The Walking Dead -- TV Series Thread - Page 48

Mota · 03-12-2014, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenEagle

Also, do we know for sure Beth was kidnapped? She could have just got in the hearse.

THey did specifically say several times that someone has been living in that house recently because it was so clean. They wouldn't have done that if there was no payoff to it. I'm guessing that's the payoff.

stevew · 03-12-2014, 03:25 PM

I didn't have my contacts in so I had no idea it was a hearse.

stevew · 03-15-2014, 05:21 PM

The next episode apparently leaked. There are some photo heavy spoilers out there.

stevew · 03-16-2014, 09:00 PM

what the fuck. I read the spoilers but this is even worse than i expected.

Dutch · 03-16-2014, 09:12 PM

Pretty crazy episode (literally, I suppose).

Draft Dodger · 03-16-2014, 09:31 PM

well that was a light-hearted romp

PilotMan · 03-16-2014, 09:42 PM

Now that was a top 5 episode.

Possibly the best of the season, and right in the vein of the whole series.

DaddyTorgo · 03-16-2014, 10:25 PM

It's funny cuz you think the older girl would be the more badass when it comes to zombies, but she's like...totally damaged.

DaddyTorgo · 03-16-2014, 10:43 PM

Watching on DVR, yeah umm...obviously didn't see that coming.

Radii · 03-17-2014, 12:05 AM

I wasn't as shocked as maybe I should have been ("I know what I have to do now" clearly was not in response to what Carol was telling her about walkers being bad), but it still hit the mark pretty damn well. Also, I was really happy to see Carol's confession, as opposed to some big deceit thing as Tyrese gets closer and closer to her and finds out what happened once they met back up with Rick.

This is the closest Walking Dead has come to delivering a half season without doing something ridiculously bad to piss me off(the governor like 5 times over), or to have me fast forwarding through parts (ie Lori on the farm). Hopefully they can stick these last few!

stevew · 03-17-2014, 12:17 AM

The smoky walkers probably came from where Daryl and Amy did that dumb shit and set the house on fire, right?

DaddyTorgo · 03-17-2014, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by stevew

The smoky walkers probably came from where Daryl and Amy did that dumb shit and set the house on fire, right?

Good point - that hadn't occurred to me.

GoldenEagle · 03-17-2014, 06:18 AM

My wife said that, but I doubt it. It just depends on how far they have gone from the prison.

JediKooter · 03-17-2014, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

OMG, was that some major foreshadowing in next week's preview or what?

Spoiler

I caught the Fallout reference as well, even showed an old radio too in that shot. Thought to myself, "Nice placement".

This whole Terminus/Sanctuary thing totally reminds me of Logan's Run. In Logan's Run, the Runners were trying to get to Sanctuary, so they could live longer. However (and sorry to spoil it for anyone), come to find out, Sanctuary doesn't exist. Could Terminus not exist and it's a trap of some kind?

Probably not, as it seems like they are spending a lot of time on getting the group back together, so it would seem kind of silly if Terminus doesn't exist.

BYU 14 · 03-17-2014, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by JediKooter

I caught the Fallout reference as well, even showed an old radio too in that shot. Thought to myself, "Nice placement".

I was hoping the episode lived up to such an awesome opening and wow did it deliver. Definitely the best episode of the season IMO, really well paced and shocking.

SteveMax58 · 03-17-2014, 08:44 AM

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The smoky walkers probably came from where Daryl and Amy did that dumb shit and set the house on fire, right?

Thats the most likely scenario I can think of. Wouldnt make any sense to be some "other fire" and it also gives a perspective of overlapping time between these mini-groups.

Wow...that episode was pretty well done. The girl that plays Lizzie did a great job with her role and has a pretty solid future ahead of her.

I think my favorite character is now Carol given that she makes the tough choices and decisions, when they need to be made, and I think that makes for compelling characters. A lot more than I can say for Rick.

