Werewolf XXXIV: Tombstone (GAME OVER - Night 13) - Page 46

path12 · 10-17-2006, 10:48 AM

Dola, I didn't hear anything last night, but was visited by ntn, who is now aware of my vice.

Glengoyne · 10-17-2006, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Not that anyone was doubting it, but I think tonight's writeup verifies my being the bartender as tonight would have been the first night I wasn't in the bar at all (Chubby arrested me last night as I was closing the joint down).

Based on the amazing Rum analysis

Execute Glengoyne
Execute Hoopsguy

HOLD your horses there BK. IF I hadn't been arrested, I might have been able to clear you. If I had, I was seriously considering coming clean today.

Swaggs and Rum are townfolk. I'd stake my reputation as a retired judge on it.

Glengoyne · 10-17-2006, 11:10 AM

I've got to head into the office now, but I'll be back for more later.

My ability isn't exactly reliable, in that I am not always able to come to a conclusion, but it was what we had going for us.

Perhaps if Chubby can watch my place after I'm released I'll be able to arrive at a definitive answer on anyone left in jail.

CR's amazing analysis was amazing, but I don't have a gun, so I'm really not much of a suspect.

If anyone is lynched, I vote for Hoops, as he leads my list of candidates.

Glengoyne · 10-17-2006, 12:13 PM

Nothing? I'm arrested, and no one even comes to see me?

What a gyp.

Glengoyne · 10-17-2006, 12:14 PM

For Saldana, Two bullet holes or one?

Chubby · 10-17-2006, 12:18 PM

If glen is claiming retired judge then I'd love to know what saldana was, no need to wait til lynch time to find out now.

Glengoyne · 10-17-2006, 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chubby

If glen is claiming retired judge then I'd love to know what saldana was, no need to wait til lynch time to find out now.

I am most definately the retired judge.

Did you find a gun on Hoops?

Glengoyne · 10-17-2006, 12:25 PM

Damnit I really have a problem spelling definitely with an "A".

Chubby · 10-17-2006, 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glengoyne

I am most definately the retired judge.

Did you find a gun on Hoops?

Yup, mentioned that already.

spleen1015 · 10-17-2006, 12:47 PM

Who is keeping notes on what role everyone has claimed to be? I would like that info, please.

Also, saldana had his throat slit.

Chubby · 10-17-2006, 12:47 PM

To the 2 new people in jail:

What have you done each night?

and if you haven't already answered today: What is your role?

spleen1015 · 10-17-2006, 12:48 PM

Alright, I found the information I was seeking. So, no need to post the roles again. It has already been done.

Do you guys want me to tell you who saldana was?

Chubby · 10-17-2006, 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spleen1015

Who is keeping notes on what role everyone has claimed to be? I would like that info, please.

Also, saldana had his throat slit.

I do and I'm keeping it to myself.

Chief Rum posted last page I think with all the roles claimed.

I thought Saldana was the Retired Judge which was why I wanted you to wait before saying his role since I wanted to see if one of the people I arrested last night would claim it. Now that glen is claiming it you can reveal saldana's role.

Chubby · 10-17-2006, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glengoyne

For Saldana, Two bullet holes or one?

None.

spleen1015 · 10-17-2006, 12:53 PM

Chief Rum has already posted this, but anyway, saldana was the banker.

Racer · 10-17-2006, 01:34 PM

For anyone interested in knowing, Chief approached me last night after I left the saloon but before I walked home. Although I liked what I saw, I told Chief I wasn't in right mood and just wanted to sleep alone for the night.

Swaggs · 10-17-2006, 01:41 PM

Racer, as the butcher, have you had a knife at any point in this game?

Racer · 10-17-2006, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glengoyne

I've got to head into the office now, but I'll be back for more later.

My ability isn't exactly reliable, in that I am not always able to come to a conclusion, but it was what we had going for us.

Perhaps if Chubby can watch my place after I'm released I'll be able to arrive at a definitive answer on anyone left in jail.

CR's amazing analysis was amazing, but I don't have a gun, so I'm really not much of a suspect.

If anyone is lynched, I vote for Hoops, as he leads my list of candidates.

If he leads your list of candidates to be lynched, why haven't you voted to lynch him then?

Racer · 10-17-2006, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swaggs

Racer, as the butcher, have you had a knife at any point in this game?

