Werewolf XXXVIII: Jack The Ripper (GAME OVER! GOOD WINS ON DAY SEVEN)

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by path12

st.c voted dodgerchick #2091.

Thanks. Pretty sure I have it right, but with it so close, I need to be sure.

[path12]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

I know, path. I just put the wrong name know. This sucks doing this at Kinkos. I HATE Anaheim power utility right now.

I've also lost power three times in the past month. I feel your pain.

[Chief Rum]

Okay it is confirmed. I am doing the writeup right now.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by path12

The dream could hint at someone else awakening. Without copying it, could you paraphrase the details?

This was exactly what i meant when i said it sounded like a conversion...i wasnt saying izulde, but it seemed to me to signify a the bad guy gained a bad guy that night(the night we had no kills if im not mistaken)

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

DaddyTorgo tried to get Izulde on Night 2 when he was arrested and hooked up with Barkeep on Night 4 (Blade, are you positive it was this night?)

Barkeep said he hooked up with DC and DT that night...thats how positive i am, meaning i know nothing about it...just passed along what Barkeep said.

[DaddyTorgo]

damm. missed the deadline. home now though. and i'll put together a list of my night actions here in a minute.

[DaddyTorgo]

hoops...last night i was falling asleep and missed the deadline to get my night action in.

[Lorena]

Dang, 30 shillings gone to waste

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by Dodgerchick

Dang, 30 shillings gone to waste

That will teach you to steal

[Lorena]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

That will teach you to steal

lol

Hey, I'm just a poor fisherman that was in the wrong place at the wrong time.

[Chief Rum]

For the first time in days, the mob seems confused as to who to go after. There are two clear choices. Dodgerchick and Daddy Torog are both highly suspected of being responsible for Barkeep's death this past night. But who?

The vote revolves all day, as the arguments go back and forth. Finally, as the sun begins to set, one side gets its consensus, and the lynch is on.

Dodgerchick and LoneStarGirl, two days in jail now, are led to Whitechapel Road. The mob sees little reason to hold up LoneStarGirl's lynch now, as there is no other suspect currently for Mr. Wednesday's death.

They put the noose around her neck as she visibly alters between staring them in defiance and showing her fear for what is about to happen. She is soon hanging in the air, fighting for any breath she can get. But none is soon coming--LoneStarGirl is dead.

The mob turns to Dodgerchick. She seems more openly fearful and remorseful. She offers them the shillings she stole, for repentance if nothing else. "Keep them, Judas!", the crowd roars. This makes her angry and she quiets down to take her punishment as well as can be expected. She is soon hanging beside LoneStarGirl, and it is not long before she has breathed her last. Dodgerchick is dead.

The bodies are cut down and searched. By all accounts, they both look to be normal Londoners.

The mob is not satisfied with this. They go to the homes of the suspects to search them. In LoneStarGirl's home, they find a wealth of stolen goods and several dirty homeless orphans holed up inside, hiding. Clearly, they have found the home of the evil Fagin! They have indeed removed a blight from Whitechapel today!

Can they hit gold twice? The mob searches Dodgerchick's flat. Sadly, there is no obvious signs of despicability here. She was what she said she was--a simple fisherman, in the wrong place at the wrong time.

As the mob retreats into the streets of Whitechapel, they consider carefully what evil they may have done in trying to eradicate other evils from their district.

DAY SIX IS NOW OVER. NIGHT SIX NOW BEGINS. IF NORMAL PLANS HOLD, THERE WILL BE A NIGHT ACTION RUN TOMORROW MORNING AT 7 A.M. EST/4 A.M. PDT. IF NOT, IT WILL LIKELY BE A LATE NIGHT ACTION RUN TOMORROW NIGHT, ABOUT 10 P.M. PDT, WITH THE NEXT DAY DEADLINE SET FOR WEDNESDAY EVENING, NORMAL TIME. PLEASE SEE PREVIOUS GM POST FOR EXPLANATION.

[Izulde]

I *told* you guys DC was good and a normal Londoner.

[Lorena]

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by Dodgerchick

lol

Hey, I'm just a poor fisherman that was in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Only in WW can someone make love to a hooker soo badly they die, rob them after they die in your arms, be seen by multiple people do all this this, and be deemed good by society in the end. Well, i guess WW and senators...

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by Izulde

I *told* you guys DC was good and a normal Londoner.

We got fagin, for all intensive purposes im happy as can be..sucks DC had to go, but she brought that on herself for not telling us up front about the robbery. I wouldnt have gone after her nearly as hard if she hadnt tried to hide it.

[hoopsguy]

Blade, I'm not sure that Daddy is a lock for a scan tonight.