Honolulu_Blue · 03-17-2014, 08:44 AM

That was a really strong episode. Probably one of my favorites of the show. Melissa McBride (Carol) was fantastic. She acted the shit out of all of that.

Edward64 · 03-17-2014, 08:47 AM

I enjoyed the episode.

TBH, if I was Carol, I would have done it when she was asleep or drugged up with whatever was in the drug cabinet.

panerd · 03-17-2014, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by stevew

The smoky walkers probably came from where Daryl and Amy did that dumb shit and set the house on fire, right?

Yes I think it was supposed to show that decisions like that have consequences as you could say the little girl was murdered as a result of the burnt zombie attack on the house.

Agree on the show being one of the best. I have complained about single group episodes (and will stick by it with the Bob group and the Daryll one) but this one was done exceptionally well.

stevew · 03-17-2014, 08:52 AM

There has to be some payoff to keeping Judith alive, right? They've now missed out on at least 2-3 easy chances to kill her. Wasn't there some talk of how she was important and maybe uninfected? Maybe all babies are uninfected? Would make for a great boning montage as they create a new world of babies.

panerd · 03-17-2014, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by stevew

There has to be some payoff to keeping Judith alive, right? They've now missed out on at least 2-3 easy chances to kill her. Wasn't there some talk of how she was important and maybe uninfected? Maybe all babies are uninfected? Would make for a great boning montage as they create a new world of babies.

It is also the main star's daughter so I would think it will also payoff when the groups eventually meet back up.

Radii · 03-17-2014, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by panerd

It is also the main star's daughter so I would think it will also payoff when the groups eventually meet back up.

I assume this.

DaddyTorgo · 03-17-2014, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by stevew

There has to be some payoff to keeping Judith alive, right? They've now missed out on at least 2-3 easy chances to kill her. Wasn't there some talk of how she was important and maybe uninfected? Maybe all babies are uninfected? Would make for a great boning montage as they create a new world of babies.

It wouldn't surprise me if this was the case...

Surtt · 03-17-2014, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by stevew

There has to be some payoff to keeping Judith alive, right? They've now missed out on at least 2-3 easy chances to kill her. Wasn't there some talk of how she was important and maybe uninfected? Maybe all babies are uninfected? Would make for a great boning montage as they create a new world of babies.

How would they know unless she dies and does not turn?

DaddyTorgo · 03-17-2014, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Surtt

How would they know unless she dies and does not turn?

Maybe she gets bit and doesn't turn?

Maybe they find a secure hospital with a doctor who does a biopsy on some brain tissue of hers?

I dunno.

SteveMax58 · 03-17-2014, 12:30 PM

My speculation on Judith being kept alive is purely to cement the friendship & loyalty between Rick & Tyrese.

Wouldnt surprise me if she is taken away as soon as she is back with Rick, but I think she satys alive until reunited with Rick & Carl (at least).

Grammaticus · 03-18-2014, 06:57 AM

Pretty good episode, Steinbeck meets Fallout.

JediKooter · 03-18-2014, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by BYU 14

I was hoping the episode lived up to such an awesome opening and wow did it deliver. Definitely the best episode of the season IMO, really well paced and shocking.

Yes, I was very pleasantly surprised. I can't really complain one bit about the episode other than Sunday needs to hurry and get here.

law90026 · 03-18-2014, 10:55 PM

The episode was really good at most parts. The acting by Carol was amazing and she really carried the episode. By far the best character in the show at this time.

Overall though, season has been mostly a miss for me. Way too much pointless meandering and backstory. That may work in a comic medium but it's just not good tv.

Radii · 03-19-2014, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by law90026

Way too much pointless meandering and backstory.

I know its 100% subjective, but its funny to see such a polar opposite.

This is exactly why I think its the best half season of Walking Dead to date. The lack of backstory and character development is by far the weakest part of the show over the last 3 years IMO. What they're doing now is actually making me care about some of these people literally for the first time in the entire run of the show.