My inititial PM never say anything about whether or not I had a knife. However, I am certain that Alan T has since come out and said that everyone has a knife so it can be assumed I have one.

Racer · 10-17-2006, 01:46 PM

That should be my intitial PM never "said" anything about whether or not I had a knife not "say".

spleen1015 · 10-17-2006, 01:47 PM

LYNCH Barkeep
LYNCH Glengoyne
LYNCH hoopsguy

I still believe that Barkeep and hoops are playing a good villager game as cowboys. I would really like to see both hang today.

Do we know if the cowboys get to perform their night actions before they were jailed?

Swaggs · 10-17-2006, 01:54 PM

Nice work, CR. That was some Alan T.-quality work, in a game where he isn't available to give us that sort of info.

I think Glengoyne has made pretty sensible analysis this game, so I'm in a wait and see mode with him. For a few days, I have felt like there is a veteran, behind the scenes, pulling some strings for the Cowboys.

LYNCH hoopsguy
LYNCH Barkeep

These two need to be checked for weapons, in my opinion:
JAIL Anxiety
JAIL Racer

I think today would be a good day for some reveals, as I'd like to see us take a nice chunk out of the Cowboys and get them out of their comfort zone.

Swaggs · 10-17-2006, 01:56 PM

Alan, does everyone have a knife? (or is that something we should know?)

path12 · 10-17-2006, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swaggs

Alan, does everyone have a knife? (or is that something we should know?)

I believe he said earlier that everyone has a small knife. Don't know if it's enough to kill with or if there are different ones for the cowboys.

Swaggs · 10-17-2006, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by path12

I believe he said earlier that everyone has a small knife. Don't know if it's enough to kill with or if there are different ones for the cowboys.

Are we assuming that is what st. cronin killed with?

If everyone has one, they are not mentioned by name during jailings.

Alan T · 10-17-2006, 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swaggs

Alan, does everyone have a knife? (or is that something we should know?)

Everyone has some form of knife they carry around with them. As mentioned in the rules, the only item specifically mentioned getting off of people are guns or in some cases money. Other items (books, papers, shovels, horses, whatever) are mentioned at times in PMs or the storyline based on someone's role but are there mainly for story continuity.

Glengoyne · 10-17-2006, 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chubby

Yup, mentioned that already.

Sorry I was sort of pre-occupied with my arrest and all.

I'm actually shocked I was targetted ahead of Racer. Make that shocked and annoyed

.

Glengoyne · 10-17-2006, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chubby

To the 2 new people in jail:

What have you done each night?

and if you haven't already answered today: What is your role?

My night action allows me to review the people that spent the day in jail. I review their testimony, and get an indication of whether or not they are telling the truth.

Well I'm supposed to get an indication, but that hasn't always happened.

I've performed the action every night, and I've been very frank with my results.

My role is that of a weak seer.

Glengoyne · 10-17-2006, 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spleen1015

LYNCH Barkeep
LYNCH Glengoyne
LYNCH hoopsguy

I still believe that Barkeep and hoops are playing a good villager game as cowboys. I would really like to see both hang today.

Do we know if the cowboys get to perform their night actions before they were jailed?

Rum comes out as a brothel girl, and we let him go. I come out with a seer type role, and you want me lynched?

Who cleared you?

Glengoyne · 10-17-2006, 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racer

If he leads your list of candidates to be lynched, why haven't you voted to lynch him then?

I just got in jail. This is new to me.

What I should say is that the Cowboys are on this list

Quote:

Voted for Both GE and Gram:
hoopsguy, Racer, Sndvls, path, Spleen, lathum, Fouts,Ntndeacon

Glengoyne · 10-17-2006, 02:36 PM

I've felt for some time that either Path or Hoops were cowboys. Possibly both of them.

Glengoyne · 10-17-2006, 02:40 PM

On lynching.

If we lynch I say we lynch Hoops.

Alternatively release me, see what efforts can be made to keep me alive for the night. I will possibly be able to come to a conclusion on anyone still in jail, and let you know what the outcome is.

I wasn't able to consider Barkeep's case last night, as Hoop's whimpering kept me awake

.

As for protecting me. I don't think even making me sheriff would help...as I would be unprotected while performing my night action.

spleen1015 · 10-17-2006, 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glengoyne

Rum comes out as a brothel girl, and we let him go. I come out with a seer type role, and you want me lynched?

Who cleared you?