Izulde and Hoops - started good as prostitutes
Bullet - revealed good by Barkeep on Night 1
Blade/Cronin - dynamic duo
Raiders/Swaggs - both trusted by Blade
Path - scanned by Blade last night

If you are worried about a conversion in the game scan someone you trust and lets see if we get lucky. If there are no conversions then DaddyTorgo is the only one left as potentially an original evil.

Take your shot on someone else, if you don't come up with a bad guy we go ahead and lynch DaddyTorgo. Unless we believe there were six bad guys we are not in much danger right now. We've already had a brutal wolf in this game (Lathum) so we aren't at risk in that manner as we approach end game.

[hoopsguy]

By "scan someone you trust" I mean scan someone that isn't Daddy - obviously you understand your own trust list just fine and don't need to explain it to anyone.

I would consider DaddyTorgo to be a fall-back lynch at this time. And if that sounds cold, well he has missed two actions already this game, has had long lapses of non-participation, and has no substantial vouches heading into Night 6. Sorry, but those are the breaks.

[Chief Rum]

All right, I am out. Hopefully will be up running tomorrow morning. But if you don't hear from me, you know what's going on. Be sure to get your night actions by the deadline anyway.

Good luck!

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Blade, I'm not sure that Daddy is a lock for a scan tonight.

Izulde and Hoops - started good as prostitutes
Bullet - revealed good by Barkeep on Night 1
Blade/Cronin - dynamic duo
Raiders/Swaggs - both trusted by Blade
Path - scanned by Blade last night

If you are worried about a conversion in the game scan someone you trust and lets see if we get lucky. If there are no conversions then DaddyTorgo is the only one left as potentially an original evil.

Take your shot on someone else, if you don't come up with a bad guy we go ahead and lynch DaddyTorgo. Unless we believe there were six bad guys we are not in much danger right now. We've already had a brutal wolf in this game (Lathum) so we aren't at risk in that manner as we approach end game.

Dubb was also a brutal wolf, but our constable spent money to save me...remember that.

Right now the question i want you ask you. Do you believe we have a conversion, or moriarty. If the latter, DT makes the most sense for a scan...if the former, he does not. Do you assume that role is not in the game, which states is a role against holmes, which i am in the game.

[hoopsguy]

I'll be in Commercial if anyone is looking for action tonight.

[hoopsguy]

Moriarty only - 50% likelihood
Conversion only - 25% likelihood
Moriarty + conversion - 25% likelihood

Assuming you are right with your trust on RA and Swaggs, then the only people who could have started bad are DT or Path with a cunning wolf ability, right?

Starting with five bad guys, who can execute multiple kills on given evenings, and have a conversion, seems to be significantly upping the ante in terms of difficulty. The good guys have their share of advantages so I'm not ruling it out.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Moriarty only - 50% likelihood
Conversion only - 25% likelihood
Moriarty + conversion - 25% likelihood

Assuming you are right with your trust on RA and Swaggs, then the only people who could have started bad are DT or Path with a cunning wolf ability, right?

Starting with five bad guys, who can execute multiple kills on given evenings, and have a conversion, seems to be significantly upping the ante in terms of difficulty. The good guys have their share of advantages so I'm not ruling it out.

Our biggest advantage was 2 seers, and 2 roles that can support their seers(1 with BG powers, one with arrests). We just got unlucky they got NTN so early, especially after the 2 seers found each other on night 1 and could have worked together.

Outside of that, the hookers are partial seers.

How about this:

CONSTABLE, ARREST DADDYTORGO PLEASE

That way, if need be, we can take 2 again(hightening our chances of catching evil)

[Lorena]

Ya'll are really not reading what I post... it's alright, I'm used to it.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by Dodgerchick

Ya'll are really not reading what I post... it's alright, I'm used to it.

I read what you posted, and understand your feelings. Im just telling you in my opinion if you had come out with the info all up front i think DT would have been lynched. Bad guys hide incriminating info, good guys share it. It looked bad when you hid it, whatever your intentions.

Thats my .02, take it for what you will

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

Our biggest advantage was 2 seers, and 2 roles that can support their seers(1 with BG powers, one with arrests). We just got unlucky they got NTN so early, especially after the 2 seers found each other on night 1 and could have worked together.

Outside of that, the hookers are partial seers.

How about this:

CONSTABLE, ARREST DADDYTORGO PLEASE

That way, if need be, we can take 2 again(hightening our chances of catching evil)

Love it.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

By "scan someone you trust" I mean scan someone that isn't Daddy - obviously you understand your own trust list just fine and don't need to explain it to anyone.

