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Old 02-15-2007, 03:07 PM   #2401
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This is from JE's post 2330. Are you saying he's lying here?

I've gone back and looked at the original comment in the private thread. There are two inaccuracies in that description.

1) It was never said that ITC was in the clear, though in hindsight I can see that he might have hinted at that. But there is no explicit comment saying that he was clear.
2) See above regarding "I never indicated ITC was still a target". It was never spelled out.

Everything else is correct though. He absolutely said he had no idea who you guys were going to end up voting out.
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Old 02-15-2007, 03:10 PM   #2402
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I also find it hard to believe that path and JE are both wolves -- if so, they're playing us like fiddles, and their pretended befuddlement with each other is pure genius. My inclination is that JE is the wolf, too. It just seems unlikely that path happened to misinterpret what JE said, and in doing so, happened into the truth about votes being on ITC.

If path was making a play, it couldn't have been with this result in mind. For a variety of reasons, I think he's probably clear.

I do agree that there probably has been a conversion. It wasn't me, so ITC may be a good bet.
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Old 02-15-2007, 03:11 PM   #2403
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I've gone back and looked at the original comment in the private thread. There are two inaccuracies in that description.

1) It was never said that ITC was in the clear, though in hindsight I can see that he might have hinted at that. But there is no explicit comment saying that he was clear.
2) See above regarding "I never indicated ITC was still a target". It was never spelled out.

Everything else is correct though. He absolutely said he had no idea who you guys were going to end up voting out.

Thanks. That all sounds like stuff that JE should respond to.
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Old 02-15-2007, 03:13 PM   #2404
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Members of New Helsing, what are your thoughts on path now? After his reveal, everything got pretty quiet.

Honestly, we're working on today's challenge so it hasn't come up at all besides here.
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Old 02-15-2007, 03:14 PM   #2405
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If path was making a play, it couldn't have been with this result in mind. For a variety of reasons, I think he's probably clear.

I do agree that there probably has been a conversion. It wasn't me, so ITC may be a good bet.

ITC is an interesting case. He's been around a lot today, but hasn't said much. I expect this game is very overwhelming for a newbie, so I am willing to cut him some slack on that. But he's made some other questionable moves, as well. He's a little bit lucky that we've got other problems in New Howard right now. At some point yesterday, he said he would bite his tongue, but that we should trust him. I told him that it wasn't a good idea, and if he had something to say, he should really say it now to spare his life. Of course, I had no idea what the next 24 hours would hold.
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Old 02-15-2007, 03:15 PM   #2406
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Honestly, we're working on today's challenge so it hasn't come up at all besides here.

That's cool. Glad I could help you guys focus on what's really important!
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Old 02-15-2007, 03:16 PM   #2407
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I think most of helsing considers path pseudo-cleared by this debacle.
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Old 02-15-2007, 03:18 PM   #2408
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Honestly, we're working on today's challenge so it hasn't come up at all besides here.

sorry for my lack of color in this post
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Old 02-15-2007, 03:18 PM   #2409
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YEAH IM JUST READING, NOT REALLY MUCH TO SAY DIDNT TAKE MUCH PART IN ALL OF THIS

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Old 02-15-2007, 03:24 PM   #2410
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ooc: I just want to point out that Barkeep's running of this game is more impressive than anything I've ever done in my life. I'd like to thank him for taking two weeks off work to do this.
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Old 02-15-2007, 03:26 PM   #2411
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ooc: I just want to point out that Barkeep's running of this game is more impressive than anything I've ever done in my life. I'd like to thank him for taking two weeks off work to do this.

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Old 02-15-2007, 03:36 PM   #2412
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I've gone back and looked at the original comment in the private thread. There are two inaccuracies in that description.

1) It was never said that ITC was in the clear, though in hindsight I can see that he might have hinted at that. But there is no explicit comment saying that he was clear.
2) See above regarding "I never indicated ITC was still a target". It was never spelled out.