No one has cleared me, but I don't need to be at this point. Would like me to unlynch your ass?

hoopsguy · 10-17-2006, 02:43 PM

Picked a bad day to show up late, it appears.

I'm a brother. I was not told who the other brother was at the start of the game, only that I had to find him. Night One I get a PM telling me that he has been turned. I asked Alan about this - seemed like a pretty big coincidence, but he has been non-commital on this all game long.

Paraphrasing here, my role includes the ability to seek out my long-lost brother, which was why I came to Tombstone. I can search for him at night by visiting the house. I don't know what benefit I was supposed to get from meeting up with him (would guess PM rights) but it is pretty inconsequential since we are operating on different teams.

I searched on Nights 1, 3, and 5 for him. My Night 1 PM revealed that my brother had joined the Cowboys. On nights 3 and 5 I considered the people I would think are most likely to have a vice for money based on their revealed roles. I knew that my brother had a vice for money, based on my knowledge of his character.

Night 1: Barkeep (pretty random, played a lot of games together)
Night 3: SnDvls (had hinted at miner)
Night 5: Saldana (came out and revealed banker)

All three of these people were home on the night that I visited them. I did not get information that seemed to help with identifying the role.

If you do go ahead and lynch me I would encourage you to take at least one person with me. You are not going to get a Cowboy with my death and I don't want to see us lose another day.

Swaggs · 10-17-2006, 02:44 PM

Glen, so you do not have 100% success in determining roles?

Can you tell us what you have done each night?

Alan T · 10-17-2006, 02:45 PM

A hair over 6 hours remain till deadline. Current vote totals:

Election votes: (7 votes needed for new sheriff)

No new sheriff votes.

Lynch votes: (7 votes needed for lynch)

(2) Barkeep - Spleen (2271), swaggs (2272)

(4) Glengoyne - Chief Rum (2234), Barkeep (2241), Racer (2245), Spleen (2271)

(5) Hoopsguy - Chief RUm (2234), Barkeep (2241), Racer (2245), Spleen (2271), Swaggs (2272)

Swaggs · 10-17-2006, 02:45 PM

hoops, will you be voting to lynch the other two tonight?

Glengoyne · 10-17-2006, 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spleen1015

No one has cleared me, but I don't need to be at this point. Would like me to unlynch your ass?

After what I've come out with, anyone doing any sort of reasonable review of my posts, wouldn't still have me marked for lynching. Everyone, save Rum, should be off of lynching me before tonight.

Certainly lynching three people who might be villagers, I know you've got at least one, is a bad idea. It works great if BK and Hoops are Cowboys, but it is a bad trade from the town's perspective.

One note. Not only are Hoops and Path on the short list of would be cowboys, but so are the perpetrators of the false CoT. That should be food for thought, as I wasn't able to get a read on Lathum.

Glengoyne · 10-17-2006, 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swaggs

Glen, so you do not have 100% success in determining roles?

Can you tell us what you have done each night?

Nope.

I've reviewed the statements of everyone jailed during the day.

I came to positive, or as nearly as I can be satisfied, results for GE, Gram(sort of obviously), Swaggs, LSG(too late), and CR.

I wasn't able to make a determination on Lathum or Barkeep.

I quite often fail to come to a conclusion on a person's first night in the pokey.

Swaggs · 10-17-2006, 02:57 PM

Glen, can you work from jail?

If so, I think it might be a good, safe spot for you.

Swaggs · 10-17-2006, 02:58 PM

I'm out for a few hours.

Hopefully there will be some more discussion while I am gone. It has gotten a little bit too quiet.

spleen1015 · 10-17-2006, 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Picked a bad day to show up late, it appears.

I'm a brother. I was not told who the other brother was at the start of the game, only that I had to find him. Night One I get a PM telling me that he has been turned. I asked Alan about this - seemed like a pretty big coincidence, but he has been non-commital on this all game long.

Paraphrasing here, my role includes the ability to seek out my long-lost brother, which was why I came to Tombstone. I can search for him at night by visiting the house. I don't know what benefit I was supposed to get from meeting up with him (would guess PM rights) but it is pretty inconsequential since we are operating on different teams.

I searched on Nights 1, 3, and 5 for him. My Night 1 PM revealed that my brother had joined the Cowboys. On nights 3 and 5 I considered the people I would think are most likely to have a vice for money based on their revealed roles. I knew that my brother had a vice for money, based on my knowledge of his character.

