WW LXXXIII Marvel Universe - Game Over! Rebel victory!

[HenryPym]

It looks like the rebel mission is very undermanned, and with the addition of Aardwolf who I have concerns about.

[KangtheConqueror]

Originally Posted by Scarlet Witch

I do agree with this, though that point may have been lost in my struggles to bash reason into the head of Dr. Doom. I also favor overkill on the Egyptian mission -- that's why I planned to assist it this morning. However, if Mimic is going to use his considerable energy on that mission, that is already overkill. Mimic is just following orders, but how Dr. Doom does not see this, I do not understand. I am of the opinion that one of Mimic or myself is needed for this mission, but using both of us on it today takes away some of our options for going after Galactus tomorrow.

I can't decide if I think you're right or completely full of it.

[Scarlet Witch]

Originally Posted by Mr.Fantastic

I think the biggest case being made against her is that she is being a Scarlet Witch! Basically ruffling Doom's feathers even though he seems to be pretty much cleared, and his actions also seem to show no third party win conditions or the like either as some suggested. I think Doom is being a bit upset at her because with his plan even one person openly defying it might cause the entire thing to implode and become worthless (if he is attempting to do what I think by making sure to use up everyone's action points so they can't be used against us).

Now that said, do I think that this makes her evil? Not really.. I think her over the top approach has put her pretty high there in the spotlight, so I would assume someone with the ability to "seer scan" as it has been called might take the opportunity to look at her early on, which would not be a recipe for her success if she was bad..

I think if anything, I don't necessarily trust her as she hasn't really been overly cooperative, and she may or may not be loyal, but I don't think that makes her necessarily a rebel either.. If anything she's just being overly stubborn.

To be clear, I am not trying to say that Doom is a rebel. Since he is the one ruling the world, he would essentially be leading a rebellion against himself. Pretty unlikely, I'd say.

[Mimic]

Aardwolf is here, maybe he can answer some of our concerns.

[Aardwolf]

Originally Posted by Mimic

Hey, no one else felt it strange that Aardwolf was disobeying Doom and his reason was pretty weak?

Pretty weak? To go on a mission to help us weed out rebels is a pretty weak explanation? I find your questioning of this to be pretty weak. I take it intelligence is not one of your powers, or you are a rebel who does not want us to use our powers in a mission that could directly hurt your cause.

[Magneto]

Since we appear to be undermanned on both missions, I will be available to have my assignment changed if necessary. No one has selected me to guard them this evening.

[Magneto]

Originally Posted by KangtheConqueror

I can't decide if I think you're right or completely full of it.

I have been wrestling with this question for many, many years. As I posted earlier, I have concluded that both are true statements.

[Mr.Fantastic]

Originally Posted by Magneto

Since we appear to be undermanned on both missions, I will be available to have my assignment changed if necessary. No one has selected me to guard them this evening.

Who is left that hasn't ordered a guard command yet among the prelates?

[Aardwolf]

Collossus and QuickSilver are already on the Rebel mission and I don't trust either of them. We need more on this mission to counter their sabotage attempts.

[Mimic]

Originally Posted by DrDoom

So far Colossus, Quicksilver and Ghost Rider have pledged to this very important task. Scarlet Witch pledges to help from earth. I would see more pledge their energy to it.

Mimic, you possess the power to make this mission succeed singlehandedly with your energy stores. Prove your loyalty to Doom by eradicating the rebellion today.

Here are the Strike Teams Doom suggests. Disagree if you wish, but unexplained insubordination will be suspect.

Rebel Mission
Colossus
Emma Frost
Firebird
Ghost Rider
Iron Fist
Mimic
Quicksilver
Silver Surfer

Galactus Attack
Aardwolf
Beast
Cable
Henry Pym
Hulk
Kang
Vision

Tonight's Guards
Magneto
Nick Fury
Punisher
Silver Samurai
Spiderman

Mr. Fantastic I will expect you to open the portal to the Negative Zone tonight.

ALL HAIL DOOM

Originally Posted by Aardwolf

If those who were suggested to go on the Galactus mission follow thourh we have mor than enough power there. I want to see the rebellion stopped so I am going to not so respectfully decline the suggestion from Dr. Doom and chose a different mission.

My talents were wasted last night in a guard mission (I only say wasted as there was no attack on Emma Frost). With that said, night guard duty is quite suited for some of my talents. When the moon arises I feel the power within me grow and my hunger for rebellious blood intensifies.

Go on Egypt Rebellion Mission

Originally Posted by Aardwolf

Pretty weak? To go on a mission to help us weed out rebels is a pretty weak explanation? I find your questioning of this to be pretty weak. I take it intelligence is not one of your powers, or you are a rebel who does not want us to use our powers in a mission that could directly hurt your cause.

Nice rhetoric combined with personal insults.