Everything else is correct though. He absolutely said he had no idea who you guys were going to end up voting out.

You're right. I didn't spell it out and state directly that ITC was in the clear. I thought my post made it clear that ITC was no longer a threat to be voted out, but I guess not. Like I said in the Howard thread, I'll work on my writing skills with the time I'll have once I'm voted off.
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Old 02-15-2007, 03:52 PM   #2413
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I've worked through similar math, Alan, and I think you are likely not a wolf. I think Swaggs is PROBABLY the wolf in our group.

I agree, FWIW. I've thought he was the wolf from Lupus from almost the beginning.
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Old 02-15-2007, 04:00 PM   #2414
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I agree, FWIW. I've thought he was the wolf from Lupus from almost the beginning.

Well, I certainly didn't. Once we told there was a wolf in the tribe with just us three, I woulda chosen Swaggs if I had to, but I still trusted ya both.
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Old 02-15-2007, 04:05 PM   #2415
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I know that this doesn't matter at this point, but I'm extremely sorry that I haven't been around more. My entire family has been hit by this flu that's been going around this area, and I haven't even felt up to logging in the past 4-5 days.

I should have said something that explained things, and I apologize for that.

Good luck.


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Old 02-15-2007, 04:36 PM   #2416
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ooc: I just want to point out that Barkeep's running of this game is more impressive than anything I've ever done in my life. I'd like to thank him for taking two weeks off work to do this.
No work time has been missed. It's just that my work schedule allows me to be around a bunch. But thank you for the complement.
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Old 02-15-2007, 04:51 PM   #2417
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Further hints:
1. 3 words (both tribes have submitted an answer for this)
2. 13 words
3. 11 words
4. 9 words (one of the words is PC)
5. I am making #5 shorter by lopping off the end. It will now be

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nahayannrwwuocuytfhnrufaotrconcobytsoutarouoouyrokrtdtdcyyoou
17 words
6. 7 words
7. 9 parts
8. 5 words (with a homophone error)
9. 10 words
10. 12 words (though two of them are sometimes hyphenated)

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Old 02-15-2007, 06:47 PM   #2418
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The votes are public?


People don't have to make them public, they are PM'd. However some people who have nothing to hide either way have made them public in our thread. I don't feel it hurts anything to be open about stuff like that. I've made it perfectly clear who I would have voted for if i could and why as well as who I'm voting for today (obviously). I would expect people with good reasons would do the same.
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Old 02-15-2007, 07:04 PM   #2419
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No work time has been missed. It's just that my work schedule allows me to be around a bunch. But thank you for the complement.

I am in awe.
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Old 02-15-2007, 07:58 PM   #2420
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Anybody else feel teh game ebbing?
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Old 02-15-2007, 08:03 PM   #2421
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Anybody else feel teh game ebbing?

I think todays challenge was WAY harder then BK expected. I know I tried but I literaly got a headache after a while.
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Old 02-15-2007, 08:09 PM   #2422
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Anybody else feel teh game ebbing?

I thought today was one of the more active days discussion wise.
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Old 02-15-2007, 08:11 PM   #2423
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I thought today was one of the more active days discussion wise.

early on it was
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Old 02-15-2007, 08:46 PM   #2424
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I don't think it will take BK very long to score this challenge.
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Old 02-15-2007, 08:55 PM   #2425
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Old 02-15-2007, 08:55 PM   #2426
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No it wont. I started working on it early, and then no one else in my group helped, and I suck at word challenges.
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Old 02-15-2007, 08:56 PM   #2427
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No, you won't be Swaggs. This will be among the least interesting results iin teh game.
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Old 02-15-2007, 09:07 PM   #2428
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No, you won't be Swaggs. This will be among the least interesting results iin teh game.

