 2116: Patrolling: Chief Rum x3 (1926), Poli (1951), USFLTecomo X3 (1958), RendeR (1965), TheNorm (2091) (9/10) Food Distribution: Danny x3 (1900), EagleFan x3 (1901), Lathum x3 (2023) (9/10) Gladhandling: claphamsa x3 (1939), jeheinz72 x3 (1952), Dubb (7/10) Oratory: PurdueBrad x3 (1938), DaddyTorgo (1946), Glengoyne (1996), Barkeep49 (2106), NTN (7/10)

05-04-2009, 07:33 PM	#2138
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Dubb, you're a x3 gladhandler?

05-04-2009, 07:35 PM	#2139
dubb93 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2004	Someone lay out the case against PB or link me to it. Coming into today b/f all the blow ups I was thinking DT, but re-reading his posts today I think he reads more good than bad.

05-04-2009, 07:36 PM	#2141
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	I'm almost tempted to say we let both PB and Dubb live because of the importance of completing this mission and they are both x3. This puts them in a position of outing themselves or putting in some work.

05-04-2009, 07:38 PM	#2142
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	In fact, I think that's a good strategy Unvote PurdueBrad I saw we lynch someone today who is not x3 on a job we need.

05-04-2009, 07:38 PM	#2143
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	I can't really tell between the leading two candidates to be voted off who is more likely to be a sympathizer. So this is a little off of gut and reactions. Vote Purdue Brad

05-04-2009, 07:40 PM	#2145
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	I think with our recent failings, we really need to complete this mission.

05-04-2009, 07:43 PM	#2146
dubb93 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2004	I will agree, if PB is a villager losing him hurts more than losing me. Gladhandling should be pretty well done and PB could finish up Oratory tomarrow. Is he our only orator left?

05-04-2009, 07:45 PM	#2150
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Yes, but this is a two day mission

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