Try providing an explanation of how the Rebel mission composition is not as strong as the Galactus team composition. I don't see how this is so.

[Mimic]

Originally Posted by Aardwolf

Collossus and QuickSilver are already on the Rebel mission and I don't trust either of them. We need more on this mission to counter their sabotage attempts.

What's the case against Quicksilver?

[Aardwolf]

Originally Posted by HenryPym

It looks like the rebel mission is very undermanned, and with the addition of Aardwolf who I have concerns about.

The only reason you should have concerns about me going on the rebel mission is if you are a rebel, so that must mean...

Wait your turn and I will get to you soon.

What is most important today is that I get to taste rebel blood!!!

[Magneto]

Originally Posted by Mr.Fantastic

Who is left that hasn't ordered a guard command yet among the prelates?

Vision, I believe, First Prelate.

[Aardwolf]

Originally Posted by Mimic

Nice rhetoric combined with personal insults.

Try providing an explanation of how the Rebel mission composition is not as strong as the Galactus team composition. I don't see how this is so.

Strength is not in direct relation to the importance. Galactus mission is important to us and the rebels. Rebel mission is important only to us for success, for rebels it is only imporant to sabotage. We need as much of our own strength on that mission as possible to counter any sabotage attempts.

I know I have been taken away by outside distractions but QuickSilver has added nothing to our assistance, has done merely hit and run attacks with no explanation (yet I have not seen anyone call QuickSilver on this other than me) and has been part of a failed mission in which QuickSilver seemed to do nothing.

[Scarlet Witch]

Originally Posted by Mimic

Nice rhetoric combined with personal insults.

Try providing an explanation of how the Rebel mission composition is not as strong as the Galactus team composition. I don't see how this is so.

(ooc) I thought that's the way the game is played! (/ooc)

Despite Dr. Doom's inability to withdraw his attack on me, I am considering assisting the Galactus mission today. There's no point in waiting until tomorrow for it. Thoughts?

[HenryPym]

Scarlet Witch,

are you helping with the attack on Galactus or not? not sure from all the posts between you and Doom.

[HenryPym]

nice crosspost

With so little time left before the misions, you need to decide now Scarlet Witch so we can figure out which mission needs more people or not

[Mimic]

Originally Posted by Scarlet Witch

(ooc) I thought that's the way the game is played! (/ooc)

Despite Dr. Doom's inability to withdraw his attack on me, I am considering assisting the Galactus mission today. There's no point in waiting until tomorrow for it. Thoughts?

I'd do it. Let's place our trust in Doom at this point.

[Mimic]

Originally Posted by Aardwolf

Strength is not in direct relation to the importance. Galactus mission is important to us and the rebels. Rebel mission is important only to us for success, for rebels it is only imporant to sabotage. We need as much of our own strength on that mission as possible to counter any sabotage attempts.

I know I have been taken away by outside distractions but QuickSilver has added nothing to our assistance, has done merely hit and run attacks with no explanation (yet I have not seen anyone call QuickSilver on this other than me) and has been part of a failed mission in which QuickSilver seemed to do nothing.

Hmmmm...I can understand that explanation of mission importance as well as countering sabotage attempts but you understand that you put the spotlight on yourself by disobeying Doom and saying "Death to the rebels!" while changing missions? At the same time, you hinted at being a better guard. Wouldn't it be prudent to not go on a mission and prevent a rebel kill tonight if the rebel mission fails?

I'm not sure what to think about your explanation of Quicksilver other than that is not to the same level of scrutiny that Colossus was under.

[Scarlet Witch]

Originally Posted by HenryPym

nice crosspost

With so little time left before the misions, you need to decide now Scarlet Witch so we can figure out which mission needs more people or not

How would my decision affect that?

At this point, I am leaning toward using all my energy on Galactus, and let Mimic handle the rebels -- I had planned to use about a third of my energy on the rebels today, and two-thirds on Galactus tomorrow, but that energy won't be needed tomorrow after all.

[Scarlet Witch]

Originally Posted by Mimic

I'd do it. Let's place our trust in Doom at this point.

Sounds good. You take the rebels, I'll take Galactus. Doom twiddles his thumbs.

[Quicksilver]

Originally Posted by Mimic

Hmmmm...I can understand that explanation of mission importance as well as countering sabotage attempts but you understand that you put the spotlight on yourself by disobeying Doom and saying "Death to the rebels!" while changing missions? At the same time, you hinted at being a better guard. Wouldn't it be prudent to not go on a mission and prevent a rebel kill tonight if the rebel mission fails?

I'm not sure what to think about your explanation of Quicksilver other than that is not to the same level of scrutiny that Colossus was under.

He is angry that I attacked him, following orders to attack someone.

[Mimic]

FWIW, I think we're working together a little betterer today.

[SilverSurfer]

I think we'll have a better idea of that after the missions.

