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Old 01-01-2010, 08:40 PM   #201
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Old 01-01-2010, 08:42 PM   #202
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Old 01-01-2010, 08:43 PM   #203
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Now all I need is for Mardy to come up big and make Tebow cry again.

I think you'll find a lot of us cheering for the Bearcats tonight.
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Old 01-01-2010, 08:46 PM   #204
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Old 01-01-2010, 08:46 PM   #205
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Did UM just say Tim has been great for the universe and the world?
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Old 01-01-2010, 08:47 PM   #206
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93 years and counting Ducks. Couldn't happen to a more deserving fanbase...

Bowl season hasn't been kind to the Pac-10
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Old 01-01-2010, 08:48 PM   #207
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Great great season Ducks!! woulda been nice to end on a win but hey 10-3 is an excellent year! I'm happy with that ! wOOO QUACK QUACK!
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Old 01-01-2010, 08:54 PM   #208
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Old 01-01-2010, 09:00 PM   #209
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Sheesh, thank God for USC and UCLA? Otherwise, Pac 10 shit the bed this bowl season.
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Old 01-01-2010, 09:08 PM   #210
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Chase Rettig (with an injured thumb) looking good so far in the ESPN skills challenge from the Skills challenge!
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Old 01-01-2010, 09:19 PM   #211
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Nasty looking apparent broken arm for Demps early in the Florida game. Freak injury, just stumbled & tried to catch himself & boom.
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Old 01-01-2010, 09:31 PM   #212
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Nasty looking apparent broken arm for Demps early in the Florida game. Freak injury, just stumbled & tried to catch himself & boom.

He dislocated his elbow and is done for the game.
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Old 01-01-2010, 09:36 PM   #213
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He dislocated his elbow and is done for the game.

Glad to hear the correction, the Fox crew said the preliminary result of the X-Ray was that it was broken.
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Old 01-01-2010, 09:53 PM   #214
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Cincinnati is looking pretty lifeless out there. Not exactly surprising considering even their intern coach is moving on. This being a team that would of could of been a second away from being in the title game.
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Old 01-01-2010, 10:06 PM   #215
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on pace for 158 yards and 4 touchdowns

79 yards and 2 tds at the half, 4.6 ypc. pretty much killin the sooner d so far.
132 yards and 4.2 ypc. Credit to Stanford for keeping the scoreline close in a game they were outgained by over 200 yards and beating more than 2-1 in 1st downs, but this game did nothing but reinforce the thinking that Stanford was overrated, Oklahoma was underrated, and Toby Gerhart is a nice bruising RB who had no business being talked about as the best player in the country.

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Old 01-01-2010, 10:12 PM   #216
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Well crap, there goes the shutout.
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Old 01-01-2010, 10:13 PM   #217
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Cincinnati is looking pretty lifeless out there. Not exactly surprising considering even their intern coach is moving on. This being a team that would of could of been a second away from being in the title game.


I'm not sure if Kelly had been here this game would be any different.
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Old 01-01-2010, 10:13 PM   #218
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This being a team that would of could of been a second away from being in the title game.
For what its worth, they weren't - TCU was. Polls went 2 Texas 3 TCU 4 Cincy and computers went 2 Cincy 3 Texas 4 TCU. Because Cincy was already ahead of Texas in the computers a Texas loss would have jumped TCU over Cincy in the BCS standings.

On the brightside for the Bearcats, that was an impressive FG.

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Old 01-01-2010, 10:31 PM   #219
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Credit to Stanford for keeping the scoreline close in a game they were outgained by over 200 yards and beating more than 2-1 in 1st downs, but this game did nothing but reinforce the thinking that Stanford was overrated, Oklahoma was underrated, and Toby Gerhart is a nice bruising RB who had no business being talked about as the best player in the country.
Luck is a much, much better QB than Pritchard. That was a huge blow for Stanford to not have Luck available.

And I think a guy getting 132 yards and 4.2 ypc when he's the only real offensive threat for that team with Luck out is pretty good. Gerhart had a great season - never had a down game, unlike the Heisman winner - and absolutely deserved all of his accolades.

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Old 01-01-2010, 10:32 PM   #220
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Luck is a much, much better QB than Pritchard. That was a huge blow for Stanford to not have Luck available.

And I think a guy getting 132 yards and 4.2 ypc when he's the only read offensive threat for that team with Luck out is pretty good. Gerhart had a great season - never had a down game, unlike the Heisman winner - and absolutely deserved all of his accolades.

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Old 01-01-2010, 10:33 PM   #221
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I'm not sure if Kelly had been here this game would be any different.
Florida certainly has superior athletes, but don't discount the emotional side of the game. Seems pretty clear that the heart got ripped out of Cincinnati with Kelly leaving. Not saying Cincinnati would win the game, but I doubt they'd be getting clown-stomped like this...
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Old 01-01-2010, 10:34 PM   #222
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I'm not sure if Kelly had been here this game would be any different.

