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Old 10-17-2006, 08:39 PM   #2351
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Do you suppose it has been more or less frustrating than having people snipe at you about "not playing your game" for five straight days?

Glen, I have very little sympathy for your plight. If you are telling the truth you had the luxury of holding a real trust list that could have helped us to make better decisions earlier in the game. I'm not sure what would have been the right day to come out with it, but while in jail on Day 7 is not it.
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Old 10-17-2006, 08:42 PM   #2352
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Or how about sitting in here as a sure lynch as an innocent while seeing someone with an uber-reveal in jail on the verge of escaping for another day? When we will only be able to put one more candidate in jail.

I can pretty much tell you how this one will go down if Glen lives:
A.) Nope, can't use power (likelihood 25%) - I think the group has been vocal enough that he won't go this route
B.) Wow, I can use my power and I have found a wolf among the two people sitting with me! And I'm still not tired! (75% likelihood)

If B happens pretty please, with sugar on top, lynch both people. Better yet, lynch him with me tonight and save us the aggrevation tomorrow.
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Old 10-17-2006, 08:46 PM   #2353
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ok im way too lazy to read all this.

Lynch Cronin

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Old 10-17-2006, 08:47 PM   #2354
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woops i mean

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Old 10-17-2006, 08:48 PM   #2355
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If B happens pretty please, with sugar on top, lynch both people. Better yet, lynch him with me tonight and save us the aggrevation tomorrow

sounds like something a Cowboy would want
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Old 10-17-2006, 08:48 PM   #2356
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Do you suppose it has been more or less frustrating than having people snipe at you about "not playing your game" for five straight days?

Glen, I have very little sympathy for your plight. If you are telling the truth you had the luxury of holding a real trust list that could have helped us to make better decisions earlier in the game. I'm not sure what would have been the right day to come out with it, but while in jail on Day 7 is not it.

I didn't have anything to come out with. I had Swaggs and CR. That was it. I read positive on GE, but he didn't last. I rolled well on Gram, but he was already dead Damnit!

I considered it, and would have come out today if I had gotten a result on BK.
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Old 10-17-2006, 08:49 PM   #2357
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Bullet, if you want to have a chance to win the game lynch Glen along with me.

Short version - I'm a dead man because of the votes on me right now. Glen is one vote away from escaping with a reveal that doesn't make him tired while allowing him to scan everyone who has been in jail and not coming up with a single Cowboy. Which, conveniently, was not mentioned until he was in jail.
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Old 10-17-2006, 08:50 PM   #2358
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Bullet, I want you to have a chance of getting a Cowboy with this lynch. As the vote stands right now that isn't happening.
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Old 10-17-2006, 08:51 PM   #2359
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Without a second lynch you:
1. Have 0% chance of getting a Cowboy
2. Can only put one new person in Jail tomorrow
3. Have to figure out tomorrow if Glen is telling the truth, no matter what he says

It is a lose/lose/lose proposition for the village.
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Old 10-17-2006, 08:53 PM   #2360
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Old 10-17-2006, 08:54 PM   #2361
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Bullet, if you want to have a chance to win the game lynch Glen along with me.

Short version - I'm a dead man because of the votes on me right now. Glen is one vote away from escaping with a reveal that doesn't make him tired while allowing him to scan everyone who has been in jail and not coming up with a single Cowboy. Which, conveniently, was not mentioned until he was in jail.

I said my powers as a seer were weak. The immunity to night action penalty(tired) is a balance, IMO.
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Old 10-17-2006, 08:59 PM   #2362
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Old 10-17-2006, 09:00 PM   #2363
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Congrats on escaping for another day, Glen. Lack of participation is a killer in these games and, for better or worse, you were around to battle for your position today.
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Old 10-17-2006, 09:01 PM   #2364
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Old 10-17-2006, 09:04 PM   #2365
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Congrats on escaping for another day, Glen. Lack of participation is a killer in these games and, for better or worse, you were around to battle for your position today.

Thank You. If you come up Cowboy, you are scary good at this game. I had begun to have my doubts, ok I actually believed you.