[Colossus]

Originally Posted by Magneto

So many holes. Where to start?

You tried to kill someone whom the rebels likely could not identify "on the sly." From the rebel perspective, young Storm was simply someone they knew only as not one of them. I presume the rebels have/had no more knowledge of what extreneous actors there may be on our stage. Ergo, to a rebel, Storm was probably a villager.

Did you try and kill a "bad guy?" Whether the Skrull was good or bad remains unknown. He notified us of the existence of the Herald, which is good. I surmise he had different win conditions, although I think only related to the demise of Galactus and the Herald.

Your justification for lying, that the expenditure of 3 points plus whatever you expended on the mission, which did not appear to be much, left the Mighty Colossus in a weakened state after day 1, is equally pathetic.

Wow, you're as ignorant as you are annoying.

Lets go point for point, shall we?


No shit the rebels didn't know who he was, how would they? and by the very SAME token, how could *I* have known he wasn't a rebel either? I had no foreknowledge that skrulls were even IN the game. So How does this negate the fact that I 'felt" someting was amiss with Mr. Storm? Oh thats right, it doesn;t, you simply can't maintain a timeline in your haste to persecute.

Not knowing that he was in fact a skrull sort of eliminates any premeditation on my part don't you think? I was assuming Torch was a rebel, nothing more. Again, a baseless point on your part. You're not paying attention to the flow of events.

And yet again you fal back on the "you lied to us" No shit. If you had actually read my posts you would see that I expended points on the mission as well as in my attack. Now I don;t know how many points you had to start, but my pool was rather limited. And just to reiterate my response to your claims that I was not vulnerable:

I had already gone on a mission so i could not use my defensive powers, I expended points on both the mission and the attack on Storm, so I had only a point left to work with. SO yes, I was worried about retaliation from the forces I BELIEVED at the time I was striking against.

Try thinking in the terms of how things actually happened instead of making it up as you go, then perhaps it might sink into that magnetic field you call a brain.

I've had enough of your ridiculous time wasting, we have a mission to fulfill.

[HenryPym]

Originally Posted by Scarlet Witch

How would my decision affect that?

At this point, I am leaning toward using all my energy on Galactus, and let Mimic handle the rebels -- I had planned to use about a third of my energy on the rebels today, and two-thirds on Galactus tomorrow, but that energy won't be needed tomorrow after all.

well we would need more people on Galactus most likely if you decided not to use their energy there.

[hoopsguy]

Crap, I was gone for 15 minutes and you guys have filled my PM box with 20 more!

Emptying now, please resend in 5 minutes if you were not able to get through to me. (sigh)

[HenryPym]

okay then thanks Scarlet Witch. So do we need more on a mission or not then at this point?

[Aardwolf]

Originally Posted by Mimic

Wouldn't it be prudent to not go on a mission and prevent a rebel kill tonight if the rebel mission fails?

We need to play to win, we can't be playing "not to lose".

[Scarlet Witch]

Originally Posted by HenryPym

well we would need more people on Galactus most likely if you decided not to use their energy there.

Aren't there only like 4 people going? Even with my energy there, we should have more people on it.

[Colossus]

Originally Posted by Aardwolf

Collossus and QuickSilver are already on the Rebel mission and I don't trust either of them. We need more on this mission to counter their sabotage attempts.

You'd best come up with something valid to support your wild accusations furball. You want to see sabotage? You had best look elsewhere.

[HenryPym]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Currently opting in for Mission:
Post #2020 - GhostRider
Post #2027 - Colossus
Post #2038 - Quicksilver
Post #2084 - SilverSurfer
Post #2099 - Aardwolf
Post #2126 - Mimic

Currently opting in for Galactus:
Post #2069 - Cable
Post #2090 - Kang
Post #2100 - Vision
Post #2101 - JeanGrey

Hulk has joined the Galactus mission, Emma Frost has joined the Egypt mission, am I missing anyone else?

[Mr.Fantastic]

Originally Posted by HenryPym

okay then thanks Scarlet Witch. So do we need more on a mission or not then at this point?

With Aardwolf not going on this mission, I think we have less people then some days where we lost against Galactus.. So I think we still need more people to sign up for Galactus. Seems we are a few short right now on it.

Rebel Mission
Firebird
Iron Fist


Galactus Attack
Aardwolf - wrong mission
Beast
Henry Pym

[KangtheConqueror]

All these people who aren't going on missions has me quite worried. Perhaps the rebels have to not go on missions to do their rebellious stuff?

[HenryPym]

Okay then guess I will, and I will be using more than one energy this time.

join Galactus Mission

[Aardwolf]

[ooc]In checking to see what PM's I may have sent today to hoops I noticed that if I open a PM from the sent items it gives the Reply All option but opening one in the Inbox does not. What's up wth that?[/ooc]

[Mimic]

Originally Posted by Aardwolf

We need to play to win, we can't be playing "not to lose".

