The Trump Presidency – 2016

[GrantDawg]

The silent majority is also invisible!

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[JPhillips]

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

Someone tweeted, "I had more people at a BBQ during quarantine." Ha!

I saw one claiming more people at Marlins games.

[Ben E Lou]

Almost One Million people request tickets for the Saturday Night Rally in Tulsa, Oklahoma!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 15, 2020

[JPhillips]

Nobody thinks Trump voters are more stupid than conservative media does.

"Supporters are packed inside"

Jesse Watters just implicitly told FOX viewers to not believe what they see on their TV screens: a not-packed arena for Trump's first rally in months pic.twitter.com/1u80SZgQlq

— Marc Caputo (@MarcACaputo) June 21, 2020

[Ben E Lou]

Imagine if you camped out and slept on the concrete sidewalk for 3 days this week.

[JPhillips]

“So I said to my people, ‘Slow the testing down, please!’”

God almighty.

[JPhillips]

dola

Uhh, what?

Trump demonstrates lifting glass to his mouth. Crowd goes wild. pic.twitter.com/YmOj7MrEho

— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) June 21, 2020

[Ksyrup]

16 minutes ranting/explaining the ramp walk and water drinking episodes. I know people were critical of Lincoln Project for going there but it was effective for one reason - Trump can't let crap like that go and just punches himself in the balls demonstrating how pathetic he is every single time.

[ISiddiqui]

The overflow area is super bare (like less than 20 folks). And Trump is speaking to 5-10k people inside.

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[JPhillips]

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

16 minutes ranting/explaining the ramp walk and water drinking episodes. I know people were critical of Lincoln Project for going there but it was effective for one reason - Trump can't let crap like that go and just punches himself in the balls demonstrating how pathetic he is every single time.

Somebody said that if the campaign were a game Biden would be a mini-boss and the ramp would be the final boss.

[sterlingice]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

God almighty.

But this is the genius of Trump. He's a Rorschach's test, especially to those who follow him. See what you want to see.

In the CNN live feed about it:
https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-ne...oma/index.html

“He was obviously kidding. We are leading the world in testing and have conducted 25 million+ in testing,” the official told CNN.

SI

[JPhillips]

Watching various conservatives praise Trump's ability to drink water with one hand is fun.

[albionmoonlight]

It will be fun to watch conservatives all say over the next 24 hours that Trump wasn't serious about ordering reduced testing. Then for Trump to tweet that of course he was serious. Then for those same conservatives to all then defend him saying that of course he ordered less testing because the fake news was just using testing numbers to make him look bad.

[JPhillips]

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

It will be fun to watch conservatives all say over the next 24 hours that Trump wasn't serious about ordering reduced testing. Then for Trump to tweet that of course he was serious. Then for those same conservatives to all then defend him saying that of course he ordered less testing because the fake news was just using testing numbers to make him look bad.

Snopes says true.

[QuikSand]

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

It will be fun to watch conservatives all say over the next 24 hours that Trump wasn't serious about ordering reduced testing. Then for Trump to tweet that of course he was serious. Then for those same conservatives to all then defend him saying that of course he ordered less testing because the fake news was just using testing numbers to make him look bad.

100%

[tarcone]

Is Kung Fu a racist term? I thought it was a martial art.

[ISiddiqui]

Not sure if you are being serious, but he said KungFlu in reference to Covid 19


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[whomario]

Someone explain to me the sense in these campaign rallies where you generally speak only in fron of people that will vote for you anyway ?

[SirFozzie]

Originally Posted by whomario

Someone explain to me the sense in these campaign rallies where you generally speak only in fron of people that will vote for you anyway ?

he needs to feel validated. This is where he can be told "Yes Mr President, you're right! Keep it up" and not have those damn newsies get in the way.

[Brian Swartz]

Campaign rallies predate Trump by just a hair. Media coverage, inspiring the faithful to go out and do whatever (voter registration, talk to people they know and convince them to vote, etc.), and there are some who go to the rallies who weren't necessarily intending to vote for a candidate as well. A small minority but it does happen.

[Qwikshot]

Originally Posted by Brian Swartz

Campaign rallies predate Trump by just a hair. Media coverage, inspiring the faithful to go out and do whatever (voter registration, talk to people they know and convince them to vote, etc.), and there are some who go to the rallies who weren't necessarily intending to vote for a candidate as well. A small minority but it does happen.

Klan rallies too, but he seems to have brought them back in fashion.

[albionmoonlight]

The walk of shame. pic.twitter.com/u0GRFnnKeY

— The Lincoln Project (@ProjectLincoln) June 21, 2020

Kind of how I feel after a long day, too. But this isn't the image that you want out there if you are Trump.

The one thing that his supporters will not tolerate is being associated with weakness.

I think that Trump could shoot a guy on 5th Avenue and keep his base's approval.