You generally don't average nearly 40 a game and then go into a game and get 3 in a half. Yes, Florida's D is one of the best in the country, but 'Bama humbled it, so it's not like it can't be scored upon. Even the announcers talked about how much of an effect this is having on Cincinnati with their coach leaving.

I turned off the game and figure I'll do other stuff now. Nothing left to talk about, but the lovefest for Tebow and Meyer. Heck, they already talked about how people hate how much the media talks about Tebow.

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Old 01-01-2010, 10:34 PM   #223
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Yep. But I'll be dead before I root for Oregon...
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Old 01-01-2010, 10:35 PM   #224
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I'm not sure if Kelly had been here this game would be any different.

I appreciate your candor.

I think the only chance Cincinnati had, with or without Kelly, ended with the Meyer-is-leaving/Is-Meyer-leaving deal.
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Old 01-01-2010, 10:49 PM   #225
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Sounds like Urban Meyer is going to run up the score.
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Old 01-01-2010, 10:53 PM   #226
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I know they just mentioned possibly giving Collaros a bit of playing time. I wonder if it couldn't do something to help the team some. At least his skill set would give the team some different options compared to Pike.
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Old 01-01-2010, 11:34 PM   #227
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Sounds like Urban Meyer is going to run up the score.
I don't know what option you have in a bowl game. I mean you aren't going to rest players for the next weeks game. I'd pull the kids with a pro future but would let the other Seniors get their playing time and enjoy the bowl.
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Old 01-02-2010, 12:37 AM   #228
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Old 01-02-2010, 12:43 AM   #229
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You may not realize it but you complain about the refs in every single LSU and Saints game you post about. Lots of people do it, its not a big deal or anything, but its absolutely there :P

I make a lot of ref posts in most games I talk about. I was talking about the refs in the Vikings game last week here. Officiating, positive or negative, can be interesting to talk about with other fans from other places because its judgement based, field performances are usually pretty obvious. I actually don't have much complaints about the overall referring in games LSU or the Saints play. Today was a bad call, but it didn't obviously decide the overall game outcome, up until that call the officiating today was actually pretty good. The last (and perhaps only?) game I felt as a fan that bad calls decided my team winning or losing was LSU Auburn in 2006.
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Luck is a much, much better QB than Pritchard. That was a huge blow for Stanford to not have Luck available.

And I think a guy getting 132 yards and 4.2 ypc when he's the only real offensive threat for that team with Luck out is pretty good. Gerhart had a great season - never had a down game, unlike the Heisman winner - and absolutely deserved all of his accolades.
Agreed on the first part. As to not having down games, I'd said less than 100 yards in losses to Oregon St and Wake Forest would qualify, but YMMV.
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Old 01-02-2010, 03:51 AM   #231
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Where are the "Big Ten can't win big games" crowd?
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Old 01-02-2010, 04:12 AM   #232
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Agreed on the first part. As to not having down games, I'd said less than 100 yards in losses to Oregon St and Wake Forest would qualify, but YMMV.
Yeah, my mileage does vary, because you're taking a very slanted view of those games:

vs. Wake Forest:
17-82, 4.8 avg

Hardly Gerhart's fault Harbaugh decided to emphasize the passing game in that one, with 34 passes attempted vs. 26 runs. Gerhart did well when called on.

vs. Oregon State:
20-96, 2 TD, 4.8 avg

Not Gerhart's fault Stanford's defense sucked ass in this game and forced Stanford to throw more than they wanted. Pretty good output by Gerhart even considering.

Compare that with Ingram's game vs. Auburn, a game Alabama struggled to win, where Ingram came up small with 16-30, 1.9 avg.
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Old 01-02-2010, 06:45 AM   #233
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Yeah, my mileage does vary, because you're taking a very slanted view of those games:

vs. Wake Forest:
17-82, 4.8 avg

Hardly Gerhart's fault Harbaugh decided to emphasize the passing game in that one, with 34 passes attempted vs. 26 runs. Gerhart did well when called on.

vs. Oregon State:
20-96, 2 TD, 4.8 avg

Not Gerhart's fault Stanford's defense sucked ass in this game and forced Stanford to throw more than they wanted. Pretty good output by Gerhart even considering.

Compare that with Ingram's game vs. Auburn, a game Alabama struggled to win, where Ingram came up small with 16-30, 1.9 avg.

Good lookin' out, my PAC-10 brother to the north. I knew there was a reason I always had a soft spot for the Dawgs.
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Old 01-02-2010, 09:29 AM   #234
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Florida certainly has superior athletes, but don't discount the emotional side of the game. Seems pretty clear that the heart got ripped out of Cincinnati with Kelly leaving. Not saying Cincinnati would win the game, but I doubt they'd be getting clown-stomped like this...