I would consider DaddyTorgo to be a fall-back lynch at this time. And if that sounds cold, well he has missed two actions already this game, has had long lapses of non-participation, and has no substantial vouches heading into Night 6. Sorry, but those are the breaks.

hoops...my "long lapses of non-participation" are due to my work schedule, which if you will note, I have always posted about well in advance. so don't use that as a reason to lynch me. sucks that my work schedule sucks so much, but them's the breaks...i don't have the luxury of having the sort of job where i can sit around all day and play WW. missed night actions...yep. done that. i was tired last night and confused by the options CR presented for the weekend. so lynch me for that. blah. vouches? izulde was about to get busy with me, through no fault of his own. and barkeep and i definately had a good time, although I didn't poison him, so don't jump to that conclusion. who else did he service who could have poisoned him?

[Raiders Army]

I knew LSG was a baddie! Not really...

[Blade6119]

DT..for better or worse, no one can vouch for you. LSG, dubb, saldana and lathum were all unvouched for by anyone...all 4 came up evil. Do you know who alive left is unvouched for by anyone...just you.

You have to see where were coming from then...besides, if your good go to a prostitute tonight and earn your trust.

[hoopsguy]

Daddy, I have led lynch expeditions for much thinner reasons than I have outlined here.

But if you want to help us win the game, rather than complain about people gunning for you, put together a comprehensive post of your activities - what have you done with day/night actions so far this game?

Also, I'm working with the idea that you do not have a bodyguard or seer power at this point in time. I would assess the risk/reward associated with a full reveal if you are a good guy at this stage in the game. We are going to be heading into Day 7 tomorrow. I expect you will be safe as a kitten from the bad guys tonight.

If you are not going to have the bandwidth at work tomorrow to be able to post in your own defense then please do it this evening. I don't want to see us make a mistake because of perceived inactivity, but lacking other candidates/reasons I'll take my chances if you don't engage yourself within seven days of game play.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Daddy, I have led lynch expeditions for much thinner reasons than I have outlined here.

But if you want to help us win the game, rather than complain about people gunning for you, put together a comprehensive post of your activities - what have you done with day/night actions so far this game?

Also, I'm working with the idea that you do not have a bodyguard or seer power at this point in time. I would assess the risk/reward associated with a full reveal if you are a good guy at this stage in the game. We are going to be heading into Day 7 tomorrow. I expect you will be safe as a kitten from the bad guys tonight.

If you are not going to have the bandwidth at work tomorrow to be able to post in your own defense then please do it this evening. I don't want to see us make a mistake because of perceived inactivity, but lacking other candidates/reasons I'll take my chances if you don't engage yourself within seven days of game play.

i've engaged in the game hoops. taking cheap shots at me for having to work is pretty low, and honestly is a good way of discouraging me from participating in future WW games. not that i expect that to cause you to back off or really get any response from anyone other than a sarcastic "boo hoo" or "maybe you shouldn't" from you or anyone, but just FYI.

i don't suppose I have the option of visiting a prostitute tonight, as Blade has called for RA to arrest me tonight and haul me off to jail.

i will put together a list of my actions tonight, and also FYI I am not working tomorrow and I intend to do a bunch of stuff on my computer so I should be around.

[hoopsguy]

Daddy, I honestly don't see the cheap shot in that post. If anything, I tried to outline ways that I thought you could avoid being lynched tomorrow.

It isn't a matter of post count, as Swaggs has relatively few in this game. But he is vouched for, so he doesn't draw much attention.

It isn't a matter of wanting to discourage anyone from playing the game - I try to be as inclusive as possible in both my public posts and private conversations with people. I enjoy playing werewolf games on this board and the best way to ensure a steady stream of games is to keep players around and engaged in order to build their enjoyment.

If this is a defense that you are mounting as a bad guy, I have sympathy for being in that position two games in a row. Ask Lathum how it feels to be a bad guy every time out; I'm sure he has thoughts on the matter. As do others who have been there ...

Looking forward to chatting with you tomorrow.

[Raiders Army]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

i've engaged in the game hoops. taking cheap shots at me for having to work is pretty low, and honestly is a good way of discouraging me from participating in future WW games. not that i expect that to cause you to back off or really get any response from anyone other than a sarcastic "boo hoo" or "maybe you shouldn't" from you or anyone, but just FYI.

FWIW, I don't think anyone is taking cheap shots at you. I also don't think that it would be in anyone's interest to discourage anyone else from playing in future WW games. My two cents.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Daddy, I honestly don't see the cheap shot in that post. If anything, I tried to outline ways that I thought you could avoid being lynched tomorrow.

It isn't a matter of post count, as Swaggs has relatively few in this game. But he is vouched for, so he doesn't draw much attention.