But if he says "Man, I feel bad about shooting that guy; I probably shouldn't have done that," that's when people start to leave.

[albionmoonlight]

dola:

I also can't help but note that 30,000,000 Americans losing their jobs didn't seems to phase him one bit.

But one rally having lower than expected attendance seems to have nearly broken him.

We've gone from Clinton's "I feel your pain" to Trump's "I do not believe that people other than me are capable of feeling pain"

[QuikSand]

Stewed on this a bit... is it possible that "slow the testing" might actually become a plank in the Trump message from here? Are we really that far gone?

[PilotMan]

Why bother slowing? Why not simply call for it to stop at this point?

[QuikSand]

...also have another longer thought not yet fully developed about "dehumanizing" that seems to connect to several things we've seen recently... references to protestors, talking about police as hot knives through butter and chokeholds as beautiful, and dismissing illnesses as numbers, that sort of thing... eventually winding its way around to the flood of ads i get for murder-the-zombies genre game, which seems to have some similar psych elements to "those people are not really people"... maybe it will come together at some point...heaven knows the fuel will be there

[larrymcg421]

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

I didn't say it wasn't a problem and I don't know who it helps or why they did it, other than obvious health concerns for those that have to run the polling places and a lack of volunteers (usually seniors, btw).

We have closed primaries, so restricting Democrats from voting for Democrats helps who? If it's trying to keep Charles Booker from beating McGrath, McGrath has money and the national party behind her, so that doesn't make a ton of sense. Or at least is a gamble at this point at best.

I get the argument in a general election, but in a closed primary? The SOS is a Republican but has worked very well with the Dem Governor and agreed to mailing absentee ballots ,etc., when other states have pushed back. So I don't know what the reason is or why it necessarily would help Republicans (or why, if it's that big an issue, the Dem Governor wouldn't be raising hell). If it's determined at the local level, Louisville is run by Democrats. So the end game here is hard for me to see clearly.

Here in Georgia, the primary also included decisive elections for "non-partisan" races for Supreme Court, County Commissioner, Sherriff, and many other races.

[albionmoonlight]

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

It will be fun to watch conservatives all say over the next 24 hours that Trump wasn't serious about ordering reduced testing. Then for Trump to tweet that of course he was serious. Then for those same conservatives to all then defend him saying that of course he ordered less testing because the fake news was just using testing numbers to make him look bad.

Stage One Proceeding On Schedule: White House Official: Trump Was Just Joking About Stifling COVID Testing!

[Ksyrup]

The Emptysburgh Address. Ha! Lincoln Project is doing it all for Biden.

[JPhillips]

I like, "I Have a Drink."

[JPhillips]

dola

lol

This is art. pic.twitter.com/ZPJxHu20TV

— The Lincoln Project (@ProjectLincoln) June 21, 2020

[BYU 14]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

dola

lol

This is art. pic.twitter.com/ZPJxHu20TV

— The Lincoln Project (@ProjectLincoln) June 21, 2020

LOL, Joe's new campaign slogan, "I am not a whiney Bitch" classic!

[ISiddiqui]

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1...571278342?s=19

It was so bad, Chris Wallace on Fox News was calling them out

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[Brian Swartz]

Originally Posted by Qwikshot

Klan rallies too, but he seems to have brought them back in fashion.

I remember when it considered the greatest thing ever to see the reaction candidate/'citizen of the world' Barack Obama got in Berlin. Where they can't even vote for the US president.

My, how things have changed.

[MIJB#19]

Given the public protests going on around the world, Trumps' "make America great again" slogan has got to be considered something that is no longer appropriate to say? To me it's a text book example of how to insult large groups of people. Four years ago I thought it was just an insult to 2/3rd of 960M people in America and outside the USA, but I suppose it has to be a slap in the face of a lot of people inside the USA as well now.

Side note: visiting the English Wikipedia page of "America" didn't make my mood any better. For whatever reason, Wikipedia has taken a political stance on the subject, to divert from being factual and specifically have a different English language page compared to other languages'. Yes, I sent an e-mail. I didn't call it propaganda and censure, but it reeks of it. The kind we all claim to only know from countries like Russia, China, Iran, Turkey and North Korea.

[MrBug708]

Originally Posted by MIJB#19

Given the public protests going on around the world, Trumps' "make America great again" slogan has got to be considered something that is no longer appropriate to say? To me it's a text book example of how to insult large groups of people. Four years ago I thought it was just an insult to 2/3rd of 960M people in America and outside the USA, but I suppose it has to be a slap in the face of a lot of people inside the USA as well now.