Oh and if it is this hard to squeek by with an actual reveal when you have evidence to support your position, then I can't even imagine pulling off a fake reveal.
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Old 10-17-2006, 09:09 PM   #2366
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The day starts off with a bang as the word of another night kill spreads through town, and the local villagers decide to take it out on the full jailhouse. Insults are tossed out among the various townspeople, but the loudest coming from within the jailhouse where Hoopsguy and Glengoyne yell back and forth from their cells at each other, trying to persuade the townspeople.

Finally the sun starts to set in the western sky, and Chubby calls out that its time for a lynch. He asks for final votes and calls out that it has been decided, Hoopsguy must hang. He instructs one of his deputies to go fetch the prisoner from his cell.

What happened next is tough to tell, from outside of the jailhouse you hear the sounds of some scruffling, then some yelling and finally gun shots. Out of the jailhouse runs Hoopsguy, with a smoking gun in his hand, yelling that he isn't going down without a fight.

From the side of the building however another deputy watching what is happening, quickly pulls out his gun and fires a few shots into Hoopsguy's body, killing him. Hoopsguy has been shot to death.

The momentary feeling of relief suddenly wears off however as more shouting from inside of the jailhouse occurs. It was not the deputy that was shot, instead Glengoyne has been killed as well by Hoopsguy.

A quick inspection after the fact reveals a bloody red sash being worn by Hoopsguy. No such sash can be found on Glengoyne anywhere however. A second cowboy has been killed, but the price was high this night.

Election votes: (7 votes needed for new sheriff)

No new sheriff votes.

Lynch votes: (7 votes needed for lynch)

(3) Barkeep - Spleen (2271), swaggs (2272), hoopsguy (2295)

(6) Glengoyne - Barkeep (2241), Racer (2245), Spleen (2271), Hoopsguy (2295), Chubby (2320), Lathum (2348)

(10) Hoopsguy - Chief RUm (2234), Barkeep (2241), Racer (2245), Spleen (2271), Swaggs (2272), Glengoyne (2313), Chubby (2320), path (2343), Lathum (2348), Bulletsponge (2354)

We are in night 7 now. PMs should be sent to me by 9:00am Wednesday morning.
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Old 10-17-2006, 09:12 PM   #2367
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well played hoops, you had me fooled
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Old 10-17-2006, 09:13 PM   #2368
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Good game, all. See you in the next one.
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Old 10-17-2006, 09:16 PM   #2369
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Holy shit. How did hoops still have his gun? Man, I dont want to be dead right now!
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Old 10-17-2006, 09:16 PM   #2370
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Damn. I was hoping to try and talk myself into being sheriff too.

Good Luck villagers. You will need it if there are more cowboys as wily as Hoops.
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Old 10-17-2006, 09:18 PM   #2371
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We have to kill Barkeep. He is hoops' brother!
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Old 10-17-2006, 09:18 PM   #2372
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Oh yes and brilliantly played Hoops.

I can't wait to read the debriefing when this one is over.

Oh the worst thing is that Hoops keeps the pressure on me all damn day, when he knows he is gonna off me either way.

That is just MEAN!
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Old 10-17-2006, 09:22 PM   #2373
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Damn fine game hoops. You almost had me remove my vote.
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Old 10-17-2006, 09:23 PM   #2374
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Bout time you finally got around to offing Hoops.
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Old 10-17-2006, 09:32 PM   #2375
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You tell 'em Gramm
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Old 10-17-2006, 09:33 PM   #2376
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Crap, tho I am glad we got another cowboy.
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Old 10-17-2006, 09:35 PM   #2377
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We have to kill Barkeep. He is hoops' brother!

Elaborate?
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Old 10-17-2006, 09:36 PM   #2378
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Good game, all. See you in the next one.

the dark side is strong in this one.....i knew i was right
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Old 10-17-2006, 09:37 PM   #2379
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Damn. I was hoping to try and talk myself into being sheriff too.

Good Luck villagers. You will need it if there are more cowboys as wily as Hoops.

