2015 NBA Offseason Thread - Page 5

murrayyyyy · 06-25-2015, 08:25 PM

Hornets making the best move is trade rumor is true. When did Jordan get a GM?

Groundhog · 06-25-2015, 08:26 PM

If Winslow slips to Miami at #10, that's a Paul Pierce-esque steal.

bhlloy · 06-25-2015, 08:26 PM

Somebody is getting an absolute steal with Winslow

Logan · 06-25-2015, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by bhlloy

Somebody is getting an absolute steal with Winslow

Are we at the point where we have to question why he's falling? Medical?

murrayyyyy · 06-25-2015, 08:28 PM

Celtics picks 16 and 28 and Sullinger was what I read today for the 9 maybe.

Groundhog · 06-25-2015, 08:28 PM

I think it's just need - he should've gone to Orlando at #5 IMO, and I think Detroit was locked in on Stanley Johnson for awhile now.

miami_fan · 06-25-2015, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by bhlloy

DOLA - what is the point of watching this on TV when they are two picks behind?

Is it just Woj or is it someone else?

Groundhog · 06-25-2015, 08:29 PM

Chad Ford: With the eighth pick the Detroit Pistons select Stanley Johnson. With Justise Winslow on the board. First big mistake of the night.

Brian Swartz · 06-25-2015, 08:30 PM

Great, now I'm stuck in the position of agreeing with Chad Ford. There are few worse sentences in the sport of basketball.

miami_fan · 06-25-2015, 08:30 PM

Not that it matters that much to me, I am used to being behind on this nowadays. Getting old is a bitch

Dutch · 06-25-2015, 08:31 PM

So the Magic draft some dude from Croatia. How does the NBA even find these guys???

Groundhog · 06-25-2015, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian Swartz

Great, now I'm stuck in the position of agreeing with Chad Ford. There are few worse sentences in the sport of basketball.

Not so fast - Kings probably made the first big mistake!

Groundhog · 06-25-2015, 08:33 PM

If I were the Hornets I'd grab Winslow and roll out a small ball lineup with Batum at the 4.

Groundhog · 06-25-2015, 08:33 PM

And trade MKG to a team that thinks you can play a SF that can't shoot from outside the key.

Brian Swartz · 06-25-2015, 08:33 PM

Ehh, if they hadn't completely screwed up everything relating to Cousins for the last several months, I don't think it would be that bad of a pick. Cousins/Cauley-Stein in a high-low offense could be very nice.

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And trade MKG to a team that thinks you can play a SF that can't shoot from outside the key.

No. Please NO. We already tried that.

Groundhog · 06-25-2015, 08:34 PM

Cousins/WCS = really lousy spacing, especially if Rudy Gay is still your SF.

murrayyyyy · 06-25-2015, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Groundhog

If I were the Hornets I'd grab Winslow and roll out a small ball lineup with Batum at the 4.

What if they can get Marcus Smart and both C's 1st rounders? Then try to sign a 4 in free agency.

Groundhog · 06-25-2015, 08:35 PM

Annnnnnnd Charlotte is back to being Charlotte! I was getting worried after those logical Batum and Lamb trades.

murrayyyyy · 06-25-2015, 08:36 PM

or just draft the 4 like they did

Brian Swartz · 06-25-2015, 08:37 PM

Another reason to dislike the Heat. They win the draft.

nol · 06-25-2015, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Logan

Are we at the point where we have to question why he's falling? Medical?

Can't shoot and is kind of short to be a stretch 4.

Groundhog · 06-25-2015, 08:39 PM

Getting probably the 5th best prospect at #10 is incredible value (assuming they don't do something stupid here).

murrayyyyy · 06-25-2015, 08:39 PM

So does OKC get Lyles or Portis and slide Ibaka to the 5 or just refuse to have a 5.

Izulde · 06-25-2015, 08:39 PM

Stoked the Lakers took Russell over Okafor.

Groundhog · 06-25-2015, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by nol

Can't shoot and is kind of short to be a stretch 4.

41% from college 3pt line at nearly 3 attempts per game is pretty promising IMO.

miami_fan · 06-25-2015, 08:43 PM

That will work

murrayyyyy · 06-25-2015, 08:43 PM

Also where does Cameron Payne end up? 18 with Houston?

Groundhog · 06-25-2015, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by murrayyyyy

Also where does Cameron Payne end up? 18 with Houston?

I'm guessing he goes before Grant and Jones.

Groundhog · 06-25-2015, 08:46 PM

WHERE'S ALL THESE WONDEROUS TRADES WE WERE PROMISED?!

murrayyyyy · 06-25-2015, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Groundhog

I'm guessing he goes before Grant and Jones.

Will have to be a trade because everyone has a PG already in that area. Oh wait, maybe the Suns can draft a 9th PG.

Groundhog · 06-25-2015, 08:47 PM

Dekker would be the most Utah Jazzish pick ever here.

murrayyyyy · 06-25-2015, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Groundhog

WHERE'S ALL THESE WONDEROUS TRADES WE WERE PROMISED?!