DaddyTorgo · 03-19-2014, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Radii

I know its 100% subjective, but its funny to see such a polar opposite.

This is exactly why I think its the best half season of Walking Dead to date. The lack of backstory and character development is by far the weakest part of the show over the last 3 years IMO. What they're doing now is actually making me care about some of these people literally for the first time in the entire run of the show.

This x1000

stevew · 03-19-2014, 02:01 AM

of the 3 or 4 show runners(wow), this guy is not as good as Darabont but he's better than the last 1 or 2. Darabont was the only one who really dared to give us a larger world and did a good job of crafting some really cool original characters. I really worry that we're still just on rails to another prisonfarm here.

Draft Dodger · 03-19-2014, 06:27 AM

yeah, I love the attention given to character development. it is so long overdue.

Honolulu_Blue · 03-19-2014, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew

of the 3 or 4 show runners(wow), this guy is not as good as Darabont but he's better than the last 1 or 2. Darabont was the only one who really dared to give us a larger world and did a good job of crafting some really cool original characters. I really worry that we're still just on rails to another prisonfarm here.

There are pretty much two options when it comes to this sort of thing for the characters: be on the move or try to hole up in some location.

Either of these things can be interesting. The farm wasn't interesting because the characters just kept going around in circles both literally, in their search for Sophie Anne, and in terms of character development, which was largely focused on Rick-Shane-Lori with just a sprinkling of some other characters.

I thought the time in the prison was fine. They had new challenges and some different things for different people to do. The second half of last season dragged a bit because it felt like they were stretching the Governor story a bit thin - the worst episode being the one where he was tracking Andrea down like some sort of villain in a slasher flick. That wasn't very good.

Overall, I've been pretty pleased with this season. A few episodes haven't quite worked, but largely I've been pretty happy with it.

Bonegavel · 03-20-2014, 10:14 AM

I guess I'm alone with not liking this episode. Yawn. The girl had to go and it wasn't a heart wrenching moment because Carol wanted to off Lizzie the entire episode. In the beginning when the kid goes berserk after Carol kills her "friend" Carol has "Oh, you must die" written all over her face.

stevew · 03-23-2014, 09:24 PM

So crazy that NBC has resorted to running ads during The Walking Dead just to promote that silly Crisis show.

stevew · 03-23-2014, 09:40 PM

Is terminus literally the exterior of the prison set with a different coat of paint?

JonInMiddleGA · 03-23-2014, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew

Is terminus literally the exterior of the prison set with a different coat of paint?

I'll say no here but only because -- IIRC -- I've heard talk about the destruction of most of the prison set.

Presumably the similarities were highly intentional, meant to evoke the safety of The Prison, Part Two.

DaddyTorgo · 03-23-2014, 10:33 PM

Terminus seems...eerie.

Definitely don't have a good feeling about it (no surprise).

JonInMiddleGA · 03-23-2014, 10:43 PM

Don't eat the bbq.

Jus sayin.

DaddyTorgo · 03-23-2014, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Don't eat the bbq.

Jus sayin.

Yup. That seemed like the most likely scenario IMO.

stevew · 03-24-2014, 12:03 AM

I'll make you a plate.

Literally.

Radii · 03-24-2014, 12:48 AM

Man, I must be really dense here. I didn't recognize that the people Daryl is with are the ones that were in the house with Rick until I read a review. Even when they were talking about the one guy that got a look at him (when Rick was hiding under the bed), it didn't click.

As for Terminus, I'm thinking the same thing you all are it looks like... but I did watch this week's Hannibal right before Walking Dead, so I may have been predisposed towards the "BBQ IS PEOPLE" assumption.

