Werewolf Small Game - A Werewolf Dance Party (Game Over)

[DaddyTorgo]

aaah. thanks mike. i forgot to look back to page 1 and see if either of them had a role.

waiting to see if anyone has anything to share about last night...

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by Richard Weed

Somehow, I don't think they were in the dark as much as we were. The way they were communicating, I think they knew.

could be. and maybe they were just trying to pass it off as something else. i guess we have to hope for a BG block too, so that after we lynch tonight ntn doesn't just replace sal...

to that end, i urge the BG to keep yourself secret...keep yourself safe. (i think that's the best way to play it, versus having them reveal and then that making them more of a target or subject to craziness, hmm?)

[st.cronin]

vote Saldana

[st.cronin]

still waiting to hear from path...

[brxnivy]

this game has me all confused, I'm going to vote now but am going to follow closely today to see if I need to change my vote

VOTE SALDANA

[path12]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

still waiting to hear from path...

I'm a wolf. I do have a night action. I did not learn anything from it last night. How's that?

[st.cronin]

Then I guess I'm waiting to hear from saldana.

[path12]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

Then I guess I'm waiting to hear from saldana.

I don't want to get into a lot of detail about night actions yet, suffice it to say that the exchange you quoted was (I believe) Saldana and I acknowledging that both of us were awake and saw each other that night. I have no idea as to his alliegance or anything like that.

[path12]

Dola, I do not believe that he was awake last night though.

[st.cronin]

so you think he was lying?

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by path12

I don't want to get into a lot of detail about night actions yet, suffice it to say that the exchange you quoted was (I believe) Saldana and I acknowledging that both of us were awake and saw each other that night. I have no idea as to his alliegance or anything like that.

plz dont

really waiting to hear from sal.

heh...this is a hell of a game for the new guys to cut their teeth on. all twisted-around

[path12]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

so you think he was lying?

I have no reason to think so.

[michael1123]

Originally Posted by Richard Weed

Somehow, I don't think they were in the dark as much as we were. The way they were communicating, I think they knew.

Don't think so, because vouching for each other ended up making it clear to us that they were villagers. If they knew everyone (or almost everyone) else were wolves, there's no way they'd want to stand out like that.

VOTE SALDANA

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by michael1123

Don't think so, because vouching for each other ended up making it clear to us that they were villagers. If they knew everyone (or almost everyone) else were wolves, there's no way they'd want to stand out like that.

VOTE SALDANA

I'm pretty sure he was talking about saldana and ntn. Which means, since he has said he's a wolf, that he thinks saldana and ntn are villagers. So I don't get your vote.

By the way, was hoopsguy able to put together a summary of his thoughts so far? Anything in there you can share? Because his day 1 moves puzzled me a bit, too.

[ntndeacon]

Vote path

[saldana]

vote path12

[saldana]

vote nightfall

[path12]

Wow, I was holding off to give you guys the benefit of the doubt. My bad.

VOTE SALDANA

[DaddyTorgo]

fortunately those 2 votes aren't going to mean anything...although...someone wanna look? maybe voting together is how they "convert" or something?

[Richard Weed]

Interesting voting strategy sal. I guess you're giving up. That's not like you. Maybe you're the brutal villager?

[saldana]

Originally Posted by Richard Weed

Interesting voting strategy sal. I guess you're giving up. That's not like you. Maybe you're the brutal villager?

i choose not to insult your collective intelligences with a poorly veiled fake reveal.....that, and no matter how hard i tried, i couldnt come up with a BS explanation for my day 1 actions that was any good

[michael1123]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

I'm pretty sure he was talking about saldana and ntn. Which means, since he has said he's a wolf, that he thinks saldana and ntn are villagers. So I don't get your vote.

Ok, now you have me confused.

On day 1 Saldana and NTN vouched for each other not being wolves, thinking this would help them survive longer. Turns out most of us are wolves. I'm also a wolf, so of course I'm voting for one of them. How is my vote confusing?