We've gone to rhetoric to cliches. Nice!

No seriously, I understand and can agree with that philosophy....you do realize that if the mission fails you've put yourself in a position where it looks as if you joined to sabotage it?

[Mr.Fantastic]

I am taking this season one mission at a time.

We win as a team, we lose as a team.

Turnovers will be the key.

We take what the defense gives us.

Egypt is always a tough place to play.

We don't do these missions on paper!

There is no love lost between the rebels and the loyalist.

It is going to be a war out there.

We match up well.

[Scarlet Witch]

Originally Posted by Aardwolf

[ooc]In checking to see what PM's I may have sent today to hoops I noticed that if I open a PM from the sent items it gives the Reply All option but opening one in the Inbox does not. What's up wth that?[/ooc]

(ooc) I think that happened with the move to Operation Sports (/ooc)

[Mimic]

Originally Posted by Mr.Fantastic

I am taking this season one mission at a time.

We win as a team, we lose as a team.

Turnovers will be the key.

We take what the defense gives us.

Egypt is always a tough place to play.

We don't do these missions on paper!

There is no love lost between the rebels and the loyalist.

It is going to be a war out there.

We match up well.

If we aren't successful in this mission don't throw me under the bus.

[HenryPym]

lol Mr Fantastic.

[Vision]

Originally Posted by Mr.Fantastic

Who is left that hasn't ordered a guard command yet among the prelates?

Originally Posted by Magneto

Vision, I believe, First Prelate.

This is correct, Reed. I stand prepared to make such an order, but have not yet discerned which guard(s) are available, and which Prelate(s) have yet to be guarded. I wonder if a summary might be forthcoming from either of you? That would prove useful indeed.

[Aardwolf]

Originally Posted by Mimic

We've gone to rhetoric to cliches. Nice!

No seriously, I understand and can agree with that philosophy....you do realize that if the mission fails you've put yourself in a position where it looks as if you joined to sabotage it?

I fully understand but I know the goal of my actions which is to destroy the rebellion. I took a chance and hope that it pays off. If I were in the rebellion why would I intentionally do this to bring attention my way?

I would be more suspicious of people accepting the Galactus mission with the "because doom asked" reason. That sounds too much like taking the easy cop out which is just what the rebellion wants, an excuse to use for why they took the actions they did.


As I have said, let me taste rebellion blood and I will be quite happy.

[Mr.Fantastic]

Originally Posted by Vision

This is correct, Reed. I stand prepared to make such an order, but have not yet discerned which guard(s) are available, and which Prelate(s) have yet to be guarded. I wonder if a summary might be forthcoming from either of you? That would prove useful indeed.

I think the only person left is for you to order Magneto to guard yourself.. If I recall correct.

[Magneto]

Originally Posted by Mr.Fantastic

I think the only person left is for you to order Magneto to guard yourself.. If I recall correct.

Correct. First Prelate, Doom has ordered me to be a guard, but my assistance may be helpful on either mission, and time is almost up. THoughts?

[Aardwolf]

Originally Posted by Scarlet Witch

(ooc) I think that happened with the move to Operation Sports (/ooc)

[ooc]Actually I remember having it when we first moved to OS. If that were the case why would the button exist if you open a sent PM? I think something got screwed up when the skins were tampered with shortly after the move. I want my reply all back!!! That way Tyrith doesn't think I am ignoring him when I send PMs to hoops and forget to add him back in.[/ooc]

[Mr.Fantastic]

Originally Posted by Magneto

Correct. First Prelate, Doom has ordered me to be a guard, but my assistance may be helpful on either mission, and time is almost up. THoughts?

I think Doom has been eager to try to balance the need to keep those who he trust more (prelates) safe from harm while forcing everyone else to use their actions to reduce the chances for using those actions against us.

So I think the important thing is that you either guard or get an action in, but by making you a prelate I believe Doom also trusts you and would not like something bad to happen to you this evening either.

[Mr.Fantastic]

Originally Posted by Mr.Fantastic

I think Doom has been eager to try to balance the need to keep those who he trust more (prelates) safe from harm while forcing everyone else to use their actions to reduce the chances for using those actions against us.

So I think the important thing is that you either guard or get an action in, but by making you a prelate I believe Doom also trusts you and would not like something bad to happen to you this evening either.

Either way, I think if you would rather use your points on a mission, I don't know that I feel great about either of them. I feel a bit better about one than the other.. but I'm all about using you to beat the rebels if you don't mind taking the chance you might die tonight. Doom may disagree with me on that, but that is how I feel.

[Aardwolf]

Originally Posted by Mimic

At the same time, you hinted at being a better guard.

Better at night, but not necessarily in guarding others.

[Mimic]

Damn, shit or get off the pot!