Night 1: Barkeep (pretty random, played a lot of games together)
Night 3: SnDvls (had hinted at miner)
Night 5: Saldana (came out and revealed banker)

All three of these people were home on the night that I visited them. I did not get information that seemed to help with identifying the role.

If you do go ahead and lynch me I would encourage you to take at least one person with me. You are not going to get a Cowboy with my death and I don't want to see us lose another day.

Damn, hoops. If you're a cowboy, you're playing a good game. I really don't want to vote to lynch you anymore, but I still carry the strong feeling that you are a cowboy.

We'll see what happens the rest of the day. I know for sure I'm not going to move my votes from Glen and Barkeep.

Glengoyne · 10-17-2006, 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swaggs

Glen, can you work from jail?

If so, I think it might be a good, safe spot for you.

I would expect that being in jail would prevent me from performing my night action.

Last night I completed my night action before being arrested. I previously thought Chubby had interrupted me, but I finished my consideration, and yet again failed to come to a conclusion.

Jailing me would keep a villager safe, but wouldn't allow me to perform my role (I don't think it would).

Now that Hoops is up, he is banging his cup on the bars, and it doesn't look like he is going to let up. I don't think I could concentrate.

Glengoyne · 10-17-2006, 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spleen1015

Damn, hoops. If you're a cowboy, you're playing a good game. I really don't want to vote to lynch you anymore, but I still carry the strong feeling that you are a cowboy.

We'll see what happens the rest of the day. I know for sure I'm not going to move my votes from Glen and Barkeep.

Cowboy.

hoopsguy · 10-17-2006, 03:16 PM

Swaggs, here is the answer to your question:

VOTE LYNCH BARKEEP
VOTE LYNCH GLENGOYNE
VOTE NO LYNCH HOOPSGUY (FREE HOOPS!)

hoopsguy · 10-17-2006, 03:20 PM

There also seems to be a decent amount of suspicion around me from Night 3. Here is how my night went, in order:

1.) Visited by NTN
2.) Went to SnDvls house
3.) Heard shots, went to investigate. Saw Chubby, Bullet, and Gramm. Reported all info immediately on Day 4.

For people to think that I was the shooter, I would have had to go from being visited by NTN (have no idea if that is possible for a Cowboy) to complete my kill. I would then have to elude the people who showed up but still make an appearance on the scene rather than escaping into the night. There is a little concept called Occam's Razor that seems to appear in these games from time to time - how does this scenario match up with that?

hoopsguy · 10-17-2006, 03:21 PM

If anyone wants to ask questions today I'll answer them to the best of my ability. I'll be out of pocket for awhile this afternoon with meetings but by and large will be available for the next hour and for awhile before deadline.

spleen1015 · 10-17-2006, 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glengoyne

Cowboy.

Yeah, I'm a cowboy. Jail me and lynch me.

Think about it like this, boys. The purpose of the Mortician is to find out what the roles are for those that die. With everyone revealing their roles, this skill is not very useful beyond identifying how someone was killed. This ability is pretty much useless when you consider the fact that when someone gets killed by gun, there are other folks in town who hear the gunshots. So, based on that, you know how each cowboy victim bites it.

Given the information that the Mortician gains with each death, it makes no sense for the Mortician to start the game as a cowboy. His information doesn't help the cowboys very much.

I'm not a cowboy and I don't think there is anyone beyond you who really thinks that I am. You're making an attempt to divert the attention away from yourself and it's not going to work. Hopefully, you get lynched today and we get to hang another red shash trophy in the center of town.

Racer · 10-17-2006, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glengoyne

My night action allows me to review the people that spent the day in jail. I review their testimony, and get an indication of whether or not they are telling the truth.

Well I'm supposed to get an indication, but that hasn't always happened.

I've performed the action every night, and I've been very frank with my results.

My role is that of a weak seer.

Shouldn't you be appearing tired then?

hoopsguy · 10-17-2006, 03:41 PM

In the event that Glen is who he says he is please vote to jail/lynch Chief Rum as quickly as possible. His monster post last night - which included no references to post numbers for anyone to cross-reference his "findings" - is very reminiscent of an Ardent Enthusiast move from the Harry Potter game Saldana ran. Basically, it was a bad guy coming out with tremendous "analysis" mid-way through the game which convinced everyone that he was innocent all the way until the end. Long posts do not equal good guy - I speak as a guy who isn't afraid to throw words together on either side of past games.