If what I was saying in that post confused you, I was just saying that I don't think they knew they were in the minority on day 1 or they wouldn't have said what they did. They ended up unknowingly digging their graves.

By the way, was hoopsguy able to put together a summary of his thoughts so far? Anything in there you can share? Because his day 1 moves puzzled me a bit, too.

No, I just got the PM he got to start off, which was probably the same as yours.

[st.cronin]

Anybody have any idea why we haven't seen the "killer" yet?

vote nightfall

[Chief Rum]

VOTE SALDANA

Given they voted so closely with one another, I have to believe the villagers have PM abilities, as wolves would normally have. I greatly doubt they coordinate that vote without communicating (as they certainly have not been communicating here in thsi thread, at least not since Day 1).

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

Anybody have any idea why we haven't seen the "killer" yet?

vote nightfall

Either there isn't one, or the killer has limitations, methinks. He obviously must not have a nightly kill option. Perhaps he can kill only in certain circumstances (when villagers/wolves down to a certain number, for instance) or maybe he can only kill once, and is saving it.

[DaddyTorgo]

imma gonna lead us to victory...i'm gonna lead us to victory

*party dance*

[DaddyTorgo]

sorry sal...tough break man. Who would have thought alan would twist it all around so much hmm?

[Alan T]

After discussion begins this morning, it does not take long before accusation after accusation start to fly at Saldana. He begins to protest, but then simply becomes resigned to his fate. He sits down and slumps over only to see one of you after another after another brutally attack him and begin to bite into him.

It does not take long before he ends up dead. One of you take a look through his belongings and find that he is yet another foreigner that has come to Europe. You notice that his neck however has the same markings as Imthecrew did... Was he one of you?

Saldana has been killed and appears to be a wolf.

Night 3 deadline is 9:00am EDT.

[michael1123]

.....?

[DaddyTorgo]

what...what the crap? sal...you could have said something ya know. Don't know if we would have listened, but you could have said something. Like maybe why you and ntn voted 1-2 for path...is it cuz you knew something we didn't? Should we be looking at path instead of ntn?

don't know why you gave up and didn't tell us anything. That's aggrivating.

[Richard Weed]

That is really strange. Then again, maybe when lynched he would appear to be a wolf, but was really a villager? That's the only explanation I can come up with and it's pretty weak.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by Richard Weed

That is really strange. Then again, maybe when lynched he would appear to be a wolf, but was really a villager? That's the only explanation I can come up with and it's pretty weak.

could be. Raises suspiscion on path a little in my eyes. I guess (presuming the #'s work out, i'm too lazy to figure them out) we should go after ntn next, and then path the day after (assuming it wouldn't be game over if we were wrong on ntn I mean)

[path12]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

could be. Raises suspiscion on path a little in my eyes. I guess (presuming the #'s work out, i'm too lazy to figure them out) we should go after ntn next, and then path the day after (assuming it wouldn't be game over if we were wrong on ntn I mean)

Seriously, how does this raise suspicion on me? I'm genuinely curious.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by path12

Seriously, how does this raise suspicion on me? I'm genuinely curious.

the fact that both of them voted you, and then sal (apparently it seems) turned up good. it's more than there really is on anyone else...i'm not saying it's a lot, but maybe they are both good and have some sort of communication ability or something like that, or you+ntn set sal up. Not saying either of those are LIKELY in my mind right now, but they're more possible than anything else revealed by anyone else.

My vote still goes on NTN tomorrow though. Don't worry.

[path12]

If you think he's good, why then would you vote ntn? Wouldn't the fact he vouched for ntn suggest he is good also? You're arguing both sides of the fence -- (I don't know if that's an actual saying or not now that I think about it).

Anyway, it's one or the other. Sal appears good. That "appears" could mean many things in this game. I'm not quite sure I believe it yet. If he was the person I saw night 1 then I'm almost positive he's bad, especially since Lathum was apparently the seer.