It's been considered to be a racist term for a while. Not the phrase itself, but that anyone using it is racist

[sterlingice]

Originally Posted by MIJB#19

Side note: visiting the English Wikipedia page of "America" didn't make my mood any better. For whatever reason, Wikipedia has taken a political stance on the subject, to divert from being factual and specifically have a different English language page compared to other languages'. Yes, I sent an e-mail. I didn't call it propaganda and censure, but it reeks of it. The kind we all claim to only know from countries like Russia, China, Iran, Turkey and North Korea.

Ok, I'm game - so what's going on? I mean I tried to go onto the Talk page but it's like a mile long. Like how can you tell that there are different pages for different languages

SI

[Atocep]

Trump's new ad slams Biden for being old and weak...

It's seriously like the Trump campaign is an offense that runs 3 plays.

[JPhillips]

Originally Posted by Atocep

Trump's new ad slams Biden for being old and weak...

It's seriously like the Trump campaign is an offense that runs 3 plays.

Trump really has no effective attacks on Biden at the moment.

[PilotMan]

I saw that one. I laughed and laughed. Like this is the best they got? Like this guy is the one that is running on the "he's too old" line? LMFAO

[CrimsonFox]

[albionmoonlight]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

Trump really has no effective attacks on Biden at the moment.

I've seen some right wing arguments that Biden is old and feeble, so he will be a "Weekend at Bernie's" President, while AOC and Antifa really run the country behind the scenes.

Which is a pretty bad argument if you think about it for more than 10 seconds because it pretty much concedes that Biden himself is actually fine.

[Ksyrup]

Trump re-engaging with the "election is rigged" game this morning on Twitter. I've felt this way for a couple of years, but I feel like we're in a lose/lose situation come November - either he wins and we're screwed, or he loses and tries to recruit 30% of the country to tear it down on his way out.

[NobodyHere]

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

I've seen some right wing arguments that Biden is old and feeble, so he will be a "Weekend at Bernie's" President, while AOC and Antifa really run the country behind the scenes.

Which is a pretty bad argument if you think about it for more than 10 seconds because it pretty much concedes that Biden himself is actually fine.

Unless they can get the election to be more of a referendum on AOC/Antifa than Trump or Biden.

It kind of reminds me of the GOP strategy to take back the house in 2010. In many races they didn't attack the opening house candidates directly. They attacked Pelosi and made the race a referendum on her. After all any democratic house member was going to vote for her for speaker regardless of what they other positions they stood for.

[JPhillips]

But that's unlikely to work. Trump is the incumbent and it's a Presidential election. It's going to be very hard to make the election about anything other than Trump. Trying to tie Biden to the far left also will be very difficult because he just beat the far-left candidate. Trump is also complicating things by trying to simultaneously get to Biden's right and left.

edit: I don't think Trump has a chance outside of voter suppression and B.S. from the DoJ. But with that, he could win again.

[NobodyHere]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

But that's unlikely to work. Trump is the incumbent and it's a Presidential election. It's going to be very hard to make the election about anything other than Trump. Trying to tie Biden to the far left also will be very difficult because he just beat the far-left candidate. Trump is also complicating things by trying to simultaneously get to Biden's right and left.

edit: I don't think Trump has a chance outside of voter suppression and B.S. from the DoJ. But with that, he could win again.

No doubt it would be pretty difficult but it would move the fight to a more favorable battleground.

[panerd]

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

Trump re-engaging with the "election is rigged" game this morning on Twitter. I've felt this way for a couple of years, but I feel like we're in a lose/lose situation come November - either he wins and we're screwed, or he loses and tries to recruit 30% of the country to tear it down on his way out.

I've always thought there is an outside chance he is actually done and would love to go on the post presidential money grab/running his own right wing 24 hour news network. Not so sure he wouldn't happily leave the White House.

[albionmoonlight]

Originally Posted by panerd

I've always thought there is an outside chance he is actually done and would love to go on the post presidential money grab/running his own right wing 24 hour news network. Not so sure he wouldn't happily leave the White House.

I do think that he's rather not be President than be President.

But he also cannot handle losing.

So even though he might be happy to go, he'll still burn the place down on his way out by claiming voter fraud.

[panerd]

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

I do think that he's rather not be President than be President.

But he also cannot handle losing.

So even though he might be happy to go, he'll still burn the place down on his way out by claiming voter fraud.

Oh yeah he won't go quietly. However much to the chagrin of a large chunk of this board I don't think the reaction will be the country burning. In fact there really is only one extreme end of either political party that has burned down cities and taken over part of a major metropolis. A black president was elected and the "silent racist majority" didn't do anything like we have seen in the past several weeks. My fear would be the country burning due to a Trump reelection.

Not to be misinterpreted as my wanting anything but a new President. My personal preference would be Jorgensen then Biden. Just feel like it's hard to claim one extreme side won't take the election results seriously when another extreme side has already stooped to lawlessness and anarchy.

[bronconick]

If he loses badly, he'll leave office early and leave Pence to do the transition for a pardon. New York State will have to chase him down if they want him.