It isn't a matter of wanting to discourage anyone from playing the game - I try to be as inclusive as possible in both my public posts and private conversations with people. I enjoy playing werewolf games on this board and the best way to ensure a steady stream of games is to keep players around and engaged in order to build their enjoyment.

If this is a defense that you are mounting as a bad guy, I have sympathy for being in that position two games in a row. Ask Lathum how it feels to be a bad guy every time out; I'm sure he has thoughts on the matter. As do others who have been there ...

Looking forward to chatting with you tomorrow.

alright...fair enough. I guess i was just being a bit...testy.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by Raiders Army

FWIW, I don't think anyone is taking cheap shots at you. I also don't think that it would be in anyone's interest to discourage anyone else from playing in future WW games. My two cents.

Ya, we dont say things like this:

"Oh, your still playing raiders??? I thought you would have quit by now with how bad you are...god, never play WW again RA. Ever since we failed in X-com you have just been going downhill...hang em up RA, your just not the player you once were."

We may think it, but we dont tell him...i mean tell anyone

[Blade6119]

Bulletsponge has been the least active player alive now that LSG is dead..does it upset me, yes...can i do anything about it? Well, besides lynching him, no...Is he helping us win this, not at all...he didnt even vote today. But barkeep was vouching for him earlier.

Though with conversion possible, he suddenly is less trusted and apparently doesnt care to be around to share his thoughts

[Raiders Army]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

Ya, we dont say things like this:

"Oh, your still playing raiders??? I thought you would have quit by now with how bad you are...god, never play WW again RA. Ever since we failed in X-com you have just been going downhill...hang em up RA, your just not the player you once were."

We may think it, but we dont tell him...i mean tell anyone

I won't tell this RA fellow if you don't.

[hoopsguy]

Seriously, he already has to live with being a Raiders fan.

[hoopsguy]

What worse, rooting for horrid NFL team or having jbmagic as your team prolific fan FOFC board?

[Raiders Army]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

What worse, rooting for horrid NFL team or having jbmagic as your team prolific fan FOFC board?

That's a no-win situation right there. At least in FOF and Madden, the Raiders are doing quite well.

[Blade6119]

DT, as someone who has by far the most experience taking and giving WW cheap shots(i went like 5 games straight a ways back with a MAJOR blow-up with a new person every game...we havent had a major blow-up since egypt, so understand they werent minor).

Ive come to learn that WW can make people angry, can make them say comments you dont like, and can generally make you want to strangle them. At the end of the day though, our little community is pretty close. Schmidty and i used to hate each other and we get along great now. Lathum and i, well you dont even want to know how bad that was...were quite amiable now. DC and barkeep both took a shot at me this game with comments, but i talk to both outside of FOFC in very friendly terms. I think it took me awhile to understand its the game, not the people, causing the tension. A lot of the people here(in the WW community) will go out of their way to be nice to each other. Most are really decent people(except raiders, but we covered that ). Once i learned to not let those things get to me my enjoyment of WW increased 10 fold. Now i feel like its a fraternity where we may have small arguements and squabbles, but at the end of the day were all friends and somewhat a family here in our corner of FOFC(not counting raiders again, noted). I hope in time you will come to see it that way too, and will be comfortable saying things like what i have about raiders becuase you both know your joking.

[Blade6119]

time for bullet to get mad at me for a cheap shot i regretted posting the second i did it

[Alan T]

But I really do hate you all!

[bulletsponge]

ok, i see im still alive.

[bulletsponge]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

time for bullet to get mad at me for a cheap shot i regretted posting the second i did it

what cheap shot?

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by bulletsponge

what cheap shot?

Just look away, dont go looking for it

[path12]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

I'll be in Commercial if anyone is looking for action tonight.

No cash, plus I need some variety.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Alan T

But I really do hate you all!

p.s. I totaled up my air-miles for 2006. Ended up with 47216 miles for the year. Not as much as the past two years though!

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by Alan T

p.s. I totaled up my air-miles for 2006. Ended up with 47216 miles for the year. Not as much as the past two years though!

Go away back stabbing ninja, my eye still hurts!!

[bulletsponge]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

Bulletsponge has been the least active player alive now that LSG is dead..does it upset me, yes...can i do anything about it? Well, besides lynching him, no...Is he helping us win this, not at all...he didnt even vote today. But barkeep was vouching for him earlier.

Though with conversion possible, he suddenly is less trusted and apparently doesnt care to be around to share his thoughts

is this the cheap shot post you were refering to? whats bad about it?

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by bulletsponge

is this the cheap shot post you were refering to? whats bad about it?

I said you werent helping us win...wow, if your not offended then im happy. Im used to having to apologize for even the slightest slant. I dont mean it as an insult, so i hope you dont take it that way.