I don't know, JE might be PMing BK with answers as he tries to keep the vote away from his thread.
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Old 02-15-2007, 09:37 PM   #2429
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Survivor asks you to outwit, outlast, and outplay. Evidentially, today I asked you to do none of those things and instead to do the impossible. In the end the contest wasn't really close. I knew this challenge could have easily turned into something that was far too simple and so in response went overboard in the challenge. I apologize to all the players and assure you that this shouldn't be an issue again with any remaining challenges.

So, let's look at what the answers are:

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outstitpylaulawotout is outwitoutlastoutplay.
2. yoikvoltloitrsleorlrkfetotevolersiglwwktteegwhowhasroeef is the key to werewolf is for villagers to work together to kill wolves.
3. tjticeouttrrndkogesroiddikaasnadaedeyh is sky dog is a dictator and the one true dark jedi.
4. cgtvgfiuoeemoermieetmlmsetaottrapaasbxlnh is maximum football is not the greatest pc game ever.
5. ofyttqntdmunuouyftsryufoscdnooaysknoauowaoeudrunotwybtjnyhaiutfnchcaosoasomuecryorrentrookh is ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country
6. gvwpnaethsipaehisasagvaenssytn is what happens in vegas stays in vegas.
7. nnshersiscanhulgndraiamiretermcotdamdedoiacbaatgleuayfnmytntelreeoetdrarsgnsoeilrlternhdah is goldeneagle raidersarmy Schmidty chiefrum blade ardententhusias tlonestargirl ntndeacon marathoner.
8. klsegadatmiiiLchlaocryleeuucrcyhsm is Lucky charms there magically delicious.
9. crihaladiingaeaehwlilehebsdowovethnlh is i have no idea how hard this challenge will be.
10. fdesnsgesuseogtwyhiusbotsainueeefrdcthtitedhtreetnorpo is george w bush is the fourty second president of the united states.
Unfortunately for them Howard only got one answer in, and in second place at that: outwit, outlast, outplay. Helsing did a little better getting that one, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas, and Lucky Charms they're magically delicious, despite my typo. So with a score of 6-1, Helsing wins this challenge and is safe again from tribal council and immunity.

Congrats to them. As an FYI: we're going to run a normal day tomorrow. Night will be slightly extended into Saturday morning. We'll then have a challenge over the weekend which should be fun and low intensive in terms of time. See you tomorrow morning.
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Old 02-15-2007, 09:41 PM   #2430
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Well frick.. I swear I looked at #5 for that exact quote, and I still never got it..

For #2 I had almost that exact quote in our thread, but couldnt figure out the last words..

and path nearly had #9.. so close
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Old 02-15-2007, 09:47 PM   #2431
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Important

We're going to play two truths and a lie for tomorrow. All remaining Survivors must PM me, by 10:30 tomorrow, two factual statements and one lie about themselves. Which is the lie should be clearly marked. So for instance I might have:

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I've written four plays which have been performed
I'm a member of Mensa
I was student government president in College
For this one I'm not a member of Mensa, so that's my lie. The other two are true. Simple enough right? Obviously tomorrow your tribe will have to determine what is true and false for the other tribe. Please do NOT post your PMs in the thread until AFTER the challenge is officially posted tomorrow.

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Old 02-15-2007, 09:48 PM   #2432
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I had portions of #2 in my head all day, but couldn't quite put it all together and I also looked for the quote of #5 in just about everyone of them when the challenge first began. That was a real tough challenge, but fun. We spent a lot of time on it with little to show, but I guess it was enough.
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Old 02-15-2007, 09:51 PM   #2433
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I'm glad to hear Alan and Swaggs both say that since I know they both spent a fair amount of time on it.
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Old 02-15-2007, 10:02 PM   #2434
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What was the original answer to #5? I guessed the JFK part, but couldn't figure out the rest of it.
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Old 02-15-2007, 10:10 PM   #2435
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You got the JFK part but not the rest? wow... It was something close to: Ask not what you can do for your country but what your country can do for you is a famous quote by John F Kennedy.
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Old 02-15-2007, 10:11 PM   #2436
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You got the JFK part but not the rest? wow... It was something close to: Ask not what you can do for your country but what your country can do for you is a famous quote by John F Kennedy.