[Chief Rum]

Well, I'm thrown. I don't know the best plan. Saldana's wolfishness puts the value of voting for ntndeacon way, way down. Now would be a good time for ntn to come out with what his connection with saldana was, and tell us why we shouldn't lynch him anyway.

I would do some vote analysis, but I'm short on time and out until late tomorrow night. Plus, not sure what value it would be with us figuring out halfway through that this game is WW in reverse. It leads to trouble drawing conclusions about both early and late votes, and what people knew or guessed when.

I will be out all day Friday, though, so I will have to vote now. I would love to hear more theories on how we should approach things, but I won't be around to hear them.

VOTE NTNDEACON

[DaddyTorgo]

path...what did you observe on night 1 making you think sal was bad??

and note, i'm not saying you are evil, just saying it gives us something to go on with you, where there's not a ton of info out there.

[michael1123]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

sal...you could have said something ya know.

I just remembered something he DID say.

Originally Posted by saldana

i choose not to insult your collective intelligences with a poorly veiled fake reveal.....that, and no matter how hard i tried, i couldnt come up with a BS explanation for my day 1 actions that was any good

I don't know what is up with Alan's message, but it seems like sal he thought he was a villiager.

I agree that we still go with NTN.

[Alan T]

Another evening passes and once again, like every other day you wake up with everyone joining you. Thus far, all you can tell is that you have been very successful in killing off your own. It is however another day, and what you choose to do with it is up to you!

Day 4 deadline is 9:00pm EDT

[Richard Weed]

VOTE NTNDEACON

You knew this was coming, Pete...

[st.cronin]

VOTE NTNDEACON

This has been a very strange game.

[DaddyTorgo]

VOTE NTNDEACON

although i'm confused as to WTF is going on

[st.cronin]

vote nightfall

[michael1123]

Almost tempted to go with a no vote as we may all be werewolves, but

VOTE NTNDEACON

What does vote nightfall mean?

[st.cronin]

Nightfall means I'm not going to change my vote. If everybody votes nightfall, the gm can run the day earlier (if he chooses).

[path12]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

path...what did you observe on night 1 making you think sal was bad??

and note, i'm not saying you are evil, just saying it gives us something to go on with you, where there's not a ton of info out there.

How many roles do you think we have? The three listed in the rules or do you think there may be multiple roles distributed? I'm going to say that I tend to lean towards just the three, and if so then Sal was bad and leave it at that.

So, I believe despite the appearance that Sal had evil intent against the wolves. He trusted ntn and came out that way early, likely assuming there was the normal distribution of villagers (I certainly didn't get any info in my role description that left me thinking I was one of many wolves).

VOTE NTNDEACON

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by path12

How many roles do you think we have? The three listed in the rules or do you think there may be multiple roles distributed? I'm going to say that I tend to lean towards just the three, and if so then Sal was bad and leave it at that.

So, I believe despite the appearance that Sal had evil intent against the wolves. He trusted ntn and came out that way early, likely assuming there was the normal distribution of villagers (I certainly didn't get any info in my role description that left me thinking I was one of many wolves).

VOTE NTNDEACON

i don't want to vote nightfall because i want to hear from ntn before his death...

[michael1123]

Well I'm going to be gone from now until past the deadline, so:

vote nightfall

And just to clear this up path, you did say you had a night event involving sal on the first night, right? Can you give us some more details on that?

[path12]

Originally Posted by michael1123

Well I'm going to be gone from now until past the deadline, so:

vote nightfall

And just to clear this up path, you did say you had a night event involving sal on the first night, right? Can you give us some more details on that?

I don't want to be too specific for obvious reasons. Let's just say that I knew somebody was awake on night 1, and based on our exchanges early yesterday I am satisfied that it was Saldana.

[ntndeacon]

Vote michael