Well I feel like an absolute idiot calling for your lynching the last several days when you were in fact a villager and also calling for another now confirmed villager Swaggs to be lynched as well.
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Old 10-17-2006, 09:41 PM   #2380
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The bad thing is that I almost err to the side of not wanting to lynch hoops nowadays, since he has been bad so often lately.
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Old 10-17-2006, 09:42 PM   #2381
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Hoops didn't have his gun. He stole it from the deputy.
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Old 10-17-2006, 09:42 PM   #2382
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Hoops didn't have his gun. He stole it from the deputy.

Barkeep, are you hoops' brother, as spleen says?
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Old 10-17-2006, 10:19 PM   #2383
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id bet 100$ that we now only have 1 cowboy remaining, and he has no gun. also the Cowboy is one of the peeps whom voted for Glen or barkeep.

that leaves


Spleen
Swaggs
Racer
Barkeep
Chubby
Lathum

now i trust Chubby 100%

I dont trust lathum

Keep this list, our Last Cowboy is in there

thats only 5 suspects

Jail Lathum
Jail Spleen

spleen is just a random pick between him, racer and swaggs. if any of them are a sure villager take them off the list and we will narrow the list down
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Old 10-17-2006, 10:23 PM   #2384
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i noticed swaggs voted for barkeep and Hoops, but not Glen. so i doubt hes the cowboy

the last cowboy voted for Hoops hoping Hoops could convince someone else to take a vote off him, and then changing too saving Hoops.
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Old 10-17-2006, 10:24 PM   #2385
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id bet 100$ that we now only have 1 cowboy remaining, and he has no gun. also the Cowboy is one of the peeps whom voted for Glen or barkeep.

that leaves


Spleen
Swaggs
Racer
Barkeep
Chubby
Lathum

now i trust Chubby 100%

I dont trust lathum

Keep this list, our Last Cowboy is in there

thats only 5 suspects

Jail Lathum
Jail Spleen

spleen is just a random pick between him, racer and swaggs. if any of them are a sure villager take them off the list and we will narrow the list down

way to contradict yourself. I have a gun
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Old 10-17-2006, 10:33 PM   #2386
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Elaborate?

It is just a hunch. I wanted to see Barkeep's reaction.
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Old 10-17-2006, 11:10 PM   #2387
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Swaggs was cleared by Glengoyne bullet.
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Old 10-17-2006, 11:40 PM   #2388
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I doubt Hoops had a brother. However ibet we find out in the morning. I look forward to hear of Hoops role in the Morning Spleen.
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Old 10-17-2006, 11:46 PM   #2389
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hoops was the sharpshooter and Glen was the retired judge.
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Old 10-17-2006, 11:55 PM   #2390
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My trust levels:
99%:
--Chubby (witnessed cronin).
--bullet (killed cronin)
--Swaggs (cleared by Glen)
--Chief Rum (cleared by Glen)

75%:
--Spleen (town mortician--has provided good information to this point)

I think the two players I am most looking at now are Path and Lathum. Neither have been adequately vouched for, in my opinion, and both cast late votes against hoops today. I think one or both are cowboys.

Chubby, I would like to see Barkeep stay in jail and Path and Lathum join him there. It would be interesting to see if there is a murder tonight if that were to happen.
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Old 10-17-2006, 11:59 PM   #2391
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Old 10-18-2006, 12:07 AM   #2392
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I definitely don't trust AlanT.

Me neither. He's always a wolf.
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Old 10-18-2006, 12:12 AM   #2393
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My trust levels:
99%:
--Chubby (witnessed cronin).
--bullet (killed cronin)
--Swaggs (cleared by Glen)
--Chief Rum (cleared by Glen)

75%:
--Spleen (town mortician--has provided good information to this point)

I think the two players I am most looking at now are Path and Lathum. Neither have been adequately vouched for, in my opinion, and both cast late votes against hoops today. I think one or both are cowboys.

Chubby, I would like to see Barkeep stay in jail and Path and Lathum join him there. It would be interesting to see if there is a murder tonight if that were to happen.

Well, aside from your suggestion about me I think your list is pretty good. I would put ntndeacon in the 50-75% range just because he's been out most every night but has been vouched for in visits those nights and doesn't seem to be near the killings.