I selfishly wish the Grizzlies would trade up for Portis but they seem set on Martin @ 25.

nol · 06-25-2015, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Groundhog

41% from college 3pt line at nearly 3 attempts per game is pretty promising IMO.

Doing that on not many attempts per game, against college 4s, while shooting a not great percentage from the free throw line, while having a reputation as a non-shooter going into college, while struggling to make NBA threes in workouts is less so.

Still should have gone a couple spots higher, but he's not a sure fire star. Those were the reasons he fell from the top five, but a lot of it is also the Kings dropping the ball on Mudiay. If they'd taken him the Nuggets would've gotten Winslow.

Groundhog · 06-25-2015, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by nol

Doing that on not many attempts per game, against college 4s, while shooting a not great percentage from the free throw line, while having a reputation as a non-shooter going into college, while struggling to make NBA threes in workouts is less so.

Still should have gone a couple spots higher, but he's not a sure fire star.

Paul Pierce as a Freshman - 30% 3pt on 3.4 per game, 61% FTs. I don't really think there's a strong similarity between the two, but at #10 it's great value.

Groundhog · 06-25-2015, 08:57 PM

Strange pick by Utah IMO, they just managed to clear out their glut of bigs by trading Kanter. I wonder if this means Favors is out.

murrayyyyy · 06-25-2015, 09:00 PM

Suns take a 9th guard, Suns take a 9th guard (okay, maybe not 9 but it seems like it)

Sweed · 06-25-2015, 09:03 PM

Pleased and surprised at the Lakers pick. I liked Okafor but every time I thought of another guy that makes 50% from the line I just cringed.

RainMaker · 06-25-2015, 09:05 PM

The Hornets show why they are a garbage franchise.

Groundhog · 06-25-2015, 09:06 PM

Booker is a pretty solid 3/D prospect. I think #13 is a pretty fair slot for him.

Raps trade Vasquez to Bucks for a future 1st (Clippers pick).

Groundhog · 06-25-2015, 09:12 PM

Payne goes to the Thunder.

murrayyyyy · 06-25-2015, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Groundhog

Payne goes to the Thunder.

Protection for knee surgery # 4 and 5 next season.

Groundhog · 06-25-2015, 09:13 PM

Waiters, Westbrook, and Payne in the backcourt should do wonders for KD's shot rate.

murrayyyyy · 06-25-2015, 09:16 PM

Dekker to Boston because it's a Boston type guy or staying home in Milwaukee at the next pick?

murrayyyyy · 06-25-2015, 09:18 PM

According to WOJO, The Wizards just traded for the pick of Oubre

Groundhog · 06-25-2015, 09:19 PM

Oubre is destined to bomb IMO...

murrayyyyy · 06-25-2015, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Groundhog

Oubre is destined to bomb IMO...

Athletic kid from Findley Prep here in Vegas. Isn't scared to go get a rebound.

murrayyyyy · 06-25-2015, 09:24 PM

WTF Boston?!?! Another PG? Trading Smart?

Groundhog · 06-25-2015, 09:24 PM

Boston go with Dozier... a bit surprising, both the position and the fact that they picked him over Grant.

murrayyyyy · 06-25-2015, 09:26 PM

Well another surprise coming. Bucks go PG.

Groundhog · 06-25-2015, 09:27 PM

Vaughn to Bucks - his stock got a nice little bump the last couple of days. Grant to Rockets seems perfect on paper at #18...

06-25-2015, 08:26 PM	#202
Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	If Winslow slips to Miami at #10, that's a Paul Pierce-esque steal. __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

06-25-2015, 08:28 PM	#206
Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	I think it's just need - he should've gone to Orlando at #5 IMO, and I think Detroit was locked in on Stanley Johnson for awhile now. __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

06-25-2015, 08:29 PM	#208
Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	Chad Ford: With the eighth pick the Detroit Pistons select Stanley Johnson. With Justise Winslow on the board. First big mistake of the night. __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

06-25-2015, 08:30 PM	#210
miami_fan Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Land O Lakes FL	Not that it matters that much to me, I am used to being behind on this nowadays. Getting old is a bitch __________________ "The blind soldier fought for me in this war. The least I can do now is fight for him. I have eyes. He hasn’t. I have a voice on the radio, he hasn’t. I was born a white man. And until a colored man is a full citizen, like me, I haven’t the leisure to enjoy the freedom that colored man risked his life to maintain for me. I don’t own what I have until he owns an equal share of it. Until somebody beats me and blinds me, I am in his debt."- Orson Welles August 11, 1946

06-25-2015, 08:33 PM	#213
Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	If I were the Hornets I'd grab Winslow and roll out a small ball lineup with Batum at the 4. __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

06-25-2015, 08:25 PM	#201
murrayyyyy College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Las Vegas	Hornets making the best move is trade rumor is true. When did Jordan get a GM?