Also, I think it is important to note that I'm not able to provide information on any conversion activity beyond the initial one. The fact that two people who had money (both had loot in their house when they were killed) are now dead is a strong indicator to me that there is going to be another conversion. There may have been another one already, as the initial conversion took place alongside a kill on Night 1.

10-17-2006, 10:48 AM	#2251
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	Dola, I didn't hear anything last night, but was visited by ntn, who is now aware of my vice. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

10-17-2006, 01:41 PM	#2267
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Racer, as the butcher, have you had a knife at any point in this game? __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

10-17-2006, 01:54 PM	#2272
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Nice work, CR. That was some Alan T.-quality work, in a game where he isn't available to give us that sort of info. I think Glengoyne has made pretty sensible analysis this game, so I'm in a wait and see mode with him. For a few days, I have felt like there is a veteran, behind the scenes, pulling some strings for the Cowboys. LYNCH hoopsguy LYNCH Barkeep These two need to be checked for weapons, in my opinion: JAIL Anxiety JAIL Racer I think today would be a good day for some reveals, as I'd like to see us take a nice chunk out of the Cowboys and get them out of their comfort zone. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

10-17-2006, 01:56 PM	#2273
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Alan, does everyone have a knife? (or is that something we should know?) __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

10-17-2006, 02:40 PM	#2282
Glengoyne Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Fresno, CA	On lynching. If we lynch I say we lynch Hoops. Alternatively release me, see what efforts can be made to keep me alive for the night. I will possibly be able to come to a conclusion on anyone still in jail, and let you know what the outcome is. I wasn't able to consider Barkeep's case last night, as Hoop's whimpering kept me awake. As for protecting me. I don't think even making me sheriff would help...as I would be unprotected while performing my night action.

10-17-2006, 11:10 AM	#2253
Glengoyne Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Fresno, CA	I've got to head into the office now, but I'll be back for more later. My ability isn't exactly reliable, in that I am not always able to come to a conclusion, but it was what we had going for us. Perhaps if Chubby can watch my place after I'm released I'll be able to arrive at a definitive answer on anyone left in jail. CR's amazing analysis was amazing, but I don't have a gun, so I'm really not much of a suspect. If anyone is lynched, I vote for Hoops, as he leads my list of candidates.

10-17-2006, 12:13 PM	#2254
Glengoyne Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Fresno, CA	Nothing? I'm arrested, and no one even comes to see me? What a gyp.

10-17-2006, 12:14 PM	#2255
Glengoyne Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Fresno, CA	For Saldana, Two bullet holes or one?

10-17-2006, 12:18 PM	#2256
Chubby Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Syracuse, NY	If glen is claiming retired judge then I'd love to know what saldana was, no need to wait til lynch time to find out now.

10-17-2006, 12:25 PM	#2258
Glengoyne Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Fresno, CA	Damnit I really have a problem spelling definitely with an "A".

10-17-2006, 12:47 PM	#2260
spleen1015 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003	Who is keeping notes on what role everyone has claimed to be? I would like that info, please. Also, saldana had his throat slit.

10-17-2006, 12:47 PM	#2261
Chubby Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Syracuse, NY	To the 2 new people in jail: What have you done each night? and if you haven't already answered today: What is your role?

10-17-2006, 12:48 PM	#2262
spleen1015 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003	Alright, I found the information I was seeking. So, no need to post the roles again. It has already been done. Do you guys want me to tell you who saldana was?

10-17-2006, 12:53 PM	#2265
spleen1015 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003	Chief Rum has already posted this, but anyway, saldana was the banker.

10-17-2006, 01:34 PM	#2266
Racer College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fort Wayne, Indiana	For anyone interested in knowing, Chief approached me last night after I left the saloon but before I walked home. Although I liked what I saw, I told Chief I wasn't in right mood and just wanted to sleep alone for the night.

10-17-2006, 01:46 PM	#2270
Racer College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fort Wayne, Indiana	That should be my intitial PM never "said" anything about whether or not I had a knife not "say".

10-17-2006, 01:47 PM	#2271
spleen1015 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003	LYNCH Barkeep LYNCH Glengoyne LYNCH hoopsguy I still believe that Barkeep and hoops are playing a good villager game as cowboys. I would really like to see both hang today. Do we know if the cowboys get to perform their night actions before they were jailed?