I know I'm good, so that leaves Anxiety, Lathum, Racer and Barkeep.

I still lean Racer as the best bet because of his odd insistence that he was good because both he and LSG heard shots the first night, and I guess my next pick would be Lathum, mainly because my gut leans more toward Anxiety and Barkeep being villagers.
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Old 10-18-2006, 12:13 AM   #2394
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My trust levels:
99%:
--Chubby (witnessed cronin).
--bullet (killed cronin)
--Swaggs (cleared by Glen)
--Chief Rum (cleared by Glen)

75%:
--Spleen (town mortician--has provided good information to this point)

I think the two players I am most looking at now are Path and Lathum. Neither have been adequately vouched for, in my opinion, and both cast late votes against hoops today. I think one or both are cowboys.

Chubby, I would like to see Barkeep stay in jail and Path and Lathum join him there. It would be interesting to see if there is a murder tonight if that were to happen.


You only trust yourself 99 percent?
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Old 10-18-2006, 12:15 AM   #2395
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My trust levels:
99%:
--Chubby (witnessed cronin).
--bullet (killed cronin)
--Swaggs (cleared by Glen)
--Chief Rum (cleared by Glen)

75%:
--Spleen (town mortician--has provided good information to this point)

I think the two players I am most looking at now are Path and Lathum. Neither have been adequately vouched for, in my opinion, and both cast late votes against hoops today. I think one or both are cowboys.

Chubby, I would like to see Barkeep stay in jail and Path and Lathum join him there. It would be interesting to see if there is a murder tonight if that were to happen.

A nice list. it looks like thw tide has turned a little with Hoops execution. the only bad part is that we can jail 2.

I can certainly see why no one in the expanding early CoT was killed. At least two of those in that group were cowboys, potentially a 3rd.
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Old 10-18-2006, 12:37 AM   #2396
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Well, aside from your suggestion about me I think your list is pretty good. I would put ntndeacon in the 50-75% range just because he's been out most every night but has been vouched for in visits those nights and doesn't seem to be near the killings.

I know I'm good, so that leaves Anxiety, Lathum, Racer and Barkeep.

I still lean Racer as the best bet because of his odd insistence that he was good because both he and LSG heard shots the first night, and I guess my next pick would be Lathum, mainly because my gut leans more toward Anxiety and Barkeep being villagers.

I never said the PM link proved or even strongly indicated that I was good only that it was a reason why I believed LSG to be good. I have defended myself by reminding everyone that I was one of the first people to campaign to jail St. Cronin. So if you find that suspicious or something else about me suspicious, by all means vote to jail me tonight.
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Old 10-18-2006, 02:18 AM   #2397
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From the side of the building however another deputy watching what is happening, quickly pulls out his gun and fires a few shots into Hoopsguy's body, killing him. Hoopsguy has been shot to death.

A quick inspection after the fact reveals a bloody red sash being worn by Hoopsguy.


Finally some satisfaction.
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Old 10-18-2006, 08:21 AM   #2398
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lad my plan worked out with nabbing hoops, although it is too bad what happened to Glengoyne. Hopefully we can add another tonight. Although we likely got the gunman on most nights (which is might my analysis was based on), I still think we have at least one more wolf in that suspect list. So let's keep pressing there.

I will be out the rest of the day until before the deadline, but I should be here to put in a vote. Assuming I live past the night's actions, BTW. And, yes, I do approach someone else today, so I will be tired.
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Old 10-18-2006, 08:57 AM   #2399
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Old 10-18-2006, 09:12 AM   #2400
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id bet 100$ that we now only have 1 cowboy remaining, and he has no gun. also the Cowboy is one of the peeps whom voted for Glen or barkeep.

that leaves


Spleen
Swaggs
Racer
Barkeep
Chubby
Lathum

now i trust Chubby 100%

I dont trust lathum

Keep this list, our Last Cowboy is in there

thats only 5 suspects

Jail Lathum
Jail Spleen

spleen is just a random pick between him, racer and swaggs. if any of them are a sure villager take them off the list and we will narrow the list down

ok knowing spleen is the mortician, ill unvote him.

Unvote Spleen
vote Racer
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