I think it's the other way around.
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Old 02-15-2007, 10:12 PM   #2437
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Ah. I was thinking it was two quotes, not one.
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Old 02-15-2007, 10:14 PM   #2438
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And not to be a jerk or anything, but the actual quote is

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Old 02-15-2007, 10:16 PM   #2439
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Thanks JE. Shame on me for messing it up.
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Old 02-15-2007, 10:17 PM   #2440
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And not to be a jerk or anything, but the actual quote is

I wouldn't worry. Neither team solved that clue anyway, and Barkeep had it right when he posted the results.
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Old 02-16-2007, 05:20 AM   #2441
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You got the JFK part but not the rest? wow... It was something close to: Ask not what you can do for your country but what your country can do for you is a famous quote by John F Kennedy.


Oh well that is what messed me up I think. When I was looking originally I had a bunch of famous quotes.. that one, as well as others like the only thing you have to fear is fear itself, and four score, seven years ago as well as other famous quotes I could find. How I did quick eliminations was if it had letters my quotes didn't I skipped and continued.. Since that quote has no K's in it, I likely skipped that one I guess. I never went back after it was shortened.
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Old 02-16-2007, 05:49 AM   #2442
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so can i post "im a wolf" as a lie?
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Old 02-16-2007, 07:29 AM   #2443
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Gram asked, "So, Helsing, who got voted off?" in our thread, but he did it in gray. So I assume he meant to ask it here -- I really don't think he was asking JE to find out from path.
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Old 02-16-2007, 07:32 AM   #2444
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Gram asked, "So, Helsing, who got voted off?" in our thread, but he did it in gray. So I assume he meant to ask it here -- I really don't think he was asking JE to find out from path.

Cronin was voted off. The majority of the comments were that he wasn't their top choice to be voted off and was only being voted due to the lousy choices we had to choose from
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Old 02-16-2007, 07:57 AM   #2445
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did he have any final words?
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Old 02-16-2007, 08:06 AM   #2446
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did he have any final words?



I don't believe he was around any yesterday after the morning. (I would need to go back through and double check to be sure). The only comments he made was from the night before after we found out who you all had selected, and the majority of those comments he made here in this thread. I think he understood why he likely was getting voted off and didn't have hard feelings about it.

He gave his reasons for why he felt his and my names were selected and his only real comment to us about it was that he'll leave it up to Howard to figure out if certain people in their tribe is wolves from this action.

Like I said, this was our first tribal council this game, and I don't think most people appreciated the choices given for vote.
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Old 02-16-2007, 08:26 AM   #2447
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so can i post "im a wolf" as a lie?

It took me a while to realize what you were talking about, but my educated guess is probably not.
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Old 02-16-2007, 08:29 AM   #2448
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I don't believe he was around any yesterday after the morning. (I would need to go back through and double check to be sure). The only comments he made was from the night before after we found out who you all had selected, and the majority of those comments he made here in this thread. I think he understood why he likely was getting voted off and didn't have hard feelings about it.

He gave his reasons for why he felt his and my names were selected and his only real comment to us about it was that he'll leave it up to Howard to figure out if certain people in their tribe is wolves from this action.

Like I said, this was our first tribal council this game, and I don't think most people appreciated the choices given for vote.

Who would you guys have liked to have for selection? What two names do you think would have been your preference?
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Old 02-16-2007, 08:30 AM   #2449
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Old 02-16-2007, 08:31 AM   #2450
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Who would you guys have liked to have for selection? What two names do you think would have been your preference?

I can only speak for myself here, but I have to imagine that it wouldn't have been too hard of a guess who we would have liked as choices since we had talked about it for the previous day or however long since the tribes were reformed.
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