Also... this scientist dude isn't seriously saving the world is he? Only problem I have right now is he comes off as *so* dumb that I can't actually believe that he fooled military action hero dude into taking up this cause for him. I dunno, I'm mildly curious at this point, but those two dudes and the stripper girlfriend are basically caricatures at this point to me and barely actual people. Perhaps that's a nod to the comics, but as someone who hasn't read them, that's my read on them so far.

stevew · 03-24-2014, 01:33 AM

how dumb was that asian chick on hannibal. At least she can spend time getting ready for the summer season of Big Brother.

panerd · 03-24-2014, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

Terminus seems...eerie.

Definitely don't have a good feeling about it (no surprise).

Yeah I get the vibe it is like the one house in The Road. Human's locked like cows in the basement for food.

DaddyTorgo · 03-24-2014, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Radii

Also... this scientist dude isn't seriously saving the world is he? Only problem I have right now is he comes off as *so* dumb that I can't actually believe that he fooled military action hero dude into taking up this cause for him.

Spoiler

stevew · 03-24-2014, 03:31 PM

Is it possible that Terminus is just some brief stop off point and the next season will completely go in some other direction? Like i think there was some serious maggie/glenn forshadowing during the episode. I wonder if one or the other will die. Also, why was there so much food available at that place that Daryl and Beth were at? Is it possible that they had developed a taste for other types of meat? Maybe we'll see Beth this week?

Thomkal · 03-24-2014, 07:45 PM

Daryl's biker gang friends need to die quickly-preferably eaten alive by the zombies

Honolulu_Blue · 03-24-2014, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal

Daryl's biker gang friends need to die quickly-preferably eaten alive by the zombies

Claimed.

Sorry, dude. That's my thought now. Please come up with another.

Oh, and... your Beloved Cards? Claimed!

stevew · 03-24-2014, 08:16 PM

The thought that Eugene is actually aware of the epidemic causation breathes way more life into the show for me. I assume he's lying but some actual "hope" type arc would serve this show well. I know this is in contrast to the hopelessness of the comics but that is a totally different medium. I'd be fine with 6 seasons and some movies.

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03-17-2014, 06:18 AM	#2363
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03-17-2014, 08:44 AM	#2367
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03-12-2014, 03:25 PM	#2352
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	I didn't have my contacts in so I had no idea it was a hearse.

03-15-2014, 05:21 PM	#2353
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	The next episode apparently leaked. There are some photo heavy spoilers out there.

03-16-2014, 09:00 PM	#2354
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	what the fuck. I read the spoilers but this is even worse than i expected.

03-16-2014, 09:12 PM	#2355
Dutch "Dutch" Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Tampa, FL	Pretty crazy episode (literally, I suppose).

03-16-2014, 10:43 PM	#2359
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	Watching on DVR, yeah umm...obviously didn't see that coming.

03-17-2014, 12:05 AM	#2360
Radii Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	I wasn't as shocked as maybe I should have been ("I know what I have to do now" clearly was not in response to what Carol was telling her about walkers being bad), but it still hit the mark pretty damn well. Also, I was really happy to see Carol's confession, as opposed to some big deceit thing as Tyrese gets closer and closer to her and finds out what happened once they met back up with Rick. This is the closest Walking Dead has come to delivering a half season without doing something ridiculously bad to piss me off(the governor like 5 times over), or to have me fast forwarding through parts (ie Lori on the farm). Hopefully they can stick these last few!

03-17-2014, 12:17 AM	#2361
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	The smoky walkers probably came from where Daryl and Amy did that dumb shit and set the house on fire, right?

03-17-2014, 08:47 AM	#2368
Edward64 Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2005	I enjoyed the episode. TBH, if I was Carol, I would have done it when she was asleep or drugged up with whatever was in the drug cabinet.

03-17-2014, 08:52 AM	#2370
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	There has to be some payoff to keeping Judith alive, right? They've now missed out on at least 2-3 easy chances to kill her. Wasn't there some talk of how she was important and maybe uninfected? Maybe all babies are uninfected? Would make for a great boning montage as they create a new world of babies.