06-25-2015, 08:26 PM	#203
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	Somebody is getting an absolute steal with Winslow

06-25-2015, 08:28 PM	#205
murrayyyyy College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Las Vegas	Celtics picks 16 and 28 and Sullinger was what I read today for the 9 maybe.

06-25-2015, 08:30 PM	#209
Brian Swartz Grizzled Veteran Join Date: May 2006	Great, now I'm stuck in the position of agreeing with Chad Ford. There are few worse sentences in the sport of basketball.

06-25-2015, 08:31 PM	#211
Dutch "Dutch" Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Tampa, FL	So the Magic draft some dude from Croatia. How does the NBA even find these guys???

06-25-2015, 08:33 PM	#214
Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	And trade MKG to a team that thinks you can play a SF that can't shoot from outside the key. __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

06-25-2015, 08:34 PM	#216
Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	Cousins/WCS = really lousy spacing, especially if Rudy Gay is still your SF. __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

06-25-2015, 08:35 PM	#218
Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	Annnnnnnd Charlotte is back to being Charlotte! I was getting worried after those logical Batum and Lamb trades. __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

06-25-2015, 08:36 PM	#219
murrayyyyy College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Las Vegas	or just draft the 4 like they did

06-25-2015, 08:37 PM	#220
Brian Swartz Grizzled Veteran Join Date: May 2006	Another reason to dislike the Heat. They win the draft.

06-25-2015, 08:39 PM	#222
Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	Getting probably the 5th best prospect at #10 is incredible value (assuming they don't do something stupid here). __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

06-25-2015, 08:39 PM	#223
murrayyyyy College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Las Vegas	So does OKC get Lyles or Portis and slide Ibaka to the 5 or just refuse to have a 5.

06-25-2015, 08:39 PM	#224
Izulde Head Coach Join Date: Sep 2004	Stoked the Lakers took Russell over Okafor. __________________ 2006 Golden Scribe Nominee 2006 Golden Scribe Winner Best Non-Sport Dynasty: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty) Rookie Writer of the Year Dynasty of the Year: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty)

06-25-2015, 08:43 PM	#226
miami_fan Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Land O Lakes FL	That will work __________________ "The blind soldier fought for me in this war. The least I can do now is fight for him. I have eyes. He hasn’t. I have a voice on the radio, he hasn’t. I was born a white man. And until a colored man is a full citizen, like me, I haven’t the leisure to enjoy the freedom that colored man risked his life to maintain for me. I don’t own what I have until he owns an equal share of it. Until somebody beats me and blinds me, I am in his debt."- Orson Welles August 11, 1946

06-25-2015, 08:43 PM	#227
murrayyyyy College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Las Vegas	Also where does Cameron Payne end up? 18 with Houston?

06-25-2015, 08:46 PM	#229
Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	WHERE'S ALL THESE WONDEROUS TRADES WE WERE PROMISED?! __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

06-25-2015, 08:47 PM	#231
Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	Dekker would be the most Utah Jazzish pick ever here. __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

06-25-2015, 08:57 PM	#235
Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	Strange pick by Utah IMO, they just managed to clear out their glut of bigs by trading Kanter. I wonder if this means Favors is out. __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

06-25-2015, 09:00 PM	#236
murrayyyyy College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Las Vegas	Suns take a 9th guard, Suns take a 9th guard (okay, maybe not 9 but it seems like it)

06-25-2015, 09:03 PM	#237
Sweed College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2003	Pleased and surprised at the Lakers pick. I liked Okafor but every time I thought of another guy that makes 50% from the line I just cringed.

06-25-2015, 09:05 PM	#238
RainMaker Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	The Hornets show why they are a garbage franchise.

06-25-2015, 09:06 PM	#239
Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	Booker is a pretty solid 3/D prospect. I think #13 is a pretty fair slot for him. Raps trade Vasquez to Bucks for a future 1st (Clippers pick). __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

06-25-2015, 09:12 PM	#240
Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	Payne goes to the Thunder. __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

06-25-2015, 09:13 PM	#242
Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	Waiters, Westbrook, and Payne in the backcourt should do wonders for KD's shot rate. __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

06-25-2015, 09:16 PM	#243
murrayyyyy College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Las Vegas	Dekker to Boston because it's a Boston type guy or staying home in Milwaukee at the next pick?

06-25-2015, 09:18 PM	#244
murrayyyyy College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Las Vegas	According to WOJO, The Wizards just traded for the pick of Oubre

06-25-2015, 09:19 PM	#245
Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	Oubre is destined to bomb IMO... __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

06-25-2015, 09:24 PM	#247
murrayyyyy College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Las Vegas	WTF Boston?!?! Another PG? Trading Smart?

06-25-2015, 09:24 PM	#248
Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	Boston go with Dozier... a bit surprising, both the position and the fact that they picked him over Grant. __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

06-25-2015, 09:26 PM	#249
murrayyyyy College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Las Vegas	Well another surprise coming. Bucks go PG.