The interim head coach also has a new job, although he coached last night. I doubt they could have beaten Florida with a full staff, but losing two head coaches in a couple of weeks has to cripple the team.
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Old 01-02-2010, 10:12 AM   #236
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Old 01-02-2010, 10:17 AM   #237
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BCS dodged a bullet last night.

Whether or not Cincy could have played them close at any time this year is hard to know but this was set up for a route as soon as Kelly left. Adding to that being Tebows last game and the Urban Meyer story I dont think this result was too shocking.
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I usually bamouth officials because I think the vast majority of them are horrible but I must say that the officials at the end of the Auburn-Northwestern game had four extremely tough calls to make and made each and every one of them correctly. Not sure how it was officiated throughout as I only really turned it on in the 4th quarter.

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Well, the credit really goes to the replay officials though, the original calls on the field were reversed on 2 of those tough calls.

Agreed- they did an excellent job and that was a fun end of the game to watch. Wished Northwestern had won, tho- it would have made for a better story with the kicker out and all.

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Well, Kelly did call the plays for Cincy all season, so I'm sure it would have been much different if he hadn't left.
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Old 01-02-2010, 01:18 PM   #241
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I usually bamouth officials because I think the vast majority of them are horrible but I must say that the officials at the end of the Auburn-Northwestern game had four extremely tough calls to make and made each and every one of them correctly. Not sure how it was officiated throughout as I only really turned it on in the 4th quarter.

I usually let comments like this go because for the most part fans are ignorant of the rules, mechanics, and what really is a foul. Don't fool yourself to think announcers know any more or less. Fans also think that officials have great views like we all do on tv and have tons of time to process the info because they never get bitched at for throwing a late flag.

I'm not saying all officials are perfect and never make the wrong cause but to call the vast majority of them horrible is just stupid.
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I usually let comments like this go because for the most part fans are ignorant of the rules, mechanics, and what really is a foul. Don't fool yourself to think announcers know any more or less. Fans also think that officials have great views like we all do on tv and have tons of time to process the info because they never get bitched at for throwing a late flag.

I'm not saying all officials are perfect and never make the wrong cause but to call the vast majority of them horrible is just stupid.

In the past three to five years, I have seen more calls than ever totally blown. I'm not talking about calls that might have been judgement calls and were bang-bang. I'm talking calls that were just 100% wrong and preventable and there's no excuse for it.

I was a soccer official for many years and you want to know the thing that makes a good official? Being willing to put yourself in the best position to make the call and that's my biggest problem with sports officials anymore. They don't move to put themselves in the best position to see the call. Case in point...the play at 3b during the playoffs I believe it was. Unacceptable and it was all because the 3b umpire didn't move to put himself in a position to see what was happening. Now, on the plus side of this...if you watched the Rose Bowl last night on two plays OSU had right down the sideline (I believe Saine both times) you can see the linesman putting himself in a perfect position to see the player's feet along the sideline and he nailed it both times.

Now, in some instances, there is another problem...out of shape officials. Officials who aren't fast enough, or young enough, to keep up with the action. As the athletes get bigger, stronger, and faster, the officials have not. In fact in most cases, they get older and slower. Again...a major problem.

Officiating in every sport I watch has been worse the last 3-5 years. Period. Replay certainly makes it easier to second guess officials but again, I'm not talking about calls that are bang-bang, or calls that are just super close. I'm talking about missed calls. Now whether that's because of the issues I mentioned, the pay not being high enough to get the best, unions preventing the removal of bad officials, or games being fixed, who knows.
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Old 01-02-2010, 01:59 PM   #243
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Good lookin' out, my PAC-10 brother to the north. I knew there was a reason I always had a soft spot for the Dawgs.
Yeah, I've forgiven Stanford for spawning Ty Willingham on the rest of us

Seriously, I have tremendous respect for Stanford - great University, beautiful campus, big-time success in most sports. And seeing what Harbaugh is accomplishing there in football - it's awfully impressive.
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Old 01-02-2010, 07:04 PM   #246
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Damn it, I'm so pissed off, I'm typoing.

Mallett can't get in sync with his receivers, the o-line is a damn sieve and our run game is going nowhere.
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10-10 tie thanks to two Hogs picks, including a terrific 58 yard return for the tying TD!

Now if the offense can just get untracked...
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Old 01-02-2010, 07:56 PM   #248
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Now a 17-17 tie. Our run defense is turning nonexistant, but Mallett's warming up on offense.
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Partially blocked punt puts us close to midfield... so let's convert and take the lead, Hogs!
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Old 01-02-2010, 08:43 PM   #250
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1:20 left, ECU's in FG range with all their timeouts. 3rd and 8.

Tejada blew a field goal and Breeding had a shitty punt, neither of which is shocking, because they both have sucked all damn season long.

Still a 17-17 tie, though. 4th and 2.
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