03-17-2014, 12:30 PM	#2376
SteveMax58 College Starter Join Date: Dec 2006	My speculation on Judith being kept alive is purely to cement the friendship & loyalty between Rick & Tyrese. Wouldnt surprise me if she is taken away as soon as she is back with Rick, but I think she satys alive until reunited with Rick & Carl (at least).

03-18-2014, 06:57 AM	#2377
Grammaticus Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Tennessee	Pretty good episode, Steinbeck meets Fallout.

03-18-2014, 10:55 PM	#2379
law90026 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2006	The episode was really good at most parts. The acting by Carol was amazing and she really carried the episode. By far the best character in the show at this time. Overall though, season has been mostly a miss for me. Way too much pointless meandering and backstory. That may work in a comic medium but it's just not good tv.

03-19-2014, 02:01 AM	#2382
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	of the 3 or 4 show runners(wow), this guy is not as good as Darabont but he's better than the last 1 or 2. Darabont was the only one who really dared to give us a larger world and did a good job of crafting some really cool original characters. I really worry that we're still just on rails to another prisonfarm here.

03-19-2014, 06:27 AM	#2383
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03-20-2014, 10:14 AM	#2385
Bonegavel Awaiting Further Instructions... Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Macungie, PA	I guess I'm alone with not liking this episode. Yawn. The girl had to go and it wasn't a heart wrenching moment because Carol wanted to off Lizzie the entire episode. In the beginning when the kid goes berserk after Carol kills her "friend" Carol has "Oh, you must die" written all over her face. __________________

03-23-2014, 09:24 PM	#2386
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	So crazy that NBC has resorted to running ads during The Walking Dead just to promote that silly Crisis show. Last edited by stevew : 03-23-2014 at 09:41 PM.

03-23-2014, 09:40 PM	#2387
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Is terminus literally the exterior of the prison set with a different coat of paint?

03-23-2014, 10:33 PM	#2389
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	Terminus seems...eerie. Definitely don't have a good feeling about it (no surprise).

03-23-2014, 10:43 PM	#2390
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Don't eat the bbq. Jus sayin. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

03-24-2014, 12:03 AM	#2392
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	I'll make you a plate. Literally.

03-24-2014, 12:48 AM	#2393
Radii Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Man, I must be really dense here. I didn't recognize that the people Daryl is with are the ones that were in the house with Rick until I read a review. Even when they were talking about the one guy that got a look at him (when Rick was hiding under the bed), it didn't click. As for Terminus, I'm thinking the same thing you all are it looks like... but I did watch this week's Hannibal right before Walking Dead, so I may have been predisposed towards the "BBQ IS PEOPLE" assumption. Also... this scientist dude isn't seriously saving the world is he? Only problem I have right now is he comes off as so dumb that I can't actually believe that he fooled military action hero dude into taking up this cause for him. I dunno, I'm mildly curious at this point, but those two dudes and the stripper girlfriend are basically caricatures at this point to me and barely actual people. Perhaps that's a nod to the comics, but as someone who hasn't read them, that's my read on them so far.

03-24-2014, 01:33 AM	#2394
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	how dumb was that asian chick on hannibal. At least she can spend time getting ready for the summer season of Big Brother.

03-24-2014, 03:31 PM	#2397
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Is it possible that Terminus is just some brief stop off point and the next season will completely go in some other direction? Like i think there was some serious maggie/glenn forshadowing during the episode. I wonder if one or the other will die. Also, why was there so much food available at that place that Daryl and Beth were at? Is it possible that they had developed a taste for other types of meat? Maybe we'll see Beth this week?

03-24-2014, 07:45 PM	#2398
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	Daryl's biker gang friends need to die quickly-preferably eaten alive by the zombies

03-24-2014, 08:16 PM	#2400
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	The thought that Eugene is actually aware of the epidemic causation breathes way more life into the show for me. I assume he's lying but some actual "hope" type arc would serve this show well. I know this is in contrast to the hopelessness of the comics but that is a totally different medium. I'd be fine with 6 seasons and some movies.

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