10-17-2006, 02:36 PM	#2281
Glengoyne Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Fresno, CA	I've felt for some time that either Path or Hoops were cowboys. Possibly both of them.

10-17-2006, 02:43 PM	#2284
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Picked a bad day to show up late, it appears. I'm a brother. I was not told who the other brother was at the start of the game, only that I had to find him. Night One I get a PM telling me that he has been turned. I asked Alan about this - seemed like a pretty big coincidence, but he has been non-commital on this all game long. Paraphrasing here, my role includes the ability to seek out my long-lost brother, which was why I came to Tombstone. I can search for him at night by visiting the house. I don't know what benefit I was supposed to get from meeting up with him (would guess PM rights) but it is pretty inconsequential since we are operating on different teams. I searched on Nights 1, 3, and 5 for him. My Night 1 PM revealed that my brother had joined the Cowboys. On nights 3 and 5 I considered the people I would think are most likely to have a vice for money based on their revealed roles. I knew that my brother had a vice for money, based on my knowledge of his character. Night 1: Barkeep (pretty random, played a lot of games together) Night 3: SnDvls (had hinted at miner) Night 5: Saldana (came out and revealed banker) All three of these people were home on the night that I visited them. I did not get information that seemed to help with identifying the role. If you do go ahead and lynch me I would encourage you to take at least one person with me. You are not going to get a Cowboy with my death and I don't want to see us lose another day.

10-17-2006, 02:44 PM	#2285
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Glen, so you do not have 100% success in determining roles? Can you tell us what you have done each night? __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

10-17-2006, 02:45 PM	#2286
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	A hair over 6 hours remain till deadline. Current vote totals: Election votes: (7 votes needed for new sheriff) No new sheriff votes. Lynch votes: (7 votes needed for lynch) (2) Barkeep - Spleen (2271), swaggs (2272) (4) Glengoyne - Chief Rum (2234), Barkeep (2241), Racer (2245), Spleen (2271) (5) Hoopsguy - Chief RUm (2234), Barkeep (2241), Racer (2245), Spleen (2271), Swaggs (2272)

10-17-2006, 02:45 PM	#2287
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	hoops, will you be voting to lynch the other two tonight? __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

10-17-2006, 02:57 PM	#2290
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Glen, can you work from jail? If so, I think it might be a good, safe spot for you. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

10-17-2006, 02:58 PM	#2291
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	I'm out for a few hours. Hopefully there will be some more discussion while I am gone. It has gotten a little bit too quiet. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

10-17-2006, 03:16 PM	#2295
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Swaggs, here is the answer to your question: VOTE LYNCH BARKEEP VOTE LYNCH GLENGOYNE VOTE NO LYNCH HOOPSGUY (FREE HOOPS!)

10-17-2006, 03:20 PM	#2296
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	There also seems to be a decent amount of suspicion around me from Night 3. Here is how my night went, in order: 1.) Visited by NTN 2.) Went to SnDvls house 3.) Heard shots, went to investigate. Saw Chubby, Bullet, and Gramm. Reported all info immediately on Day 4. For people to think that I was the shooter, I would have had to go from being visited by NTN (have no idea if that is possible for a Cowboy) to complete my kill. I would then have to elude the people who showed up but still make an appearance on the scene rather than escaping into the night. There is a little concept called Occam's Razor that seems to appear in these games from time to time - how does this scenario match up with that?

10-17-2006, 03:21 PM	#2297
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	If anyone wants to ask questions today I'll answer them to the best of my ability. I'll be out of pocket for awhile this afternoon with meetings but by and large will be available for the next hour and for awhile before deadline.

10-17-2006, 03:41 PM	#2300
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	In the event that Glen is who he says he is please vote to jail/lynch Chief Rum as quickly as possible. His monster post last night - which included no references to post numbers for anyone to cross-reference his "findings" - is very reminiscent of an Ardent Enthusiast move from the Harry Potter game Saldana ran. Basically, it was a bad guy coming out with tremendous "analysis" mid-way through the game which convinced everyone that he was innocent all the way until the end. Long posts do not equal good guy - I speak as a guy who isn't afraid to throw words together on either side of past games. Also, I think it is important to note that I'm not able to provide information on any conversion activity beyond the initial one. The fact that two people who had money (both had loot in their house when they were killed) are now dead is a strong indicator to me that there is going to be another conversion. There may have been another one already, as the initial conversion took place alongside a kill on Night 1.

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